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Chainsaw13
02-28-2012, 08:57 PM
Tonight I texted my friend Dave to see if he wanted to come smoke a cigar out in the mancave. Surprisingly he said he'd be by in a bit. Dave's not a big cigar smoker and tends towards sweetened tip/flavored cigars. No biggie, just cool to hang with him.

He stopped by a local B&M to pick up a couple sticks. He's found the DE Java Mint flavored are to his liking (I tasted and actually not bad). After taking off the cello and clipping the cap, he showed me the cigar and the big ole patch job done on the wrapper. Very strange. Surprised it wouldn't been rejected.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=618&pictureid=6878

It still smoked good for him, so no harm no foul.

emopunker2004
02-28-2012, 09:02 PM
Coulda been a B&M patch job, not from DE. :2

Chainsaw13
02-28-2012, 09:04 PM
Coulda been a B&M patch job, not from DE. :2

I thought that too, but the sticker on the back of the cello was new. My buddy had just ripped it to open to get the cigar out.

macsauce13
02-28-2012, 09:19 PM
I would say regardless of the sticker condition that was certainly done by someone outside of DE.

emopunker2004
02-28-2012, 09:24 PM
I thought that too, but the sticker on the back of the cello was new. My buddy had just ripped it to open to get the cigar out.

This means nothing really. you can easily remove the sticker enough to open the cello and reclose it.

Chainsaw13
02-29-2012, 06:08 AM
This means nothing really. you can easily remove the sticker enough to open the cello and reclose it.

True, but I doubt the B&M went to this trouble. I've not been there yet but as described to me, it's more a tobacco shop than a cigar shop.

Blak Smyth
02-29-2012, 06:33 AM
Ask Kevin (Savor the Stick) about his Frankenstick he smoked at the Thanksgiving herf in Cali last year! It was an amazing creation!

shilala
02-29-2012, 07:15 AM
I have to side with the majority on this one. It smells like a B&M trick.
Despite that, who knows? I can easily see someone on the line patching it up when they put on a cap. They have everything they need right there.
I've never gotten a patched up cigar, period. I have had some Fuente stuff that was slopped with pectin all over, but it wasn't because they were patching anything.

Remo
02-29-2012, 07:21 AM
Awesome :tu but I doubt DE did it.

CigarSquid
02-29-2012, 07:34 AM
I had a Java Latte, that I had bought in Bay Area, CA over Thanksgiving. I smoked it, oh prolly, 3 or so weeks ago. It had some repair job like that as well.. Thought it was weird, but it smoked and tasted fine.

ktblunden
02-29-2012, 07:37 AM
Yeah, I've never seen anything like that make it past quality control from ANY company, let alone DE.

Stephen
02-29-2012, 07:45 AM
I have had some Fuente stuff that was slopped with pectin all over, but it wasn't because they were patching anything.
Pectin you say...?:hm

SmokinApe
02-29-2012, 01:50 PM
I had a Java Latte, that I had bought in Bay Area, CA over Thanksgiving. I smoked it, oh prolly, 3 or so weeks ago. It had some repair job like that as well.. Thought it was weird, but it smoked and tasted fine.

Must have been from the same B&M :)

CigarSquid
02-29-2012, 02:06 PM
Walnut Creek

Chainsaw13
02-29-2012, 04:11 PM
I highly doubt it was a case of the B&M fixing it. Why go through all the trouble to carefully remove it from the cello, all the while not tearing the sticker holding the cello shut, patch the cigar, carefully put it back in the cello, and then seal it back up. Again, this isn't a cigar shop more than a tobacco shop. My experience with most of these places is they could care less about the condition of the product, just whether you buy it or not.

From what I can gather, these sticks are a collaboration between DE and Rocky Patel. The sticker even has the RP logo on it, but clearly states the cigar being the Java Mint and the size. The pics I"ve seen online show it coming in a DE box. Possibly RP rolls these and DE distributes because they're more known for the infused cigars?

Anyway, not to get into a big discussion about DE's production standards. I just thought it highly odd to get something like this from what appeared to be straight from the factory.

And no, it wasn't the same B&M. I"m in Michigan, no where near CA.

cigarmonkel
02-29-2012, 04:15 PM
Maybe they were that bored? But another question is, if they ARENT a B&M where would they get the stuff to patch it up with? I doubt a tobacco store carries that stuff.

Drez
02-29-2012, 04:19 PM
shes not the prettiest of the bunch but as long as it smoked good thats all that matters. :tu

AD720
02-29-2012, 04:44 PM
I'd send that picture to DE, email, tweet it to JD, whatever. That's pretty poor QC if it came from them and if it didn't (ie the B&M did it) I'm sure they would be interested in knowing about it.

NCRadioMan
02-29-2012, 04:58 PM
Of course it was done at the b&m. I've had to do it dozens of times making it look as undisturbed as possible. However, we always take a dollar or two off the price.

SmokinApe
02-29-2012, 06:14 PM
Maybe they were that bored? But another question is, if they ARENT a B&M where would they get the stuff to patch it up with? I doubt a tobacco store carries that stuff.

They could have used some of that Cigar Glue, I heard there is a member here that sells it from time to time...

maninblack
02-29-2012, 06:51 PM
Hmmmmmm.....weird. Did it affect the smoke Bob?

T.G
02-29-2012, 07:42 PM
From what I can gather, these sticks are a collaboration between DE and Rocky Patel. The sticker even has the RP logo on it, but clearly states the cigar being the Java Mint and the size. The pics I"ve seen online show it coming in a DE box. Possibly RP rolls these and DE distributes because they're more known for the infused cigars?


Java's are, and have always been, rolled by Drew Estate.

Chainsaw13
02-29-2012, 07:47 PM
Hmmmmmm.....weird. Did it affect the smoke Bob?

Nope, not in the least.

Thanks for the correction Adam. I wasn't sure about the collaboration.

sikk50
02-29-2012, 10:46 PM
I've gotten some pretty big patches from the factory, but they usually aren't that sloppy

Zeuceone
02-29-2012, 11:02 PM
As Long as it draws