Are these fake??

[Drkns]

I bought some cigars today but I am fairly sure they might be fakes. The experts Please stand up :)
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/IMG_0729.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/IMG_0728.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/IMG_0727.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/IMG_0726.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/IMG_0725.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/IMG_0724.jpg

Thanks for your replies.

[icehog3]

How much did you pay for them?

[shilala]

I honestly expected boobs.

[kaisersozei]

I honestly expected boobs.

I honestly was hoping for boobs.

[icehog3]

Wait, it might turn out that way. ;)

[kickerb]

I honestly expected boobs.

I honestly was hoping for boobs.

:tpd:

[forgop]

They're legit. They weren't spelled Cohibo, so you're good to go. :D

[big pete]

I honestly was hoping for boobs.

:tu

[Drkns]

I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

[forgop]

I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

I definitely would t worry since the market rate on the 2003 DC is much closer to $60/stick. You got them at a great price.

[awsmith4]

I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

They were produced in 02/03 but they can still be found.

Go to www.cubancigarwebsite.com and look at the Cohiba page and see if the measurements match. Secondly, are these from a trusted source?

Oh, nudity may be allowed, but boobs are always appreciated

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w16/twist3d_0n3/Boobs.png

[forgop]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w16/twist3d_0n3/Boobs.png

These aren't the only fakes in this thread. :D

[pektel]

Must. not. make. motorboat. sounds.

[BigAsh]

thank you Albert! :tu

[Subvet642]

A little warning for those viewing from work would have been useful. :o

[neoflex]

Must. not. make. motorboat. sounds.

:r

[Dave128]

Boobies!!

[Powers]

Must. not. make. motorboat. sounds.

:banger :noon

[Drkns]

OK they cigars are fake but how about these??????
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/under.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/img47f6331d7f6bf.jpg

[bobarian]

I paid $20 per stick. Do habanos still produce DC 2003 limited edition? I didn't know posting boobs allowed otherwise I wouldn't let you down :)

It is extremely difficult to determine authenticity from pictures or by price. As Albert said, check the exact measurements on the site referenced.

From the pictures there is nothing that screams "fake" :2

[Drkns]

Measurements are alright that's why I was confused. I started smoking cigars with cohiba Double corona LE 2003 and they were awesome at the time. I am just surprised seeing it today. Cigars are hard to come by in my country and as usual there are fakes and real ones as well.

[RichieBklyn]

OK they cigars are fake but how about these??????
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/under.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/Drkns_Tr/img47f6331d7f6bf.jpg

Does it really mattter.....

[Islayphile]

Does it really mattter.....

If you can touch them they are real

[the jiggler]

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/The_jiggler/33279.jpg

Pretty sure these are real.

[357]

:pu

[bobarian]

Apparently, now the mod's need to ban banter from discussion threads. :sh

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[awsmith4]

It is extremely difficult to determine authenticity from pictures or by price. As Albert said, check the exact measurements on the site referenced.

From the pictures there is nothing that screams "fake" :2

I agree Bob, nothing in the OP's pictures look fake. I thought maybe the wrapper seemed too dark but not compared to the picture at CCW

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/images%5CCohiba_Double_Coronas_cigar_orig.jpg

The price would make me think twice but I guess you just need to smoke them and find out

[Adriftpanda]

I think I payed close to $50 a piece for mine, like Bob mention, nothing screams out fake to me. It could be the lighting but at first glance, I thought the cigar was way too dark.

[Drkns]

I bought one 2003 DC limited edition, 2004 limited edition, maduro 5 and partagas limited edition 2008. The place I bought is not habanos but then habanos does not exist in Turkey.

The sizes are exact match, the bands are all look and feel true. I am either extremely lucky or fakes gotten a long way and become indistinguishable, in this latter case, I am worried. The darker color is due to my hands shadow. The original DC limiteds that I smoked back in 2003 were rather greenish brown in color as far as I remember but they were not aged and rather dry. Oh well I will know when I smoke em.

Thanks all.

[bobarian]

When you are done smoking, cut open what's left. It is very easy to tell short from long filler. :2

[Drkns]

Bobarian can you give an example?

[bobarian]

Here is a decent video showing short filler. Basically, short filler is a bunch of bits and long filler are whole leaves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj83WyY_xoI&feature=related

[Poronico]

EAT IT SUCKERS!
http://floppingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/man-boobs.jpg

[AlohaStyle]

Just comparing the Edicion Limitada band on the 03, the top row of gold dots are definitely different than the band on CubanCigarWebsite. The correct band on Trevor's site has an even amount of black space above and below the gold dots. Your band is much different. Your band's gold dots also look pretty blurred together and not as detailed as the correct band.

Judging by price, where you bought it and that band, I say fake. But as we've seen before, you can always find bad bands on legit cigars. But not as much on EL's.

[Drkns]

Bobarian, interesting info much appreciated.

[Drkns]

Ryan, you are right about thinner black line on top of gold dots but gold dots are rather sharp on actual cigar. Blur is due to iphone shake. If that makes this cigar fake and I also think this is fake makes me very sad since this means fake is as good as the real one on appearance. Thank you.

[BMack]

Keep in mind the bands could be real and the cigar could be fake. The best way to know is to smoke it.

[Drkns]

Your absolutely right BMack. Thanks.

[STEVE S]

They all look Real to me!!!

[Drkns]

I know this thread is getting longer than it should be but I am thinking of asking the shop to show me boxes. What do you think I should look or note or does it make any difference?

[Volusianator]

I bought some cigars today but I am fairly sure they might be fakes.

Thanks for your replies.

Nope, they are real cigars.

[BMack]

I know this thread is getting longer than it should be but I am thinking of asking the shop to show me boxes. What do you think I should look or note or does it make any difference?

Use cubancigarwebsite for your reference and check to see if the right seals(sizes as well as makings are correct). You could also check with habanos.com to verify the serial number(if applicable). There will be an "authenticity check" button on the top of the site.

Generally though, if you don't have absolute trust in your sources I would generally consider them to be fakes...there are just soo many fakes out there and soo many ways to fake them. Some weasel can easily buy a box of real cigars, switch the bands and put them back in the box...now he has the real cigars and some trusting BOTL has an expensive box of dog rockets.

[Drkns]

Today I smoked maduro 5 and it was genuine alright. After 4 hrs I still has the taste and it was long filler definitely. I am going to ask the seller if they can get a box of double corona 2003 and will have the box code etc. to share with you all. Thanks. As I mentioned earlier habanos does not exist in Turkey but the place I am buying is in an upscale mall with lots of real liquor etc.

[Sonic04GT]

Don't mind me, I'm just here to contribute boobs.

http://www.lolzilla.net/images/54706872158095166958.gif

[pnoon]

There are plenty of banter threads to threadjack on.
Let's try and keep a cigar thread on topic.

[Reaver2145]

But cigars and boobs go soo well together.

And on topic is it just me or dose the band on the LE03 look a little washed out compared to the maduro5 to me the yellow looks a shade or two lighter and the gold duller.

But that might just be the iphone.

[CigarGuy88]

I'm saying fake on both of them based on the loops in the "C" in cuba touching (usually a dead giveaway. Also the wrappers look insanely dark on and a bit too even for me. When somethin don't smell right it usually isnt.

[akumushi]

I personally wouldn't buy a Cohiba EL 2003 DC anywhere but a reputable, licensed habanos dealer like an LCDH. It is quite possibly the most frequently faked cuban cigar, and the likelihood that you found a great deal on them is nill. If someone has the legitimate thing, why would they sell it for 50-70% below market value? :2
If the price was right and you enjoyed the cigar, well I guess that's all that matters.

[Drkns]

I didn't smoke DC 2003 Limited edition yet and I think it is fake since I smoked two boxes in 2003 when my father brought 4 boxes of it from Cuba as a Turkish Tobacco monopoly board member back then. They were awesome. These are fake but darn good ones that surprises me that's all. Pictures are lousy at best, wrapper colors and band colors are bang on so is size measures. I am also suspicious about the thickness of black line above and the emboss of the word cohiba is irregular on the band. I was not after a deal but saw them in bunch of other Cuban cigars at the tobacco shop. As I mentioned earlier Maduro 5 was genuine and I think they are mixing fakes with real ones.

[BMack]

I might be stepping out of my place here but I personally wouldn't be willing to support any shop selling cigars they know are fakes.

[akumushi]

I didn't smoke DC 2003 Limited edition yet and I think it is fake since I smoked two boxes in 2003 when my father brought 4 boxes of it from Cuba as a Turkish Tobacco monopoly board member back then. They were awesome. These are fake but darn good ones that surprises me that's all. Pictures are lousy at best, wrapper colors and band colors are bang on so is size measures. I am also suspicious about the thickness of black line above and the emboss of the word cohiba is irregular on the band. I was not after a deal but saw them in bunch of other Cuban cigars at the tobacco shop. As I mentioned earlier Maduro 5 was genuine and I think they are mixing fakes with real ones.

This would not surprise me in the least. If that's the only source you have, I would stick to unpopular vitolas in the lesser known marcas (the less likely to be counterfeited) and then scrutinize everything I did buy. I do tend to agree with the sentiment of not supporting anybody selling fakes, but it sounds like that might be the only option for the OP, if so best of luck.
:tu

[icehog3]

I personally wouldn't buy a Cohiba EL 2003 DC anywhere but a reputable, licensed habanos dealer like an LCDH.

As I mentioned earlier habanos does not exist in Turkey but the place I am buying is in an upscale mall with lots of real liquor etc.

They have real liquor, so they must be reputable. ;)

[Drkns]

Haha sure real liquor does not make one place reputable. :) Cigar sales are only allowed in touristic hotels in Turkey. There is an import ban on all kinds of cigars. For example no American cigars none even fakes cannot be found if there are any. Lousy Turkish made cigars are every where. I bought cubans from this place and their cohiba robustos and partagas lines are real but these were new. I was surprised seeing DC 2003 LE. The seller assured he is buying from a legit source but sellers assurance does not make one reputable either :) I will stick to less popular brands and sizes since there is only two shops in Capital city that's all. You guys are lucky.

[Drkns]

I don't think shop owner does it deliberately. As I said its an upscale neighborhood and he cannot survive once it is proven he sell fakes.

[forgop]

I don't think shop owner does it deliberately. As I said its an upscale neighborhood and he cannot survive once it is proven he sell fakes.

Well, he either purchases from a LCDH or he doesn't. If he's purchasing from anywhere else and they're not authentic, it seems pretty deliberate to me. :2

[bobarian]

Well, he either purchases from a LCDH or he doesn't. If he's purchasing from anywhere else and they're not authentic, it seems pretty deliberate to me. :2

??? This is a complete fabrication. There are many sources of legitimate Cuban cigars that are not official LCDH's. If you have no direct knowledge it is best to remain silent. :2

[Drkns]

Today I went there and asked for the box of DC 2003 EL and they will get it ready for me. I will know since I still have an original box. According to his story, a tour operator to Cuba is bringing cigars using his customers 50 cigar permit. If one to come from another country can bring in 50 cigars with him according to Turkish customs rule as personal item. That is how I get my American cigars. My friends from states bring in 2 boxes every time they visit me. I told him my friends find it extremely hard to believe that Cohiba 2003 DC EL is real. We will see. My intention was not to start an argument but there are legit cigars even in Turkey and no LCDH.

[BMack]

How bad are the penalties if customs finds cigars in a package? I'd rather go that route than buy somewhere you're unsure of...I think that's about as much as I can say in an open forum.

There HAS to be better ways to get you cigars then risking you spending your money on fakes.

[awsmith4]

I don't know much about Turkey but a quick Google search shows and LCDH in Bucharest. Even if that is a good ways from you maybe they ship

[Drkns]

Every small and personal cargo is subject to x-ray screening and once they discover that there are cigars in it, they call you and ask to open the box and viola. They either trash all the cigars and destroy them by crushing and give you the empty box and have to pay a small fee or if you can convince them that there is a mistake then they ship the cargo back to the sender. We are under a strick regime now. The only way to bring in cigars is if one to visit another country and at his return back to Turkey he can carry 50 cigars as personal item, other than that few shops like this sells cigars.

[dwoodward]

... There are Cuban maduros??? Seriously!?

[T.G]

... There are Cuban maduros??? Seriously!?
Yes. 3 vitolas under the Cohiba marque, came out about 5 years ago.

[dwoodward]

Yes. 3 vitolas under the Cohiba marque, came out about 5 years ago.

Sounds tasty... :dr

[pnoon]

Sounds tasty... :dr

not really. :2

[T.G]

Sounds tasty... :dr

Everyone's tastes are different, but I wasn't that impressed by them.

[BTcigars]

Here are three quick things you can do on the spot:

1. Check the band. The color, font, physical size, and application of the band are good indicators unless of course its a real band on a fake cigar. If you have a iPhone or Android based phone, it should be a breeze to go online and look for pictures of actual bands (like on the website, already mentioned, cubancigarwebsite.com)

2. Check for a tripple cap.

3. Rub the foot of the cigar with your finger. Sounds strange but when guys come back from Mexico with fake CC's and want to know if they are real, I rub the foot of the cigar and a bunch of short filler falls out and thats how I show them its fake.

Be sure to also check vitolas.net as there is some very good information on how to spot fakes. Hope this helps!

[Pilon]

look legit to me

[Reaver2145]

Sounds tasty... :dr

The cheapest one the cohiba secretos are the other two are quite overpriced and crap.

RyJ Escudo Maduros are pretty good though.

[Sauer Grapes]

Today I went there and asked for the box of DC 2003 EL and they will get it ready for me. I will know since I still have an original box. According to his story, a tour operator to Cuba is bringing cigars using his customers 50 cigar permit. If one to come from another country can bring in 50 cigars with him according to Turkish customs rule as personal item. That is how I get my American cigars. My friends from states bring in 2 boxes every time they visit me. I told him my friends find it extremely hard to believe that Cohiba 2003 DC EL is real. We will see. My intention was not to start an argument but there are legit cigars even in Turkey and no LCDH.

A few things...

I wonder what he means by "get the box ready" for you? It's possible he has cigars stored elsewhere, but I wonder why he doesn't have them displayed in the box. Do you think he's searching for a legit box right now?

Also, an awful lot of fakes (in our country at least) come with stories about getting them directly from someone in Cuba that has a connection, or something like that. Doesn't mean they're not real, but I tend to think "stories" offered to prove authenticity warrant more skepticism.

On a related note... thanks for posting this. I thought I remembered having one in the humi, and I just confirmed it. I had no idea they were so highly sought after. I hope my expectations aren't too high now with this knowledge.

[Sauer Grapes]

Every small and personal cargo is subject to x-ray screening and once they discover that there are cigars in it, they call you and ask to open the box and viola. They either trash all the cigars and destroy them by crushing and give you the empty box and have to pay a small fee or if you can convince them that there is a mistake then they ship the cargo back to the sender. We are under a strick regime now. The only way to bring in cigars is if one to visit another country and at his return back to Turkey he can carry 50 cigars as personal item, other than that few shops like this sells cigars.

It must suck to live somewhere that doesn't allow cigars from specific countries. :r I joke.

[Jasonw560]

I honestly was hoping for boobs.

Boobs are proof that a man can concentrate on two things at once.

And now back to our regularly scheduled thread....

[Drkns]

As I said before you guys are lucky and in some respect sucks to be in Turkey. DC 2003 EL was indeed fake after smoking it. The only thing that gave it away was the taste. Even the filler was long fillers. I do not need to see the box since it feels that they have gone all the way to fake this magnificent cigar. If you know a good and reliable online source please let me know privately so that I can buy some and my friends from states will bring in next time they visit me.

Thanks

[ysr_racer]

Would you buy a Rolex from some guy that knew some guy...

[bvilchez]

Would you buy a Rolex from some guy that knew some guy...

If the Rolex is real yes.

[Drkns]

Point taken thanks. Desperate times desperate measures.

[Drkns]

My thanks to all that replied :)
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[Steve]

I honestly expected boobs.

:tpd::D

[Reaver2145]

Oh phoon isnt going to like this.

[icehog3]

Oh phoon isnt going to like this.

Nope, clear violation of Cigar Asylum policy.

[never_enough]

Glad I work at home.

[icehog3]

Glad I work at home.

No worries any more, the nudity is gone.

[pnoon]

Oh phoon isnt going to like this.
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[Blak Smyth]

Bahahaah I love the replacement pic! Well played!

[RobR1205]

I like this website, mainly to see what types there are out there. Try plugging in your dates, sizes, etc. on this link and see what pops up. Hope this helps!

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Cohiba

[T.G]

Oh phoon isnt going to like this.


That's the #6 with lean brisket, tripe, flank and tendon, right?

[Reaver2145]

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I WAS CLOSE and really i meant icehog