Fresh Rolled Cigars?

[smitty81]

I'm not to sure what "fresh rolled" exactly means but I am guessing it's basically what it says it is.

A cigar that has no ageing time?

Are these best smoked right away or should they be aged?

I am thinking about trying the AJ Fernandez Fresh‑Rolled cigars but I want to be sure that I know what I am buying.

Teach me about the fresh rolled cigars please.

[levrac68]

I've bought a few cigars that were specifically made for me by a shop near my house. My experience with them is that they're a bit moist for my liking, so I let them sit in my humi for about 2 weeks. As far as aging is concerned, a cigar will change over time. The flavors will blend together and depending on how you store it, it will mellow with time. If you buy a few, there's nothing wrong with a little experimentation.

Enjoy
TF

[icehog3]

Fresh rolled to me means right from the roller's hands to me. I have smoked a few in my time, and as TF said, I find them a bit wet to enjoy, but the experience itself made it worth my while.

[montecristo#2]

Same experience for me. I consider a fresh roll something that was rolled right there or at least rolled within a couple of days.

I am not sure I would consider something I buy in a box as a fresh roll. Might be more of a marketing gimmick. If the box sits around for six months, not exactly fresh anymore. :r

With that said a lot of NCs are aged before they are shipped, so this is probably the distinction they are trying to make.

[Remo]

From what I have read about some, the tobacco's used are already aged, then rolled and shipped, no aging after they have been rolled. So fresh rolled.

[emopunker2004]

From what I've seen online the reviews for these are good for a cheap smoke

[kelmac07]

I'm with Tom on this one...right from the rollers hand to mine. And as others have stated, something to experience, but way too wet for my liking.

[jjirons69]

Close by in downtown Chucktown, Lianos Dos Palmas rolls 'em fresh daily. They're great as soon as the pectin dries.

[Apoco]

With a cigar that just finished rolling - I've found that 24 - 72 hours was perfect for letting the pectin dry and the cigar tasted perfect. Anything more than that and it tasted too fresh. Don't ask me why - but my cigar age window seems to be 1-3 days or 3+ months :r
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[icehog3]

With a cigar that just finished rolling - I've found that 24 - 72 hours was perfect for letting the pectin dry and the cigar tasted perfect. Anything more than that and it tasted too fresh. Don't ask me why - but my cigar age window seems to be 1-3 days or 3+ months :r
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Rule of 3's? :D

[mosesbotbol]

There's a place in the Bronx that makes them and they are OK. Fun to smoke if you can get a blend and size you enjoy.

[kuzi16]

i find that fresh rolled cigars are (as said before) a bit wet. however, they can show a progression in a cigar that you cannot get otherwise.

think of it this way, most cigars that you buy online have had some serious time in an aging room. that room is there for a reason. when you make a cigar you are adding moisture to the mix. (this is why most think they are too moist for them) this moisture actually re-starts the fermentation process. if you are able to have a cigar within a day or so of it being made that is truly fresh rolled. after that, you may end up getting some of the ammonia flavors that are a by-product of fermentation. until the cigar settles down (most of the reason for the aging room) it will be unpalatable to many.



if you do get fresh rolled cigars, smoke a few very quickly. then hold on to the rest for quite some time before you light up.

or try them a few weeks out. see whats goin on in there.


As for the AJ freshrolled, i have no idea how long ago they were rolled. days? weeks? months? i have no clue. who knows where they are in the process.

[smitty81]

i find that fresh rolled cigars are (as said before) a bit wet. however, they can show a progression in a cigar that you cannot get otherwise.

think of it this way, most cigars that you buy online have had some serious time in an aging room. that room is there for a reason. when you make a cigar you are adding moisture to the mix. (this is why most think they are too moist for them) this moisture actually re-starts the fermentation process. if you are able to have a cigar within a day or so of it being made that is truly fresh rolled. after that, you may end up getting some of the ammonia flavors that are a by-product of fermentation. until the cigar settles down (most of the reason for the aging room) it will be unpalatable to many.



if you do get fresh rolled cigars, smoke a few very quickly. then hold on to the rest for quite some time before you light up.

or try them a few weeks out. see whats goin on in there.


As for the AJ freshrolled, i have no idea how long ago they were rolled. days? weeks? months? i have no clue. who knows where they are in the process.

Thanks for the explanation. I think I understand now. I might buy a mazo of them and sit on them if I can. I could have bought them for around $1.00 a piece last night but didn't. Maby I should buy one and give it a try before I order a bunch.

[kelmac07]

I have received a handful of fresh rolled Torano sticks at an event in 2009. Smoked one a few months later and it was very good. Then, smoked another about two and half years later and all the flavor was gone.

[smitty81]

hmm...........well, maby I will just skip these.

[jluck]

Thanks for the explanation. I think I understand now. I might buy a mazo of them and sit on them if I can. I could have bought them for around $1.00 a piece last night but didn't. Maby I should buy one and give it a try before I order a bunch.

I think you guys are talking about different things. Smitty are you referring to particular brand called "fresh rolled" or a line within a brand? can you post a pic of what you are looking at?

[smitty81]

Here we go.

AJ Fernandez Fresh Rolled

http://img.cigar.com/p/500/cs/a/cs-aje.jpg

http://img.cigar.com/p/500/cs/a/cs-ajg.jpg

Heres the description.


It isn't easy producing quality cigars at an affordable, everyday price, but thankfully AJ did us a solid. We asked for a fresh-rolled blend we could deliver every day; a blend designed and then initially rolled by AJ Fernandez himself.

If you're not familiar with Fernandez, he's responsible for the highly famed Man O' War brand, among a plethora of other premiums he produces for himself and other top-notch manufacturers such as Gurkha and Rocky Patel.

AJ's fresh-rolled cigars feature premium, Nicaraguan long leaf tobaccos all concealed with his acclaimed Ecuadorian-grown Nicaraguan-seed Habano wrapper for a full-flavored, medium-bodied experience. Masterfully constructed under the supervision of AJ Fernandez, these fresh-rolled cigars are a true testament to the art of cigar making.

[jluck]

OH AJ STUFF! In that case...buy them and send them to me and I will protect you from smoking green cigars. I'm here to help. ;)

Is there no description? these might be greenhorn's practice cigars too.

>>>Here's the skinny on the fresh rolled..

No bells and whistles but a great value. He had some off color habano ecuador wrapper and excess fillers he needed to use so we came up with this little brand. Good value day in and day out. It dawned on me that we really didn't have a bundle item as even his inexpensive stuff is boxed like Nica Libre etc. If you like the value line stuff out of his camp you will like this. Just a solid everyday smoke. If you are going in expecting a Man O War, Diesel or Ave Maria, you will be disappointed but if you want a quality made medium bodied habano, can't go wrong with these. Its really the first and will most likely be the only stick he makes under $2
Alex Svenson
Chief Merchant
Cigar.com <<<

[DaBear]

With a cigar that just finished rolling - I've found that 24 - 72 hours was perfect for letting the pectin dry and the cigar tasted perfect. Anything more than that and it tasted too fresh. Don't ask me why - but my cigar age window seems to be 1-3 days or 3+ months :r
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Pepin actually recommends your rule of thumb for the sticks he rolls at events. He hands em out and tells you to either smoke it within a day or after 1-2 months of rest. And from my own experience with rolling my own, I'd have to agree.

[BeerAdvocate]

The AJ Fresh Rolled cigars are one of the best cigars you can get for the money.
Well worth it. I am burning through a bundle of coronas and plan on buying more.
Do not hesitate!!!!!

Also, the Perdomo fresh rolled are great too.

[smitty81]

The AJ Fresh Rolled cigars are one of the best cigars you can get for the money.
Well worth it. I am burning through a bundle of coronas and plan on buying more.
Do not hesitate!!!!!

Also, the Perdomo fresh rolled are great too.

Ok, thanks.
so are these actually a fresh rolled cigar and I should smoke them all right away or would I be ok to store them?

[DaBear]

Ok, thanks.
so are these actually a fresh rolled cigar and I should smoke them all right away or would I be ok to store them?

You should be fine storing them. I'm assuming the 'fresh rolled' just means these bad boys were rolled and then sent out almost immediately.

[mosesbotbol]

RG Lonsdales boxes have something written about fresh cigars. I think they say within 2 months or after one year. Don't have a box in front of me to look at.

[The Poet]

IMHO, none of the products mentioned above would qualify as being "fresh-rolled", and that nomenclature is meant as a marketing tool rather than an apt description. If this is the case, they should be fine to smoke at once, or at least after a brief rest from the shipping shock ROTT.

As for what I would consider to truly be freshed-rolled cigars, it is my understanding that they should either be smoked immediately or left to age for at least 6 months. "Fresh" tobacco , even that which has been aged before the rolling process, needs to gas out ammonia, and for a time this will adversely affect the taste of the product. Once that ageing period has passed, the cigar should recover most of its initial taste, and may even improve, much like a fine wine, with proper storage.

That's my :2 , and probably worth every penny.

[jluck]

IMHO, none of the products mentioned above would qualify as being "fresh-rolled", and that nomenclature is meant as a marketing tool rather than an apt description. If this is the case, they should be fine to smoke at once, or at least after a brief rest from the shipping shock ROTT.

As for what I would consider to truly be freshed-rolled cigars, it is my understanding that they should either be smoked immediately or left to age for at least 6 months. "Fresh" tobacco , even that which has been aged before the rolling process, needs to gas out ammonia, and for a time this will adversely affect the taste of the product. Once that ageing period has passed, the cigar should recover most of its initial taste, and may even improve, much like a fine wine, with proper storage.

That's my :2 , and probably worth every penny.
:tpd:

[Hem]

They roll em fresh down here in Tampa on the streets...some good some bad. More of an impulse buy than anything else...especially after a few drinks! I've always enjoyed them. Just something cool about watching a guy roll you a cigar and lightin' her up right after.

[SvilleKid]

Close by in downtown Chucktown, Lianos Dos Palmas rolls 'em fresh daily. They're great as soon as the pectin dries.

I just noticed this thread, and you beat me to the punch! These are ALL rolled with tobacco that is at least 4 years aged (per the owner). I've smoked them fresh from the roller on two different occasions in the shop. Both were given to me by the owner, who sat and smoked one with me on both occasions. Both were excellent. Next time I'm in Charleston, it's a sure bet I'll be smoking my third one fresh outta the blocks!!

[Stinky]

Fresh rolled to me is smoked within the first 30 days. Then, the aging process begins. sometimes it's a month, maybe 2 or 3 or more before they go into the "Sick Period" which is a "No-Smoke" period. The 'sick-period' is usually less than one year. Then, it's a cigar worth smoking, again. Smoke them FRESH or wait until they're ready (after the 1-year period). Fresh Rolled is a unique experience. Try it! Keep some for the one-year plus in your humidor and smoke to compare. You'll see. Cigars change with age. This "Fresh-Rolled" aspect is a great taste test.

Here's my opinion:
I'd like to see more cigar manufactures stamp the box with the "ROLL" date! Like the guys do in Cuba. Good idea! ??

[bobarian]

IMHO, "fresh rolled" in the parlance of most US catalogs means absolutely nothing. It is merely a marketing gimmick, like any of the other descriptive terms they use loosely.

Consider that it may take 30 days or more after a cigar is rolled on the table until the entire order is ready to ship to the US warehouse. Shipping time and customs clearance may take another 30 days or more. Catalog printing lead time of 30 more days(probably more) and then processing and shipment of your order. Under ideal circumstances a "fresh rolled" cigar is at least 100 days or more off the table. And that is assuming that you receive the stock last into the warehouse. Most companies ship first in, first out, so you would be receiving stock from their previous shipment. :2

Unless you saw it come off the rollers table, good luck with "fresh rolled" :sh

[pnoon]

I had no idea aging begins after a cigar is rolled. ;)

[CigarNut]

I have had fresh rolled cigars a few times. Once at a Don Pepin cigar event where Don Pepin and friends were rolling cigars. They were fantastic -- but mostly because of the whole event ambience.

The other only truly fresh rolled cigars I have had are from a roller at Sosa Cigars (Downtown Disney, Orlando). The roller is there Friday and Saturday afternoons. The cigars are pretty good for what they are.

If you did not see it being rolled, then it's not "Fresh Rolled"...

[mosesbotbol]

I was at a Symantec sponsored dinner party once and they had a cigar roller there. The cigars weren't bad. Excellent construction, but very mild. I find that fresh rolled cigars are often well crafted, but it comes down to the blend.

[maninblack]

Cigar.com has AJ Fernandez fresh rolled for 39.99 shipped. Toro sized. Mazos of 20.