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shilala
08-15-2012, 08:55 AM
In our first year we raised 385 sticks for the troops, last year we raised 499 sticks for the troops. I figured we should do it just the same this year.

I've created a Yahoo League the same as last year. The sign-on info is the same, I simply restarted the league.
There will be only ten players.
Buy in will be six premiums ($60.00 minimum value, NC and/or CC) and a sixer (minimum) for the troops, due prior to the first week's kickoff. There is no dollar value amount for the troop smokes. Usually, quantity is better. Absolutely no dog rockets, but know that they LOVE Acids and other flavored smokes. It's a good idea to buy (a few) nice house bundles to bust up for your weekly bets, and some premiums never hurt if you want to go that way.

Payout will be 30 smokes to first place, 20 for second place, and 10 sticks for third place. I hope we set break the 500 mark this year, that'd be insane.
I can take care of receiving/sending smokes, I've done it a few times before without a hitch and I have lots of extra storage tubs.
I do need a volunteer to take care of the bets and this thread.

I will personally put together a nice fiver for the winner of the playoff loser's bracket as an incentive to keep everyone involved to the end. If anyone wants to offer any other bonus prizes, that would kick ass. Maybe something such as "fiver for highest score for week six" or something like that.
Or "beat me this week, and I'll send a fiver to the troops". We had tons of that going on last year and it made it super fun for everyone.
The key is generosity, banter, and fun. The more prizes, the more fun it'll be. The more smokes we can gather for the troops, the more fun it will be.

If you cannot stay available for the entire season, please, please don't sign up, or find a brother or sister to step into your spot. Disappearing will just hurt what we're trying to do for the troops. We sure won't crucify you because we understand things happen, we just can't afford the normal two guys who quit after two weeks. Please take this seriously and approach it with the pride and respect the troops deserve.
You do not need to be a FF Genius to join, the guys will help you learn if necessary. The main thing is the desire to have fun and lose lots of bets so the troops win some sticks.

Live Draft is set, I can't remember the date and time right now. If you can't attend, your players will be picked for you by yahoo in the order of player ranking.

Only ten guys will be playing, I'll send invites to those who sign up.
1. shilala (scott)
2. sofaman (scott)
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10.

Please give a lot of thought to the "extra" prizes. Not to belabor the point, but this league is gonna cost you some smokes if it's going to be successful, especially for the troops. So take that into consideration very seriously.
If you're a gamer, you could end up buying a number of bundles for the troops if you lose weekly bets. Or you could end up making us other knuckleheads buy lots of smokes for the troops.
It's gonna take up some of your time, and a good amount of smack talking to keep guys on their toes.
We'll use this thread as out banter thread once we get all signed up and get the league going.
Thank You for your consideration!!!

chaase321
08-15-2012, 09:10 AM
1. shilala (scott)
2. sofaman (scott)
3. chaase321 (cole)
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5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

I just missed out last year...that won't happen again!

BeerAdvocate
08-15-2012, 09:59 AM
1. shilala (scott)
2. sofaman (scott)
3. chaase321 (cole)
4. beeradvocate (travis)
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

shilala
08-15-2012, 11:52 AM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

shilala
08-15-2012, 11:58 AM
Our live online draft is set for Sat Aug 25 7:30pm EST.
There aren't many times/dates left that look good, so we'll stick with that one unless we don't have the league full.
You guys that have signed on, please go get signed in at Yahoo asap. If I haven't sent you the username/password, just pm me. :tu

JenksAnejo
08-15-2012, 12:32 PM
Easy money if shilala is in this league. Count me in! :)

chaase321
08-15-2012, 01:09 PM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7.
8.
9.
10.


Scott...PM ME THE DETAILS NOW, or i'll have to put a wager up before we even get signed in!

shilala
08-15-2012, 01:24 PM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Stephen (Stephen)
8.
9.
10.

JenksAnejo
08-15-2012, 02:20 PM
As stated above please stay active for the ENTIRE season. No matter if you are in the playoffs or not, if you just leave while the season is still going it allows teams to get easy wins. It really sucks when people drop out and takes a lot of fun out of it IMO.

shilala
08-15-2012, 02:32 PM
As stated above please stay active for the ENTIRE season. No matter if you are in the playoffs or not, if you just leave while the season is still going it allows teams to get easy wins. It really sucks when people drop out and takes a lot of fun out of it IMO.
We've dealt with that every year, Jarrod. It thoroughly pisses everyone off.
The bad part is that once a guy has quit and given away a couple freebie weeks, it's not even fair to assign his team to someone else, as the rest of the league doesn't benefit from those giveaway weeks.
League competition aside, it hoses the troops. That's completely unacceptable.

Mattso3000
08-15-2012, 02:46 PM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Stephen (Stephen)
8. Mattso3000 (Matt)
9.
10.

Mattso3000
08-15-2012, 02:48 PM
Easy money if shilala is in this league. Count me in! :)

He was in the Superbowl last year...:D

JenksAnejo
08-15-2012, 03:03 PM
Just giving him a hard time since I'm kicking his butt at the moment in fantasy baseball! :r

shilala
08-15-2012, 03:15 PM
It's a long season, beef. All I have to do is finish in the top six for a shot at the money. :D

JenksAnejo
08-16-2012, 09:04 PM
Just an idea, but what if we had a clause that holds teams responsible for staying active. Say if you go inactive for a while during the season then you are required to donate 10 extra troop smokes. Wanted to throw this out in the open to see what everyone thinks.

TheGhoulbag
08-17-2012, 08:32 PM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Stephen (Stephen)
8. Mattso3000 (Matt)
9.TheGhoulbag (Jacob)
10.

I figure Im doing pretty well in Fantasy Baseball I might as well take a whack at pwning fantasy football too.

Coach Deg
08-19-2012, 10:54 AM
Scott, I can't get logged in. Saying league not available?

shilala
08-19-2012, 03:34 PM
I'll get to you guys tomorrow and make sure everyone can get signed up. I just got back from New York and had to leave. I'll get us all caught up tomorrow. :tu

Coach Deg
08-19-2012, 03:51 PM
I'm in.

Mattso3000
08-19-2012, 03:58 PM
Just logged in to the league...nice to see that rank from last year :D

JenksAnejo
08-19-2012, 08:27 PM
NVM

shilala
08-19-2012, 10:33 PM
Just an idea, but what if we had a clause that holds teams responsible for staying active. Say if you go inactive for a while during the season then you are required to donate 10 extra troop smokes. Wanted to throw this out in the open to see what everyone thinks.
It's not a bad idea, but it'd be real hard, if not impossible, to implement. Life happens, too. We don't want to get into the business of punishing and trying to figure out why guys aren't playing. We sure don't want any hard feelings over this stuff.
I think the bottom line is that there's guys that are really hard core about Fantasy Football, football in general, and enjoy the week to week betting. Most guys aren't. We're looking for a handful of guys who live, eat, sleep, and breathe this stuff. If guys are honest with themselves when they sign on, it isn't a problem.
We haven't had trouble finding guys that fit that profile and we only need one or two more to fill out the league. It won't be a problem. If for some crazy reason it is, I'd rather go with 8 guys than 10.

I'm trying to be very proactive this year to make sure we don't have any trouble. Fortunately it's been very easy, we've got an awesome group of guys!!! :)

Mikey202
08-20-2012, 12:53 AM
If there is onemore spot, I would like to play!!!!

Mikey202
08-20-2012, 12:56 AM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Stephen (Stephen)
8. Mattso3000 (Matt)
9.TheGhoulbag (Jacob)
10. Mikey202 (Mike)

Stephen
08-20-2012, 07:27 AM
Just logged in to the league...nice to see that rank from last year :D
Didn't hurt that you were able to pick up Arian Foster off of waivers...;):D

shilala
08-20-2012, 07:43 AM
Didn't hurt that you were able to pick up Arian Foster off of waivers...;):D
There, ya finally got that out of your system. LOL

Stephen
08-20-2012, 08:25 AM
There, ya finally got that out of your system. LOL
At the time I was annoyed, sure, because that move had a butterfly effect on who made the Championship Game (you and Matt). Now? I couldn't care less. :)

shilala
08-20-2012, 11:10 AM
Now? I couldn't care less. :)
I call bullshit. I have a fiver that says you take this to the grave. :lr

jkim05
08-20-2012, 12:40 PM
Count me in.

chaase321
08-20-2012, 01:04 PM
Count me in.

This one looks full brother, but there is a different CA group that is doing a FF league here FFL (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57500) that also includes troop support

chaase321
08-20-2012, 01:13 PM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Stephen (Stephen)
8. Mattso3000 (Matt)
9.TheGhoulbag (Jacob)
10. Mikey202 (Mike)

:wo:wo we are full brothers! Hopefully this will be a great league.

So, in the spirit :hy who wants to bet me a 5'er for the troops that Yahoo! will allow me to pick ahead of them in the 1st round? (BTW...The draft order will be randomly determined approximately 30 minutes before the draft begins...from our league's homepage) therefore this has to be completed at least 1 day prior to the draft (by this Friday)

Only going to do this once...so who wants to try and draw first blood? :su

shilala
08-20-2012, 01:15 PM
Jeremy has played the last two seasons, Cole. He already has an invite.
Once I hear from two more guys I'll wrap this up. If we have to add two spots, then we will. So far we don't have to.

shilala
08-20-2012, 01:17 PM
1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Stephen (Stephen)
8. Mattso3000 (Matt)
9. jkim05 (jeremy)
10. Mikey202 (Mike) (pending)
11. if necessary
12. if necessary

chaase321
08-20-2012, 01:19 PM
Jeremy has played the last two seasons, Cole. He already has an invite.
Once I hear from two more guys I'll wrap this up. If we have to add two spots, then we will. So far we don't have to.

;s Jeremy! Sounds good, and sorry for jumping the gun. Oh yea, the bet listed above still stands.

JenksAnejo
08-20-2012, 06:05 PM
Oh yea, the bet listed above still stands.

I'm in for this brother! :tu Let's go 1st pick!! :)

Stephen
08-20-2012, 06:17 PM
I call bullshit. I have a fiver that says you take this to the grave. :lr
Let go and let God, brother. Life's too short to hold on to such trivialities. :)

chaase321
08-20-2012, 06:40 PM
I'm in for this brother! :tu Let's go 1st pick!! :)

Nice! The beginning of large troop boxes! Thanks Jarrod

JenksAnejo
08-20-2012, 09:18 PM
Man, I'm freakin pumped about this league! I love leagues that are competitive and active. In our fantasy baseball league I have 150+ transactions so I stay very active. :r

This is going to be a lot of fun and most of all a great way to support our guys over seas. Good luck to all!

chaase321
08-21-2012, 07:10 AM
In our fantasy baseball league I have 150+ transactions so I stay very active. :r

Now we know who the "Waiver Vulture" is gonna be :r:r

Couldn't agree more though, I love it when people really get into it!

jkim05
08-21-2012, 11:20 AM
;s Jeremy! Sounds good, and sorry for jumping the gun. Oh yea, the bet listed above still stands.

No prob, I actually didn't get a chance to check for a thread until the other day, and it looked full so I wasn't gonna join, but I got an invite from Scott and since it's for the troops, I figured why not.

shilala
08-23-2012, 07:31 AM
We're still looking for one more player, gentlemen. :tu

1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Stephen (Stephen)
8. Mattso3000 (Matt)
9. jkim05 (jeremy)
10.

JenksAnejo
08-23-2012, 05:53 PM
Bump!

shilala
08-24-2012, 12:32 PM
We need one more body.
Draft goes on Saturday, gentlemen. :tu

Stephen
08-24-2012, 12:37 PM
We're still looking for one more player, gentlemen. :tu

1. shilala (Scott)
2. sofaman (Scott)
3. chaase321 (Cole)
4. beeradvocate (Travis)
5. Coach Deg (Mike)
6. JenksAnejo (Jarrod)
7. Mattso3000 (Matt)
8. jkim05 (jeremy)
Gentlemen, since the draft is tomorrow and the league can't generate with an odd number of teams, I'll go ahead and remove myself from the league. Probably for the best (both personally and for the league), since I haven't had any free time whatsoever to prepare for the draft tomorrow evening. Best of luck to everyone this season and be sure to generate lots of smokes for the troops!

Mattso3000
08-24-2012, 12:37 PM
Working on Mark, but he's already in 4 leagues...

Mattso3000
08-24-2012, 12:40 PM
Gentlemen, since the draft is tomorrow and the league can't generate with an odd number of teams, I'll go ahead and remove myself from the league. Probably for the best (both personally and for the league), since I haven't had any free time whatsoever to prepare for the draft tomorrow evening. Best of luck to everyone this season and be sure to generate lots of smokes for the troops!

Draft prep is overrated, we can get one more...hang in there.

BeerAdvocate
08-24-2012, 12:40 PM
Someone has to know somebody that wants to play. It really is better if we have 10 people. There are going to be some high scoring stacked teams if we have to play with 8 people.

chaase321
08-24-2012, 01:00 PM
Gentlemen, since the draft is tomorrow and the league can't generate with an odd number of teams, I'll go ahead and remove myself from the league. Probably for the best (both personally and for the league), since I haven't had any free time whatsoever to prepare for the draft tomorrow evening. Best of luck to everyone this season and be sure to generate lots of smokes for the troops!

Ah, don't quit yet, I put a feeler out in the other CA FF league thread because that is not gaining enough interest either.

mkarnold1
08-24-2012, 01:26 PM
I'll make a go of it. There is no such thing as too much fantasy football. Unless you ask my wife. haha

Mattso3000
08-24-2012, 01:38 PM
That a boy Mark!

shilala
08-24-2012, 02:05 PM
Draft Time Changed to Sun Sep 2, 7:45pm EDT.
Some times opened up, and that helps. Make sure to pass the word around, check your computers to make sure they work with the draft software, run a couple mock drafts, etc.

chaase321
08-24-2012, 02:16 PM
Draft Time Changed to Sun Sep 2, 7:45pm EDT.
Some times opened up, and that helps. Make sure to pass the word around, check your computers to make sure they work with the draft software, run a couple mock drafts, etc.

That's awesome! I have so much going on tomorrow and this was gonna be tough to turn my attention to...Good looking on the site for openings Scott :tu

Mattso3000
08-24-2012, 02:18 PM
Draft Time Changed to Sun Sep 2, 7:45pm EDT.
Some times opened up, and that helps. Make sure to pass the word around, check your computers to make sure they work with the draft software, run a couple mock drafts, etc.

Ill be at work.

mkarnold1
08-24-2012, 02:46 PM
Draft Time Changed to Sun Sep 2, 7:45pm EDT.
Some times opened up, and that helps. Make sure to pass the word around, check your computers to make sure they work with the draft software, run a couple mock drafts, etc.

I'll be at work too. But I also work tomorrow.

JenksAnejo
08-24-2012, 05:01 PM
Stephen you back in with the date change?

shilala
08-24-2012, 06:11 PM
I don't think I'll be available for that draft time/date either. Thing is, we only have 7 guys signed up and I can't run a draft until there's 10. I'm not feeling good at all and have very limited time to chase, beg and cheerlead.

I'll pm Mark right now so he'll send me his email address and I'll get an invite sent to him.
Then if I can get Stepehen and Jeremy to sign up, we'll be all set.

Jarrod has volunteered to take care of the thread here during the season. I'll take care of the gathering of cigars and sending prizes, unless it'll make it easier for Jarrod to keep track by sending stuff to him and having him forward troop stuff to me later.

Malakai
08-24-2012, 06:20 PM
Im in if there is still room.

JenksAnejo
08-24-2012, 06:34 PM
Scott I'm down for whatever makes it easiest on you man. I know you got a ton of other stuff going on as well.

Mattso3000
08-24-2012, 08:41 PM
I can probably be on for at least a few rounds at work. The boss is on vaca next week...

shilala
08-25-2012, 07:00 AM
I sent Mark his invite.
Now we just need to somehow get Jeremy and Stephen to sign up.

dwoodward
08-25-2012, 07:06 AM
How does this work exactly? I am still not sure how the betting and losing of sticks works.

If it matters, i've never played Fantasy football.

Coach Deg
08-25-2012, 09:01 AM
This is going to be confusing!!!!!! My money league draft is at 7 next Sunday!!!!!! I'm still in.

Stephen
08-27-2012, 07:02 AM
Stephen you back in with the date change?
Tried signing back on but it wouldn't let me in.:gary

chaase321
08-27-2012, 07:08 AM
Scott I'm down for whatever makes it easiest on you man. I know you got a ton of other stuff going on as well.

So did you gents figure out who will be collecting the sticks? I have my buy in and the troops amount ready to be sent to whoever.

Jarrod, thanks for stepping up and taking over the thread for Scott!

Stephen
08-27-2012, 09:55 AM
Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in!
http://cinemafanatic.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/godfather_part_3.jpg

shilala
08-27-2012, 01:28 PM
Wow, everyone is signed up. Freakin fabulous, gentlemen!!! :tu
Cole, I don't know what we're gonna do about gathering sticks yet, but in all likelihood I'll do it. It just makes sense.

BeerAdvocate
08-27-2012, 01:36 PM
I would like to offer some pre draft advice just in case we have any new players.

A good kicker can make or break your season, so make sure you draft the best available with your 1st pick, and a good back up kicker with your 2nd pick, just in case your 1st one gets injured.

If you would like to donate a 5pk to the troops for this great advice, please feel free!
Thank you

chaase321
08-27-2012, 01:45 PM
Wow, everyone is signed up. Freakin fabulous, gentlemen!!! :tu
Cole, I don't know what we're gonna do about gathering sticks yet, but in all likelihood I'll do it. It just makes sense.

:noon:noon

I would like to offer some pre draft advice just in case we have any new players.

A good kicker can make or break your season, so make sure you draft the best available with your 1st pick, and a good back up kicker with your 2nd pick, just in case your 1st one gets injured.

If you would like to donate a 5pk to the troops for this great advice, please feel free!
Thank you

:sl You know what's funny, is we actually pulled one of these over on a person playing FF for the first time...he drafted the Bears D in the 2nd round in our draft in 2009...all in all he had a 6-7 season, so not horrible :r

shilala
08-27-2012, 01:50 PM
Solid advice, Travis!!! :tu
It'd be a good idea to take a long look at Billy Cundiff, he's going to be well rested once the season starts.
My wife employed this strategy last year and Mason Crosby was the #1 pick in our neighborhood Pink Flamingo League. We just discussed it at draft on Saturday (for another league). She was really happy when I gave her updates letting her know Mason was still available.

(In her defense, she wasn't familiar with Yahoo's draft, it was just a mistake. A really, really fun mistake. :))

Mattso3000
08-27-2012, 02:16 PM
Update, just realized Sun is our holiday at work...:D I;ll take Dan Baily with my first pick.

TJarv
08-27-2012, 06:22 PM
Anymore room?

Stephen
08-27-2012, 08:10 PM
Update, just realized Sun is our holiday at work...:D I;ll take Dan Baily with my first pick.
If I was POTUS for a day my one and only act would be to have Dan Bailey waterboarded. :tu :r

Mattso3000
08-28-2012, 04:43 PM
If I was POTUS for a day my one and only act would be to have Dan Bailey waterboarded. :tu :r

:r:r

TJarv
08-28-2012, 06:02 PM
Are you guys full?

Mattso3000
08-28-2012, 06:18 PM
Are you guys full?

Just checked the site, Tony. Looks like it's full.

TJarv
08-28-2012, 06:20 PM
Just checked the site, Tony. Looks like it's full.

ok thanks Matt

BeerAdvocate
09-02-2012, 06:56 PM
Good draft everyone!
Who are we sending the cigars too?

Stephen
09-03-2012, 06:57 AM
Good draft everyone!
For some of us. Others waited way too long to draft a quarterback.:gary
Who are we sending the cigars too?

Cole, I don't know what we're gonna do about gathering sticks yet, but in all likelihood I'll do it. It just makes sense.
I was working under this assumption and that Jarrod was going to keep track of all bets, etc.

shilala
09-03-2012, 08:23 AM
Stephen is correct. You guys can send the smokes to me and I'll keep track of that end. Jarrod is going to keep track of bets and keep a running post going here.

mkarnold1
09-04-2012, 09:37 AM
It looks like I got a pretty good squad via autodraft. At least I hope it was autodraft and not Mattso3000 as I had a backup QB and TE (worthless, wasted picks IMO). I solved that problem by grabbing the top RB's on the ww. Evan Royster was still available and he was just named the #1 RB on the depth chart, of course with a Shanahan run team that could mean he gets 0 carries. Good luck guys, can't wait for this football season to get underway!

chaase321
09-04-2012, 09:46 AM
It looks like I got a pretty good squad via autodraft. At least I hope it was autodraft and not Mattso3000 as I had a backup QB and TE (worthless, wasted picks IMO). I solved that problem by grabbing the top RB's on the ww. Evan Royster was still available and he was just named the #1 RB on the depth chart, of course with a Shanahan run team that could mean he gets 0 carries. Good luck guys, can't wait for this football season to get underway!

We will see this week! :su:su

mkarnold1
09-04-2012, 10:20 AM
Want to put your stogies where your smileys are? Troop 5er on the line?

chaase321
09-04-2012, 10:31 AM
Want to put your stogies where your smileys are? Troop 5er on the line?

Hmm...I'm already down a 5'er...might as well make someone else pay an extra 5'er into the troops as well :sl since it is a sure win and all for me!

I'm in!

Scott..my buy in is flying today
9405 5036 9930 0124 8996 57

Should be there by Thursday. :tu

mkarnold1
09-04-2012, 11:16 AM
Hmm...I'm already down a 5'er...might as well make someone else pay an extra 5'er into the troops as well :sl since it is a sure win and all for me!

I'm in!



Sure win huh? I love overconfidence, it makes the gloating that much more fun after I :gary

chaase321
09-04-2012, 11:25 AM
Sure win huh? I love overconfidence, it makes the gloating that much more fun after I :gary

Actually, I think I usually over analyze my draft, and end up getting beat by autodrafters...maybe I should take the hint...:D

Come on now, where are the rest of the trash talkers of the league :sh:su:sl

Coach Deg
09-04-2012, 11:27 AM
I will put up a fiver to anyone, that I will have a higher score this week!!!!

mkarnold1
09-04-2012, 11:34 AM
I usually end up overanalyzing too, I was just out in the woods camping with no access to internet this weekend. But lots of access to stogies and beer!

OLS
09-04-2012, 11:35 AM
MAN this would be so great, but I am boycotting the league in 2012....raise a bunch of cigars and have fun.

mkarnold1
09-04-2012, 12:28 PM
I will put up a fiver to anyone, that I will have a higher score this week!!!!

I'll take your action too, Coach. -(P

Mattso3000
09-04-2012, 02:03 PM
I'll take that action as well Coach. Better load up on the troop sticks right off the bat.

JenksAnejo
09-04-2012, 05:15 PM
YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Stephen
09-05-2012, 07:54 AM
I will put up a fiver to anyone, that I will have a higher score this week!!!!
Well since we're playing each other this week, I'd be yellow if I walked away from this bet. You're on, vaquero. -(P

shilala
09-05-2012, 05:58 PM
Well, Gentlemen, here we go!!! :tu
Best of Luck to all of you, and Thank You for signing on for yet another year. We have an awesome group, it's going to be some serious fun. :)
God Bless!!! :tu

chaase321
09-05-2012, 07:56 PM
Yes! Finally starting...sorry y'all, it's gonna suck when I am standing on top at the end of the year!

shilala
09-07-2012, 12:33 PM
I had given some thought to a "cigar for game day" pass when I was kicking this thing off, but I didn't have time to put it together before the season got going.
I'd be more than willing to seed the pass with a whole sh1t-tonne of smokes and get it on it's way if any of you guys are interested.
Simple rules, put a little more than you take, get it to the next guy immediately, no dicking around.
The whole point of this is for an awesome box of smokes to arrive at your house in time for you to pick some excellent smokes for the weekend. Think "B&M in a Box."

I will send the smokes in a travel humi in a box. It will be 100% first class. At the year's end I will pull my smokes (or not) and either leave the extra smokes to seed next year's pass or donate them to the troops.

I just want to gauge interest right now. I will lay out my ideas and rules more carefully if we have enough interest. I'd like to kick this off ASAP. I'm away from home right now and working (painfully) on an ipad at a coffee shop, so if someone would please pm our guys about this, I'd very much appreciate it. The time saved would likely allow me to get this down the road this week provided we get enough interest.

1. Shilala
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chaase321
09-07-2012, 01:01 PM
Got it taken care of Scott!

Coach Deg
09-07-2012, 01:13 PM
So, only 3 takers on my bet!!!!! Guys these are for the troops!!!! I know my team is good, but it's only week 1.


Scott I'm in on the pass.

shilala
09-07-2012, 01:17 PM
I had given some thought to a "cigar for game day" pass when I was kicking this thing off, but I didn't have time to put it together before the season got going.
I'd be more than willing to seed the pass with a whole sh1t-tonne of smokes and get it on it's way if any of you guys are interested.
Simple rules, put a little more than you take, get it to the next guy immediately, no dicking around.
The whole point of this is for an awesome box of smokes to arrive at your house in time for you to pick some excellent smokes for the weekend. Think "B&M in a Box."

I will send the smokes in a travel humi in a box. It will be 100% first class. At the year's end I will pull my smokes (or not) and either leave the extra smokes to seed next year's pass or donate them to the troops.

I just want to gauge interest right now. I will lay out my ideas and rules more carefully if we have enough interest. I'd like to kick this off ASAP. I'm away from home right now and working (painfully) on an ipad at a coffee shop, so if someone would please pm our guys about this, I'd very much appreciate it. The time saved would likely allow me to get this down the road this week provided we get enough interest.

1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
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sofaman
09-08-2012, 11:07 AM
So, only 3 takers on my bet!!!!! Guys these are for the troops!!!! I know my team is good, but it's only week 1.


Scott I'm in on the pass.

I will take that bet for a 5er of troop sticks:tu

Stephen
09-09-2012, 07:46 AM
1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
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Why not? Might be able to snag a smoke or two that I've been curious about but haven't gotten my hands on yet.

mkarnold1
09-09-2012, 10:11 AM
1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
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9.
10.

I'm in on the pass, and so is my bro. He's going to TX until next weekend to hang with our older bro, but I know he would want in on this.

Coach Deg
09-09-2012, 10:23 AM
Ok I have 4 takers on my bet! Good Luck guys!!!

shilala
09-10-2012, 11:58 AM
1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
7. Jarrod
8. Sofaman
9. Jeremy
10.

I think this is right on the ball. I'll try to get it put together asap.

BeerAdvocate
09-10-2012, 12:06 PM
1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
7. Jarrod
8. Sofaman
9. Jeremy
10. BeerAdvocate

chaase321
09-10-2012, 12:10 PM
1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
7. Jarrod
8. Sofaman
9. Jeremy
10. BeerAdvocate

Looks like we are golden :D
Hope things are good with you Scott, and you are able to get the rest of the details out. This is a pretty good deal. :=:

Mattso3000
09-10-2012, 12:16 PM
1. Shilala
2. Coach
3. Cole
4. Stephen
5. mkarnold1
6. Mattso3000
7. Jarrod
8. Sofaman
9. Jeremy
10. BeerAdvocate

Nice. Everyone is in.

Mattso3000
09-10-2012, 12:43 PM
Ok I have 4 takers on my bet! Good Luck guys!!!

Looks like I got ya, Mike.:D:banger

Coach Deg
09-10-2012, 05:39 PM
Looks like I got ya, Mike.:D:banger

Haven't check fantasy yet today. But heck the troops win!!!

Coach Deg
09-12-2012, 06:41 PM
Ok Week 1 Bet- I lost a troop 5 to Matt, and Stephen, Sofaman, and Mark lost a troop 5er to me.

Mattso3000
09-12-2012, 06:46 PM
Ok Week 1 Bet- I lost a troop 5 to Matt, and Stephen, Sofaman, and Mark lost a troop 5er to me.

:banger:banger

JenksAnejo
09-12-2012, 08:07 PM
YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Week 1

Coach Deg owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Mattso3000)
Stephen owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Stephen)
Sofa man owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Sofaman)
Mkarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. MKArnold1)

JenksAnejo
09-12-2012, 08:09 PM
Anyone want to go against me on any of these spreads for a troop 5er?

9/13 8:10 ET At Green Bay -5.5 Chicago
9/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants -7.5 Tampa Bay
9/16 1:00 ET At New England -13.5 Arizona

chaase321
09-12-2012, 08:29 PM
Want to put your stogies where your smileys are? Troop 5er on the line?

Hmm...I'm already down a 5'er...might as well make someone else pay an extra 5'er into the troops as well :sl since it is a sure win and all for me!

I'm in!



Don't forget this one too jarrod :tu

Mkarnold down another 5er for the troops

Mattso3000
09-12-2012, 08:42 PM
Anyone want to go against me on any of these spreads for a troop 5er?

9/13 8:10 ET At Green Bay -5.5 Chicago
9/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants -7.5 Tampa Bay
9/16 1:00 ET At New England -13.5 Arizona

I'll take the Pack.

JenksAnejo
09-13-2012, 07:30 AM
Alright Matt, it's a deal buddy.

shilala
09-13-2012, 04:59 PM
I see everyone is in on the pass, that's awesome!!! :tu
I dug out a brand new travel humi and a box. I will go pack it up and get it ready to go. Obviously it won't make it to anyone for this weekend, but I'll get it out asap.
Will everyone please send me their address, and I'll put together a list I can forward to everyone involved.
I'll work on all this during the game tonight and have everything ready to go in the morning.
Thanks, guys!!! :tu

shilala
09-14-2012, 08:58 AM
Hi Guys,
Please look over these pass rules. I banged them out pretty quickly and I need your help to finish them up, adjust them, add or subtract from them, whatever. Please post any changes you'd like in red. The whole thing could use an edit, as well.
I will post the list of cigars right after the rules.
I'm going to send the box to Stephen today, we'll get the rules hammered out and go from there while the box is on the way.
Thanks!!! :tu

shilala
09-14-2012, 08:59 AM
Pass Rules

1.) This is probably the biggest and most important, hence the #1 position. You MUST purchase insurance when shipping the pass box. The box is to go between recipients via Priority Mail, Insured for $499. At whatever point the value of the cigars goes over that, please let everyone know and we'll raise it to $599 and so on.
2.)So far as Puts and Takes go...
If you take a cc, put a cc. If you take an nc, put an nc. I'm not absolute on this as some guys may not have one type of smoke or another, but it is the general rule and should see very few exceptions if any.
This is a top-notch pass as you'll see by the list. Please respect that, and replace cigars with premium cigars. That's not to say there's not a place for lower notch cigars, just please, not in this pass.
Puts and takes are to be like value, and each member agrees to add a couple extra cigars to seed this pass for years to come.
Please post your puts and takes in the Fantasy Football thread so a couple guys can okay them before you ship to the next participant. If you aren't sure about your puts and takes and want to speak to someone privately before posting in the thread, just drop someone a pm.
3.) At any point, if you have a question and cannot reach me, Stephen or Scott's (Sofaman) word are as good as mine.
4.) Once the package is received, please try to get it out the next day. This is a very tight schedule pass being it's running weekend to weekend.
5.) Once mailed, please post the shipped date & delivery confirmation number if shipped USPS, or tracking number if shipped via courier (ie: UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc) for all to see.
6.) If at some point this pass overfills the box, let me know and we'll figure out what to do.
7.) At season's end, I'll retrieve my cigars that I used to seed the pass and I'll leave what's left. Next season I will use those extras we gain to seed the new pass, and if necessary I will add more to make it more interesting.
8.) In the box will be single finger bags. Please make sure puts are placed in finger bags and marked. There are also other supplies in there, please use them as necessary.
9.) There will be a flash drive in the supplies envelope. It will have the participant's addresses, pass rules, and list of cigars on it. Please update the cigar list with your puts and takes as we go. If you'd like to update the "what's in the box list", that'd be great. If not, please just list your puts and takes and say who you were. Someone down the line may adjust the list. Please DO NOT erase any information on the list. Just add to the bottom of the list.

shilala
09-14-2012, 09:02 AM
51 Smokes in the pass box...
CC
2-99 La Flor Del Cano Preferido
02 La Gloria Cubana #1 Medaille de Or
2-00 Vegueros Seaone
2-10 Quintero Brevas
2-10 JLP Cremas
11 HDM Hoyo Du Gourmet
11 RASS
11 San Cristobal El Principe
10 Vegas Robaina Famosos
10 Rafael Gonzales Panatelas Extras
2-02 La Gloria Cubana Medaille de Or #3
09 H.Upmann Mag 46
10 Fonseca Cadetes
11 H. Upmann pc
09 H. Upmann Mag 50
10 Por Larranaga pc
10 Juan Lopez Seleccion #1
11 Trini Reyes
09 Bolivar Gold Medal
11 Cohiba Panatelas
10 Por Larranaga Coronas Junior
06 Punch Margarita
06 H. Upmann
2-'11 RASSC
09 Punch pc
09 Cuaba Distinguidos
10 Monte 4
11 Boli pc
10 El Rey Del Mundo pc
10 Cohiba Especiales
NC
Short Story Maduro
Oliva V #4
Oliva Blue Ovation (paper)
06 Anejo
04 Oliva Bold O (red paper)
Skull and Bones
08 AVO #9 Maduro
09 Litto Gomez Oscuro Americano
Miraflor Lancero
09 DPG JJ Maduro
10 LFD Airbender
Uzi Weighs A Ton
08 Old Henry Maduro
Illusione Epernay

chaase321
09-14-2012, 10:02 AM
Looks like a hell of a list Scott!

The rules look well thought out as well. The list of CC's if fantastic :tu

Do you know the order of shipping yet?

chaase321
09-14-2012, 10:03 AM
YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Week 1

Coach Deg owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Mattso3000)
Stephen owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Stephen)
Sofa man owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Sofaman)
Mkarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. MKArnold1)

Anyone want to go against me on any of these spreads for a troop 5er?

9/13 8:10 ET At Green Bay -5.5 Chicago
9/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants -7.5 Tampa Bay
9/16 1:00 ET At New England -13.5 Arizona

I'll take New England to score more than 13.5 more than Arizona. :tu

Don't forget this one too jarrod :tu

Mkarnold down another 5er for the troops

Also, sorry to bring this us again, but did you make sure to get Mark's 5'er he owes on the list? He played me in the first week for a troop 5er

Stephen
09-14-2012, 10:20 AM
Just an observation, but with the contents of the pass leaning considerably ISOM, it'll be difficult for some of us simpletons (this guy) to fully enjoy and participate if a strict nc for nc and cc for cc is adhered to. If maybe the pass was initially more balanced or the restrictions lessened (while leeway is assumed it is also currently restricted) it wouldn't be an issue. Ultimately this is Scott's pass and he's generous enough to seed it with his personal stock, so he can decide how he sees fit.

In short, I just don't want to ruffle any feathers. :D

shilala
09-14-2012, 10:25 AM
Looks like a hell of a list Scott!

The rules look well thought out as well. The list of CC's if fantastic :tu

Do you know the order of shipping yet?
I'm working on that now, Cole. It's going to Stephen today because he's ready.
I need some more input on the rules. I was texting Stephen and he mentioned the lopsided cc to nc ratio in the box, and that we'll probably need to relax the "cc for cc, nc for nc" rule. I agree with him, it's just a very difficult thing to do. We need ideas on how to implement that fairly.
I also need to know "how many smokes can a guy put/take?" We have nothing in there about that.

Mainly, you guys need to know this is OUR pass. I'm just looking over it to get it started. Yeah, I have some smokes invested, but that really means nothing. Shortly this will be everyone's smokes and I won't have any more in it than anyone else, and someone else will likely take care of the pass and need to adjust the rules to suit. Someone else will also have to be the final word on puts and takes and what goes on with the pass.

I just wanted to add another component to make this the most awesome FF League ever, ya know?
So I NEED you guys to speak up on the rules.

Stephen
09-14-2012, 10:29 AM
Looks like a hell of a list Scott!
Hell, that's just what he keeps in his sock drawer.:r

shilala
09-14-2012, 10:30 AM
Just an observation, but with the contents of the pass leaning considerably ISOM, it'll be difficult for some of us simpletons (this guy) to fully enjoy and participate if a strict nc for nc and cc for cc is adhered to. If maybe the pass was initially more balanced or the restrictions lessened (while leeway is assumed it is also currently restricted) it wouldn't be an issue. Ultimately this is Scott's pass and he's generous enough to seed it with his personal stock, so he can decide how he sees fit.

In short, I just don't want to ruffle any feathers. :D
I was writing while you were. :)
I agree with you completely. We just need a way to institute your idea and put it in rule form.
It's not my pass, as I mentioned. It's OUR pass. I need you all to speak up as such.
If it helps, look at the cigar pass subforum for rules. I was looking there, but it was all kinda greek to me. I'm changing some meds again and my head is like soup. I'm real pleased I've done as well as I have. :)

Stephen
09-14-2012, 11:27 AM
Question...

Are we getting off the merry-go-round after one trip, or are we going to continuously cycle it throughout the season (or until it makes it through everyone X amount of times)?

shilala
09-14-2012, 11:38 AM
Question...

Are we getting off the merry-go-round after one trip, or are we going to continuously cycle it throughout the season (or until it makes it through everyone X amount of times)?
I'd like to move it as fast as possible and get it through as many hands as possible until the season is over.
If guys would like to continue until Spring, I see no problem with that, either. We should definately take a break Start back up August something.
We can kick it back in during pre-season, or as soon as we all come together and get the league going for next year?

It's easy enough to track who had it last (from year to year), it'll all be on the flash drive I put in the box.

shilala
09-14-2012, 01:26 PM
FF Pass Box went out to Stephen today. The mail lady should grab it any moment now.
DC#9406203699300022068627
Enjoy, my brother!!! :tu
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad96/scottshilala/D862C9D7-7D97-4911-A5B1-C4CBA3598109-1489-000002B3CD2AA381.jpg

chaase321
09-14-2012, 02:07 PM
That's a large box!

Give me some time to think about your proposed questions Scott and I'll get back with you all

jkim05
09-14-2012, 03:55 PM
I'm working on that now, Cole. It's going to Stephen today because he's ready.
I need some more input on the rules. I was texting Stephen and he mentioned the lopsided cc to nc ratio in the box, and that we'll probably need to relax the "cc for cc, nc for nc" rule. I agree with him, it's just a very difficult thing to do. We need ideas on how to implement that fairly.
I also need to know "how many smokes can a guy put/take?" We have nothing in there about that.

Mainly, you guys need to know this is OUR pass. I'm just looking over it to get it started. Yeah, I have some smokes invested, but that really means nothing. Shortly this will be everyone's smokes and I won't have any more in it than anyone else, and someone else will likely take care of the pass and need to adjust the rules to suit. Someone else will also have to be the final word on puts and takes and what goes on with the pass.

I just wanted to add another component to make this the most awesome FF League ever, ya know?
So I NEED you guys to speak up on the rules.

I'm not opposed to relaxing the CC/NC rule, but in my experience, what I've seen happen is that eventually the pass gets stripped of CC's and left with only NC's because people aren't taking NC's and leaving CC's. Personally I vote for keeping the rule because I don't really have any NC's, and I'm not really interested in picking any up. Not trying to exclude anyone, but I wouldn't be able to play on the NC side, so it kinda works both ways.

As for the number of cigars that can be swapped, I don't care if there's no limit.

Mattso3000
09-14-2012, 04:08 PM
After it gets through MN there should be plenty of NC love in there. I think we'll be okay:D

shilala
09-14-2012, 04:55 PM
I'm not opposed to relaxing the CC/NC rule, but in my experience, what I've seen happen is that eventually the pass gets stripped of CC's and left with only NC's because people aren't taking NC's and leaving CC's. Personally I vote for keeping the rule because I don't really have any NC's, and I'm not really interested in picking any up. Not trying to exclude anyone, but I wouldn't be able to play on the NC side, so it kinda works both ways.

As for the number of cigars that can be swapped, I don't care if there's no limit.
I'm in the same boat as you, Jeremy. I'm going to post a new version of the pass rules, and I'll add something to protect the ratio of cc's to nc's. I'm also going to send a quick pm to everyone, as there's an obvious way to solve the "some folks don't have cc's" issue.

shilala
09-14-2012, 05:14 PM
Oh, Jeremy, I forgot something in my last post...
I put the "how many smokes can you take" at five for now until we get a good sense of how things are working, then we can raise the limit, okay?

Okay, guys. Here's the latest draft. It's a bit lawyerish, and it's been pretty tough for me to get ironed out.
Please continue to make suggestions and I will continue to iron this out to a point where it seems sensible and usable.

I know it's a lot, and at first glance may seem long-winded and ridiculous. This set of rules is going to serve us for a lot of years, and is next to nothing compared to what you'll see in many long-standing FF Leagues. These rules will protect our pass and see to it that it lasts safely for years to come.

We'll also need to iron out FF League rules as time allows. You'd be surprised how much a little rule book helps.
I may use one I have here from my wife's FF league and amend it to our purposes. Then maybe we can schedule a couple virtual herfs and have some smokes and work on it all together.

Anyways, that's what my thoughts are. Please add your own, and please do not be shy. Once again, this is OUR pass and OUR league. We need to work together to keep it as simple as possible, but cover as much as we can to keep it rolling. :tu

shilala
09-14-2012, 05:14 PM
Pass Rules

1.) This is probably the biggest and most important, hence the #1 position. You MUST purchase insurance when shipping the pass box. The box is to go between recipients via Priority Mail, Insured for $399. At whatever point the value of the cigars goes over that, please let everyone know and we'll raise it to $499 and so on.
It costs roughly $18.00-$20.00 to ship the box, insured. If anything ever happens that causes someone to find themselves short shipping fees on their week, please let me or one of the group know. I'll be more than happy to cover you.

2.)So far as Puts and Takes go...
a.) If you take a cc, put a cc. If you take an nc, put an nc.
b.)If a pass participant wishes to forego the nc/nc, cc/cc rule, they may do so, in either direction, but it will require of them a premium. Their replacement stick in a cc for nc or nc for cc trade must be a cigar valued significantly higher than that which he is taking. Another option is that the replacement cigar be a Rare/HTF stick, widely considered more valuable than the take. The only instance where a participant may forego the nc/nc, cc/cc rule is if/when there exist more cc's than nc's. A participant may forgo the nc/nc rule at any time, replacing cc's with nc's.
c.)The goal here is for us to create and carry on an absolutely top-notch pass. Please respect that, and replace cigars with premium cigars. That's not to say there's not a place in our lives for lower notch cigars, just please, not in this pass. It's special, and when it arrives on your weekend, it should completely blow your mind.
d.)In the spirit of part c, it will be considered perfectly acceptable for someone to take more than one cigar to make up the value of their put.
e.)As with all passes, the value of your puts should always be greater than that of your takes.
f.)Every time a member receives the pass box, he agrees to add a couple extra premium cigars to seed this pass for years to come.
g.)Please post your puts and takes in the Fantasy Football thread so a couple guys can okay them before you ship to the next participant. If you aren't sure about your puts and takes and want to speak to someone privately before posting in the thread, just drop someone a pm. If you have time for pics, that'd be great. Being as time is of the essence and our schedule is so aggressive, pics are NOT mandated. You can always take them and add them later if you like.
h.) You can take up to six cigars. If you have a situation where a take equals 2 cigars, you may take more, but your puts should not exceed 5 cigars. That does not include the extra cigars you've agreed to add to the pass in part h.

3.) If at any point you have a question concerning this pass or its rules and cannot reach me, Please contact and consider Stephen or Scott's (Sofaman) word as good (if not better) than my own. Either one has my blessing to act in my place in these matters at any time.

4.) Once the package is received, you MUST get it on it's way the same or next day. This is a very tight schedule pass being it's running weekend to weekend. We will not hunt you down and torture you for non-compliance, but know you're letting down a good brother who's really excited.

5.) If your schedule isn't going to work and you're afraid you won't be able to get the pass out immediately when you receive it, just let the guy ahead of you know and he can pass you up. Then let me know and we'll fit you back in when it works and I'll get a new schedule to all the guys. Doing this is not a problem at all, it's my pleasure. If we have to change your spot 20 times, still not a problem. Letting down your brothers is.

6.) Once mailed, please post the shipped date (if it's different from your posting date) & delivery confirmation or tracking number. Let us know what courier you used if not USPS, and DO NOT FORGET INSURANCE!!!

7.) If at some point this pass overfills the box, let me know and we'll figure out what to do.

8.) At season's end, I'll retrieve my cigars that I used to seed the pass and I'll leave what's left. Next season I will use those extras we gain to seed the new pass, and if necessary I will add more to make it more interesting.

9.) In the box will be single finger bags. Please make sure all cigars are placed in finger bags and marked. There are also other supplies in there, please use them as necessary.

10.) There will be a flash drive in the supplies bag. It will have notepad files on it containing the participant's addresses, pass rules, and list of cigars. Please update the cigar list with your puts and takes as we go. If you'd like to update the "what's in the box list", that'd be great. If not, please just list your puts and takes, add the date, and say who you are. It's of HUGE importance to track the puts, takes and cigars that are in the box. Please do everything you can to keep excellent records. Please DO NOT erase any information on the list. Just add to the bottom of the list. If you'f like to alphabetize, upgrade, update, or otherwise better the lists, please feel free to do so.
I chose Notepad format because everyone has it. If someone would like to change our record keeping to some other open source format, feel free, but please add the program to the flash drive. Once again, DO NOT erase any of the prior information. Simply add your new format.

11.) The pass will run until March 31, or whatever time makes itself obvious as suitable. It will begin as soon as pre-season starts, or as soon as we can get the guys together and get next year's league formed.

Stephen
09-15-2012, 04:43 AM
I'm not opposed to relaxing the CC/NC rule, but in my experience, what I've seen happen is that eventually the pass gets stripped of CC's and left with only NC's because people aren't taking NC's and leaving CC's. Personally I vote for keeping the rule because I don't really have any NC's, and I'm not really interested in picking any up. Not trying to exclude anyone, but I wouldn't be able to play on the NC side, so it kinda works both ways.
Which was a concern of mine as well, and something I didn't wish to see happen (and shared as much with Scott). As Matt alluded to and I suspected would happen, NC's would make it into the pass in spades as it made its way around to everyone a time or two, making the imbalance a virtual non-factor.

Stephen
09-15-2012, 04:55 AM
2.)So far as Puts and Takes go...
c.)The goal here is for us to create and carry on an absolutely top-notch pass. Please respect that, and replace cigars with premium cigars. That's not to say there's not a place in our lives for lower notch cigars, just please, not in this pass. It's special, and when it arrives on your weekend, it should completely blow your mind.
For sake of clarification, what are we setting the basement at? $7.00-8.00? That's about what I'm gauging from your initial launch. If not, feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.

Also, at some point are you going to allow a 2 for 1 exchange as long as the minimum dollar amount is met? Say (rough example) that there's a stick in the pass which the group agrees is worth $25.00. Are you going to allow that stick to be bought with two $15.00 sticks?

JenksAnejo
09-15-2012, 04:37 PM
YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Week 1

Coach Deg owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Mattso3000)
Stephen owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Stephen)
Sofa man owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Sofaman)
Mkarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. MKArnold1)
MKarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (MKArnold1 vs. Chaase321)

Week 2

JenksAnejo owe's 5 troop sticks. (JenksAnejo vs. Mattso3000)


Chase I actually had NE picked to cover the spread against Arizona :)

shilala
09-15-2012, 11:23 PM
For sake of clarification, what are we setting the basement at? $7.00-8.00? That's about what I'm gauging from your initial launch. If not, feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.

Also, at some point are you going to allow a 2 for 1 exchange as long as the minimum dollar amount is met? Say (rough example) that there's a stick in the pass which the group agrees is worth $25.00. Are you going to allow that stick to be bought with two $15.00 sticks?
I thought I had the answer to that in the rules, but I somehow managed to edit it out. In all passes, a put needs to equal the value of a take. If a stick is valued at 25 bucks, a guy needs to replace it with one of equal or reasonably close value. So if you took a couple $25 sticks, replacing with a $20 and $30 would be reasonable, but replacing with a $10 and $15 would not. That's only because it'd leave the pass short a very premium stick, ya know? That's why puts and takes generally need to be of equal value, once again, within reason, and only to protect the integrity of the pass.

That question is covered in 2d, in the opposite direction. A guy is welcome to take a $10 and $15 stick and replace it with a $25 stick, as that brings nicer and less common premiums to the pass, and that just makes it all that much gooder. :D

How bout you amend the rules and get that in there somewhere, will ya please?

Also, if anyone would like to work on the flow, order, and wording of the mess I've made into a more readable and compact set of rules, that'd be simply awesome.
Not that anyone has read this far into my post, but once again, please, please, please speak freely on this. I really need everyone's help on this, and I need it bad. It's been a royal pain to get these rules together, I haven't had time to steal ideas from other passes, it's been way too busy here and it's not likely to let up the rest of the week.
Thank you IMMENSELY to those of you who have thrown your ideas out there. I hope I've covered them satisfactorally, every one has been excellent!!! :tu

chaase321
09-16-2012, 07:27 AM
Scott, everything looks good to me, or at least nothing looks too out of the ordinary for the rules. I'm gonna need to find some more good sticks!

So, now that you have changed the rules more have any different sticks been added/replaced, or still the same setup?

Jarrod, sorry, misread the bet. I'm out on NE NOT covering the spread.

Is anyone else making bets this weekend?

JenksAnejo
09-16-2012, 08:18 AM
Scott, I think everything looks fantastic man. I've always wanted to be in a super premium pass! This is going to be awesome. :tu

shilala
09-16-2012, 07:57 PM
I just realized I ran right around Stephen's question about basement price on the pass put sticks. I'd think $8.00 would be good.
As mentioned earlier, multiple sticks can be taken to make things work out.
I didn't pay any attention at all to the value of the seed sticks, but I do believe the great portion, or at least the average price of the seed sticks should be around that $8.00 limit. (That was my guess, it's why I insured at $400.)
Admittedly, I completely suck at cigar prices, but I've got a pretty good feel for most.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, and apple an on the collective knowledge of our group. That's what I do. :)

Cole, the box is already shipped as I mentioned earlier. My above comments should serve as a solution to any concern. :tu

Stephen
09-17-2012, 09:55 AM
FF Pass Box went out to Stephen today. The mail lady should grab it any moment now.
DC#9406203699300022068627
Enjoy, my brother!!! :tu
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad96/scottshilala/D862C9D7-7D97-4911-A5B1-C4CBA3598109-1489-000002B3CD2AA381.jpg
Out for delivery! :noon

Looks like I'll get to play cigars this evening.:tu

Stephen
09-18-2012, 06:21 PM
Had to retrieve the package from the Post Office today. Good times.

Takes:
11 Trini Reyes
09 Bolivar Gold Medal
06 Anejo
09 Litto Gomez Oscuro Americano
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/8001463822_730675c15d_c.jpg

Puts:
08 PSD4
08 Partagas 898
Ashton Heritage Puro Sol Robusto
Arturo Fuente Don Carlos Double Robusto (X2; no newer than 2010)
Alec Bradley Tempus Imperator
Oliva Master Blends 3 Torpedo
Berger & Argenti Entubar Torpedo
11 Tatuaje Avion
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/8001464643_742f4b97d6_z.jpg

If there isn't any objections I'll get this out to the land of 10,000 lakes hopefully tomorrow, but no later than Thursday. :tu

JenksAnejo
09-18-2012, 06:31 PM
Looks pretty solid Stephen! :tu

Mattso3000
09-18-2012, 06:40 PM
We're going to need a bigger box. :D

chaase321
09-19-2012, 08:41 AM
Ok, we gotta get this back on track for bets and get more sticks together for the troops...in that spirit, I am making a bet against the field, and I win nothing with only the possibility of losing more sticks to the troops, I will put up this bet:

I bet that their will be NO UNDEFEATED TEAMS AFTER THIS WEEK!!

Bet #1
If either 1 or both teams remain undefeated I owe 5 troop sticks

Bet #2
Also, in that spirit, since I play one of the undefeated teams (Sofaman), I am putting a bet out to Scott (Sofaman) that I beat him this week. Scott, I'm calling you out, so if you win you can choose either a 5'er of sticks to yourself or the troops. If I win, I will choose that you send a 5'er to the troops.

Therefore, I could be losing 10 total sticks this week if all goes to the wayside.

Anyone else want to get in on the Bet #1 with me this week?

Not to put the pressure on, but at one point last year the guys were betting over 30 sticks a week for the troops...just saying.

Stephen
09-19-2012, 12:32 PM
Had to retrieve the package from the Post Office today. Good times.

Takes:
11 Trini Reyes
09 Bolivar Gold Medal
06 Anejo
09 Litto Gomez Oscuro Americano
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/8001463822_730675c15d_c.jpg

Puts:
08 PSD4
08 Partagas 898
Ashton Heritage Puro Sol Robusto
Arturo Fuente Don Carlos Double Robusto (X2; no newer than 2010)
Alec Bradley Tempus Imperator
Oliva Master Blends 3 Torpedo
Berger & Argenti Entubar Torpedo
11 Tatuaje Avion
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/8001464643_742f4b97d6_z.jpg

If there isn't any objections I'll get this out to the land of 10,000 lakes hopefully tomorrow, but no later than Thursday. :tu
Heading out today! :noon
9406 2036 9930 0022 1628 82 (https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=940620369930002216 2882)

chaase321
09-19-2012, 01:04 PM
Heading out today! :noon
9406 2036 9930 0022 1628 82 (https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=940620369930002216 2882)

Woot Woot this is gonna be an awesome pass!

sofaman
09-19-2012, 01:41 PM
Ok, we gotta get this back on track for bets and get more sticks together for the troops...in that spirit, I am making a bet against the field, and I win nothing with only the possibility of losing more sticks to the troops, I will put up this bet:

I bet that their will be NO UNDEFEATED TEAMS AFTER THIS WEEK!!

Bet #1
If either 1 or both teams remain undefeated I owe 5 troop sticks

Bet #2
Also, in that spirit, since I play one of the undefeated teams (Sofaman), I am putting a bet out to Scott (Sofaman) that I beat him this week. Scott, I'm calling you out, so if you win you can choose either a 5'er of sticks to yourself or the troops. If I win, I will choose that you send a 5'er to the troops.

Therefore, I could be losing 10 total sticks this week if all goes to the wayside.

Anyone else want to get in on the Bet #1 with me this week?

Not to put the pressure on, but at one point last year the guys were betting over 30 sticks a week for the troops...just saying.

You are on :tu and lets make it all troop sticks

chaase321
09-19-2012, 02:00 PM
You are on :tu and lets make it all troop sticks

Sweet!

Mattso3000
09-19-2012, 02:14 PM
I think it was week 3 last year when I bet the field straight up for troop sticks. Thanks for the reminder, Cole. You're all on again. Fiver to the troops from me for anyone that scores higher than me this week. Hopefully you all muster a better effort this time. I believe I only paid out 1 fiver on this last year. Good luck :D

Stephen
09-19-2012, 02:35 PM
Woot Woot this is gonna be an awesome pass!
I already can't wait for it to make it around to me again. :dr

JenksAnejo
09-19-2012, 06:12 PM
I'll bet against myself picking the spread this week!

Whichever games I lose I will owe 5 smokes per game! Seeing as I did terrible last week this will be a good chance for the troops to benefit :)

9/20 8:10 ET At Carolina -2 NY Giants
9/23 1:00 ET At Chicago -7 St. Louis
9/23 1:00 ET At Dallas -8 Tampa Bay

chaase321
09-19-2012, 07:04 PM
I'll bet against myself picking the spread this week!

Whichever games I lose I will owe 5 smokes per game! Seeing as I did terrible last week this will be a good chance for the troops to benefit :)

9/20 8:10 ET At Carolina -2 NY Giants
9/23 1:00 ET At Chicago -7 St. Louis
9/23 1:00 ET At Dallas -8 Tampa Bay

Um...best of luck :sh

Stephen
09-20-2012, 08:47 AM
I think it was week 3 last year when I bet the field straight up for troop sticks. Thanks for the reminder, Cole. You're all on again. Fiver to the troops from me for anyone that scores higher than me this week. Hopefully you all muster a better effort this time. I believe I only paid out 1 fiver on this last year. Good luck :D
I'll take some of this action. -(P

Coach Deg
09-20-2012, 09:06 AM
I'll take the undefeated bet and I will bet you again Matt!

Mattso3000
09-20-2012, 01:05 PM
I'll take some of this action. -(P

I'll take the undefeated bet and I will bet you again Matt!

No need to take this one.:banger Pure troop stick booster, I throw down a fiver for every team that beats me.:D

mkarnold1
09-20-2012, 02:41 PM
No need to take this one.:banger Pure troop stick booster, I throw down a fiver for every team that beats me.:D

I'll bet you a troop 5er that I make you pay a troop 5er! Haha, that's 10 from you if you lose and 5 from me if you win! :banger

Stephen
09-21-2012, 03:13 PM
Heading out today! :noon
9406 2036 9930 0022 1628 82 (https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=940620369930002216 2882)
Priority MailŪ


Delivered


September 21, 2012, 3:14 pm


SAINT CHARLES, MN 55972

:tu

Mattso3000
09-21-2012, 03:28 PM
Mark! Go get yer mail! Yep on the bet as well.

mkarnold1
09-24-2012, 12:06 PM
OK guys, here are my puts and takes:
Puts
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2d705b3127ccef165aa57eeef00000030O01AatWzhk3Ysg e3nwY/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
Takes
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2d705b3127ccef164efd18e9f00000030O01AatWzhk3Ysg e3nwY/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
If this is ok with everyone I will package it up and ship it out. I have about an hour and a half to hit today's mail.

Mattso3000
09-24-2012, 12:15 PM
Looks good to me, Mark. What's the stick on the left?

mkarnold1
09-24-2012, 12:22 PM
It's an LFD Coronado. A big f'in cigar with some really yellow cello. The 3rd from the left is a Villiger Talanga.

mkarnold1
09-24-2012, 12:31 PM
Are you working tonight, bro? Maybe I should hand deliver the box to you.

Stephen
09-24-2012, 01:48 PM
OK guys, here are my puts and takes:
Puts
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2d705b3127ccef165aa57eeef00000030O01AatWzhk3Ysg e3nwY/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
Takes
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2d705b3127ccef164efd18e9f00000030O01AatWzhk3Ysg e3nwY/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
If this is ok with everyone I will package it up and ship it out. I have about an hour and a half to hit today's mail.
Would you mind listing exactly what you're putting? Can't quite make out what everything is from the picture. Thanks.

mkarnold1
09-24-2012, 01:54 PM
'09 Coronado by La Flor Double Toro
La Aroma de Cuba Monarcha
Villiger Talanga Robusto
Oliva V Belicoso
La Duena Petite Belicoso
Ashton VSG Enchantment

Mattso3000
09-24-2012, 03:24 PM
Box is en-route to Burnsville. If Mark is needs to change anything up I'll take care of it. Can't wait to see what's in there...

Mattso3000
09-24-2012, 05:14 PM
And its here. Looks good guys. Ill throw up puts and takes tomorrow. Mark and I are relaxing with a La Duena right now. Tasty little stick courtesy of a heads up bet I won in the baseball league!

chaase321
09-25-2012, 11:36 AM
Really Stephen, Big Ben had 99 points?!?!?!!? Glad he came through for you! grrr... looks like I lose 10 sticks to the troops

Mattso3000
09-25-2012, 03:09 PM
Looks like Mark doubled me up on the bet this week. Jeremy, Sofaman, Travis, and Cole also burned me for a fiver...looks like 30 to the troops this week! :D

sofaman
09-25-2012, 03:24 PM
Really Stephen, Big Ben had 99 points?!?!?!!? Glad he came through for you! grrr... looks like I lose 10 sticks to the troops

He had one of his best games ever and still lost :confused:

Mattso3000
09-25-2012, 03:55 PM
Pass takes and puts:
Takes:
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/mattso3000/QnVybnN2aWxsZS0yMDEyMDkyNS0wMDE3OC5qcGc.jpg
MB3
Villager
Oliva O

Puts:
http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/mattso3000/Qmxvb21pbmd0b24tMjAxMjA5MjUtMDAxNzcuanBn.jpg
Quesada Oktoberfest
Tat Mex Experiment
Tat Anarchy
Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro

Let me know if I need to switch it up and I'll bring it to the PO in the AM tomorrow.

Stephen
09-25-2012, 07:52 PM
Looks good to me. :tu

JenksAnejo
09-25-2012, 09:06 PM
Looks good Matt!

I'll update bets tomorrow when I get a chance!

JenksAnejo
09-26-2012, 04:39 PM
YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Week 1

Coach Deg owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Mattso3000)
Stephen owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Stephen)
Sofa man owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Sofaman)
Mkarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. MKArnold1)
MKarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (MKArnold1 vs. Chaase321)

Week 2

JenksAnejo owe's 5 troop sticks. (JenksAnejo vs. Mattso3000)

Week 3

Chaase321 owes 5 troop sticks (undefeated bet)
Chaase321 owes 5 troop sticks (Chaase321 vs. Sofaman)
Mattso3000 owes 25 troop sticks (Mattso3000 vs. the field) *5 Teams scored higher than Matt in week 3
Jenksanejo owes 5 troop sticks (JenksAnejo vs. The Spread)

I was a little confused on a few bets last week. If you all can help clear it up that would be awesome! Also let me know if you find an error and I'll make sure it gets changed.

I'll bet you a troop 5er that I make you pay a troop 5er! Haha, that's 10 from you if you lose and 5 from me if you win!

Mattso3000
09-26-2012, 04:45 PM
Looks like Mark doubled me up on the bet this week. Jeremy, Sofaman, Travis, and Cole also burned me for a fiver...looks like 30 to the troops this week! :D

I owe 30 troop sticks.

I'll have the pass out in the AM when I get home from work:banger

JenksAnejo
09-26-2012, 04:51 PM
YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Week 1

Coach Deg owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Mattso3000)
Stephen owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Stephen)
Sofa man owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Sofaman)
Mkarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. MKArnold1)
MKarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (MKArnold1 vs. Chaase321)

Week 2

JenksAnejo owe's 5 troop sticks. (JenksAnejo vs. Mattso3000)

Week 3

Chaase321 owes 5 troop sticks (undefeated bet)
Chaase321 owes 5 troop sticks (Chaase321 vs. Sofaman)
Mattso3000 owes 30 troop sticks (Mattso3000 vs. the field)
Jenksanejo owes 5 troop sticks (JenksAnejo vs. The Spread)

chaase321
09-27-2012, 08:37 AM
I'll take the undefeated bet and I will bet you again Matt!

I was a little confused on a few bets last week. If you all can help clear it up that would be awesome! Also let me know if you find an error and I'll make sure it gets changed.

Coach owes a 5'er for the undefeated bet (bet was that no teams would still be undefeated after weeek 3, one team still is).

Coach Deg
09-27-2012, 08:49 AM
Coach owes a 5'er for the undefeated bet (bet was that no teams would still be undefeated after weeek 3, one team still is).

I owe 5 for the loss to Matt, but I was betting there would still be an undefeated team. I was hoping that team would be me!!!!

JenksAnejo
09-27-2012, 09:41 AM
Coach, no worries I figured you were betting to stay undefeated. I'll get the 5 you owe up when I get home tonight.


Also my team has not lost so they are still "undefeated".

Coach Deg
09-27-2012, 10:11 AM
[QUOTE=JenksAnejo;

Also my team has not lost so they are still "undefeated".[/QUOTE]



Thanks, rub it in!

chaase321
09-27-2012, 10:14 AM
I owe 5 for the loss to Matt, but I was betting there would still be an undefeated team. I was hoping that team would be me!!!!

:tu

shilala
09-27-2012, 02:24 PM
Here's an update on who's sent in their entry/betting sticks...

Scott 6 entry 50 troops
Cole 6 entry 10 troops
Stephen 0 entry 20 troops
Travis 5 entry 5 troops
Mark 5 entry 21 troops
shilala 0,0
Jeremy 0,0
Matt 0,0
Mike 0,0
Jarrod 0,0

Please correct me if any of these sound wrong. :tu
A biggie...
The entry fee is 6 premium sticks and 6 troop sticks.
I know that's an easy mistake to make being as it's a new rule. I hope everyone who hasn't sent smokes will catch that. It'll save messing around in the future.

chaase321
09-27-2012, 08:18 PM
Here's an update on who's sent in their entry/betting sticks...

Scott 6 entry 50 troops
Cole 6 entry 10 troops
Stephen 0 entry 20 troops
Travis 5 entry 5 troops
Mark 5 entry 21 troops
shilala 0,0
Jeremy 0,0
Matt 0,0
Mike 0,0
Jarrod 0,0

Please correct me if any of these sound wrong. :tu
A biggie...
The entry fee is 6 premium sticks and 6 troop sticks.
I know that's an easy mistake to make being as it's a new rule. I hope everyone who hasn't sent smokes will catch that. It'll save messing around in the future.

Sweet...I can read all good and stuff! :D
Yea Scott, those are the numbers I remember.

Stephen
09-29-2012, 09:38 AM
I'll have the pass out in the AM when I get home from work:banger
Where are we at with this?

shilala
09-29-2012, 10:50 AM
I think Matt sent it Thursday morning, Stephen. I'm hoping so, anyhow. It's moving along really good so far, it'd be nice if we can continue to get it to a couple guys a week. That kicks ass. :tu

mkarnold1
09-30-2012, 08:15 AM
Hey Coach Deg, is Tampa Torpedos your team? Do you want to put a troop 5er on this week (assuming that is your team).

JenksAnejo
09-30-2012, 01:45 PM
Hey guys, I'll need to be skipped in the pass coming up. I've just got too much going on for me to be able to get it mailed out in a reasonable amount of time. Hopefully I'll be able to make it on the next go around.

Coach Deg
09-30-2012, 04:09 PM
Hey Coach Deg, is Tampa Torpedos your team? Do you want to put a troop 5er on this week (assuming that is your team).

It is! I would have like I always do. I know it's late, but if you want to I'll give you 20points.

mkarnold1
09-30-2012, 05:00 PM
20 pts.? Man, I got this in the bag... All I need is 600 yards and 6 TD's from Eli Manning. No sweat. Haha, I offered the bet before the games started. It's all good and I will give up the troop smokes this week.

shilala
09-30-2012, 06:30 PM
Hey guys, I'll need to be skipped in the pass coming up. I've just got too much going on for me to be able to get it mailed out in a reasonable amount of time. Hopefully I'll be able to make it on the next go around.
Jarrod, get ahold of Travis and have him pass you up and send it to Mike.
We're not sure where it is right now, so Travis could have already sent it on to you.
Please pm the group and/or post here when you hear from Travis.
This is why communication is so extremely important in these passes. Hopefully Matt will let us know it's status or Travis will know he's received it or sent it on.

JenksAnejo
09-30-2012, 06:39 PM
If it sent its no problem at all. I'll make sure the pass isn't held up.

BeerAdvocate
09-30-2012, 08:10 PM
I have not received anything from anyone yet.

Mattso3000
10-01-2012, 06:01 AM
I have not received anything from anyone yet.

Sorry guys, crazy week at work after being on vaca for the last two. I didn't get it out until Fri. afternoon. It is going UPS, i'll find the receipt with the tracking number on it and post it soon. Schedule for delivery was tuesday or wednesday.

BeerAdvocate
10-01-2012, 05:34 PM
So when I receive it, I am skipping Jarrod and shipping to Mike (Coach_Deg), correct????

shilala
10-02-2012, 10:03 AM
So when I receive it, I am skipping Jarrod and shipping to Mike (Coach_Deg), correct????
Yessir. :tu
Please pm Mike and keep him in the loop, okay? He might not be expecting it so soon.

Coach Deg
10-03-2012, 12:57 PM
Yessir. :tu
Please pm Mike and keep him in the loop, okay? He might not be expecting it so soon.

You kidding! I'm sitting on my porch waiting for it!!!!

BeerAdvocate
10-03-2012, 06:53 PM
I got the box today and if I have approval of my takes puts, I will ship off to Mike tomorrow and post the tracking #. Here it goes:

Takes:
Partagas D No.4
Viaje Platino
Quesada Oktoberfest
La Duena

Puts:
Bolivar Belicoso
Monte No. 4
Oliva V lancero
LaRiqueza corona
SanLotano Oval corona
Cabiguan maduro
7-20-4

Mattso3000
10-03-2012, 07:02 PM
Sounds good to me Travis.

Mark...fiver on this weeks matchup?

JenksAnejo
10-03-2012, 07:09 PM
Stephen, any interest in betting this week?

mkarnold1
10-03-2012, 07:14 PM
Sounds good to me Travis.

Mark...fiver on this weeks matchup?

You're on man. :su

Mattso3000
10-03-2012, 07:16 PM
You're on man. :su

Sure you don't want some points on this?:D

mkarnold1
10-03-2012, 07:39 PM
You may have a better record, but I've scored more points thus far. If you feel as though you need me to give you a few points, let me know. Either way, you need to get a box ready to ship some troop smokes out.

shilala
10-04-2012, 09:39 AM
I got the box today and if I have approval of my takes puts, I will ship off to Mike tomorrow and post the tracking #. Here it goes:

Takes:
Partagas D No.4
Viaje Platino
Quesada Oktoberfest
La Duena

Puts:
Bolivar Belicoso
Monte No. 4
Oliva V lancero
LaRiqueza corona
SanLotano Oval corona
Cabiguan maduro
7-20-4
Sounds good to me, Travis. :tu

BeerAdvocate
10-04-2012, 09:41 AM
You kidding! I'm sitting on my porch waiting for it!!!!

Going out today and you should receive on Tuesday.
Here is the UPS Tracking # 1Z6912090395250248

Stephen
10-04-2012, 02:51 PM
Stephen, any interest in betting this week?
Sure, why not?

Coach Deg
10-07-2012, 07:12 AM
Scott you up for a troop 5-er?

Mattso3000
10-08-2012, 03:59 AM
You're on man. :su

Drinking a Grain Belt Premium in honor of my victory, Mark.:D

mkarnold1
10-08-2012, 07:36 AM
Drinking a Grain Belt Premium in honor of my victory, Mark.:D

Reggie "Bruce" Wayne kicked my ass man. It looked like he had some batarang and grappling hook action going on to catch some of his looks yesterday. But I'll take that every time to see the Pack go down and the Vikes win big in the same week. :banger

Mattso3000
10-08-2012, 01:38 PM
Reggie "Bruce" Wayne kicked my ass man. It looked like he had some batarang and grappling hook action going on to catch some of his looks yesterday. But I'll take that every time to see the Pack go down and the Vikes win big in the same week. :banger

Yup, Leah thought something was wrong when I didn't turn the TV to the Vikes game when it started but I just couldn't leave the Indy comeback early.:banger

JenksAnejo
10-09-2012, 06:47 PM
YTD Troop Bets

Chaase321 owe's 5 troop sticks. (Chaase321 vs. JenksAnejo 9/2/12)

Week 1

Coach Deg owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Mattso3000)
Stephen owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Stephen)
Sofa man owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. Sofaman)
Mkarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (Coach Deg vs. MKArnold1)
MKarnold owe's 5 troop sticks. (MKArnold1 vs. Chaase321)

Week 2

JenksAnejo owe's 5 troop sticks. (JenksAnejo vs. Mattso3000)

Week 3

Chaase321 owes 5 troop sticks (undefeated bet)
Chaase321 owes 5 troop sticks (Chaase321 vs. Sofaman)
Mattso3000 owes 30 troop sticks (Mattso3000 vs. the field)
Jenksanejo owes 5 troop sticks (JenksAnejo vs. The Spread)
CoachDeg owes 5 troop sticks (Coach vs. Mattso)

Week 5

MKarnold owes 5 troop sticks (MKarnold vs. Mattso)
JenksAnejo owes 5 troop sticks (JenksAnejo vs. Stephen)

JenksAnejo
10-09-2012, 06:52 PM
Wow, I didn't start a kicker or a flex last week. I lost by six points, DOH!

Coach Deg
10-09-2012, 08:33 PM
Ok, just got home from little league, box got here late. I can't get pics up from phone. My takes are 09 upmann, 09 punch, 08 partagas, tat limited, and tat anarchy.

Puts are 08 Bolivar, 12 Bolivar, 11 Monti 2, VSG, San Cristobal, la aroma de Cuba, viaje plantino, and Lfd Airbender.

If you guys approve before morning, I will get pics up before work and possibly get out tomorrow.

Coach Deg
10-10-2012, 03:54 AM
Here is the pictures. If you guys approve, I will try to get out today.

Mattso3000
10-10-2012, 05:03 AM
Looks great, Mike. Is that another Samurai Maduro going in? :banger

Coach Deg
10-10-2012, 05:24 AM
Yes, but I don't remember seeing one in there.

Mattso3000
10-10-2012, 05:30 AM
I put one in, Travis took it out before sending to you. They're damn good.

Coach Deg
10-10-2012, 05:52 AM
Yes they are. I bought 10 when they came out, I think I'm down to 2.

chaase321
10-11-2012, 05:56 PM
Here is the pictures. If you guys approve, I will try to get out today.

Hey Coach, just wondering if you got this out yesterday/today and if I should be on the lookout for it?

Coach Deg
10-12-2012, 10:00 AM
Went out yesterday. 739956661405997. FedEx should be delivered Sat.

chaase321
10-12-2012, 10:23 AM
Sweet :tu I'll have the wife looking out for it while I'm at work.

chaase321
10-13-2012, 10:34 AM
Received the box today! :noon

I'll be looking through what is in there, what I have, and I will post pictures later today. It won't go out until Monday.

shilala
10-13-2012, 11:48 AM
Have fun, Cole!!! :tu

chaase321
10-13-2012, 02:30 PM
Alright gents. I'll post pictures when I get to a computer but I was going to list puts and takes to see if you all approve...

Takes: (5 sticks)
Monte No.2 (cc)
Boli beli finos (cc)
RASS (cc)
Juan Lopez selection no.4 (cc) (I think...haven't checked the thumb drive yet)
Tat avaion (nc)

Puts: (8 sticks)
Trini Reyes (x2 cc)
PLPC (x2 cc)
R&J Cedro de luxe no.1 (cc)
FFP (nc)
Illusione ultra OP no9 toro (nc)
Fuente Fuente opus X (nc)

Willing to switch out the illusione ultra for a cohiba esplendidos if you all think I need to.

Let me know guys :tu
Also ill take time to go through everything tomorrow since the mail doesn't run and update the thumb drive accordingly.

Coach Deg
10-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Looks good to me!!!!

chaase321
10-14-2012, 09:56 AM
Alright Gents,

I just wanted to update some people on the pass. I have it :noon
I went through everything and updated the list of puts and takes, guys, it is very important we are updating the list each time we take and put to make sure everything goes smoothly.

This is not intended in anyway to call anyone out...purely meant to make sure we are updating everything accordingly, so keep up the good work brothers :tu
There are two sticks that are missing from the pass:
-Montecristo No.4 (the 2010 Monte 4 from Scott's original put is still in the pass, however BeerAdvocate added another and I don't see it)
-09 H. Upmann Magnum (46 or 50) Coach, do you know if you took the 46 or 50? we are missing the one you didn't take.
-A 2006 AF Don Carlos Robusto has been added to the pass, not sure who this is from?

Also, I wanted to let everyone know that I made an Excel file that has the entire list of puts/takes and every stick that has came through the pass. I have highlighted each stick that is no longer in the pass and put the name of the person who took it beside the stick. The reason why I did this is to give people another form of updating that may make it easier than the Notepad file. If you want to update the Excel file feel free (I will be keeping it up to date on my computer as I see puts and takes with each person on the thread) but please, at a minimum, make sure you update the Notepad file with your puts and takes.

This pass is going well, and I'm excited to be a part of it, let's keep it up guys.
I will be shipping tomorrow morning to Jkim05 (Jeremy) and will post the tracking info when I receive it.

Good luck to everyone this week!

chaase321
10-14-2012, 11:33 AM
As stated previously, here are my puts and takes:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m640/chaase321/photo1-17.jpg
Takes: (5 sticks)
Monte No.2 (cc)
Boli beli finos (cc)
RASS (cc)
Juan Lopez selection no.1 (cc)
Tat avaion (nc)

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m640/chaase321/photo2-17.jpg
Puts: (8 sticks)
Trini Reyes (x2 cc)
PLPC (x2 cc)
R&J Cedro de luxe no.1 (cc)
FFP (nc)
Illusione ultra OP no9 toro (nc)
Fuente Fuente opus X (nc)

Coach Deg
10-14-2012, 12:23 PM
It was a bigger Upmann then I have seen before so would that be the 50?

chaase321
10-14-2012, 12:42 PM
It was a bigger Upmann then I have seen before so would that be the 50?

the 50 is 6.3" long and 50 rg
the 46 is 5.6" long and 46 rg

Thanks coach :tu

Mattso3000
10-14-2012, 02:20 PM
I'll call myself out, Cole...forgot all about the flash drive. Thanks for doing the work and updating everything. Puts look great!

chaase321
10-14-2012, 02:54 PM
I'll call myself out, Cole...forgot all about the flash drive. Thanks for doing the work and updating everything. Puts look great!

No worries brother :tu and thanks!

chaase321
10-15-2012, 07:38 AM
Ships to Jeremy (jkim05) this morning. Being that he is rather close, it should get there by tomorrow.

DC 9406 2036 9930 0022 6809 04
Insured :tu

BeerAdvocate
10-15-2012, 10:40 AM
I'll call myself out, Cole...forgot all about the flash drive. Thanks for doing the work and updating everything. Puts look great!

Same with me. Guilty! I totally forgot about the flash drive.

chaase321
10-15-2012, 11:12 AM
Same with me. Guilty! I totally forgot about the flash drive.

No worries, you'll get another chance!!! :D

Mattso3000
10-15-2012, 05:40 PM
RGIII is on the table for anyone interested. I could use a good tight end or wide receiver.

chaase321
10-17-2012, 12:43 PM
9406203699300022680904
Priority MailŪ
Delivered
October 16, 2012, 2:36 pm
ROCKVILLE, MD 20850

:tu

chaase321
10-17-2012, 12:57 PM
Any bets this week guys?

I want to make a "I'm calling you out" bet to Matt (Mattso3000)...

This is a 2-week bet for 10 troop sticks:
I bet that my team will score more points than your team over the course of this week and next week combined. (Right now, we are closely estimated in points)

Want a piece of this, Mr. First Place?? Huh, do ya!?!? Come on, Punk!

.... :hy (all in good fun bro :tu )

chaase321
10-17-2012, 01:08 PM
Based on Shilala's last entry update post(5 players paid, 5 haven't) entry sticks posting 106 from entries
Plus bets to date (if i recall there weren't any bets last week) 95

...which means...Current Troop Sticks to date:
201 sticks! (plus at least 30 outstanding from entries 5 players x 6 sticks each)



Woot Woot, let's keep it up guys, I think we are on pace for beating last year's total!!

jkim05
10-17-2012, 02:30 PM
So the box is apparently at my house, but I will not be there until Saturday. It is being taken care of, I didn't want it shipped to my apt in DC. Any case I'll get puts and takes up on Saturday or Sunday and have it shipped out by Monday.

I'm mounting my comeback from last place, lol, so in honor of my first win, I'm open to all bets, troop sticks or otherwise. Bring it on.

Mattso3000
10-17-2012, 04:20 PM
Any bets this week guys?

I want to make a "I'm calling you out" bet to Matt (Mattso3000)...

This is a 2-week bet for 10 troop sticks:
I bet that my team will score more points than your team over the course of this week and next week combined. (Right now, we are closely estimated in points)

Want a piece of this, Mr. First Place?? Huh, do ya!?!? Come on, Punk!

.... :hy (all in good fun bro :tu )

Ohhhh Yeah...you're on, Cole!

chaase321
10-17-2012, 06:13 PM
So the box is apparently at my house, but I will not be there until Saturday. It is being taken care of, I didn't want it shipped to my apt in DC. Any case I'll get puts and takes up on Saturday or Sunday and have it shipped out by Monday.

I'm mounting my comeback from last place, lol, so in honor of my first win, I'm open to all bets, troop sticks or otherwise. Bring it on.

Sorry I sent it before I got your PM reply, just wanted to get it out as quick as possilble. Could you PM the group the addy you would like to be used in the future passes so it doesn't happen again. Of course, if you stay after me, we can probably just meet up, but just so everyone has it. Thanks! :tu

chaase321
10-17-2012, 06:14 PM
:su:su:su

Ohhhh Yeah...you're on, Cole!

Mattso3000
10-20-2012, 10:56 PM
Where is the pass at now? Any update on it?

chaase321
10-21-2012, 06:52 AM
Where is the pass at now? Any update on it?

Pass was sent to Jeremy (Jkim05). It got there on Tuesday or Wednesday (can't remember now). He wasn't able to get to the box until Friday night, so we should be seeing puts and takes soon and hopefully it can go out on Monday.

jkim05
10-21-2012, 04:48 PM
Ive got the pass, I'll get puts and takes posted tonight and the box out sometime tomorrow

Mattso3000
10-21-2012, 05:17 PM
Ive got the pass, I'll get puts and takes posted tonight and the box out sometime tomorrow

Sweet.

Cole... I hate to admit it, but I'm rooting for you here. It would be nice to be the only team at 6-1.:D

chaase321
10-21-2012, 05:23 PM
Sweet.

Cole... I hate to admit it, but I'm rooting for you here. It would be nice to be the only team at 6-1.:D

Dude, I had 150 points with 2 rb's, 1 wr, 1 te, and a kicker left. I thought I was going to blow your 215 total out of the water! Now, I'm thinking I'll end more with like 195. Gonna be a tight week next week!

Mattso3000
10-21-2012, 05:45 PM
Dude, I had 150 points with 2 rb's, 1 wr, 1 te, and a kicker left. I thought I was going to blow your 215 total out of the water! Now, I'm thinking I'll end more with like 195. Gonna be a tight week next week!

Yup. I thought you had me beat easy. Still could happen. I just hope Brady doesn't get the ball back here. Playing against him in another league. Touchdown or nothin', Jets!

jkim05
10-22-2012, 09:41 AM
Ok, here are my puts and takes:
Puts
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8112948386_4873e557ae.jpg
'11 RyJ Wide Churchill
'11 PSD4
'98 Punch Churchill
'11 QDO Corona
'08 Tatuaje Havana VI

Takes
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8112939221_729254c9ec.jpg
Cohiba CE
BBF
RyJ Cedros No.1
Boli PC
Illusione Epernay

Let me know if I overlooked anything, and I'll get the box out today.

chaase321
10-22-2012, 10:44 AM
Hey Jeremy, puts and takes look great, just one reminder from Scott's rules that I think we have been honoring well so far. (If you don't have it boxed up already!!)

Pass Rules

f.)Every time a member receives the pass box, he agrees to add a couple extra premium cigars to seed this pass for years to come.


Ok, here are my puts and takes:
Puts
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8112948386_4873e557ae.jpg
'11 RyJ Wide Churchill
'11 PSD4
'98 Punch Churchill
'11 QDO Corona
'08 Tatuaje Havana VI

Takes
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8112939221_729254c9ec.jpg
Cohiba CE
BBF
RyJ Cedros No.1
Boli PC
Illusione Epernay

Let me know if I overlooked anything, and I'll get the box out today.

Other than that, looks like a really good exchange there :tu