PDA

View Full Version : Sports Cars, Muscle Cars and Customs!


Mister Moo
11-27-2012, 02:56 PM
After 40-years of drooling I finally gommed on to a (1897) 911 Carrera targa. I love my bikes but, if you gotta have a cage, this IS the one. The 3.2l normally aspirated Carrera has been my daily driver for the past year. Barely good for 165mph andby todays standards nearly sluggish with 0-60 in six, this almost-antique still runs respectably through the corners and, at cruise, posts 27mpg.

"Oak Tree" turn at Virginia International Raceway; Porsche Parade Lap before the American LeMans Series race.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZaZUbpbtjoM/ULUvrSM5MyI/AAAAAAAACsQ/Uk_OEF5FC74/s720/VIR%2520Lemans%2520Parade.png

I've never enjoyed a car more than this one. If you have the itch my advice is, "Don't wait 'til you're 60 to scratch it." :D

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-47gT868YE4M/T5Fo7mvP8YI/AAAAAAAAB_U/2J64DIPQg7w/s800/1987%2520Carrera.jpg

68TriShield
11-27-2012, 03:00 PM
Awesome ride Dan :)

Chainsaw13
11-27-2012, 03:07 PM
Color me green with envy.

Fordman4ever
11-27-2012, 03:27 PM
Wow, sweet ride. All I can find around here is the 944 or 911s with no motors.

T.G
11-27-2012, 03:31 PM
Awesome ride you have there Dan.

PS: That car is in great shape for being a 115-year old car. ;)

E.J.
11-27-2012, 03:43 PM
Great looking car.....

bigswol2
11-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Looks like u had a ball on the track.

icehog3
11-27-2012, 04:57 PM
Congrats, Dan! :D

Awesome ride you have there Dan.

PS: That car is in great shape for being a 115-year old car. ;)

Adam, be serious, it was obviously a typo. That is a 1942 Porsche. ;)

Steelerfanatic
11-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Wow, nice ride you have there!! As crazy as it sounds my dream vehicle is an old 60's pickup truck........one of these days.

Mister Moo
11-28-2012, 06:04 AM
...That is a 1942 Porsche. ;)
Yo! Mod! Help me out with an edit, wouldja?

:cf2

Mister Moo
11-28-2012, 06:10 AM
Wow, sweet ride. All I can find around here is the 944 or 911s with no motors.

OK - I had to drive to Georgia to get mine but, still, lots are listed here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/index.htm

RWhisenand
01-13-2013, 11:12 AM
Nice ride, those were some of the nicest looking short hoods ever.

Real1929
01-13-2013, 11:27 AM
Congrats. Looks like a sweet ride. After many years of thinking I'd never get mine I finally was able to get a 2007 corvette. Just a great feeling to get behind the wheel of a great car. Find some open road and let it loose. Enjoy

mosesbotbol
01-13-2013, 11:47 AM
Great looking pictures of your Carrera. I love the script along the rocker panel.

MACS
02-04-2013, 01:18 AM
Meh. I prefer my baby. 328 hp, Monaco red seats, and Japanese reliability. When that thing goes tits up (and it will, it's German) bust open the wallet.

Of course, my opinion is MY opinion, and worth just about :2.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g397/Shawn_Northup/car%20stuff/005.jpg

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g397/Shawn_Northup/car%20stuff/003.jpg

New (much lighter) wheels.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g397/Shawn_Northup/007Large.jpg

Mister Moo
02-04-2013, 10:05 AM
Meh.... When that thing goes tits up (and it will, it's German) bust open the wallet.
Lets leave the tits behind and go right to nuts and bolts. Supercar engines don't come cheap - nifty alloys, insane tolerances, Fuchs wheels and titanium lugnuts all come at a price. And, like anything else over a 40-year run, there are 911's and then there are 911's; some models had problems built in, most not. Within the daily-driving community mechanically informed owners see engines go 300K or more between top end jobs. Double galvanized air-cooled Carreras with Getrag tranny (1984-1989 air/oil cooled 3.2l) are justifiably legendary for solid coachwork, tough engines, bulletproof clutches and magnificent transmissions.

The typical ways to break these older motors are: let them sit undriven in the mistaken belief they're sacred; failure to drive a warmed engine regularly to redline; repeated failure to achieve required operating temperatures before exceeding 3500rpm; and failure to use oil with high levels of zinc and phosphorus additives. The last three items, often ignored by uninformed owners, are killers on valves and valve guides. 14-quarts of 20W-50 in these so-called "air" cooled engines demands at least 15 minutes of low rev driving to protect the tolerances that squeeze big horsepower out of small, lightweight displacement - this is a long wait for a nincompoop. While the reliability of the mills is solid with owners who read the book, a lot of morons will drive the engines to a costly and premature failure. I don't see Porsche failures because they're German but, rather, because owners fail to know their vehicle.

When rebuild time comes around there is good new$ and bad new$ for old Porsche owners.

The bad news - sexy alloy parts are not especially cheap. And if you are going to hire Werner over at Das Porsche Haus (or worse yet a dealer) to do the 15,000 mile tuneup it turns into a $1000 WTF deal. :sl

The good news - those sexy alloy parts don't often fail. Older air-cooled cars were made simply for regular spirited driving on no-limit highways, unimproved roads and track. They allow for a car owner/hobbiest to drop and engine and rebuild without need of a lift. The old fuel-injected air-cooled flat sixes are easy to repair with little more than standard tools, a couple of jackstands and a floor jack.

If a prospective buyer reads the owners manual and enjoys automotive hobbycraft I'd say the scare value of engine work (or recurrent engine failure) is as legend as it is wrong. A once per 15,000 major tune is a six-hour job that costs a couple of hundred bucks if you do it yourself.

The older Porsche is reliable and, wisely owned, not especially expensive. And unlike the new rice burners that easily outrun the older 911's, their value continues to increase.

Mister Moo
02-04-2013, 11:55 AM
Not to flog and dead horse but I just stumbled on this - excellent validation of the above post.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20121001/CARNEWS/121009989

mosesbotbol
02-04-2013, 12:52 PM
The older Porsche is reliable and, wisely owned, not especially expensive. And unlike the new rice burners that easily outrun the older 911's, their value continues to increase.

There are issues with 996's and early 997's with RMS and half shafts, but that's all I ever really read about as major issues on 911's.

What you said is pretty much true with all cars known to be a problem. Non-regularly driven cars and ones not driven to red line are not usually good long term runners. Sports cars are meant to be driven.

It was never Ferrari or Porsche idea to make garage queens.

schnell987
02-04-2013, 05:39 PM
Beautiful car! Congratulations! :tu

I had an '86 Targa for many years...daily driver and Driver's Ed car. You can have a blast racing the car on the track over the weekend and then drive to work on Monday. Easily one of the best cars I've ever owned. A true classic.

Loved the rumble of that air cooled exhaust note...amazing handling...and immediate heat (no need to wait for antifreeze to warm up). Enjoy your classic, my friend!

omowasu
02-04-2013, 11:15 PM
Moo, your Porsche is beautiful. Ive always wanted an older 911, and I know a few people who are early 911 enthusiasts. There is nothing like driving an older air-cooled Porsche.

iaMkcK
02-05-2013, 02:41 AM
Lets leave the tits behind and go right to nuts and bolts. Supercar engines don't come cheap - nifty alloys, insane tolerances, Fuchs wheels and titanium lugnuts all come at a price. And, like anything else over a 40-year run, there are 911's and then there are 911's; some models had problems built in, most not. Within the daily-driving community mechanically informed owners see engines go 300K or more between top end jobs. Double galvanized air-cooled Carreras with Getrag tranny (1984-1989 air/oil cooled 3.2l) are justifiably legendary for solid coachwork, tough engines, bulletproof clutches and magnificent transmissions.

The typical ways to break these older motors are: let them sit undriven in the mistaken belief they're sacred; failure to drive a warmed engine regularly to redline; repeated failure to achieve required operating temperatures before exceeding 3500rpm; and failure to use oil with high levels of zinc and phosphorus additives. The last three items, often ignored by uninformed owners, are killers on valves and valve guides. 14-quarts of 20W-50 in these so-called "air" cooled engines demands at least 15 minutes of low rev driving to protect the tolerances that squeeze big horsepower out of small, lightweight displacement - this is a long wait for a nincompoop. While the reliability of the mills is solid with owners who read the book, a lot of morons will drive the engines to a costly and premature failure. I don't see Porsche failures because they're German but, rather, because owners fail to know their vehicle.

When rebuild time comes around there is good new$ and bad new$ for old Porsche owners.

The bad news - sexy alloy parts are not especially cheap. And if you are going to hire Werner over at Das Porsche Haus (or worse yet a dealer) to do the 15,000 mile tuneup it turns into a $1000 WTF deal. :sl

The good news - those sexy alloy parts don't often fail. Older air-cooled cars were made simply for regular spirited driving on no-limit highways, unimproved roads and track. They allow for a car owner/hobbiest to drop and engine and rebuild without need of a lift. The old fuel-injected air-cooled flat sixes are easy to repair with little more than standard tools, a couple of jackstands and a floor jack.

If a prospective buyer reads the owners manual and enjoys automotive hobbycraft I'd say the scare value of engine work (or recurrent engine failure) is as legend as it is wrong. A once per 15,000 major tune is a six-hour job that costs a couple of hundred bucks if you do it yourself.

The older Porsche is reliable and, wisely owned, not especially expensive. And unlike the new rice burners that easily outrun the older 911's, their value continues to increase.

Pipes and cars. I am impressed. FOG.

hazydat620
02-05-2013, 09:09 AM
don't know if this would be the place but, for you guys who like engine p*rn, here's the 76 Datsun 620 broke down in the rebuilding stage, were it still is. over thirty is classic right? and a weber carb makes it a muscle right, right?:sh
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8267618017_80a78c460d.jpg

Bondo 287
02-05-2013, 10:21 AM
....... over thirty is classic right?

Twenty years is classic. 25 years + is antique.

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/1360/dscn0558sq.jpg

milhouse
02-05-2013, 10:43 AM
Meh. I prefer my baby. 328 hp, Monaco red seats, and Japanese reliability. When that thing goes tits up (and it will, it's German) bust open the wallet.

Of course, my opinion is MY opinion, and worth just about :2.




... and there is alway the guy who comes along to rain on somebodys parade. :tu

Did you really just compare a glorified nissan to a porsche?:sl

Mister Moo
02-05-2013, 11:42 AM
don't know if this would be the place but, for you guys who like engine p*rn, here's the 76 Datsun 620 broke down in the rebuilding stage, were it still is. over thirty is classic right? and a weber carb makes it a muscle right, right?:sh
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8267618017_80a78c460d.jpg

This is the place! Keep updating your progress; we'd love to see your work turning scars into stars.

Mister Moo
02-05-2013, 12:25 PM
... and there is alway the guy who comes along to rain on somebodys parade. :tu

Did you really just compare a glorified nissan to a porsche?:slIn all fairness, the "glorified Nissan" with red seats and spindly wheels (along with any number of Subarus or Hyundais) will probably outrun my antique.

Old, slow and heavy as it is in stock condition (barely knocking off zero-60 in six and hardly able to get out of its own way enroute to 163mph) I still look back at least once each time I park it. In spite of what I do the resale value continues to rise. And in spite of what others think, a good example from the era is vastly overbuilt and very hard to break.

I don't know who fixes modern rice burners but my daughter and I can tune a 911, drop an engine, strip an exhaust or knock out a valve lash adjustment in a few hours. And she works cheaper than the dealership!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-znHxmvtgFVE/UF6FSz2mgeI/AAAAAAAACbg/fzIIxpxlspA/s640/P1020116.JPG

mmblz
02-05-2013, 12:42 PM
In all fairness, the "glorified Nissan" with red seats and spindly wheels (along with any number of Subarus or Hyundais) will probably outrun my antique.

"fast acceleration" still doesn't make it a sports car, muscle car, or custom :D


Love your Porsche! Maybe someday, many years down the road, for me...
In the meantime I love my 98 BMW M Roadster - at least during the summer ;)
No pics. It's black. Use your imagination / google.


I can handle some of the ricers for you and then we can have a cigar.

mosesbotbol
02-05-2013, 12:45 PM
Is that a sandblaster in the background?

poker
02-05-2013, 01:12 PM
"fast acceleration" still doesn't make it a sports car, muscle car, or custom :D


Love your Porsche! Maybe someday, many years down the road, for me...
In the meantime I love my 98 BMW M Roadster - at least during the summer ;)
No pics. It's black. Use your imagination / google.


I can handle some of the ricers for you and then we can have a cigar.

Im with you. My '05 M3 hasn't been driven in some time but were restoring back to original in preparation to ship it to Thailand.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp96/poker_player/1024x768.jpg

milhouse
02-05-2013, 01:18 PM
In all fairness, the "glorified Nissan" with red seats and spindly wheels (along with any number of Subarus or Hyundais) will probably outrun my antique.

[/IMG]


Comparing new technology to old technology is an apples to orange comparison.
So many cars have 300+ hp these days, that alone does not make it a sports car, let alone an iconic one at that.

20 years from now, the Porsche will still be a highly sought after collectible. That Infiniti (and 99% of all cars for that matter) will probably be driven by a high school kid who saved his paper route money and bought his first car.

milhouse
02-05-2013, 01:22 PM
Im with you. My '05 M3 hasn't been driven in some time but were restoring back to original in preparation to ship it to Thailand.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp96/poker_player/1024x768.jpg

sweet e46 bro

poker
02-05-2013, 01:32 PM
thank you. It was fun when it was all dolled up. 15" Brembos, full adjustable suspension, 4.10 diff, cams, software, Ti exhaust, etc.

Mister Moo
02-05-2013, 01:42 PM
Is that a sandblaster in the background?It was until the lexan screen got smashed. Now it's a big red box.

Mister Moo
02-05-2013, 01:45 PM
"fast acceleration" still doesn't make it a sports car, muscle car, or custom :DWord. Mrs. Moo's Jeep runs a 330hp hemi. Not sure what I'd call it but sports- or muscle car do not come to mind.

mosesbotbol
02-05-2013, 01:46 PM
Im with you. My '05 M3 hasn't been driven in some time but were restoring back to original in preparation to ship it to Thailand.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp96/poker_player/1024x768.jpg

Have you shipped cars there before? Is it already owned by a Thai as personal property in USA. I have done car exports to Switzerland a few times, so just curious. How is the homologation process go in Thailand? I thought they were RHD?

poker
02-05-2013, 01:54 PM
Have you shipped cars there before? Is it already owned by a Thai as personal property in USA. I have done car exports to Switzerland a few times, so just curious. How is the homologation process go in Thailand? I thought they were RHD?

Nope, I have never shipped a vehicle to Thailand before. Being that my wife is a Thai citizen I dont think it makes a difference on that import duty & taxation. I hear its high if the vehicle is under 10 years old. But, alas like many things, my wife tells me it largely depends on "who" you know. She has some connections there that I dont question. Like how in the hell she got her replacement birth certificate 3 days after she made the request (That includes transit time).

mosesbotbol
02-05-2013, 02:34 PM
Nope, I have never shipped a vehicle to Thailand before. Being that my wife is a Thai citizen I dont think it makes a difference on that import duty & taxation.

I know many who imported fancy cars to Indonesia as college students. They'd buy the car as soon as they get here and bring it back with them as personal property on their move back. Usually new Mercedes.

I hope it works out well for you. I know taxes in that region can be 100%, but it sounds like your wife knows the right people. Would love to hear how it all plays out.

kgoings
04-17-2013, 01:18 PM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/kirkgoings/image.jpeg

Here is my 68...that I no longer have :(

My next project will be a 67 GTO or a 73 Charger

Mister Moo
04-17-2013, 01:41 PM
Here is my 68...that I no longer have :(

My next project will be a 67 GTO or a 73 ChargerSweet! Do the Goat.

Mister Moo
04-17-2013, 01:47 PM
In to the paint shop in March:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qHmlRGjc39M/UUC-gaG4ElI/AAAAAAAADBk/sxhHA2pJ858/s800/IMG_20130312_151716_059.jpg

Over to wet sanding:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3iphYIc4FYA/UUoCn2Cpn8I/AAAAAAAADD8/vv89-gzBwz4/s800/masked%252001.jpg

...and across to the Outer Banks three weeks later:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eGYVBAgSwks/UVolvT7hP_I/AAAAAAAADGc/RP3vGzf5HoM/s640/IMG_20130401_202525.JPG

Previous owner(s) in Texas and Oklahoma buffed and burned, right down to primer in some places. Too bad the original paint wasn't salvageable. Oh well - it's a clearcoated piece of steel now. Huge improvement.

mosesbotbol
04-17-2013, 02:48 PM
Like Carrera rocker script. Very classic

Mister Moo
04-18-2013, 08:13 PM
Like Carrera rocker script. Very classic

I was doing my best to get it looking like a 1960's era slot car. :D

RWhisenand
04-18-2013, 08:43 PM
Nice ride, here are a couple pics of my 911:
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp298/941MXVET/IMG_1718-1.jpg (http://s421.photobucket.com/user/941MXVET/media/IMG_1718-1.jpg.html)


In the garage with our departed Boxster:

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp298/941MXVET/IMG_1714.jpg (http://s421.photobucket.com/user/941MXVET/media/IMG_1714.jpg.html)

My current track car, a NA 944

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp298/941MXVET/IMG_2073-1-1.jpg (http://s421.photobucket.com/user/941MXVET/media/IMG_2073-1-1.jpg.html)

What you stated earlier about properly driving your Porsche is right on, these were not meant to be babied, every car pictured have seen track time, the 944 of course sees the most.

Mister Moo
04-19-2013, 11:33 AM
Nice ride, here are a couple pics of my 911...
In the garage...Nice! Would you describe the C2 driving characteristics and experience?

RWhisenand
04-19-2013, 12:01 PM
The 964, 911 C2 is very planted in corners in comparison to the earlier 911's. there is still a good bit of 'lift off oversteer' compared to other cars, but not having the torsion bar suspension helps. Of course you already know that the flat 6 makes most of its usable power over 5000 rpm, as a result this car is not fast off the line, but very quick from 70 mph to 100 mph. IMHO, the 3.6 L was the best of the air cooled engines, but your 3.2 L ( I assume) is bulletproof too.

Next year this car will be getting a new suspension, I'm looking at either the Bilstiens with H&R springs, or a whole set of coil overs. Not that this car has a bad suspension, but it is over 20 years old.

In general I love driving this car, it's been tracked a number of times, but not since I picked up the 944. That is a Spec racer though, and a dedicated track car. I might be tempted to enter the 911 in an AX or two though!

Mister Moo
04-19-2013, 03:25 PM
Love the 964! Probably the best all-around 911. What model year? Yours came with ABS?

Yes, the 3.2l engine is pretty much unbreakable as long as it gets warmed up, lit up, tuned up and proper oil grade. Daily drivers show 300k miles between rebuilds.

RWhisenand
04-19-2013, 04:13 PM
Ours is a 1991. While I really like our 964, I certainly wouldn't mind a 993! Almost the same car as the 964, but with the laid down head lights. I do however like the classic look of the upright head lights too.

BTW, did you notice the license plate? That is completely coincidental.

s15driftking
04-19-2013, 04:17 PM
my track only car.... freshly finished

Wheels are 18x11.5 +4 our back (6 inch lips)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/59443_10101155939934134_1254447316_n.jpg

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/550680_10101155940103794_1435539413_n.jpg






started as....
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p206x206/544644_10100764631100174_983759027_n.jpg

Mister Moo
04-24-2013, 12:43 PM
4-Wide drag racing in Charlotte last Sunday. O.... M..... G..... turn your sound all the way up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf14jDEuhlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxUf_D4D4zA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHC3SvpOONo

mmblz
04-24-2013, 12:48 PM
almost time to pull the roadster out of the garage. no mud season to speak of this year.

hammondc
04-24-2013, 01:03 PM
4-wide drag racing in charlotte last sunday. O.... M..... G..... Turn your sound all the way up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf14jdeuhlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxuf_d4d4za

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhc3svpoono

sick!

hammondc
04-24-2013, 01:09 PM
Any AC Cobra owners here? Kit or original. That is my dream ride. Either a Factory Five or Superformance. Either are my 5-10years from now car.

mosesbotbol
04-24-2013, 02:07 PM
Any AC Cobra owners here? Kit or original. That is my dream ride. Either a Factory Five or Superformance. Either are my 5-10years from now car.

That is many a person's dream car. Never been in one, have you?

I know someone who dad has an original Shelby Cobra. He bought it in the early 70's as a wreck and had pieces of buried in his yard! He was affraid someone would steal the car before he could restore it. I saw him once washing off piece from the car and asked if that is from a Cobra. I thought he was going to skin me alive.

Mister Moo
04-26-2013, 09:20 AM
Any AC Cobra owners here? Kit or original. That is my dream ride. Either a Factory Five or Superformance. Either are my 5-10years from now car.

I saw one at Cars & Coffee in Cary, NC, two weeks ago - Waverly Place Shopping Center first Saturday of the month, 8:00am to 10:30am. Owner said it was an original 427 - I did not ask to record the serial number; he seemed honest. :D It was a gem from every angle. pm if you want all the pictures. I had a serious rumble factor.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aYFHzQeKL3Q/UXqaDHBISaI/AAAAAAAADP0/0K29dts2T7g/s640/P1020487.JPG

hammondc
04-28-2013, 11:42 AM
That is many a person's dream car. Never been in one, have you?


Old neighbor had a Factory Five. Badass car.

mmblz
12-27-2015, 07:42 PM
If you have the itch my advice is, "Don't wait 'til you're 60 to scratch it." :D

Have reached a point when I can say amen to that... Boring dealer photo. I've been too busy driving it to take any pictures.

Chainsaw13
12-27-2015, 07:48 PM
Have reached a point when I can say amen to that... Boring dealer photo. I've been too busy driving it to take any pictures.

Wow!

Here's my purchase from earlier this year.

mosesbotbol
12-28-2015, 06:19 AM
Not sure if I had ever posted my car, but here's my toy... Lotus Evora. It's a manual and mostly an every day driver for most of the year. This car has very precise handling traits and is really connected to both the road and driver. No cup holders here!

To Lotus fans, nothing handles like a Lotus. As much as I get new-car-idus as much as the next motorhead, I can't think of another sports car under 100K I'd rather have. Plus, this one is all sorted out now.

I am think today is going to be the end of the season. Plan on washing it later and connecting the CTEK.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh39/mosesbotbol/Sg_800_zps0727ff65.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh39/mosesbotbol/rear_zpsorwjpneq.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh39/mosesbotbol/IMG_0866_zpsf0d0fba0.jpg

mosesbotbol
12-28-2015, 06:50 AM
Wow!

Here's my purchase from earlier this year.

That is awesome. What are the details on this Z, very cool looking.

Chainsaw13
12-28-2015, 07:28 AM
That is awesome. What are the details on this Z, very cool looking.

It's a '76 280Z. Previous owner did a lot of work on it, and kept it in really good shape. There's no rust (fingers crossed it stays that way). Looks like it was undercoated at some point. All rubber body mounts replaced with urethane bushings. New springs/shocks put on to lower the car about 1-1.5". Paint is not original, but in pretty good shape. I plan to get a respray in a couple years. Engine is all stock and still runs strong for 40 years and 113k miles. It is an automatic trans, 3 speed. While I'd prefer a manual, the auto isn't all that bad. I have a 4 speed trans in the garage I may swap in at some point.

My first car was a 78 280. I had said at some point I'd get another one. So glad I did. It's a visceral feeling driving it.

mmblz
12-28-2015, 08:08 AM
Nice cars guys!

Looks like tomorrow will be the cutoff here as well - to stop pretending it's spring, and say goodbye to the car for a few months.

mosesbotbol
12-28-2015, 09:22 AM
Would be cool to make it a resto-rod style Z. Keep all the styling but put a miata engine trans in it. Would have slick 5 speed and good engine maintaining light weight.

Chainsaw13
12-28-2015, 09:55 AM
Would be cool to make it a resto-rod style Z. Keep all the styling but put a miata engine trans in it. Would have slick 5 speed and good engine maintaining light weight.

I've gone back/forth about putting a LS1 in it. Lots of guys have done it, mated to a Tremec 5 or 6 speed. Talk about bad a$$. Only affects the weight by around 40lbs towards the front, as the original straight 6 is quite heavy. I've also thought about having the motor gone over to freshen it up. Maybe a mild cam swap too. All depends on how adventurous I want to get, plus how deep my pocket book is at the time.

T.G
12-28-2015, 10:36 AM
I've gone back/forth about putting a LS1 in it. Lots of guys have done it, mated to a Tremec 5 or 6 speed. Talk about bad a$$. Only affects the weight by around 40lbs towards the front, as the original straight 6 is quite heavy. I've also thought about having the motor gone over to freshen it up. Maybe a mild cam swap too. All depends on how adventurous I want to get, plus how deep my pocket book is at the time.

Oooh, a Rotsun. :tu

Navydoc
01-03-2016, 08:20 AM
Parked this in the garage 3 weeks ago....put 500 miles on it already LOL

icehog3
01-03-2016, 12:33 PM
Nice ride, Paul! :tu

mosesbotbol
01-03-2016, 02:21 PM
Parked this in the garage 3 weeks ago....put 500 miles on it already LOL

Wow, that is yours? Tell us more! There's a Lamborghini dealer near my house I am seeing them more often than years past.

Very cool! :dr

Navydoc
01-05-2016, 04:39 PM
It's a 2016 Lambo Huracan - LP610-4 in Midas yellow. I decided I didn't want to be the really old guy driving one so I got it now. Incredible experience to drive. Really got hooked after driving an aventador in LV and then a 458 Speciale in Germany for two days. Found a guy here in VB who has a Gallardo Superleggra in the same yellow at a local cars and coffee event.

n3uka
01-05-2016, 07:15 PM
Very nice :tu

bonjing
01-14-2016, 05:36 PM
Hard to follow up a Lamborghini!

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_92855350-1991-49f4-b322-e50ed9cdbb25_zpsd8ohqik4.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/92855350-1991-49f4-b322-e50ed9cdbb25_zpsd8ohqik4.jpg.html)

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0014_zpslfysd6mv.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0014_zpslfysd6mv.jpg.html)

mmblz
01-14-2016, 06:20 PM
SRT? SRT Hellcat? I don't know how to tell...
Nice car!

bonjing
01-14-2016, 08:26 PM
Oh forgot the details. 2015 Charger Scat Pack. The lesser known car. Same engine as the SRT 392. No adjustable suspension and a few less options in the driving modes. Smaller brakes and tires too but I don't track the car and I drive like granny. But I think it was 7K less and cheaper to insure.

mosesbotbol
01-15-2016, 07:30 AM
It's a 2016 Lambo Huracan - LP610-4 in Midas yellow. I decided I didn't want to be the really old guy driving one so I got it now. Incredible experience to drive. Really got hooked after driving an aventador in LV and then a 458 Speciale in Germany for two days. Found a guy here in VB who has a Gallardo Superleggra in the same yellow at a local cars and coffee event.

Is this your first exotic car?

mmblz
01-15-2016, 08:58 AM
I drive like granny.

I looked for "granny driving school" but didn't come up with much :r
Maybe just having this car will reform you ;)

mosesbotbol
01-15-2016, 10:48 AM
Hard to follow up a Lamborghini!

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_92855350-1991-49f4-b322-e50ed9cdbb25_zpsd8ohqik4.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/92855350-1991-49f4-b322-e50ed9cdbb25_zpsd8ohqik4.jpg.html)

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0014_zpslfysd6mv.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0014_zpslfysd6mv.jpg.html)

Is that a Charger? Which version?

Porch Dweller
01-15-2016, 12:29 PM
Look three posts up, Moses. ;)

Navydoc
01-15-2016, 03:56 PM
Is this your first exotic car?

Well I traded in a 2014 Maserati Granturismo if that counts

billybarue
01-16-2016, 08:43 AM
Going to start a build on a '67 Impala SS convertible. Not me - paying for it, I don't know what the hell's going on under the hood. I just like the old stuff mostly mid-60's.

Debating on the engine? Rebuild the 327 or put in a period correct 427? That should add $5 + K to the value of the car. I'm not going to resto-mod it too much aside from brakes and suspension - I want it to look stock. I'm thinking save the 327 and put it on a stand and buy a modern Chevy crate motor. If I ever get rid of the car I'll let the old 327 go with it

68TriShield
01-16-2016, 08:51 AM
If the 327 is original to the car, that's the way to go to retain the value. If you want the 427, save the original engine.

mosesbotbol
01-16-2016, 09:35 AM
Well I traded in a 2014 Maserati Granturismo if that counts

How was that car? You did not have it long... Sure is a looker.

mmblz
01-16-2016, 10:18 AM
Couple of "real" pics. Snow makes a nice backdrop even if I don't actually take the car out in it...

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qSqK4kf/0/L/i-qSqK4kf-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-pwC87xt/0/L/i-pwC87xt-L.jpg

bonjing
01-16-2016, 10:40 AM
Very sexy 911! Love the wheels on it.

mosesbotbol
01-17-2016, 09:08 AM
Very sexy 911! Love the wheels on it.

No kidding. That car is hot. I exported a 996 Turbo S (coupe) to Switzerland like 6-7 years ago. That car was wicked fast; can only imagine what yours is like on the open road.

mmblz
01-18-2016, 09:40 AM
Thanks guys. It's "can't help laughing like a little kid" fast...

mosesbotbol
01-18-2016, 12:42 PM
Thanks guys. It's "can't help laughing like a little kid" fast...

Carbon Ceramic Brakes? Have you brought it Palmer Motorsports yet?

mmblz
01-18-2016, 01:13 PM
Just got it in November, but already starting to think about track and or autocross. Do you track the Lotus? I almost bought an Elise when they came to the us. Was on the waiting list but dropped off when I got my M roadster.

mosesbotbol
01-18-2016, 08:09 PM
Just got it in November, but already starting to think about track and or autocross. Do you track the Lotus? I almost bought an Elise when they came to the us. Was on the waiting list but dropped off when I got my M roadster.

I have not tracked the Lotus yet. I have wanted to but just haven't had the time. I know a few that track Evora's almost every weekend. They are robust cars for for going to on off track.

Is your car PDK or manual?

mmblz
01-18-2016, 09:49 PM
It's a PDK. No more manual in 2016 turbos. I know they dropped manual recently but not sure if it was this year. Traded in the M and miss it for about half a second, but can't complain as this is about twice as fast. Finding time will definitely be the issue for me as well as far as track goes...

mosesbotbol
01-19-2016, 04:42 AM
It's a PDK. No more manual in 2016 turbos. I know they dropped manual recently but not sure if it was this year. Traded in the M and miss it for about half a second, but can't complain as this is about twice as fast. Finding time will definitely be the issue for me as well as far as track goes...

My friend had a '14 Cayman S with PDK and traded it on '15 997 base with manual. The PDK is neat, but I am still wanting to row my own. I like how the Porsche you can go up or down on either side of the wheel and the two gear kick down. Along with the more mechanical feeling when the PDK engages vs. a conventional slush box auto...

I just can't warm up to owning an automatic for a sports car still. I traded in the XK because it was an automatic and passed sweetheart deal on an IPS new Evora. That could change. When my S2000 lease ended years ago, I went right for the automatic sedan...

If you are ever in Natick, check out European Performance Engineering on Rt 135. They are Porsche specialty shop. I was in there about a month ago and they were rebuilding a 959 engine! How many times does one ever even see a 959, never mind with the engine besides it.

Navydoc
01-20-2016, 03:35 PM
How was that car? You did not have it long... Sure is a looker.

I had it for a year and a half but wanted something in the 3 sec 0-60 range with a duel clutch. The exhaust sound on the mazzi was pretty insane though and you can get one for under 83K now with few miles.

Plus owning a lambo has always been a boyhood dream

Navydoc
01-20-2016, 03:37 PM
Thanks guys. It's "can't help laughing like a little kid" fast...

Love the breaks...and I so know that feeling :)

mmblz
01-21-2016, 06:55 AM
and I so know that feeling :)

youtube sez it is in fact almost identical :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMzhRtYxh3Q

mosesbotbol
01-21-2016, 10:35 AM
Plus owning a lambo has always been a boyhood dream

Many a boy's dream... I had the Alpine poster as a teen in my room.

Navydoc
01-22-2016, 04:34 PM
youtube sez it is in fact almost identical :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMzhRtYxh3Q

That was a sweet video...too bad I don't live in NH....love to do that for real

cbsmokin
06-18-2016, 01:15 PM
I'm a car whore.

Some rides past and present

1967 Camaro
1978 Landcruiser FJ40
997 911 C2S (gone)
997 911 C4S (gone)
2010 V8 BMW M3 drop top (gone)
2009 BMW X5 V8 (gone)
2010 Cadillaic Escallade (gone)
2014 Lexus LX570
2012 Audi A6 (gone)
2013 Audi S4 EPL Stage II

There's been lots more and I almost did the Lamborghini thing too, but for some reason didn't. I'm an idiot I've spent more on cars in my life than most spend on houses. I'm trying now to be grown up about it, but it is very hard to do.

My favorite and the one I regret letting go was the C4S. It was a manual and I drove it every day. There is no better daily driver on earth (at least for me). I miss it every day.

bugmenot
06-19-2016, 02:33 PM
996 GT3, absolutely love it. Previously had a 1995 RX-7 which was awesome, but always worried about something going wrong. GT3 has a very familiar feel as the FD without worrying about the engine blowing.

On the flip side is the raptor that gets abused as often as I can go. Say what you want about Ford, that thing has been through hell and back with very few issues. 75' jumps are not what it was engineered for...

GTS21
06-19-2016, 06:19 PM
My rides... 02 Viper and 14 RS7

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/GTS21/20140420_175210.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/GTS21/media/20140420_175210.jpg.html)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/GTS21/Mobile%20Uploads/20140102_151731.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/GTS21/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140102_151731.jpg.html)

mosesbotbol
06-20-2016, 10:38 AM
996 GT3, absolutely love it. Previously had a 1995 RX-7 which was awesome, but always worried about something going wrong. GT3 has a very familiar feel as the FD without worrying about the engine blowing.

Very cool GT3, that car is a keeper sports car. Saw the Porsche cup recently at the Canadian GP.

Chainsaw13
06-21-2016, 06:55 PM
Got some new shoes for the Z. Still need to finish bleeding the brakes, but had enough pedal to allow me to pull it out of the garage.

AdamJoshua
06-21-2016, 07:28 PM
Looking good, Bob!

mosesbotbol
06-22-2016, 05:56 AM
Got some new shoes for the Z. Still need to finish bleeding the brakes, but had enough pedal to allow me to pull it out of the garage.

That's a wonderful looking Z. Tasteful wheels! Do you have SpeedBleeders installed on your brakes?

Chainsaw13
06-22-2016, 06:36 AM
That's a wonderful looking Z. Tasteful wheels! Do you have SpeedBleeders installed on your brakes?

Thanks. I was taking a gamble buying the wheels online without seeing in person. But I really like them.

As for bleeders, I've been using a vacuum system. It's done a good job, but not sure if it's making a complete seal around the bleeder valve. Might have to go the old school route and enlist the help of a pedal pusher.

s15driftking
07-16-2016, 03:59 PM
I had it for a year and a half but wanted something in the 3 sec 0-60 range with a duel clutch. The exhaust sound on the mazzi was pretty insane though and you can get one for under 83K now with few miles.

Plus owning a lambo has always been a boyhood dream

It is incredibly how awesome the GranTurismos sound at idle. Congrats on the Lam too!

mosesbotbol
07-18-2016, 07:55 AM
It is incredibly how awesome the GranTurismos sound at idle. Congrats on the Lam too!

The overall quality of Maserati products has me on the fence about buying one. They sure look & sound cool.

Elys and I test drove a used Aston Martin Rapide on Saturday. I think that'll be our next car. Just wicked in every sense.

s15driftking
07-18-2016, 11:39 AM
The overall quality of Maserati products has me on the fence about buying one. They sure look & sound cool.

Elys and I test drove a used Aston Martin Rapide on Saturday. I think that'll be our next car. Just wicked in every sense.

Very nice! I just picked up a used R8 (v8). We are actually using it for our business or I would have gone M6V10. :)

mosesbotbol
07-18-2016, 12:00 PM
Very nice! I just picked up a used R8 (v8). We are actually using it for our business or I would have gone M6V10. :)

Wow, those are cool. A buddy had the V10 M5 in a manual. That car like 8 mpg city at best.

I know I am not the only one who'd like to see some pictures of your new ride! :dr

s15driftking
07-18-2016, 12:55 PM
Wow, those are cool. A buddy had the V10 M5 in a manual. That car like 8 mpg city at best.

I know I am not the only one who'd like to see some pictures of your new ride! :dr

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13501752_10104412126629894_6868110541812128344_n.j pg?oh=33be465f5e68298a5d06ecf4e5cf3bd4&oe=57F0FD22

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13592674_10104434774538304_6167613385127697051_n.j pg?oh=ceb0582eb93da886ac8b789a55e90132&oe=581FF8E1

HabanosBob
07-18-2016, 01:52 PM
Sweet!!

s15driftking
07-18-2016, 07:13 PM
wheels are on!

https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13718693_10104464123876994_2928798898025932198_n.j pg?oh=34ee0e46df9011299a37029e834f5c45&oe=581FBE67

mosesbotbol
07-19-2016, 05:36 AM
What kind of business necessitates having an R8? Are you fabricating a new exhaust in that picture? How long does it take to remove the back bumper section?

s15driftking
07-19-2016, 07:48 AM
What kind of business necessitates having an R8? Are you fabricating a new exhaust in that picture? How long does it take to remove the back bumper section?

I have a side business that caters to the gun industry and the car is good eye candy for visual marketing posts.

As for the exhaust, it was a purchased unit from a company called Avior (titanium). That is just a picture of the install. The place where I took it had it for 7 hours for just the install (which was the same timeframe the Audi Dealership quoted, same price too).

mosesbotbol
07-19-2016, 08:38 AM
Does Audi offer an OEM gun holster? I know BMW has them for HK's and some other guns.

s15driftking
07-19-2016, 09:05 AM
Does Audi offer an OEM gun holster? I know BMW has them for HK's and some other guns.

WHAT? for real?

mosesbotbol
07-19-2016, 09:20 AM
WHAT? for real?

Yes, they are outfitted for police cars in Europe. Just like you'd see on a Crown Vic or something...

Navydoc
09-21-2016, 04:42 PM
Added a Mansory extreme wing and

Added the Fabspeed exhaust....now you're talking noise and wings

mosesbotbol
04-11-2018, 12:48 PM
Here's a new for me, an Aston Martin Rapide:

https://s20.postimg.cc/qvkf5prf1/rapide_in_driveway.jpg

Dave128
04-11-2018, 02:41 PM
Sweet looking ride!!

icehog3
04-11-2018, 04:57 PM
Very nice! :tu

mmblz
06-19-2018, 07:27 PM
This was fun:
https://youtu.be/3h2zR-inD6E

mosesbotbol
06-21-2018, 08:27 AM
This was fun:
https://youtu.be/3h2zR-inD6E

Is that you? Where is that? Looks like a fun safe course.

mmblz
06-21-2018, 11:36 AM
Yup, me driving.
http://www.canaanmotorclub.com

Short course without elevation changes but yes safe and loads of fun.

Navydoc
06-26-2019, 05:56 AM
Time to upgrade the SUV.....

mosesbotbol
06-26-2019, 01:45 PM
Time to upgrade the SUV.....

You're getting the Urus? :banger

Are you ordering one or off the lot? I had an orange one behind me on the hwy in Raleigh, NC. As soon as it was close it was just wow. We turned off the hwy onto a country road where he passed me and it sounded amazing.

Pictures don't do the car justice. The local dealer is near my house. The had a black one that did not show off the lines at all. I bet white or silver must look killer with all the ducts.

The Poet
06-26-2019, 02:09 PM
Most of the ducks I know show yellow.

mmblz
06-26-2019, 02:55 PM
Recently was in Lake Placid. I like to drive up mountains, when possible ROFL

Navydoc
06-27-2019, 05:40 AM
You're getting the Urus? :banger

Are you ordering one or off the lot? I had an orange one behind me on the hwy in Raleigh, NC. As soon as it was close it was just wow. We turned off the hwy onto a country road where he passed me and it sounded amazing.

Pictures don't do the car justice. The local dealer is near my house. The had a black one that did not show off the lines at all. I bet white or silver must look killer with all the ducts.

Did a complete custom order. In yellow of course:noon. Expected delivery sometime in October. Shouldn't have any trouble towing the Huracan now:tu

mosesbotbol
06-27-2019, 06:10 AM
Did a complete custom order. In yellow of course:noon. Expected delivery sometime in October. Shouldn't have any trouble towing the Huracan now:tu

You'll have two Lambo's? Wow, that some garage. Is the yellow a metallic?

mmblz
06-27-2019, 10:17 AM
Did a complete custom order. In yellow of course:noon. Expected delivery sometime in October. Shouldn't have any trouble towing the Huracan now:tu

Nice! The Grand Tour episode was fun...

4WheelVFR
06-27-2019, 04:34 PM
Recently was in Lake Placid. I like to drive up mountains, when possible ROFL

Nice view! My fam and I will be in Lake Placid for a few days in August. Spending some time in New London Ct visiting a good friend, Lake Placid, Niagara, and then back home.

mmblz
09-10-2019, 10:27 AM
had fun Sunday...

icehog3
09-10-2019, 05:49 PM
had fun Sunday...

Nice! :tu

Navydoc
09-22-2019, 09:20 AM
had fun Sunday... That looks like an awesome track where is it?

mmblz
09-22-2019, 10:10 AM
NH - you should come visit!
http://www.clubmotorsports.com/

Going back next month, persuaded my wife to try a track day too

icehog3
09-22-2019, 10:18 AM
NH - you should come visit!
http://www.clubmotorsports.com/

Going back next month, persuaded my wife to try a track day too

Batten down the hatches! :D

Navydoc
09-29-2019, 02:11 PM
NH - you should come visit!
http://www.clubmotorsports.com/

Going back next month, persuaded my wife to try a track day too

Just finished a 1600 mile 4 day road rally with time on VIR and Road Atlanta...may take the GF a min to recover :r

billybarue
10-01-2019, 08:12 AM
72 charger SE (440)

billybarue
10-01-2019, 08:15 AM
65 ‘vert mustang (289 - 4 spd toploader)

billybarue
10-01-2019, 08:27 AM
Also

67 ‘vert Impala SS (327 numbers match)
60 Buick Electra 225 convertible
63 Lincoln convertible
63 Riviera (425)
61 Series 62 Cadillac Convertible
03 Mercury Marauder

mmblz
10-10-2019, 10:16 AM
So, Assetto Corsa in VR is pretty sweet - especially since I can drive more or less my exact car!

https://youtu.be/QMl_LsqvIVw
https://youtu.be/jhIXJ8dHJc0

mosesbotbol
10-11-2019, 06:10 AM
Showing my car at Audrain's Concours Event in Newport, RI in support of Aston Martin

https://i.postimg.cc/qBC9QDrd/newport-car-show-with-rapide.jpg

Navydoc
10-23-2019, 05:07 PM
Given the incredible hype about the new Subaru WRX STI S209 release in the US what do you guys think about the 64K price tag? Now take into consideration there are only going to be 209 cars available. In Japan there is one example of the previous S208 model, of which there were 450 cars made, selling for 68K and of course it's illegal in the US so even if you buy it you can't bring it into the US. Collectible? If you got one would you drive it? 6-speed manual built to be a track demon so hard not to right?

icehog3
10-23-2019, 09:44 PM
64K? Sheet, I'll take one in each color, Paul. :D

mosesbotbol
10-24-2019, 08:11 AM
Zero interest in any STi model. They lost me after they moved away from the bug eye look.

Brian D.
10-24-2019, 10:47 AM
Anybody see the story from a couple days ago where the TV reporter lost his mind and started jumping on some classic cars at an auction/show? He was fired on the spot via a phone call from his boss, but some damage was done.

Porch Dweller
10-24-2019, 02:35 PM
Anybody see the story from a couple days ago where the TV reporter lost his mind and started jumping on some classic cars at an auction/show? He was fired on the spot via a phone call from his boss, but some damage was done.

Yep. That guy is 100% undiluted a$$hole.

hammondc
10-25-2019, 08:50 AM
Anybody see the story from a couple days ago where the TV reporter lost his mind and started jumping on some classic cars at an auction/show? He was fired on the spot via a phone call from his boss, but some damage was done.

That door ding!!!!! :sl:sl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkNSDakadQE

mosesbotbol
10-25-2019, 11:53 AM
Yep. That guy is 100% undiluted a$$hole.

TV station will need to pay out on that one. What the hell was the reporter thinking?

On Fox & Friends yesterday they a segment on "the best driver's cars". Included were the Lamborghini Urus and Aston Martin DBS Superleggera. Can only imagine if one the host did the same to either car.

Navydoc
11-04-2019, 03:49 PM
Sometimes you just gotta "wing" it :)

mmblz
11-04-2019, 05:21 PM
nice! but I would still stick with the yellow one ROFL.

couple of weeks ago:

Navydoc
11-26-2019, 07:50 PM
Finally....Luigi has arrived

mosesbotbol
12-02-2019, 11:50 AM
Finally....Luigi has arrived

That's utterly marvelous. Lamborghini knocked it out of the park making that SUV really look like a Lambo. They did better than Bentley or Porsche did, IMO.

Rolls Royce and Aston both did a good job transferring that DNA into an SUV as well.

4WheelVFR
12-02-2019, 04:11 PM
Finally....Luigi has arrived

Gorgeous little suv! If I had the means, that would certainly be a nice addition to the stable.

Navydoc
12-11-2019, 05:44 PM
That's utterly marvelous. Lamborghini knocked it out of the park making that SUV really look like a Lambo. They did better than Bentley or Porsche did, IMO.

Rolls Royce and Aston both did a good job transferring that DNA into an SUV as well.

I'm looking forward to Ferrari's version:po

Brian D.
12-11-2019, 07:20 PM
What does this group think of the Maserati Levante? I saw one parked near me a few weeks ago; until then I honestly wasn't aware there is such a thing.

4WheelVFR
12-11-2019, 08:11 PM
What does this group think of the Maserati Levante? I saw one parked near me a few weeks ago; until then I honestly wasn't aware there is such a thing.

I've only seen one on the road a couple times and they seem too small to be very useful, but then again, who buys a Maserati because they're useful. Nice looking little suv though.

mmblz
12-12-2019, 07:44 AM
What does this group think of the Maserati Levante? I saw one parked near me a few weeks ago; until then I honestly wasn't aware there is such a thing.

Looks sort of like a Hyundai Kona...

mosesbotbol
12-12-2019, 07:59 AM
Maserati Levante has been basically a dud for Maserati. They were as slow as could be rolling out the car and it was already a little dated looking by the time it hit showrooms. That being said, it's probably the best manufactured Maserati out of the portfolio and offers the best value.

I am considering a used one to replace our XC60 once the lease is up. Some of the later iterations of the Levante like the GranLusso they got package just right. Other iterations have a lovely Zenga fabric inserts.

For used cars, Maserati is a brand to consider. They depreciate so much and so soon; their used cars values make for a great buy. FCA warranties and financing makes it even more attractive.

Navydoc
12-12-2019, 06:44 PM
Maserati Levante has been basically a dud for Maserati. They were as slow as could be rolling out the car and it was already a little dated looking by the time it hit showrooms. That being said, it's probably the best manufactured Maserati out of the portfolio and offers the best value.

I am considering a used one to replace our XC60 once the lease is up. Some of the later iterations of the Levante like the GranLusso they got package just right. Other iterations have a lovely Zenga fabric inserts.

For used cars, Maserati is a brand to consider. They depreciate so much and so soon; their used cars values make for a great buy. FCA warranties and financing makes it even more attractive.

But what about the reliability issue??????????

mosesbotbol
12-13-2019, 06:26 AM
But what about the reliability issue??????????

If it's got some miles on it I wouldn't be too concerned, especially with the FCA warranty (I think 5 years). No one buys a Maserati if you they are looking for the reliability; that would be a Rav 4.

I am frequent on a Maserati forum and sounds like it's just initial issues and then it's an OK car.

The wife is just so-so on the looks, so it would take some convincing and I rather have a Qporte over the Levante.

I think Maserati will eventually be a mostly electric brand FWIW. Maserati is in a weird segment; it's not up there with Ferrari, it's not as cherished and driver focused as Alfa. Where does it sit? A direct competitor to Jaguar which is also headed towards electric.

Navydoc
12-16-2019, 06:54 PM
If it's got some miles on it I wouldn't be too concerned, especially with the FCA warranty (I think 5 years). No one buys a Maserati if you they are looking for the reliability; that would be a Rav 4.

I am frequent on a Maserati forum and sounds like it's just initial issues and then it's an OK car.

The wife is just so-so on the looks, so it would take some convincing and I rather have a Qporte over the Levante.

I think Maserati will eventually be a mostly electric brand FWIW. Maserati is in a weird segment; it's not up there with Ferrari, it's not as cherished and driver focused as Alfa. Where does it sit? A direct competitor to Jaguar which is also headed towards electric.

Plus Ferrrari will stop producing engines for them in 2020

mosesbotbol
12-17-2019, 11:10 AM
Plus Ferrrari will stop producing engines for them in 2020

Is it known what they are going with? The top Alfa engines are also Ferrari manufactured, but even more "Ferrari" than what Maserati had. The Maserati turbo engines I thought had a Chrysler block that assembled by Ferrari.

The V8 Maserati twin turbo would be the one to get in a Qporte, but doesn't sound as nice. Probably would with a Larini on it.

Chainsaw13
12-30-2019, 08:40 AM
Sort of off topic for this thread, but thought maybe some of you guys might have opinions/advice. I"m eventually looking to replace my 9 y/o Ford Edge in the next year or so. Leaning towards something like a 2016-2018 Audi Q5 or the BMW X4 (hate the styling of the X5). Anyone have experience with either?

Navydoc
01-04-2020, 08:53 AM
Sort of off topic for this thread, but thought maybe some of you guys might have opinions/advice. I"m eventually looking to replace my 9 y/o Ford Edge in the next year or so. Leaning towards something like a 2016-2018 Audi Q5 or the BMW X4 (hate the styling of the X5). Anyone have experience with either?

Stay away from BMW..maint costs are crazy and they depreciate like the Titanic floats

Chainsaw13
01-04-2020, 01:27 PM
Stay away from BMW..maint costs are crazy and they depreciate like the Titanic floats

You’re the second person to tell me that. Coworker had the extended warranty, and it still cost him a lot to get a starter replaced.

The camaro show
01-04-2020, 03:28 PM
Sort of off topic for this thread, but thought maybe some of you guys might have opinions/advice. I"m eventually looking to replace my 9 y/o Ford Edge in the next year or so. Leaning towards something like a 2016-2018 Audi Q5 or the BMW X4 (hate the styling of the X5). Anyone have experience with either?

The Cadillac XT5 is a heck of a suv. The new Xt6 is nice too if you want something bigger.

mosesbotbol
01-07-2020, 08:14 AM
You’re the second person to tell me that. Coworker had the extended warranty, and it still cost him a lot to get a starter replaced.

A friend leased a 7 series. He custom ordered the car for around 120K.

When the lease ended, he took a loan out on the car with a BMW extended warranty. 2 years into the extended warranty, he passed about 20K in repair costs that was paid by the warranty.

5 years since I first got the car, I bet it's worth less than 20K at best. Looks brand new and the interior is a marvel. He check boxed every option and then some...

4WheelVFR
01-07-2020, 11:16 AM
I'm not a fan of any of the new BMW's at all. All the maint costs seem to be crazy. I'd have no problems buying a few older models though. The e85/86 Z4 3.0si or Z4M, E39 540i and M5, and any of the M3's before the F80 are all cars i'd have. ......and maint be damned I'd love an old 8 series.

mmblz
03-15-2020, 06:56 AM
My favorite sign
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=18895&d=1584276979

4WheelVFR
03-16-2020, 11:48 AM
Looks like I'm getting ready to sell our Volvo. We've really enjoyed it but it's time to move on. We'll miss that V8 sound coming out of a rather vanilla looking Volvo lol. I'm on the hunt for a 70's Cadillac now, with either the 500 or 472 V8. I didn't realize how difficult decent ones are to find, but the hunt is on.

icehog3
03-16-2020, 05:10 PM
That's awesome, Ray. Hope you find a good one. :tu

4WheelVFR
03-17-2020, 06:11 PM
That's awesome, Ray. Hope you find a good one. :tu

I hope so. I remember my Dad's 84 Fleetwood with the floaty ride and super comfy seats, so I have a soft spot for older American cars like that. I don't want car payments anymore, so it should be some fun on a budget.

icehog3
03-18-2020, 12:52 PM
Watched "Green Book" last night, the car features a beautiful 1962 Sedan DeVille . :tu

4WheelVFR
03-29-2020, 12:20 PM
Watched "Green Book" last night, the car features a beautiful 1962 Sedan DeVille . :tu

On my budget, "beautiful" will probably turn into "doable" lol.

The Poet
03-29-2020, 08:45 PM
Looks like I'm getting ready to sell our Volvo. We've really enjoyed it but it's time to move on. We'll miss that V8 sound coming out of a rather vanilla looking Volvo lol. I'm on the hunt for a 70's Cadillac now, with either the 500 or 472 V8. I didn't realize how difficult decent ones are to find, but the hunt is on.

Found one for you, if they do not cancel the Mecum auction at Indy this May. Could maybe go for less than you think, as these sometimes go for less than others, like a Chevy SS. Plus, it is offered with no reserve.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-413954/1974-cadillac-deville-coupe/

4WheelVFR
03-30-2020, 07:59 PM
Found one for you, if they do not cancel the Mecum auction at Indy this May. Could maybe go for less than you think, as these sometimes go for less than others, like a Chevy SS. Plus, it is offered with no reserve.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0520-413954/1974-cadillac-deville-coupe/

Whoa, that is a good find. I'll be keeping an eye on that, but I seriously doubt they'll run the auction in May.

The Poet
03-30-2020, 08:08 PM
Whoa, that is a good find. I'll be keeping an eye on that, but I seriously doubt they'll run the auction in May.

I thought you'd like that. Also doubt May auction will happen, but at least you know this is out there for sale.

The camaro show
03-30-2020, 09:16 PM
There’s a gold Deville in town I’d say a 72-73 daily driver when I first saw it it wasn’t bad but last time idk what they did but they took off half the paint.

mmblz
06-04-2020, 05:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KET4-e9rB4g

n3uka
06-06-2020, 11:57 PM
My humble playtoy.

18995

Porch Dweller
06-07-2020, 06:51 AM
My humble playtoy.

18995

That's a beauty!

icehog3
06-07-2020, 11:17 AM
My humble playtoy.

18995

She's gorgeous, Dave! :banger

mmblz
10-17-2020, 08:48 PM
Lovely weather today https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=XYvarqzjgHU

mosesbotbol
05-03-2021, 09:32 AM
I've been borrowing one of the coolest cars to come out recently, the Aston Martin DBX. It's their first SUV and really sublime by any measure.

https://i.postimg.cc/zXVh4S8T/dbx-front.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/VLptwrkp/DBX-in-garage.jpg

The Poet
05-03-2021, 10:00 AM
I've been borrowing one of the coolest cars to come out recently, the Aston Martin DBX. It's their first SUV and really sublime by any measure.

https://i.postimg.cc/zXVh4S8T/dbx-front.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/VLptwrkp/DBX-in-garage.jpg

Nice. Are the machine guns standard or an option?

mosesbotbol
05-03-2021, 10:20 AM
Nice. Are the machine guns standard or an option?

Not sure on the machine guns, but shotgun cases for the back are an option. -(P

mmblz
05-03-2021, 11:02 AM
Nice posters, too. I'm driving at the Glen next month for the first time...

mosesbotbol
05-03-2021, 01:00 PM
Nice posters, too. I'm driving at the Glen next month for the first time...

Thanks! I have a bunch others on the other walls too. You must by excited! Iconic track.

I have some duplicates of the posters from the Glen if you are interested in buying some (in new rolled condition). I bought a several from someone who lived near the track in the 70's and 80's. Sold a bunch over the years, but have a few left.

Any here can PM if interested.

mmblz
06-14-2021, 08:33 AM
Fun

icehog3
06-14-2021, 08:53 AM
Fun

Nice! :tu