Fake Cohiba?

[mahtofire14]

I recently discovered this Cohiba with what I thought was a fake band on it. It's very very similar to the real band however what I have noticed (previous experience, research) is that all of these bands have 3 rows of white dots above the "COHIBA" emblem, and this particular one has four. Also you don't see it in the picture but the "COHIBA" is gold (which is should be). Thoughts?
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii91/drscholl14/A27B2FA3-DB68-43CB-A015-A98A8F45855F-6826-00000935BF1CE8DF.jpg?t=1352921248

[T.G]

Unless there has been some very recent change, not aware of any legitimate Cohiba bands with 4 distinctly complete rows of dots above the name.

[N2 GOLD]

Could be a "TOURIST SPECIAL"

How did you get it???

[mahtofire14]

That is exactly why I thought it was fake. Buddy (not much of a cigar smoker) went to the Dominican and bought a box of ten of these. Asked me to if he could keep them in one of my humis for him. I said sure automatically assuming they were fake. Well 3 years later he hasn't smoked one of them and I found them the other day, realized the band was actually pretty similar and decided to end all the questions. So here it is. :rolleyes:

[pnoon]

That is exactly why I thought it was fake. Buddy (not much of a cigar smoker) went to the Dominican and bought a box of ten of these. Asked me to if he could keep them in one of my humis for him. I said sure automatically assuming they were fake. Well 3 years later he hasn't smoked one of them and I found them the other day, realized the band was actually pretty similar and decided to end all the questions. So here it is. :rolleyes:

Does the box have a glass top?

[big pete]

No triple cap (pic is kinda blurry)?

[hotreds]

Cohibo!

[ziggy4112003]

Fake, the true acid test is as always the taste, I know given that Cuba is a socialist state quality control will not always to par. Which means that not every band is gonna be perfect, however, given that Cohiba is a high end cuban meant orginally an exclusive Castro the only imperfections I know of which Cohiba bands are them not being entirely str8 when put on the stick, "COHIBA" should be in gold but there should only be three rows of dots above.

here is a great site to use
http://cubancigarwebsite.com

[mahtofire14]

Does the box have a glass top?

Yes it does.

Big Pete: It looks to be a double cap.

To me the construction looks a bit shotty for a Cohiba of any nationality IMHO

[CigarSquid]

Yes it does.

Big Pete: It looks to be a double cap.

To me the construction looks a bit shotty for a Cohiba of any nationality IMHO

:confused::sl

[AlohaStyle]

:confused::sl

LOL

If you had to ask, you already knew the answer. And please educate your buddy that no cuban cigars come in glass top boxes.

[CigarSquid]

When I was in Mexico back in September... I was approached by so many, offering these. I finally had enough and told the guy, No, I do not want your fake Cubans! He replied with anger.. What do you mean fake?

I fired back with, See the glass.. REAL Cubans do not come that way! He was very upset.. Still in his sight, I ended up walking into J & J Habanos.. Made sure he seen me.

[mahtofire14]

That's a good point. Didn't even consider what they came in....:fp

[N2 GOLD]

Here are some pic's of the "TOURIST SPECIAL"

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLhMn_RAFyFrXFiSjBoO8MS6vba4bTT z4FcwX2BVQCJFTmejn_

I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake.

[pnoon]

Here are some pic's of the "TOURIST SPECIAL"

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLhMn_RAFyFrXFiSjBoO8MS6vba4bTT z4FcwX2BVQCJFTmejn_

I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake.

Well that is pure horse hockey.
:2

[T.G]

I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake.


While the Cuban Cohiba is, or was the last time I checked, the most counterfeited cigar on the planet, I think that your "99% of all Cohibas are fake" statement is, at the very least, highly inaccurate. Do you have a credible source you can cite for this information?

[markem]

I personally DON'T buy Cohiba anything for this exact reason. It doesn't matter what country you are in, with the exception of Cuba 99% Cohibas are fake.

So, you are saying that SA Habanos is 1% of the Cohiba market? Remember that most in Cuba cannot afford a Cohiba and there are fakes even there.

[AlohaStyle]

Well that is pure horse hockey.
:2

+1

And you sure as hell can find plenty of fake Cohibas in Cuba. Interesting how someone can think the LCDH's around the world sell fake Cohibas...

[iaMkcK]

I'm sure he meant it offhandedly, and not honestly meaning 1/100 are real.. But I can't speak for the man.. It's up to him to say what he actually meant.

[bobarian]

Provenance, provenance, provenance. Know and trust your sources.
Clearly the cigar pictured is a fake, and not a very good one at that. But the statement that 99% of all Cohiba's are fakes is as wrong as wrong can be. Fake Cohiba's as well as fake OpusX's come from purchasing through shady sources. :2

[icehog3]

I have smoked 200 Cohibas....glad to know that 2 of them were likely real.

[N2 GOLD]

Well that is pure horse hockey.
:2

While the Cuban Cohiba is, or was the last time I checked, the most counterfeited cigar on the planet, I think that your "99% of all Cohibas are fake" statement is, at the very least, highly inaccurate. Do you have a credible source you can cite for this information?

So, you are saying that SA Habanos is 1% of the Cohiba market? Remember that most in Cuba cannot afford a Cohiba and there are fakes even there.

+1

And you sure as hell can find plenty of fake Cohibas in Cuba. Interesting how someone can think the LCDH's around the world sell fake Cohibas...

All you gentlemen make & have a valid point. Which is why I started my statement as" I PERSONALLY DON'T BUY " I was speak for myself & personal experience with the "Cohiba Brand". I know that talking about CC's in most cases is stepping on toes. But in no way, shape or form did I try & recommend anyone else to do so. I know some folks here have a far more superior knowledge CC's than myself. So if I ruffle any feathers I can assure you those were not my intentions.

[icehog3]

No worries, Rico, my feathers are firmly in place. :)

[pnoon]

I'm with Tom, Rio. My feathers aren't ruffled. And I don't think I or anyone else had issue with your statement that you personally don't buy Cohiba. Your second statement (claim) is what I/we think is BS.

[Robulous78]

I have nothing to add to this... other then it is helpful to read these threads as a noob and learn what to look for when judging the authenticity of a CC.

[iaMkcK]

I hear you Rico; personally: I don't buy Cohiba's either.

They are probably amazing smokes, but sadly I'll never know unless I wind up getting one in a sampler or something to that effect. My local B&M's start them off at $20, and for that price I can get 2 very decent cigars -- Hell I believe they have a Padron Anny around the same price range.

I'd love to try a Cohiba -- The only one I've smoked was a fake, and I knew it was a fake, but I took one for the team so I knew what fakes tasted like.

[AlohaStyle]

it is helpful to read these threads as a noob and learn what to look for when judging the authenticity of a CC.

Correct and now back to the topic... the only glass that should come with a cuban cigar is one that is full of rum. :)

[bobarian]

I hear you Rico; personally: I don't buy Cohiba's either.

They are probably amazing smokes, but sadly I'll never know unless I wind up getting one in a sampler or something to that effect. My local B&M's start them off at $20, and for that price I can get 2 very decent cigars -- Hell I believe they have a Padron Anny around the same price range.

I'd love to try a Cohiba -- The only one I've smoked was a fake, and I knew it was a fake, but I took one for the team so I knew what fakes tasted like.

I'm sorry, but it is very doubtful your local shop is claiming to sell Cuban cigars. And while Dominican Cohiba's are authentic, they are hardly a part of this conversation. :sh

[iaMkcK]

I was speaking specifically about Non-Cubans when referring to buying them from a store. My buddy had a fake DR Cohiba to top it all off. I realize this thread was about the CC counter-part, and even Rico was talking specifically about CCs being fake.. I'm speaking about them in general. I know they are different species all together, the NC vs CC.. I just don't think I can justify owning either at this point in my life.

Trust me, if the shop I frequented tried selling me a "Cuban", I'd walk out and never return.

[Brlesq]

Was "Habana" written on there with a Sharpie? :D

[mahtofire14]

Was "Habana" written on there with a Sharpie? :D

:r NO! May as well have been. I hadn't really thought about "glass top" cigar boxes being a dead giveaway.....

[T.G]

I'm with Tom, Rio. My feathers aren't ruffled. And I don't think I or anyone else had issue with your statement that you personally don't buy Cohiba. Your second statement (claim) is what I/we think is BS.

My sentiments & feelings exactly.

[T.G]

I was speaking specifically about Non-Cubans when referring to buying them from a store. My buddy had a fake DR Cohiba to top it all off. I realize this thread was about the CC counter-part, and even Rico was talking specifically about CCs being fake.. I'm speaking about them in general. I know they are different species all together, the NC vs CC.. I just don't think I can justify owning either at this point in my life.

Trust me, if the shop I frequented tried selling me a "Cuban", I'd walk out and never return.


Could you describe the band on the possible fake one that your friend received? It might not actually be a fake DR Cohiba as there used to be another company distributing cigars in the US under the Cohiba name until General Cigar won their infringement lawsuit against them.

[Robulous78]

CC or NC... Cohiba's... in my most humble of opinions... are priced prohibitively high... when you throw in the fact that they are also the most counterfeited brand... It makes me even more cautious about buying them...

The NC's I had were good... some were even great... but I got them as gifts or in a sampler... I have been interested in acquiring one from the island... but with my noob-ness I am almost sure I would end up with something fake... It is very helpful when you CC aficionados talk about the specific trademarks that let you know it is real... (like the only 3 dots or the non glass boxes) are there any other "red flags" that let you know your being scammed?

[bobarian]

I have never seen any evidence that Dominican Cohiba's are being faked. That is not to say is doesnt happen, but a retailer has very little to gain by selling fakes. I have only heard of Padron and Opus fakes in recent memory.

The only way to know you are purchasing authentic Cuban Cohiba's is to know and trust your vendor. :2 Cigars can easily be rebanded with authentic labels and packed in legitimate boxes. But a trusted retailer will not risk reputation and future sales to trick a few unsuspecting souls. :2

[iaMkcK]

Could you describe the band on the possible fake one that your friend received? It might not actually be a fake DR Cohiba as there used to be another company distributing cigars in the US under the Cohiba name until General Cigar won their infringement lawsuit against them.

It was in a Glass Top Dominican Republic EL box. The band was the typical Cuban Cohiba band, but it said Dominican Republic. It was also of the Candela-esque in color. I have the band laying around. I'll take a snap of it later. I didn't want to take a picture in front of my buddy of the cigar, because he was adamant about it being authentic -- but I kept the band for comedy sake.. It was had for $8 at a local shop that he refused to reveal because he wanted to have some kind of.. I don't know.. "Advantage" over me in the cigar world.

[iaMkcK]

And here we are:

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q628/kcK88/PicsArt_1352944584415.jpg

[Robulous78]

Glad to know what I should be looking for... Can anyone post an Authentic band for comparison?

[markem]

Glad to know what I should be looking for... Can anyone post an Authentic band for comparison?

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Cohiba

[Robulous78]

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Cohiba

Thanks Markem...

[T.G]

And here we are:

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q628/kcK88/PicsArt_1352944584415.jpg


Yup, that's the lawsuit band.

Not fake. Just a different manufacturer.

More info here:
http://www.afficionadocigar.com/webfeatures/show/id/2860

[iaMkcK]

I had thought that as well, but the bands that I saw that were from that lawsuit, did not resemble the one I had. And the fact that it was a green cigar sends up even more red flags. Maybe they took the bands and put them on some candelas. Either way, I'll concede -- I stand corrected.

EDIT :: Interesting that a cigar from 6 years ago is floating around up here.

[Porch Dweller]

I hear you Rico; personally: I don't buy Cohiba's either.

They are probably amazing smokes, but sadly I'll never know unless I wind up getting one in a sampler or something to that effect. My local B&M's start them off at $20, and for that price I can get 2 very decent cigars -- Hell I believe they have a Padron Anny around the same price range.

I'd love to try a Cohiba -- The only one I've smoked was a fake, and I knew it was a fake, but I took one for the team so I knew what fakes tasted like.

I've had a handful of CC Cohibas and they were amongst the best things I've ever smoked. I've had about 15 NC Cohibas and while good, IMO they're overpriced. I've smoked much better cigars at half the cost. IMO the price of the NCs is in a large part based off of the name on the band.

[Robulous78]

I've had a handful of CC Cohibas and they were amongst the best things I've ever smoked. I've had about 15 NC Cohibas and while good, IMO they're overpriced. I've smoked much better cigars at half the cost. IMO the price of the NCs is in a large part based off of the name on the band.

Being as I have never had the real deal... can anyone speak as to weather they are better then the HdM CC's? I like the NC Cohiba's but I LOVE HC HdM's... So I was thinking about trying to make a CC HdM my first CC... but everyone talks about the CC Cohiba so I have no idea as to which I should be hunting for...

Thoughts?

[icehog3]

can anyone speak as to weather they are better then the HdM CC's? I like the NC Cohiba's but I LOVE HC HdM's... So I was thinking about trying to make a CC HdM my first CC... but everyone talks about the CC Cohiba so I have no idea as to which I should be hunting for...

Thoughts?

No one can with certainty, because it is all a matter of personal taste.

I don't care for HdMs at all, with the exception of the "du" lines.

I like Cohibas a lot.

Does that mean Cohibas are better than HdMs?

Maybe for me, but not for everyone else. :2

[pnoon]

To be clear, there is no correlation, association, or similarity between NCs and CCs of the same name.

[Robulous78]

To be clear, there is no correlation, association, or similarity between NCs and CCs of the same name.

So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?

[Robulous78]

If what I have gathered from my reading is correct... CC's have a unique taste/flavor you only get from CC's... I thought this was just an addition to the NC counterparts flavor profile...

I wish I could be more specific, but I have no experience with CC's so I don't even know if this is true... Guess I need to make some Canadian friends... LoL

[pnoon]

So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?

Absolutely not.

[T.G]

I had thought that as well, but the bands that I saw that were from that lawsuit, did not resemble the one I had. And the fact that it was a green cigar sends up even more red flags. Maybe they took the bands and put them on some candelas. Either way, I'll concede -- I stand corrected.

EDIT :: Interesting that a cigar from 6 years ago is floating around up here.

There actually is/was a 4th Cohiba, made by Monti Cristi, something about only being sold on the island, I don't know for certain if they are still being produced, but I believe they were still in production about 4-5 years ago.

Some of those have been known to sneak off the island.

Maybe I have the band assignments backwards. :sh

[AlohaStyle]

So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?

To add to the other answers... the Cuban brand and NC brand have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Totally separate companies/blends/marketing etc. Nothing. The NC name is a blatant copy of the cuban name/image here in the US.

And to think a CC Cohiba Robusto is too expensive... they are cheaper than a lot of high-end Nicaraguan and Dominicans. Do you buy the Tatuaje Monster cigars? They are more expensive than I pay for Cohiba Robustos.

[JJKJR]

I got these same cigars as a gift from my wife who was in Haiti. She bought them from a roadside vender being told and believing they were CC's. Just as everyone else stated they were very poorly constructed and 2 of the ten pack had beetle holes in them. I did the freezer kill on the remaining 8. I didn't especially like the cigars. I can't say they were the worse I ever smoked but they were far from the best. I wouldn't consider getting these again. I remember reading somewhere on this site that the true NC's band has the "O" in Cohiba colored red.

[Sonic04GT]

I'm sure he meant it offhandedly, and not honestly meaning 1/100 are real.. But I can't speak for the man.. It's up to him to say what he actually meant.

That's what I got out of it. I've noticed many folks around here take things very literally and seriously.

[Sonic04GT]

Yup, that's the lawsuit band.

Not fake. Just a different manufacturer.

More info here:
http://www.afficionadocigar.com/webfeatures/show/id/2860
"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

:O:c

[pnoon]

"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

:O:c

It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously. ;)

[Robulous78]

It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously. ;)

:po

[bigunit66]

I trust more online vendors than B&M's in any third world country.

[havanabound]

Damn it!

My buddy who goes to cuba, keeps bringing back discounted boxes of cohibas that he gets from someone he "trusts". These cigars in the most legitimate looking box, sealed with government seal and all (box of 25) all have the 4 dots above the cohiba name.

My other friends that went to an actual government store and bought them full price and legitimately, those all had 3 dots. And I've smoked them all. Now I'm left with about 20 of the fake ones. I must say though, they're still pretty damn fine smokes, even though they're probably knock offs.

The one I just received from switzerland has 3 dots.

[aj_chicago]

All I can say is I sure do miss the "fake" yellow band Cohibas. I like mild and I think they were a great bang for the buck and thoroughly enjoyed them. Does anyone know what brand/name they were replaced with after General Cigars won the law suit with the "non-Cuban" (3rd) Cohiba company?

[Sweet_Leaf_PDX]

I was recently in the Dominican Republic and saw tons of these fake Cohibas for sale. At the only legitimate cigar store I found there, legit Cohibas were very expensive. I ended up buying a Paratags, Punch and RyJ CC and found them all to be excellent smokes.

To the point of not being able to judge a CC by it's NC counterpart - RyJ are not normally my thing, but I loved the CC version.

Hypothesis: Your odds of getting a legit CC are better, assuming you don't 100% trust the source, if you go with a brand other than Cohiba?

[pnoon]

I was recently in the Dominican Republic and saw tons of these fake Cohibas for sale. At the only legitimate cigar store I found there, legit Cohibas were very expensive. I ended up buying a Paratags, Punch and RyJ CC and found them all to be excellent smokes.

To the point of not being able to judge a CC by it's NC counterpart - RyJ are not normally my thing, but I loved the CC version.

Hypothesis: Your odds of getting a legit CC are better, assuming you don't 100% trust the source, if you go with a brand other than Cohiba?

There is no "counterpart" or association other than the two share the same name. In no way should they ever be associated. There is no such thing as a "non-Cuban version" of a Cuban marca - or vice versa. It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Tatuaje or Gurkha and compared the two.

[pektel]

It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Gurkha.

Sounds like a prank someone could play on Tom at a herf.

[Sweet_Leaf_PDX]

There is no "counterpart" or association other than the two share the same name. In no way should they ever be associated. There is no such thing as a "non-Cuban version" of a Cuban marca - or vice versa. It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Tatuaje or Gurkha and compared the two.

I didn't know that there was no association at all. This all makes so much more sense now, I feel enlightened :tu

[icehog3]

Sounds like a prank someone could play on Tom at a herf.

Hopefully there will be a dentist at the herf for the jokester, Peter. ;)

[AdamJoshua]

:lv

[Da Klugs]

Hey mine have 4 rows of dots are they fake?

[AdamJoshua]

Def real see how the last "c" in Klugica doesn't break the line of the "a" .. that right there is a good one!

[Simple1]

:po

[montrealtony]

hi i have 2 boxes of robustos and just opened them today they have 9 rows of dots.. and a gold hologram band on top of the dots .. they are not my style i have 50 of them for sale if anyone is interested.. i live in edmonton alberta and can ship anywhere permitted

[badbriar]

Got y'all beat...
Got me a fake CC or maybe NC Cohiba straight from someone who knew someone who sneaked a box of real fake Cohibas in from one of the South or Central American resorts. Pretty bad printed wrapper with 7 rows of dots, gold foil head and name, but no emboss in the word Cohiba and the wrapper is affixed with too much glue and crooked to boot. Horrible construction, lots of mottling, sun spots, veins and bumps. Not a spot of oil and toothy as a dirt road. Even has faded black type! Poor thing is a fugly little bent stick with single cap. Still says Cohiba, though! Think I'm gonna keep it for April 1! :lr

[icehog3]

hi i have 2 boxes of robustos and just opened them today they have 9 rows of dots.. and a gold hologram band on top of the dots .. they are not my style i have 50 of them for sale if anyone is interested.. i live in edmonton alberta and can ship anywhere permitted

Selling Cuban cigars is not permitted on this forum. Please acquaint yourself with our rules if you want to become part of the community.

[dmiller662]

for educational purposes only

good to go....

[T.G]

for educational purposes only

good to go....

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=16518&d=1454388032
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=16519&d=1454388051



What exactly do you mean by "Good to go" ?

Or maybe I should ask, "good to go" where? And is the trash can an option?

That Cohiba band is pretty sketchy. The Romeo might be ok though.

[pnoon]

for educational purposes only

good to go....

I'm confused. Please explain.

[Adriftpanda]

My same exact thoughts, Adam.

Cohiba band looks way off. RyJ band looks solid though.

[mahtofire14]

It's alive....How did this thread get dug up?

[pnoon]

for educational purposes only

good to go....

I'm confused. Please explain.

:tt

[dmiller662]

LOL.. if you say so....

[pnoon]

LOL.. if you say so....

:sw

I honestly don't understand what you meant by your post.

[Brlesq]

LOL.. if you say so....

LOL right back at you, our new friend. That Cohiba band is about as authentic as Rachel Dolezal.

[Weelok]

As always, fakes are clever. Hard to keep up but refresh this since topic is resurrected.

Check the magazine link and here of course and hope for best :)

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/counterfeit/view/id/15403

[dmiller662]

no time to entertain FRT's

[icehog3]

Female Reproductive Tract?

Family Reunion Travel?

Finland Racing Team?

[bobarian]

Free Range Turkey:sh

[AdamJoshua]

Facebook Response Time?
For Real Though +1

as the kids say .. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[joatmon]

Flying Radioactive Turtles?

[T.G]

Fried Rolled Tacos?

[bobarian]

Fried Rolled Tacos?

Wrong thread Adam. This goes in the Indoor Herf food thread.:banger:D

[dmiller662]

Fo dw

[icehog3]

Love the avatar, Adam, Dick Hacker choking the chicken again....

[icehog3]

OK, another guess...... Farting Releases Turds?

[T.G]

Fo dw

Friends of Dennis Weaver?

[Adriftpanda]

Family of David Wales?

[Brlesq]

Before Doctor Who?

[T.G]

From Our Deepest Wells?

[joatmon]

Freezing Off Dog Warts?

[CigarNut]

Maybe a ToE should move this thread to the Banter section...

[dmiller662]

maybe check the family tree

[markem]

no time to entertain FRT's

I suggest that since you have no time that you sit back and figure things out. I know that you already know what the site is all about and how best to fix it with your witty remarks, but it may be best for you to sit on your hands (try not to fart).

[pnoon]

no time to entertain FRT's

Fo dw

maybe check the family tree

Since you are new here, you might consider dispensing with the cryptic remarks and try and establish some credibility here. What you're doing now is boderline trolling.

[jonumberone]

Fondle our desperate women?

[Adriftpanda]

MK05? Dat you?

[dmiller662]

Since you are new here, you might consider dispensing with the cryptic remarks and try and establish some credibility here. What you're doing now is boderline trolling.

no need to be cryptic and I don't troll... but you can call it whatever you want.. I love when a forum decides to bash for no reason.. and its always funny people like to bash miles away and over a internet.. My address is available at anytime to anyone. Im a grown man, and don't need kids wanting to pretend they are grown.. Anyone form this forum is welcome to come on by my house , go through my collection, pick one out, feel free to smoke it, along with a nice drink on my patio, and have a manly conversation with me.. Get to know me, don't assume anything until you meet me in person! We can even have a Lank measuring contest if that would make someone feel better.. Hell its true, everything is bigger in TX.... I have no shame whipping mine out, but bring big tape measure...

[AdamJoshua]

I think the only question was what you meant by good to go, like they are "good" or "bad" or whatever, you know more of an explanation or well a post. :tu

FRT and I (and I'm assuming others) honestly have no idea what that means heh

[pnoon]

no need to be cryptic and I don't troll... but you can call it whatever you want.. I love when a forum decides to bash for no reason.. and its always funny people like to bash miles away and over a internet.. My address is available at anytime to anyone. Im a grown man, and don't need kids wanting to pretend they are grown.. Anyone form this forum is welcome to come on by my house , go through my collection, pick one out, feel free to smoke it, along with a nice drink on my patio, and have a manly conversation with me.. Get to know me, don't assume anything until you meet me in person! We can even have a Lank measuring contest if that would make someone feel better.. Hell its true, everything is bigger in TX.... I have no shame whipping mine out, but bring big tape measure...
Appreciate your hospitality. But some of your posts haven't been clear. Many have been asking for clarification which you have ignored. If you're a "grown man", act like one and be a bit more open and humble. And respond to legitimate questions.

[Porch Dweller]

no need to be cryptic and I don't troll... but you can call it whatever you want.. I love when a forum decides to bash for no reason.. and its always funny people like to bash miles away and over a internet.. My address is available at anytime to anyone. Im a grown man, and don't need kids wanting to pretend they are grown.. Anyone form this forum is welcome to come on by my house , go through my collection, pick one out, feel free to smoke it, along with a nice drink on my patio, and have a manly conversation with me.. Get to know me, don't assume anything until you meet me in person! We can even have a Lank measuring contest if that would make someone feel better.. Hell its true, everything is bigger in TX.... I have no shame whipping mine out, but bring big tape measure...

I thought it was abundantly obvious that no one really knew what the heck you were trying to say with your first post in this thread. Then when questioned your responses just became more and more cryptic.

No one was "bashing for no reason", unless you feel that someone stating "I'm confused. Please explain" and "I honestly don't understand what you meant by your post" is bashing. If that's the case then yes, everything including overly sensitive whining IS bigger in Texas.

And do you really think that "come by my house and I'll show you my d--k" is the first impression you want to give at a forum?

[dmiller662]

Actually , was just sitting here and thinking..

I am a member of Several Forums (not Cigar related), and which some I am a sponser, some a Vendor, and some just a member.

I came here because I am a AVID cigar smoker who ENJOYS a smoke, I have a pretty nice collection, and im in the middle of doing a build , etc.. And after researching, I thought I understood this to be the go to site..

I thought I would visit on a regular basis, and become a regular visitor here, and with my build get some valuable advice, as well as maybe even give some advise to some..

But I clearly see now, it must be the wrong place for me... I surely must be in the wrong and am just another dumb A-- that doesn't deserve to be a part of such a community that's over my intellectual thinking... and didn't realize I need to be the forum B---- first and foremost...

Again my apologies, and im sure you being a mod, or someone clearly in power, as im only the shop boy, I will stay off your forum... and im sure to expect a Ban....

Thanks to others that have been civil, I appreciate you.....

[Porch Dweller]

These were your responses to legitimate questions about your first post in this thread:

LOL.. if you say so....

no time to entertain FRT's

Fo dw

maybe check the family tree

So allow yourself to answer yourself:

I surely must be in the wrong and am just another dumb A-- that doesn't deserve to be a part of such a community that's over my intellectual thinking.

[dmiller662]

yep... my ethnic spectrum is way below your standards I guess

[Adriftpanda]

You will be missed.

[kydsid]

I dont think you will be banned for not understanding clear questions when others are confused. I have no idea what you are on (about) but Im thinking about moving out of Texas so I dont have to worry about a herf including a meassuring contest....seriously that's just a weird thing to say.

[dmiller662]

I dont think you will be banned for not understanding clear questions when others are confused. I have no idea what you are on (about) but Im thinking about moving out of Texas so I dont have to worry about a herf including a meassuring contest....seriously that's just a weird thing to say.

good luck on your journey if you decide to undertake it...

[Adriftpanda]

So that's how you boys herf down south... And here I thought us Bay Area guys were weird.

[big_jaygee]

So that's how you boys herf down south... And here I thought us Bay Area guys were weird.

Must be a North Texas thing.... First I am hearing about that event taking place at a herf.

[kydsid]

Must be a North Texas thing.... First I am hearing about that event taking place at a herf.

It would have given a new meaning to the Big Damn Wing Ding herf though :r

[WhiteMamba]

and this is why you should only buy cigars from reputable sources.

[Brlesq]

Must be a North Texas thing.... First I am hearing about that event taking place at a herf.

This reminded me of an old joke . . .
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2073597#post2073597

[CigarNut]

yep... my ethnic spectrum is way below your standards I guess

You never answered a single question to clarify your posts, and you decide to retreat and take the easy way out. Blame everyone else and accept no personal responsibility.

:tf

[big_jaygee]

It would have given a new meaning to the Big Damn Wing Ding herf though :r

Stogies would never be the same :lr

[Weelok]

Ok, I'm ignorant but what is FRT? Seriously, I have no idea. I live in an acronym rich environment as we all do but FRT is new to me.

[Weelok]

Oh, and I took the "good to go" statement as they were legit Cubans and I agree, they are legit. My two cents.

[markem]

good luck on your journey if you decide to undertake it...

Do you shoot skeet?

[CigarNut]

Do you shoot skeet?

:r :r

[massphatness]

Ok, I'm ignorant but what is FRT? Seriously, I have no idea. I live in an acronym rich environment as we all do but FRT is new to me.

I'm going to guess "F'ing retreads" but not retreads

[Weelok]

If it's Fweeking Retodded Trolls, well, I have been known to be guilty of that ahahahahaha but not many take that as a proud acknowledgement and it's often poor taste to enter a new board that way so hopefully it's more like Forward Repair Team.

[Tio Gato]

"What we have here is failure to communicate.":bh

FTR and fo dw and check the family tree confused me for sure. Now I'm trying to figure out what "ethnic spectrum" is all about.:confused:

I do know persecutory delusion when I see it. :tf:tf:tf

[Porch Dweller]

"What we have here is failure to communicate.":bh

FTR and fo dw and check the family tree confused me for sure. Now I'm trying to figure out what "ethnic spectrum" is all about.:confused:

I do know persecutory delusion when I see it. :tf

The "fo" is f--k off. I'm going to take a guess that the "dw" is d--k wad.

He'll explain what "ethnic spectrum" is if you go to his house with a tape measure. He'll get you a cigar and a drink, and then you'll have to put up with some...unpleasantness, but after that I'm sure he'll explain.
:D

[Tio Gato]

Thanks for enlightening me. I love learning new stuff.:)

[8zeros]

Just out of curiosity, and maybe cuz this thread has unraveled, what looks suspect about the Cohiba? I haven't seen or smoked many and looking at that link that was posted the only thing I can figure is the type might be too bold.
Oh, and all's well out here in west central TX.

[AdamJoshua]

Thanks for enlightening me. I love learning new stuff.:)

fo dw!

:gary

[kydsid]

I wonder if this guy just assumed we all knew what he was saying all along and were just making fun of him by asking.

[Brlesq]

I wonder if this guy just assumed we all knew what he was saying all along and were just making fun of him by asking.

Fo' shizzle

[Weelok]

:chrI do have another question. If I visit And we are measuring male appendages, if I do smoke a cigar, has it been given a Lewinsky treatment or a Caitlyn Jenner special cigar? I'm not completely sure which is worst but I pretty sure I can attempt to hijack this thread while we discuss it?

:chr
-(P

[dmiller662]

:chrI do have another question. If I visit And we are measuring male appendages, if I do smoke a cigar, has it been given a Lewinsky treatment or a Caitlyn Jenner special cigar? I'm not completely sure which is worst but I pretty sure I can attempt to hijack this thread while we discuss it?

:chr
-(P

Well if I had my choice, and had to go with one or the other, much rather give it the Ol' Lewinsky treatment myself.. And bless Bill!!!

[Weelok]

Well if I had my choice, and had to go with one or the other, much rather give it the Ol' Lewinsky treatment myself.. And bless Bill!!!

ahahah, and I have to agree with you completely!!! Ok, but here is the next probably even more important question. Who here will admit to having Lewinsky'd a cigar? I have had one Lewinsky but no Caitlyn Jenners and no plans on a Caitlyn Jenner.

[kydsid]

I Lewinskied a Gurkha. I was desperate to make it taste better. :r

[dmiller662]

ahahah, and I have to agree with you completely!!! Ok, but here is the next probably even more important question. Who here will admit to having Lewinsky'd a cigar? I have had one Lewinsky but no Caitlyn Jenners and no plans on a Caitlyn Jenner.

Well........ Jennering a Cigar is out of the question............. Well maybe, just maybe being paid enough money to purchase a small private island, and get plenty of counseling, with plenty of money left over, just might be a consideration......... Nah, I considered, and its still a NO!!

[Dave128]

In all seriousness, dmiller662, can you please clarify what you meant by "good to go"? I'm sure the majority of the group would also appreciate it.

On another serious note, first impressions are damn near impossible to erase. You'll find that these are a great group of guys and gals that hang out here. As you are a new member here, I'd strongly suggest taking a step or two back and rethink how you've jumped at the legit questions asked of you. Just my :2

[cmitch]

As far as the overall band dmiller posted, I don't see what's so far off about it. It has the correct number of rows above Cohiba, the font is correct but I can see the font looks a tad bit too bold but without actually holding the band, it's hard to tell. I only have 3 authentic Cohibas to compare it to and 2 are Maduro 5's (Secretos and Genios).

[markem]

As far as the overall band dmiller posted, I don't see what's so far off about it. It has the correct number of rows above Cohiba, the font is correct but I can see the font looks a tad bit too bold but without actually holding the band, it's hard to tell. I only have 3 authentic Cohibas to compare it to and 2 are Maduro 5's (Secretos and Genios).

True Cohiba bands will not truncate any row of squares. That's a big tip-off.

[cmitch]

True Cohiba bands will not truncate any row of squares. That's a big tip-off.
There appears to be a thin black line, approx. 2 pts. in size above the top row. Again, hard to tell from the picture since it's so dark.
Standard band 'D' on this site appears to be cut off:
http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Cohiba

[markem]

There appears to be a thin black line, approx. 2 pts. in size above the top row. Again, hard to tell from the picture since it's so dark.
Standard band 'D' on this site appears to be cut off:
http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Cohiba

The row just above the cohiba logo.

[Weelok]

I looked up in a dictionary legit Cuban Cohiba labels and dmillers picture popped up. Webster is never wrong even when they are.

[dmiller662]

well guys, I wont sit a debate what I have or have not.. I know what I have, and what I have aquired... and I uhhhh aquire real... as with most forums, the particulars are not discussed or allowed to discuss.. And yep, I been through the confiscation of some too... I do aquire if that is a way of saying a politically correct a box or 2 every couple years if it works out.. And the one in particular is from 2009... And without much or any particulars, a full box takes a month+ to umm aquire lets say... Again, I wont debate, I moved on.. I do like the joking from a few of you guys and the admissions of some dipping or dunking, lol.. At any rate..... enjoy, ... I have.....