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pektel
05-22-2012, 09:52 AM
This unit is on sale today at Woot:

Capresso 580.01 Burr Grinder

http://home.woot.com/?utm_source=Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=cb94437da9-Daily+Digest+-+20120522+-+Woot&utm_medium=email#tracked

I see it's not a conical burr grinder. But as of right now, I have NO grinder. When I buy coffee, I have to buy it pre-ground.

Think this is even worth purchasing? Or just keep on with buying preground stuff until I can buy a good conical burr grinder?

Thanks in advance. :tu

357
05-22-2012, 10:55 AM
I have no experience with grinders. I too would like to get one someday but can't afford the high-end prices.

Here's that model on Amazon, with quite a few reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Capresso-580-01-Disk-Grinder-Black/dp/B001G8Y2NG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337702055&sr=8-1

Of 46 reviews, 11 are 2 star, 18 are 1 star, 5 star being best.

pektel
05-22-2012, 11:18 AM
Guess that answers my question lol. Normally I check the interwebz before posting a question. Forgive me, I hadn't yet had any caffeine when posting the thread.

357
05-22-2012, 11:29 AM
I wouldn't call Amazon reviews gospel. Some more educated folks around here might have a more valuable opinion. Still, all must be considered.

mosesbotbol
05-22-2012, 12:10 PM
Put it this way; if you go through a pound a week of coffee and this grinder lasts just one year, you've only added a $1 a pound to your coffee expense.

Capresso is a decent brand, nothing high end and I would not expect a lifetime of service from this grinder. Cheaper grinders are hard to take apart and motor may not have muscle for the long haul, but it's an improvement over your current method.

This is a good baby step until you are ready for the Mazzer or Rocky.

SvilleKid
05-22-2012, 07:00 PM
I don't grind coffee every day, more like once a week. But sometimes three or more times a week. I have a Capresso brand conical burr grinder that is probably medium grade at best, but does an excellent job, every single time. And I've had it for over 6 years, and it's still working as well as it worked new. It was a Christmas gift from my mother, so I don't know the cost, but it looks similar to one's that they now sell for around $70-$80.

I guess it just depends on the luck of the draw. My luck with the brand has been all good.

RevSmoke
05-23-2012, 03:59 PM
Why a burr grinder over a blade grinder/chopper?

mosesbotbol
05-23-2012, 04:06 PM
Why a burr grinder over a blade grinder/chopper?

More even & predictable grind.

ChicagoWhiteSox
05-23-2012, 04:11 PM
Why a burr grinder over a blade grinder/chopper?

What Moses said, but I'll add that it will affect the flavor if you use a blade grinder. If I drink coffee that was ground with a blade, I almost always get a weird burnt taste (even with great beans), as well as thinner body and overall flavor profile.

mosesbotbol
05-23-2012, 04:33 PM
I almost always get a weird burnt taste (even with great beans), as well as thinner body and overall flavor profile.

I heard it does raise the temperature of the beans more by using a blade grinder, but have never tried burr and blade side by side. I use my blade grinder strictly for herbs and spices.

ChicagoWhiteSox
05-23-2012, 04:43 PM
I heard it does raise the temperature of the beans more by using a blade grinder, but have never tried burr and blade side by side. I use my blade grinder strictly for herbs and spices.

I used a blade years ago, friends and family still use blade, and I can tell a pretty big difference. I spent around $150 on my burr and if you keep them clean, they'll last. I should have bought a Rocky back when I starting get big into coffee, but live and learn I guess. I'll get one soon.

mosesbotbol
05-23-2012, 04:56 PM
I should have bought a Rocky back when I starting get big into coffee, but live and learn I guess. I'll get one soon.

I have had my Rocky 13+ years and it has never been apart for cleaning. Works great. I clean by running a cup of dry rice though it.

I go through about a pound of coffee a week.

floydpink
05-23-2012, 07:49 PM
I have had my Rocky 13+ years and it has never been apart for cleaning. Works great. I clean by running a cup of dry rice though it.

I go through about a pound of coffee a week.

You might be surprised at how easy it is to open it and give the burrs and area around it a good brushing and vacuum.

I'm on a 6 month schedule with my Macap M4 and have it done in 20 minutes.

Rice works ok, but theres no substitute for a good brush and light scraping and Shop Vac IMO.

novasurf
05-25-2012, 06:22 AM
It's all about extraction. The more uniform the coffee has been ground, the better the extraction of the good stuff in coffee during the brewing process. Since a whirly bird blade does not usually provide a uniform grind, there's a potential for negative a variation in the cup.

mosesbotbol
08-09-2012, 01:43 PM
Here's one on Craigslist that looks awesome

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/app/3191534137.html

floydpink
08-10-2012, 08:35 AM
Here's one on Craigslist that looks awesome

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/app/3191534137.html

Should read "Brasilia" in the ad, but that is a really nice grinder for the price.

Brasilia doesn't have a large presence in the USA, but is big in Europe.

They do have an awesome customer service department here and I deal with them occasionally for my Brasilia Mini Classic machine.

jjirons69
12-05-2012, 01:04 PM
I have a Capresso brand conical burr grinder bought from Costco several years ago. It's loud and makes a staticy, dusty, friggin' mess every morning. My wife is about ready to chuck it. I'm thinking more on the lines of an economical manual conical grinder like the Kyocera CM-50 or the Hario Coffee Hand Grinder Skerton (really both the same thing). It's compact for traveling, too. I've read the many reviews and watched the videos. Anyone else have one to critique?

shilala
12-05-2012, 01:42 PM
Take a look at the Cuisanart Burr Grinder, Jamie. I have one and it works great. Mind ya, I use it sparingly, but it grinds nice and doesn't make a great big mess. (It spews all the ground coffee into a box with a spout on it.)

jjirons69
12-05-2012, 02:15 PM
The Capresso and does the same thing as yours, Scott. However, the ground in inconsistent and the finely ground dust is extremely staticy (sp) and falls all over the counter and in the sink no matter how careful you are. It's just a messy bastig! Plus, there is that dust in the grind that makes a fine slug in the pot (which my wife hates). I was thinking maybe the manual grind would be more consistent and since it wasn't at such a high speed, the static wouldn't be generated. Here's a look at my current grinder.

The pretty picture with the non-static coffee is total BS, too. With that much grinding, there would be a clouded mess in the catch container.

http://imagethumbnails.milo.com/016/071/327/trimmed/16071102_22107327_trimmed.jpg

shilala
12-05-2012, 02:31 PM
Yup, yours looks pretty much just like mine and works the same, including the static. :)

mosesbotbol
12-05-2012, 02:32 PM
Not all burr grinders create so much staic or fine dust; get what you pay for to some extent.

forgop
12-05-2012, 06:39 PM
http://imagethumbnails.milo.com/016/071/327/trimmed/16071102_22107327_trimmed.jpg

I had this exact same grinder and it sucked. Coffee dust/grounds everywhere and inconsistent grind.

Here is what I just received today to use instead. I roast my own beans and use cold brew about 65% of the time, french press 34% of the time, and will probably make some in the Keurig for the remaining 1%. I used the coarsest setting on there and I'm a little anxious to see how well it filters in the cold brew in the morning as even the coarsest grind is perhaps a little smaller than I hoped for.

jjirons69
12-06-2012, 09:03 AM
I went ahead and jumped on it. I got the Hario Skerton. I'll use it for a few weeks and let everyone know how it goes. Seems to be a solid instrument that's good at doing what it was designed for. It's mainly my wife and myself having morning or weekend brew, so a small, consistent unit is exactly what we're looking for.

http://www.gimmecoffee.com/blog/img/skerton_blog.jpg

dc_glidden
01-14-2013, 06:21 PM
I went ahead and jumped on it. I got the Hario Skerton. I'll use it for a few weeks and let everyone know how it goes. Seems to be a solid instrument that's good at doing what it was designed for. It's mainly my wife and myself having morning or weekend brew, so a small, consistent unit is exactly what we're looking for.

http://www.gimmecoffee.com/blog/img/skerton_blog.jpg

for the cost of that grinder it does very well, I've had that one and the smaller one with the lid ( to which I use more often ) and they both perform very well, consistent grind. Only draw back in the time it takes to actually grind your coffee manually.

My personal rating of the above grinder is an 8/10 and if they would make rubberized grip around where you connect it to the jar to get a better grip, I would give it a 9.

omowasu
01-14-2013, 08:32 PM
I don't grind coffee every day, more like once a week. But sometimes three or more times a week. I have a Capresso brand conical burr grinder that is probably medium grade at best, but does an excellent job, every single time. And I've had it for over 6 years, and it's still working as well as it worked new. It was a Christmas gift from my mother, so I don't know the cost, but it looks similar to one's that they now sell for around $70-$80.

I guess it just depends on the luck of the draw. My luck with the brand has been all good.

I have a Capresso thats about 7-8 years old now, seems to work great, and has definitely seen some abuse (rocks in the beans, lack of cleaning, etc). There were a couple issues with it - one was the static concern. That was easily remedied by pouring the coffee from the catch bin into the filter while over the sink (and is really more indicative of overall house and bean humidity than the Capresso itself), and yes it does need to be tilted forward when the grind is done to get all of the grounds out from under the burr. But it works for me and I use it for standard drip grind, espresso grind, and Turkish.

The newer units may not be built as well - I havent looked in some time.