Dissappointing smoke.

[oooo35980]

So last night I asked my wife to bring me a cigar I've never had before, and to remove the band so I didn't know what cigar I was smoking. I like to do that so I can go into a smoke with no expectations.

She brought me the stick and it was a box pressed Maduro, the outside was like dry paper, the foot was about the same, it was obviously dried out. But she had already cut it for me so I figured what the hell, smoked it and there was alot of spice, no real redeeming flavor. Hell the cigar had almost no smell whatsoever before I lit it. I got about halfway before I asked for the band, it was a Padron anniversary 1964 . I got it from a place with locked Humidors where the little old lady behind the counter takes out the cigars and puts them in a bag for you after you point at them from behind the glass, I didnt want to offend her by taking them out of the bag and squeezing them or smelling them. Next time I'll know better.

I also got 2 Oliva V, and 2 illusione mks from there :bh

[SteelCityBoy]

That's a shame because from what I remember of the Padron 1964 I smoked it was pretty darn good! I say try and get your hands on anthother and give it another go....

They are pretty good sticks!

[Blak Smyth]

That is an awesome idea, I should have the wife pull out a stick for me.
She would have no idea what she is grabbing so it would be a true experiment other than me knowing what cigars are in there.

[oooo35980]

That is an awesome idea, I should have the wife pull out a stick for me.
She would have no idea what she is grabbing so it would be a true experiment other than me knowing what cigars are in there.

Make sure she knows how to remove the band without jacking up the wrapper, lfmf.

[OLS]

It's funny, when you described that I was thinking you had a Padron Ann. They can BE moist and such, but
they do look and act dry throughout a wide range of conditions. And sometimes they ARE just spicy and harsh.
But it sounds like conditions at the store were a joke. People DO steal those smokes a lot.

[Blak Smyth]

Make sure she knows how to remove the band without jacking up the wrapper, lfmf.

Good point, I am actually too worried she will grab an HTF cigar I am saving.

[oooo35980]

It's funny, when you described that I was thinking you had a Padron Ann. They can BE moist and such, but
they do look and act dry throughout a wide range of conditions. And sometimes they ARE just spicy and harsh.
But it sounds like conditions at the store were a joke. People DO steal those smokes a lot.

Oh dear, I would hate to think that cigar was supposed to taste like that, I'll be the only one on earth that thinks the Padron anni is a dog rocket. I'll pull out one of the Olivas and see what it's like.

[Subvet642]

Oh dear, I would hate to think that cigar was supposed to taste like that, I'll be the only one on earth that thinks the Padron anni is a dog rocket. I'll pull out one of the Olivas and see what it's like.

The one I had was like that.

[ApexAZ]

I don't understand all the hype with Padron's. I liked it, but I think my expectations were too high after all the raving about them. You'd think Jesus himself rolled it.

Shane -- What is HTF?

[fencefixer]

Don't you see this is a setup? You told your wife to prepare a smoke for you, you buy it at a store that's operated by another female.. and the smoke tastes crappy. Coincidence? I don't think so! :sl


:D

[Subvet642]

I don't understand all the hype with Padron's. I liked it, but I think my expectations were too high after all the raving about them. You'd think Jesus himself rolled it.

Shane -- What is HTF?

I recently had my first Padron x000 series(?), a 2000 maddie that I thought was worth three times what they go for.

[oooo35980]

Honestly if that cigar was supposed to be like that I'd have to question the sanity of some reviewers. There is just no way anyone could sit down with that and think "Man this is amazing".

[irratebass]

I don't understand all the hype with Padron's. I liked it, but I think my expectations were too high after all the raving about them. You'd think Jesus himself rolled it.

Shane -- What is HTF?

Answered for ya Shane......Hard To Find

[shilala]

Honestly if that cigar was supposed to be like that I'd have to question the sanity of some reviewers. There is just no way anyone could sit down with that and think "Man this is amazing".
You can't even consider a cigar that was kept the way this one was. It's much like reviewing a Marlboro you found down in the heater vent of the truck. :lr

[dwoodward]

Well even if the shop had them stored correctly, keep in mind. Many of us around here have had some 93 and 94 rated gems that we just didn't care for in the least bit.

Smoke what you like, like what you smoke. Just because the Padron Anni's are so highly reviewed, doesn't mean it's going to be your favorite as well.

Personally, one of the most solid sticks I have ever smoked, and I have had 6-7 of them now is a $0.80 cheapo handmade. It's not complex but good flavor and to me, that's good enough.

[yourchoice]

That is an awesome idea, I should have the wife pull out a stick for me.
She would have no idea what she is grabbing so it would be a true experiment other than me knowing what cigars are in there.

But she would learn the quantity of cigars! :r

[shilala]

I get what you're saying, Derrick. I enjoy lots of cheapos, too.
I've seen cigars that are so dry they crumble and ones that literally had yellow mushrooms growing on them. My point is that you can't smoke a cigar like that and consider it a representation of the marca any more than if you dipped a well-cared-for cigar in dogsh1t.
That's why we invest so much time and care in keeping our cigars properly. It's why we spend so many hours learning and fussing and wrestling to learn to keep our cigars properly.
If we go through all that and bypass it by buying a poorly kept cigar (no disrespect to Isaiah, he noticed the cigar was poorly kept), we're gonna get what we pay for. I'd have to look long and far to find a guy who's going to enjoy poorly kept, dried out crunchy cigars. That being the case, it's hard to employ "smoke what you like" in this case. :tu

[neoflex]

I'm more impressed with the fact that your wife will go and pick you out a stick and even cut it for you. I get resistance sometimes if I just ask for a drink.:r

[oooo35980]

I'm more impressed with the fact that your wife will go and pick you out a stick and even cut it for you. I get resistance sometimes if I just ask for a drink.:r

She's a wonderful woman, She fully supports my hobby and even sits down and smokes with me. Unfortunately she likes Acid's, Makers Mark, and any other overpriced infused stick. I think I'll keep her anyway though.

[dwoodward]

She's a wonderful woman, She fully supports my hobby and even sits down and smokes with me. Unfortunately she likes Acid's, Makers Mark, and any other overpriced infused stick. I think I'll keep her anyway though.

My woman is the same way. She likes CAO Flavors and ACID Blondies... lol

[Cornrow_Wallis]

She's a wonderful woman, She fully supports my hobby and even sits down and smokes with me. Unfortunately she likes Acid's, Makers Mark, and any other overpriced infused stick. I think I'll keep her anyway though.
You say that until she starts smoking all of your cigars, then you'll be wishing she would go back to the infused stuff. :r:r:r

[oooo35980]

You say that until she starts smoking all of your cigars, then you'll be wishing she would go back to the infused stuff. :r:r:r

Thing is, for the price of an Acid Kuba Kuba, I could replace my dried out Padron. For the price of that god awful MM thing she smoked yesterday, I could get a LP no9, or add a dollar and get 2 undercrowns. This is at my local shops of course, it is a bit different online, but still...

[BHalbrooks]

She's a wonderful woman, She fully supports my hobby and even sits down and smokes with me. Unfortunately she likes Acid's, Makers Mark, and any other overpriced infused stick. I think I'll keep her anyway though.

haha my Fiancee will sit by me unless the smell is too strong for her. She's a good Sport. The only unwritten rule is I gotta get her a blanket, since I sit in front of the open slider, and it's February in Massachusetts haha.

[oooo35980]

So I'm home for lunch and pulled out one of the Olivas, it is a bit dry, but not like that padron, the illusiones are also a bit dry, and neither of them has much smell. Maybe the Humidor is just a bit too dry and that in combination with a cigar seemingly known for dry harshness put me off. Either way I won't be buying from there again.

[LigaPrivadaT84]

Good point, I am actually too worried she will grab an HTF cigar I am saving.

Good excuse to buy another humidor?
:tu

[44stampede]

I just brought a buttload of these back to Asia including a Family Reserve and some '26 based on reviews. They better be good ;)

[Zanaspus]

When you start buying boxes you'll see that in every box there's at least one or two that doesn't fit the profile of the others. Tobacco is an agricultural product. We are all willing to accept that if we buy a big bag of oranges and all of them are sugar sweet while one or two are bit sour that it was a good purchase. IMHO the same holds true for cigars. I have had some boxes that were all the same profile, but they are in the minority. :2

[Skywalker]

That whole idea of the wife choosing and cutting a cigar... Hot!!!

Makes me think dirty thoughts! I think being blindfolded might enhance the experience!:D

[wayner123]

If that place is selling Padron Anni's, along with Illusione's they aren't your average supplier IMO. That leads me more to come down on the side of you just don't like Padron Anni's. And that's not a bad thing. Just think of all the dough you can save.

[oooo35980]

If that place is selling Padron Anni's, along with Illusione's they aren't your average supplier IMO. That leads me more to come down on the side of you just don't like Padron Anni's. And that's not a bad thing. Just think of all the dough you can save.

It is a high end Grocery store, they sell french cheese and Swiss chocolate and whatnot. If it was an actual shop I'd go in and say something. But all I'm likely to get if I do is a blank stare, like I got when I was buying them.

[oooo35980]

It wasn't the Padron. The others are way drier than I thought, wrapper is coming off of one of the illusiones and only thing holding it together is the band, didn't notice until I went to smoke it. Now I have to go buy another Padron...

[shilala]

It wasn't the Padron. The others are way drier than I thought, wrapper is coming off of one of the illusiones and only thing holding it together is the band, didn't notice until I went to smoke it. Now I have to go buy another Padron...
No you don't, Isaiah. PM me your address, I'll help you out.
One of my greatest joys are PAM maduros, they're incredibly good and incredibly consistant. I'll see to it that you get a good one (or two).
Then if you don't like them, you'll know you just don't like them. :tu
I think I might just have an Illusione maduro, too.

[Sonic04GT]

I like the idea of going at it with no expectations. Going to have to give that a shot.

[Fia]

Dont discount the pardron anni yet. It wasnt well cared for. I know exactly the store you are talking about. Honestly I wouldnt buy from there for a multitude of reasons, not properly humidified, tobacco beetles I have seen on 3 different occasions, and she doesnt smoke cigars so she cant tell you anything about them. For Padron Annis check out R. Fields or Tobaccos of Hawaii.

Have you been to swam in Aiea? They have a nice selection of quality, boutique brands and the owner Jill knows what they all taste like. Not to mention she is an expert in Wine and Scotch!

[shilala]

Isaiah took me up on my offer. I'll be getting his newsletter out to him asap. :tu

[hammondc]

I agree with the others here. Padron 26/64s are may absolute favorites. If you get another that is for sure in good shape and you still do not like it, then so be it. Different strokes for different folks. I, for one, do not see what the fanfare about Opus X is. I have a had a couple over the years and have never been impressed. However, I have never had one that was aged. maybe thats the problem.

[darkninja67]

Well even if the shop had them stored correctly, keep in mind. Many of us around here have had some 93 and 94 rated gems that we just didn't care for in the least bit.

Smoke what you like, like what you smoke. Just because the Padron Anni's are so highly reviewed, doesn't mean it's going to be your favorite as well.

Personally, one of the most solid sticks I have ever smoked, and I have had 6-7 of them now is a $0.80 cheapo handmade. It's not complex but good flavor and to me, that's good enough.
pretty much this.

the Padron Annis are some if not the most consistent cigars made anywhere.

[oooo35980]

Dont discount the pardron anni yet. It wasnt well cared for. I know exactly the store you are talking about. Honestly I wouldnt buy from there for a multitude of reasons, not properly humidified, tobacco beetles I have seen on 3 different occasions, and she doesnt smoke cigars so she cant tell you anything about them. For Padron Annis check out R. Fields or Tobaccos of Hawaii.

Have you been to swam in Aiea? They have a nice selection of quality, boutique brands and the owner Jill knows what they all taste like. Not to mention she is an expert in Wine and Scotch!

I love SWAM, well I did before they stopped carrying my 7-20-4s. Besides Tamura's it is the closest shop to me. The wife and I are taking a little road trip around the Island today and I'm planning on stopping in there for one of these (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=53356) I saw them last week but the artwork scared me off.

[Fia]

I love SWAM, well I did before they stopped carrying my 7-20-4s. Besides Tamura's it is the closest shop to me. The wife and I are taking a little road trip around the Island today and I'm planning on stopping in there for one of these (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=53356) I saw them last week but the artwork scared me off.

7-20-4 s are a great smoke. I could be wrong but it just may be that they were selling slow for them or maybe they were just out of stock and waiting to put in another order. Did you ask them? As for the Zulu Zulu make sure to try both blends. My fav being the Connecticut which is George Ricos daily cigar but I know others that like the Habano better.

Hmmm trip around the island...breakfast at Cinnamons or Boots and Kimos in Kailua, garlic shrimp in Kahuku for lunch, shave ice in Waikele (better than Matsumotos in Haleiwa), fried chicken at Taniokas in Waipahu for snack sounds about right!!! :D

[oooo35980]

They said they stopped carrying them because they were a tough sell :( R. Fields has some in sampler packs, but no singles or boxes. Guess I'll have to get them online with next paycheck's cigar allotment :D. They were my absolute favorite until I picked up an Undercrown from Tamuras.

[Fia]

They said they stopped carrying them because they were a tough sell :( R. Fields has some in sampler packs, but no singles or boxes. Guess I'll have to get them online with next paycheck's cigar allotment :D. They were my absolute favorite until I picked up an Undercrown from Tamuras.

Be on the lookout for the Undercrown Corona Viva in the next month or two. Best one in the line IMO. :)

[cigarmonkel]

That whole idea of the wife choosing and cutting a cigar... Hot!!!

Makes me think dirty thoughts! I think being blindfolded might enhance the experience!:D


:r too far? I bought a box of pan 64's about 3 or 4 years ago and there were a couple in there that i tossed at about the half way mark. The others though... well i'll let you discover the awesomeness when you get scott's "newsletter"

[Boz]

No you don't, Isaiah. PM me your address, I'll help you out.
One of my greatest joys are PAM maduros, they're incredibly good and incredibly consistant. I'll see to it that you get a good one (or two).
Then if you don't like them, you'll know you just don't like them. :tu
I think I might just have an Illusione maduro, too.

Isaiah took me up on my offer. I'll be getting his newsletter out to him asap. :tu

Well done Scott :l

[oooo35980]

Thanks to Scott, I can now say with 100% certainty that it was just one crappy dried out stick, and not that I don't like Padron. TY Scott

[Enphrared]

That is a very cool idea with the wife handin you a blind stick. It's funny you mentioned the bum being a Padron 1964 Aniv because about a month ago I bought one at the local b&m and it wasn't all that great. They're one of my favorite smokes, and I don't smoke them that often. Before last month I haven't had one since last spring and it was a dandy of stick. But, man have they fallen off the wagon or did I get a bum stick this time around?