Your All Time MLB team

[jonumberone]

I like to play these kind of games. :)
It's always fun to see what others think and how deep biases run.

Here's mine

C Yogi Berra
1B Lou Gherig
2B Joe Morgan
3B Brooks Robinson
SS Derek Jeter
OF Babe Ruth
OF Willie Mays
OF Mickey Mantle

SP Sandy Koufax
RP Mariano Rivera

I figure I'm gonna get killed on the Berra vs Bench and Jeter Vs Ripken arguments.
OF is a tough one, I felt you have to have Babe in there, and Willie and Mick are the the two greatest 5 tool players, IMO.
I put Morgan in at second, quite frankly because I couldn't think of anyone else, I thought of Sandburg, but was never really impressed by him.

What's your team?
Also, please feel free to debate me on mine! :tu :)

[icehog3]

Your team looks pretty good to me, Dom. :tu

I am going a different route.....my favorites, rather than "the best".

C Pudge Rodriguez
1B Miguel Cabrera
2B Ryne Sandberg
SS Derek Jeter
3B Ron Santo
OF Willie Horton
OF Al Kaline
OF Billy Williams

SP Fergie Jenkins
RP John Smoltz

[CRIMPS]

Ok, I think I would like to play.

C Pudge Rodriguez
1B Don Mattingly
2B Roberto Alomar
SS Omar Vizquel/Derek Jeter
3B George Brett
OF Mickey Mantle
OF Ichiro Suzuki
OF Babe Ruth

SP Nolan Ryan
RP Mariano Rivera

[elderboy02]

C Johnny Bench
1B Joey Votto
2B Joe Morgan
3B Pete Rose
SS Cal Ripken Jr.
LF Ted Williams
CF Ty Cobb
RF Hank Aaron

SP Greg Maddux
RP Dennis Eckersley

[Blak Smyth]

C Johnny Bench
1B Joey Votto
2B Joe Morgan
3B Pete Rose
SS Cal Ripken Jr.
LF Ted Williams
CF Ty Cobb
RF Hank Aaron

SP Greg Maddux
RP Dennis Eckersley

Finally a Pete Rose vote! :tu

[shilala]

I'm gonna go with my favorites, too. Plus I decided to cheat a bit, because there's just way too many excellent ball players to pick a team.
C Mike Piazza
1B Willie Stargell (Okay, he mostly played outfield, but it's my team)
2B Joe Morgan
3B Chipper Jones (love that kid)
OF Pete Rose
OF Barry Bonds (although I can't stand him)
OF Willie Mays
Util Mickey Mantle
Util Ken Griffey Jr.
Util Roberto Clemente

SP Greg Maddux (No one else is necessary.)
RP Mariano Rivera (who else?)
RP Kent Tekulve
RP Sparky Lyle

[kelmac07]

C Mike Piazza
1B Willie McCovey
2B Joe Morgan
3B Mike Schmidt
SS Derek Jeter
LF Barry Bonds
CF Ty Cobb
RF Willie Mays
DH Edgar Martinez

SP Walter Johnson
RP Mariano Rivera

[forgop]

1B-Lou Gehrig
2B-Rogers Hornsby
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-Honus Wagner
OF-Babe Ruth
OF-Willie Mays
OF-Ted Williams
OF-Ty Cobb(can't get down to just 3 OF's-loved his movie also)
C-Yogi Berra
SP-Christy Mathewson
RP-Mariano Rivera
DH-Frank Thomas

When I was a kid, I lived baseball and read every biography I could get my hands on. I grew up reading about many players who played and often died before I was even born. I'm pretty partial to the older players because they put up numbers that haven't been repeated without the asistance of performance enhancing drugs, the juiced ball, and change in pitching mound height.

[Stephen]

C: Ivan Rodriguez
1B: Lou Gehrig
2B: Rogers Hornsby
3B: Mike Schmidt
SS: Alex Rodriguez
OF: Barry Bonds
OF: Ty Cobb
OF: Willie Mays
DH: Babe Ruth
SP: Lefty Grove
RP: Mariano Rivera

Next two up for me would've been Ted Williams and Stan Musial.

[Stephen]

I like to play these kind of games. :)
It's always fun to see what others think and how deep biases run.

Here's mine

C Yogi Berra
1B Lou Gherig
2B Joe Morgan
3B Brooks Robinson
SS Derek Jeter
OF Babe Ruth
OF Willie Mays
OF Mickey Mantle

SP Sandy Koufax
RP Mariano Rivera
Also, please feel free to debate me on mine! :tu :)

Pedro Martinez >> Sandy Koufax, but there's really not much to debate there. ;)

[Stephen]

I'm gonna go with my favorites, too. Plus I decided to cheat a bit, because there's just way too many excellent ball players to pick a team.
C Mike Piazza
1B Willie Stargell (Okay, he mostly played outfield, but it's my team)
2B Joe Morgan
3B Chipper Jones (love that kid)
OF Pete Rose
OF Barry Bonds (although I can't stand him)
OF Willie Mays
Util Mickey Mantle
Util Ken Griffey Jr.
Util Roberto Clemente

SP Greg Maddux (No one else is necessary.)
RP Mariano Rivera (who else?)
RP Kent Tekulve
RP Sparky Lyle
C Mike Piazza
1B Willie McCovey
2B Joe Morgan
3B Mike Schmidt
SS Derek Jeter
LF Barry Bonds
CF Ty Cobb
RF Willie Mays
DH Edgar Martinez

SP Walter Johnson
RP Mariano Rivera

I figured I would've been the lone wolf with that pick. Good job. :tu

[BUC WHITE]

C: Mike Piazza
1B: The Babe
2B: Joe Morgan
3B: Pete Rose
SS: Jeter
OF: Ted Williams
OF: Willie Mays
OF: Barry Bonds
UTIL: Griffey Jr
UTIL: Mantle

SP: Nolan Ryan
CP: Mariano

side note: If I had an all-time draft and I had the first pick, I Would take Pete Rose

[forgop]

I figured I would've been the lone wolf with that pick. Good job. :tu

It's a good pick if you choose to have a steroid user on your list. He's not going to make the HOF, so why he'd be on anybody's list is beyond me. Sadly, he would have still been a great player had he chosen not to juice up.

[Stephen]

I am going a different route.....my favorites, rather than "the best".

C Pudge Rodriguez
1B Miguel Cabrera
2B Ryne Sandberg
SS Derek Jeter
3B Ron Santo
OF Willie Horton
OF Al Kaline
OF Billy Williams

SP Fergie Jenkins
RP John Smoltz

Good tweak on the question, Tom. My favorites:

C: Gary Carter
1B: Mark Grace (slumpbuster)
2B: Roberto Alomar
SS: Calvin Edward Ripken Jr. (favorite ballplayer of all time)
3B: George Brett
OF: Bo Jackson
OF: Rickey Henderson
OF: Vladimir Guerrero

SP: Greg Maddux
RP: Dan Quisenberry

[Stephen]

It's a good pick if you choose to have a steroid user on your list. He's not going to make the HOF, so why he'd be on anybody's list is beyond me. Sadly, he would have still been a great player had he chosen not to juice up.
He's not going to make the HOF because of politics, not his play on the field. What he did between the stripes stacks up against anyone in MLB history. As an aside, I wonder how your list might look if you elimnated all those who took amphetamines. :2

[Stephen]

C: Mike Piazza
1B: The Babe
2B: Joe Morgan
3B: Pete Rose
SS: Jeter
OF: Ted Williams
OF: Willie Mays
OF: Barry Bonds
UTIL: Griffey Jr
UTIL: Mantle

SP: Nolan Ryan
CP: Mariano

side note: If I had an all-time draft and I had the first pick, I Would take Pete Rose
Care to place a wager on that? :D

[chippewastud79]

C: Yogi Berra
1B: George Herman Ruth
2B: Rogers Hornsby
3B: Mike Schmidt
SS: Cal Ripken Jr.
OF: Roberto Clemente
OF: Hank Aaron
OF: Willie Mays

SP: Nolan Ryan
RP: Mariano Rivera

Line-up to bat

1. Rickey Henderson
2. Pete Rose
3. Barry Bonds
4. Babe Ruth
5. Ted Williams
6. Stan Musial
7. Lou Gehrig
8. Frank Robinson
9. Ty Cobb

[forgop]

He's not going to make the HOF because of politics, not his play on the field. What he did between the stripes stacks up against anyone in MLB history. As an aside, I wonder how your list might look if you elimnated all those who took amphetamines. :2

I'm not disputing Bonds didn't play like one of the best ever on the field. All I'm disputing is his ability to play at that level before he needed a bigger hat and shoes. He's a guy who would have been a 30/30 or 40/40 with a respectable average and RBi's before roids entered the picture.

As far as the greenies, you might as well ban Red Bull and coffee. They will have similar results.

[Stephen]

I'm not disputing Bonds didn't play like one of the best ever on the field. All I'm disputing is his ability to play at that level before he needed a bigger hat and shoes. He's a guy who would have been a 30/30 or 40/40 with a respectable average and RBi's before roids entered the picture.
Uh, he was a multiple MVP award winner before there were even whispers of alleged steroid use.
As far as the greenies, you might as well ban Red Bull and coffee. They will have similar results.
I'm not the one on a witch-hunt here, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[smitty81]

Uh, he was a multiple MVP award winner before there were even whispers of alleged steroid use.


Not wanting to get in the middle of this and get this thread off track but whos to say how long he has been using them?

[gorob23]

DAMN IT follow the rules :sl

Rob :tf


Your team looks pretty good to me, Dom. :tu

I am going a different route.....my favorites, rather than "the best".

C Pudge Rodriguez
1B Miguel Cabrera
2B Ryne Sandberg
SS Derek Jeter
3B Ron Santo
OF Willie Horton
OF Al Kaline
OF Billy Williams

SP Fergie Jenkins
RP John Smoltz

[Stephen]

Not wanting to get in the middle of this and get this thread off track but whos to say how long he has been using them?
According to Kimberly Bell he started using them after 1998 season.

[smitty81]

According to Kimberly Bell he started using them after 1998 season.

Only BB knows the real truth.

[Stephen]

Only BB knows the real truth.
Nah, having a bunch of armchair inquisitors is much more accurate.

[smitty81]

back on topic

[icehog3]

DAMN IT follow the rules :sl

Rob :tf

I didn't see any rules, I was just clarifying that these were MY faves, not the best.:noon

I didn't see Patrick Kane on your list, he was a great DH.

Back off topic.

[smitty81]

I didn't see any rules, I was just clarifying that these were MY faves, not the best.:noon

I didn't see Patrick Kane on your list, he was a great DH.

Back off topic.

:r

[forgop]

Uh, he was a multiple MVP award winner before there were even whispers of alleged steroid use.

I'm not the one on a witch-hunt here, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

I know he was a three time MVP and then went on to win four consecutive MVP awards after an 8 year "break". A guy whose career best 49 HR's (up 15 from just a year before), then hit 73 without any help? Puh-lease.

I don't think hypocrisy is the issue unless you are trying to make the case of steroids being no more of a performance enhancing drug than a drug that mimicks caffeine, albeit with more severe side effects.

[Starscream]

Getting back on track:

C: Bench
1B: Frank Thomas
2B: Morgan
3B: Charlie Hustle
SS: Ozzie Smith
OF: Ruth
OF: Cobb
OF: Bonds

SP: Maddux
SP: Clemens
SP: Randy Johnson
SP: Halladay
SP: Ryan

RP: Rivera
RP: Chapman
RP: Eckersley
RP: Rollie Fingers
RP: Goose Gossage
RP: Rob Dibble

On the bench:
Griffey Jr (the Seattle Mariners version)
Gehrig
Jeter
Larkin
Reggie Jackson
Deion Sanders

How's that for the whole 25-man roster?

[Stephen]

I know he was a three time MVP and then went on to win four consecutive MVP awards after an 8 year "break". A guy whose career best 49 HR's (up 15 from just a year before), then hit 73 without any help? Puh-lease.
You said...
All I'm disputing is his ability to play at that level before he needed a bigger hat and shoes.
I'd also point out that during that, "8 year break", he was an All-Star every year, won four GG, four SS, and finished in top top five in MVP voting four times.
I don't think hypocrisy is the issue unless you are trying to make the case of steroids being no more of a performance enhancing drug than a drug that mimicks caffeine, albeit with more severe side effects.
Couldn't the same logic be used for anabolic steroids that you're using for amphetamines? After all, anabolic steroids are a drug that mimics testosterone, albeit with more side effects. See how that works? :tu

[bobarian]

C: Bench
1b: Gehrig
2b: Jackie Robinson
SS: Ripken
3b: Brooks Robinson
OF: Mays
OF: Mantle
OF: Clemente
RHP: Ryan
LHP: Carlton