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big_jaygee
12-10-2012, 06:45 PM
i see a lot of negative stuff here about Gurkha... now i know i have not put the "time" in as a cigar smoker but i know when i find something i like. now isnt that the point? find something you like and then expand from there?

i was given 5 Gurkha Holy Grail's and i must say i truly enjoyed them. i was doing some research on them and the only place i could find them was thompson's. even there they are a bit high $149 and i know they have their auction site sometimes i find a good deal. are there any other sites that carry them? thoughts from anybody who has smoked them?

pnoon
12-10-2012, 06:50 PM
I'd be lying if I told you anything other than most find them to be crap. But that doesn't mean a damn thing. If you like them, that's all that matters.

Robulous78
12-10-2012, 06:51 PM
Everyone gives Gurkha a hard time...

In actuality, I have had 2 Gurkha's I have liked so far... the Spec Ops and a Micro-Batch...

I believe the reason everyone has a reservation with Gurkha's is because they have like 1000 Blends they pump out and very few of them are home runs... Some are down right horrible, most are very mild (almost flavorless)...

As for finding them elsewhere, I wouldn't know where to tell you but a good start is always CI... Hope this helps...

SpruceBruce
12-10-2012, 07:37 PM
I thought they were pretty good too, but I made the mistake of buying them before I really discovered what I like. I find them a little too mild for my tastes now (most of the time - sometimes I get in the mood for a lighter one once in a while).

I still have a bunch if you want to trade for 'em. Toss me a pm if you want.

kelmac07
12-10-2012, 07:38 PM
Like what you smoke...smoke what you like.

Remo
12-10-2012, 07:38 PM
Smoke what you like :tu

big_jaygee
12-10-2012, 08:28 PM
thats what i was going do even if its the "un-cool" thing hahaha :lr

dont get me wrong i stil have the RyJ maddie/vintage maddi, PAN/PAM, xikar HC, a couple of TATS running around in there and a few other singles. but a couple times a week i like pulling out one of those mild Gurkha's.

thanks all

JohnRogers
12-10-2012, 10:30 PM
see a lot of negative stuff here about Gurkha...
Yeah, I have not conducted a scientific poll but they seem somewhat unpopular. Again unscientific it seems for every two I enjoy one disappoints like The Widow Maker the other night. I need to pay attention to which ones are worth my time.

Big Maduro
12-10-2012, 10:32 PM
The double maduro isn't bad. I really like the Cellar Reserve, but they are hard to find.

icehog3
12-11-2012, 12:47 AM
Like what you smoke...smoke what you like.

This.

I don't like them, but they sell like hotcakes, so a lot of people certainly do.

Blak Smyth
12-11-2012, 07:54 AM
Smoke what you like for sure applies here.
And I commend anybody who can admit they like something many here do not.
I tried several Gurkhas in my time but never enjoyed a single one.
Did I try all of them, not even close.
Not only did I not enjoy the cigars but their marketing propaganda rubs me wrong.

elderboy02
12-11-2012, 08:10 AM
This.

I don't like them, but they sell like hotcakes, so a lot of people certainly do.

Tom, quit lying. You know you love Gurkha's :tu

Brutus2600
12-11-2012, 08:42 AM
Everybody here has said smoke what you like, which is great advice. If Gurkha's are your thing, that's great, I'm glad you found a cigar you enjoy :)

Having said that, I know personally cigars that I thought were amazing when I first started smoking are ones I can barely stand now. I can't say if my tastes changes or developed, but either way I have a handful of partially smoked boxes that I don't like any more.

My point being if you enjoy Gurkha's, that's fantastic, just smoke through a couple of 5'ers before you commit to a box :)

hammondc
12-11-2012, 08:45 AM
Some of their very first lines were pretty solid. The first Black Beauty and Beast were damn good. That figurado was always solid too. Now, they are garbage. I am talking about 8-10years ago.

shilala
12-11-2012, 08:54 AM
You asked where to buy them, try cigarbid.com. Gurkhas are usually nearly free.
I think guys rip on Gurkha mostly because they have no pride in their product. A blend that isn't offensive at release will be downright disgusting a short while later. They're all show and no pony.
If you've grabbed some you're liking, don't be surprised if the next you get are unsmokable. If you find them at cigarbid for a buck or two a stick, it's no big loss, but don't EVER pay anything close to MSRP. The price will go to pennies on the dollar in no time if you just wait and be patient.
Hopefully you'll be able to find some more good ones, brother!!! :tu

icehog3
12-11-2012, 09:07 AM
Tom, quit lying. You know you love Gurkha's :tu

I love to watch you smoke 'em, Dan. ;)

big_jaygee
12-11-2012, 11:05 AM
Do I think Gurkha are the best out there? Of course not. Do i think they are better then PAN/PAM or RyJ or Tatuaje Not really. Yes I personally think their marketing is outrageous and cigar names are outside the box to put it mildly. Speaking of mild.... most of their cigars are mild even for my taste but I usually smoke a medium to full cigar and I don't mind the miles every once in a while.


Will any of the above mentioned stop me from trying their 125th or Grand Reserve? Not today. Thanks for yalls thoughts on the matter, I just wanted to see what was so bad about them that most people had such a severe dislike for them.

czerbe
12-11-2012, 11:45 AM
The double maduro isn't bad. I really like the Cellar Reserve, but they are hard to find.

I have some of the Cellar Reserve and they are pretty stocked at a local shop in my area, I just pass on them cause I think they are over priced good but not that good

ihocky2
01-08-2013, 07:45 AM
I've found I like the Black Dragon a lot and the Titan. But I refuse to pay close to MSRP, I only wait for good deals to buy. But for every Gurkha that I like I find 4 or 5 that I don't. Even the tasty ones have burn issues, but I can live with that if I like that taste. But I am finding a lot of other brands that I like as well, so while these will stay in my humidor, their numbers will probably decrease. I tend to get them from CI, but only when they are running a good special by email or Make an Offer. I have not ventured into Cigarbid yet.

Sadden
01-08-2013, 10:56 AM
Ive only had one or two sticks. They were both marketed as powerhouses and when i sat down to enjoy them they were very mild. smoked fine construction wise but flavor wise just hay and tobacco. Not a bad smoke. but not my thing.

FreakShow
01-08-2013, 11:07 AM
The great thing about liking a stick that most hate is they can usually be found on cbid for next to nothing. As far as the holy grail I've only seen that particular blend at Thompson. I'm definitely not a fan of Gurkha but like many have said smoke what you like. I was curious about the cellar reserve but not curious enough to try to track any down.

whodeeni
01-10-2013, 09:46 AM
I met a Gurkha Executive last month. They changed their
business strategy of private labeling blends from various
factories, purchasing in huge quantities, and started blending
their own stuff, and cut their manufacturers down to 4.

What you see coming out in 2012 is the new improved Gurkha.
Will Khaizad keep selling the CI bs? That remains to be seen.
They have one blend in particular that I would almost give one
of my nuts to smoke all the time, but unfortunately i didn't know
what i had, and didn't stock up thinking they would be on cbid all
the time.

Its pretty much with anything find something you like at a good price,
stock up on it and enjoy them. Regardless of what everyone else thinks.

big_jaygee
01-11-2013, 04:09 AM
yeah i figured as much.... smoke what you like and like what you smoke. :tu their are only a couple of gurkha's i like, holy grail, 125th anniv, hell even the grand reserve aint that bad but some of the others i can do with out. i like them when i want a cheap mild smoke.

as far as holy grail found out its a thompson exclusive and thats just bs hahaha oh well i guess i will just do without because i don think they are worth the $7.50 ($149.00 for 20 cigars) i dont care how they come packaged

RevSmoke
01-11-2013, 07:51 AM
Do I think Gurkha are the best out there? Of course not. Do i think they are better then PAN/PAM or RyJ or Tatuaje Not really. Yes I personally think their marketing is outrageous and cigar names are outside the box to put it mildly. Speaking of mild.... most of their cigars are mild even for my taste but I usually smoke a medium to full cigar and I don't mind the miles every once in a while.


Will any of the above mentioned stop me from trying their 125th or Grand Reserve? Not today. Thanks for yalls thoughts on the matter, I just wanted to see what was so bad about them that most people had such a severe dislike for them.

OK, I'll play.

I was gifted a Regent toro and a Centurion perfecto when they first came out. They were incredibly good. I immediately picked up a couple of 5ers of each. These too were also very good. About two years later I decided to pick up another 5er of each - these were unrecognizable as the same cigar. The flavors were entirely different from those that were found in the previous sticks.

One day I found a Centurion buried in a box deep in the cooler, one of the earlier versions. One a lark a buddy and I lit them up side by side and compared them. Other than the shape, the two cigars tasted like they were from different planets, you could in no way consider they were supposed to be the same cigar.

The original had some spice, sweetness, nuttiness, and leather, medium to full-bodied. The new version was mild and had little to know flavor, I seemed to taste corrugated box.

I couldn't compare the Regents, as I didn't have one of the old ones left, but form my memory of the first ones, side by side taste test would have yielded similar results as with the Centurions - the two generations completely different.

If I had smoked the second generation of either of these cigars first, I know I would never have purchased any more of them.

It these type results are experienced by those who smoke other Gurkha cigar lines, that might explain some of the hatred of them.

That is just one guys understanding and explanation.

Of course, those first few cigars in those lines were amazing, I should have stocked up on them.

Peace of The Lord be with you.

Gophernut
01-11-2013, 08:21 AM
The Rev is wise. I used to really enjoy the Gurkha Fuerte line. I bought a number of fivers of them. At one point they were my go to cigar. I backed off of smoking for a couple of years and when I got back into it. I picked up a couple of fivers of what I thought was the same blend. Not even close. The difference was unreal. The more recent blend was unlike anything I had ever smoked. Horrible.
That's why until I see proof to the contrary, I will not smoke any other of them.

INT
01-13-2013, 12:48 AM
The new Gurkha ghost is pretty damn good. If you're a fan on undercrowns you should like it. Very similar profile. Tons of smoke like the ligas too.

big_jaygee
01-13-2013, 08:36 AM
The new Gurkha ghost is pretty damn good. If you're a fan on undercrowns you should like it. Very similar profile. Tons of smoke like the ligas too.

i like some gurkhas and have heard a few folks say they are pretty good i think i might go pick a couple of them up :tu