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Reaver2145
02-13-2012, 08:38 PM
I just had my 15 ever gurkha tonight a assassin robusto and after a quick pre draw i though to myself "oh not again" yep it was plugged but i pressed on anyway trying to nurse it and after the half way mark it pretty much exploded on me.

So that went in the stinky and i got down to some thinking construction wise (or lack there of) is a gurkha the bastard child of the cuban montecristo line as both seem to churn out a ton of cigars both seem to have issues maintaining quality construction (13/15 of the gurkhas have either been plugged,soft,loose or exploded)

So dose anyone els find the Gurkhas to be inconsistent or am i just having a really bad run of luck and if i am can you suggest a good Gurkha with a flavour other than burning carpet maybe dark chocolate and spice with earthy notes like a nice montie edmundo.

BHalbrooks
02-13-2012, 08:40 PM
A LOT of guys on here hate Ghurkas. I've bought a couple boxes for $50, and I've had a couple of their Status, and the one infused with Cognac. I didn't have any problems. Maybe I'm really lucky?

dwoodward
02-13-2012, 08:43 PM
I have never had a clogged Gurkha... I have probably smoked more Gurkha cigars than any other manufacturers... I would check your B&M, maybe they are over humidifying...

pnoon
02-13-2012, 08:43 PM
I just had my 15 ever gurkha tonight a assassin robusto and after a quick pre draw i though to myself "oh not again" yep it was plugged but i pressed on anyway trying to nurse it and after the half way mark it pretty much exploded on me.

So that went in the stinky and i got down to some thinking construction wise (or lack there of) is a gurkha the bastard child of the cuban montecristo line as both seem to churn out a ton of cigars both seem to have issues maintaining quality construction (13/15 of the gurkhas have either been plugged,soft,loose or exploded)

So dose anyone els find the Gurkhas to be inconsistent or am i just having a really bad run of luck and if i am can you suggest a good Gurkha with a flavour other than burning carpet maybe dark chocolate and spice with earthy notes like a nice montie edmundo.

I'm not sure such a cigar exists. :D

I would respectfully suggest punctuation in your posts. Without it, it makes for a difficult read.

I find Cuban Montecristos to be of much higher quality in flavor and construction. Just one man's opinion.

Reaver2145
02-13-2012, 08:52 PM
Arr my introduction thread explains the spelling/grammar you dont have to be respectful about it it just sucks dont worry im not trying to torture your eyes.....or am i.

As for B&Ms it shouldn't be the problem Gurkha dosnt exist on the English market so i have to have them shipped from America and i make sure to store them for at least a month in my humi between 60-65% before smoking them.

lenguamor
02-13-2012, 08:54 PM
I'm not sure such a cigar exists. :D

I would respectfully suggest punctuation in your posts. Without it, it makes for a difficult read.

I find Cuban Montecristos to be of much higher quality in flavor and construction. Just one man's opinion.

:r

The things you see if you live long enough.

lenguamor
02-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Arr my introduction thread explains the spelling/grammar you dont have to be respectful about it it just sucks dont worry im not trying to torture your eyes.....or am i.

As for B&Ms it shouldn't be the problem Gurkha dosnt exist on the English market so i have to have them shipped from America and i make sure to store them for at least a month in my humi between 60-65% before smoking them.

You live in England and you're importing Gurkhas? Isn't that like living in Colombia and importing crystal meth?

pnoon
02-13-2012, 08:58 PM
Arr my introduction thread explains the spelling/grammar you dont have to be respectful about it it just sucks dont worry im not trying to torture your eyes.....or am i.

As for B&Ms it shouldn't be the problem Gurkha dosnt exist on the English market so i have to have them shipped from America and i make sure to store them for at least a month in my humi between 60-65% before smoking them.

I just read your intro and understand. I will be sure and read your posts carefully. :)

Reaver2145
02-13-2012, 09:02 PM
@lenguamor HAHA good point but no i like the change of pace of NC cigars there is nothing like it coming out of cuba just like there is nothing like a cuban coming out of any NC sticks.

@pnoon Dont worry its like learning Russian youll get the hang of it eventually or just drown yourself in vodka to make the pain go away.

jluck
02-13-2012, 09:03 PM
You live in England and you're importing Gurkha's? Isn't that like living in Colombia and importing crystal meth?

Best post ever....:r:r:r

I never expected to see Gurkha's compared to Monte's! maybe VS or reyes...

pnoon
02-13-2012, 09:05 PM
@lenguamor HAHA good point but no i like the change of pace of NC cigars there is nothing like it coming out of cuba just like there is nothing like a cuban coming out of any NC sticks.

@pnoon Dont worry its like learning Russian youll get the hang of it eventually or just drown yourself in gin to make the pain go away.

Fixed your post for you. :al

JenksAnejo
02-13-2012, 09:05 PM
Gurkha's? Come on man!

Bill86
02-13-2012, 09:07 PM
@lenguamor HAHA good point but no i like the change of pace of NC cigars there is nothing like it coming out of cuba just like there is nothing like a cuban coming out of any NC sticks.

@pnoon Dont worry its like learning Russian youll get the hang of it eventually or just drown yourself in vodka to make the pain go away.

These are great points.

ApexAZ
02-13-2012, 09:07 PM
I've only bought some of the gurkha's found on Cigar Bid, which I'm not sure are even part of their normal line you would find in an actual shop. Few have been plugged. There's only 1 that I really didn't care for, the rest have been decent for how cheap they were. Their wrappers kind of irk me though.

Reaver2145
02-13-2012, 09:13 PM
Fixed your post for you. :al

Gin you say ill crack out the Hendricks then.

pnoon
02-13-2012, 09:14 PM
Gin you say ill crack out the Hendricks then.

Love me some Hendricks.
Do you enjoy/follow football?

Reaver2145
02-13-2012, 09:20 PM
Love me some Hendricks.
Do you enjoy/follow football?

English or American

Cos i support Chelsea nothing like having a crook for a boss but my real interest in good old rugby.

pnoon
02-13-2012, 09:22 PM
English or American

Cos i support Chelsea nothing like having a crook for a boss but my real interest in good old rugby.

English, of course. That is real football.
Liverpool supporter here. Hate Man-****ing-U. Not fond of Arsenal either.

44stampede
02-13-2012, 09:29 PM
I am a newbie for sure but almost every Gurkha I have smoked has been bad to real bad. THe exception was the Legend Series VI I got from Cigar Bid. It is decent for the price (not great). From the amount I have learned from the guys and gals on this site and tasting a bunch, I would not buy another Gurkha. Unfortunately I learned that after buying a bunch. I still have to find a place for 20+ of my stash that I can't bear to light up.

I wouldn't compare them to a Cuban MC. I have had some not burn well of my MC 4s but overall quality is pretty good and the taste was consistent.

44stampede
02-13-2012, 09:31 PM
English, of course. That is real football.
Liverpool supporter here. Hate Man-****ing-U. Not fond of Arsenal either.
Sucks about this last game then eh? ;)

My good buddy is a Liverpool fan and I love busting his balls at their mediocrity.

Reaver2145
02-13-2012, 09:33 PM
English, of course. That is real football.
Liverpool supporter here. Hate Man-****ing-U. Not fond of Arsenal either.

Liverpool lol thats a good joke.

jjmitchem
02-13-2012, 09:33 PM
I've had a few good Gurkhas, a few bad Gurkhas and one or two great Gurkhas. My wife even bought me the Spec Ops box of Gurkhas and had them shipped to me in Iraq. My favorite so far is the Red Dragon ( sent to me by Hotreds)

But, with that being said, I think their customer relations is lacking. I jumped on the opportunity to be part of the Gurkha Tasters Club (where we were supposed to be getting monthly cigars to try and post reviews). This lasted for about a month, after a pretty extensive screening process, and then all contact ended. Six months later, after we had all begged for some acknowledgement, they respond that they are not going to do this anymore

A group of Gurkha fans and not even any contact for that length of time. Needless to say, I have been turned off slightly.

pnoon
02-13-2012, 09:35 PM
Sucks about this last game then eh? ;)

My good buddy is a Liverpool fan and I love busting his balls at their mediocrity.
Last game was painful.
But losing to ManU at Old Trafford is nothing to hang your head about. It's the draws or losses against Swansea, Norwich, Wigan, Stoke and the like that are REALLY painful.

Reaver2145
02-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Not really painful betfred do some pretty good odds on how badly they will loose.

icehog3
02-13-2012, 11:26 PM
I have never had a clogged Gurkha.

I only wish the Gurkhas I have tried had been plugged.

NCRadioMan
02-13-2012, 11:29 PM
I only wish the Gurkhas I have tried had been plugged.

If that were the case, we wouldn't have such iconic pictures. :tu

NCRadioMan
02-13-2012, 11:32 PM
I've had a few good Gurkhas, a few bad Gurkhas and one or two great Gurkhas. My wife even bought me the Spec Ops box of Gurkhas and had them shipped to me in Iraq. My favorite so far is the Red Dragon ( sent to me by Hotreds)

But, with that being said, I think their customer relations is lacking. I jumped on the opportunity to be part of the Gurkha Tasters Club (where we were supposed to be getting monthly cigars to try and post reviews). This lasted for about a month, after a pretty extensive screening process, and then all contact ended. Six months later, after we had all begged for some acknowledgement, they respond that they are not going to do this anymore

A group of Gurkha fans and not even any contact for that length of time. Needless to say, I have been turned off slightly.

That sux, Chappy! I know how much you enjoy the brand so that's like a :gary

icehog3
02-13-2012, 11:39 PM
If that were the case, we wouldn't have such iconic pictures. :tu

If I knew what iconic meant, I would be very angry. Or flattered. Or indifferent.


Hi Chutney! :D

pnoon
02-13-2012, 11:41 PM
If I knew what iconic meant, I would be very angry. Or flattered. Or indifferent.


Hi Chutney! :D
That would be Mr. Lovebiscuit to you.

icehog3
02-13-2012, 11:43 PM
That would be Mr. Lovebiscuit to you.

That would be Mr. Ginormadouche to you. ;)

44stampede
02-13-2012, 11:54 PM
I only wish the Gurkhas I have tried had been plugged.

:r:r:r:r

NCRadioMan
02-14-2012, 02:12 AM
Hi Chutney! :D

:al Admiral! :salute:



That would be Mr. Lovebiscuit to you.

Well brother, since he is a DB of the highest order, it can slide. Thanks for having my back. :chr :cool2:

FNA
02-14-2012, 10:14 AM
I have not had any issues with plugged Gurkhas and I have smoked rather more than 15.

That said, I have had uneven burn problems on almost every perfecto vitola from Gurkha.

I recall no burn or draw problems with any parejos - no wait, there's a box-pressed toro with green and red in the band, they have boated I think I remember. But the large formats (7.5 inch and up) have smoked very well.

I generally like the flavors Gurkha offers. I think these cigars really have to be bought at auction as the MSRP is just too high.

oooo35980
02-14-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm confused, maybe because I'm relatively new to the hobby, but what exactly is it about Gurkha that seems to draw the ire of a majority of the smoking community. I had one yesterday that was almost totally unmemorable, either bad or good. I was half expecting it to explode in a cloud of nerve gas when I lit it after reading these boards for a while.

Reaver2145
02-14-2012, 12:57 PM
I think its because us cigar smokers must be in some way related to crows as they have real shiny bands that are real nice to "collect"

oooo35980
02-14-2012, 01:02 PM
I think its because us cigar smokers must be in some way related to crows as they have real shiny bands that are real nice to "collect"

Wouldn't that make them well liked though?

Zanaspus
02-14-2012, 01:19 PM
I think you meant your title to be; "Gurkha, the Guantanamera of NCs?" :tf

Reaver2145
02-14-2012, 01:25 PM
I think you meant your title to be; "Gurkha, the Guantanamera of NCs?" :tf

NOOOO guantanimos have the bonus of being cheap awful but cheap none of the less.

DaBear
02-14-2012, 01:40 PM
I'm confused, maybe because I'm relatively new to the hobby, but what exactly is it about Gurkha that seems to draw the ire of a majority of the smoking community. I had one yesterday that was almost totally unmemorable, either bad or good. I was half expecting it to explode in a cloud of nerve gas when I lit it after reading these boards for a while.

For the most part they tend to be vastly overpriced for the stick they are. For example, the Cellar Reserve isn't a bad stick, but for 1/3 the price I can pick up a Perdomo Lot 23 with the same exact flavors and just as good(if not better) construction. If the Cellar Reserve was only a buck or two more than a Lot 23 I could justify grabbing one every now and then for a change of pace, but I'm not going to pay $12 for something I can get for $4

:2

Also, I'm not a fan of their advertising practices, but you can PM me if you want to know about that.

icehog3
02-14-2012, 02:20 PM
Smoke what you like, like what you smoke.

If you like Gurkhas, good deal. You can grab my portion with my blessing.

Skywalker
02-14-2012, 03:03 PM
Reaver2145 - Making friends and influencing people!:rolleyes:

ChicagoWhiteSox
02-14-2012, 03:07 PM
Yum Gurkhas, the lovely taste of metal and top soil:r

maninblack
02-14-2012, 03:09 PM
I always felt Gurkha's were the Gurkha's of the NC world, really not much else to compare them to. Taste like sh!t, smoke like sh!t. But like what you smoke, smoke what you like.

44stampede
02-14-2012, 08:28 PM
I always felt Gurkha's were the Gurkha's of the NC world, really not much else to compare them to. Taste like sh!t, smoke like sh!t. But like what you smoke, smoke what you like.
This.
By the way I asked the same question about "why is everyone so hard on these smokes here". Then I smoked the cuban selection.
Again, if these sticks were a buck each it would be different but they weren't. I got suckered by the ads and reviews on a large cigar site. The reviews part really bothers me as people were saying these were the sticks they put away for special occasions! If that is true, holy shite. These poor bastards. I just don't think they are legit (can't be with some of the flavors I taste in it)

maninblack
02-14-2012, 08:38 PM
K. Hansotia is a marketing genius because he keeps putting crap out on the market and people keep buying them. Maybe I'm just a snob, but I don't think so. Of course some people would say the same about Pete Johnson.

pnoon
02-14-2012, 08:41 PM
K. Hansotia is a marketing genius because he keeps putting crap out on the market and people keep buying them. Maybe I'm just a snob, but I don't think so. Of course some people would say the same about Pete Johnson.
True. Except PJ's cigars are far from crap. I'm not a huge fan of his cigars but I do recognize they are of high quality. Gurkhas on the other hand . . .

maninblack
02-14-2012, 08:44 PM
Yeah I love Pete's smokes. I'm just saying each manufacturer has their detractors. But I honestly feel Pete puts alot of heart and soul and hard work into his blends. Hansotia just throws something together and calls it gold. Like that cognac infused crap he came out with.

chippewastud79
02-14-2012, 09:23 PM
But I honestly feel Pete puts alot of heart and soul and hard work into his blends.

:hm With all those 'special releases' and 'exclusives' and 'an elite club'.

oooo35980
02-14-2012, 09:27 PM
Just finished the cellar reserve, good not great, should have bought a couple more undercrowns instead. Oh well.

Emjaysmash
02-14-2012, 09:51 PM
:hm With all those 'special releases' and 'exclusives' and 'an elite club'.

What cigar company doesn't do that?

Bill86
02-14-2012, 10:01 PM
What cigar company doesn't do that?

I think he means the shear quantity of the limited releases and shop exclusives. Also I don't think there are too many cigar companies with a "membership club".

Emjaysmash
02-14-2012, 10:04 PM
I think he means the shear quantity of the limited releases and shop exclusives. Also I don't think there are too many cigar companies with a "membership club".

I get that but look at DPG, Rocky Patel, Fuente, hell even Padron has B&M exclusives and "special editions". PJ's fan club isn't exclusive-its not like you need to pass a prerequisite to gain entrance- all you need is $150. Whats so wrong about a fan club anyway?

ChicagoWhiteSox
02-14-2012, 10:05 PM
I think he means the shear quantity of the limited releases and shop exclusives. Also I don't think there are too many cigar companies with a "membership club".

Not only that, but considering the shear quantity, you'd have to imagine there's a lot of 'throw a new band on an old cigar' type of thing going on and call it "limited". Just my thought though.

maninblack
02-15-2012, 09:11 AM
Again, if you don't have the $150 to spend on the S & S membership, then don't whine about those that do or complain that he has a "fan" club. People buy into what he's selling. Why? Because he makes great smokes. Rant over. I need my coffee.

ChicagoWhiteSox
02-15-2012, 10:16 AM
Again, if you don't have the $150 to spend on the S & S membership, then don't whine about those that do or complain that he has a "fan" club. People buy into what he's selling. Why? Because he makes great smokes. Rant over. I need my coffee.

No one was whining about those people who "buy" into PJ's "fan" club. I think I know why Bill mentioned it though.

maninblack
02-15-2012, 10:26 AM
So do I. Everytime PJ's name is mentioned, Bill is there. But thats what makes this site great. We all have differing opinions and can keep it civil. Most of the time.

ChicagoWhiteSox
02-15-2012, 10:53 AM
So do I. Everytime PJ's name is mentioned, Bill is there. But thats what makes this site great. We all have differing opinions and can keep it civil. Most of the time.

Not everyone buys into the gimmicks for average cigars at best with price tags that are insane. I don't, and many people here don't. However, I thought the original P series was a good cigar with an appropriate price tag. That's an outlier though:D

maninblack
02-15-2012, 11:02 AM
Viaje does the same thing Pete does, if not worse. Andre Farkas is also good at marketing, but most of his smokes are lacking in areas. IMHO.

Islayphile
02-15-2012, 11:04 AM
If paper mache thin wrappers and totally flavorless cigars are your thing, then I say Gurkha is for you!

Now all you have to do is pick a blend

There's only eleventy billion of them.

I bet Kaizad can't even remember them all.

Blak Smyth
02-15-2012, 11:07 AM
So dose anyone els find the Gurkhas to be inconsistent or am i just having a really bad run of luck and if i am can you suggest a good Gurkha with a flavour other than burning carpet maybe dark chocolate and spice with earthy notes like a nice montie edmundo.

I found the few Gurkhas I smoked very consistent... consistently not good!
Never really had any construction issues, just never really had any good flavors and left my mouth feeling stale.

thechrisdotcom
02-15-2012, 11:32 AM
Love Gurkhas, best cigar out there, hands down.

maninblack
02-15-2012, 11:35 AM
I knew there were Gurkha fans on here. Just not that many.

LigaPrivadaT84
02-15-2012, 11:39 AM
Have not experiences any construction issues with either brand, but I'd pick a NC Montecristo over a Gurkha any day. I actually enjoy the white labels very much and try to stock a few if the price is right.
:tu

Islayphile
02-15-2012, 11:39 AM
Love Gurkhas, best cigar out there, hands down.

Wanna narrow down which ones for us?

I don't think you'll crash the board trying to list them all....on second thought

;)

thechrisdotcom
02-15-2012, 12:01 PM
Wanna narrow down which ones for us?

I don't think you'll crash the board trying to list them all....on second thought

;)
all of them! :r

Islayphile
02-15-2012, 12:47 PM
Wanna narrow down which ones for us?

I don't think you'll crash the board trying to list them all....on second thought

;)

all of them! :r

:D

ApexAZ
02-15-2012, 12:54 PM
I think the $3 gurkhas you can get on the auction sites are pretty decent for $3, but not for $12. No where even close to $12. I have never had an expensive Gurkha from a B&M though. I think mainly 'cause I can get them for $3 online. Based on what people say about them, it seems like they aren't worth more than $3 anyways, so why pay more?

lenguamor
02-15-2012, 01:20 PM
I think Gurkha is like Amway; the product is an afterthought to the marketing.

Reaver2145
02-15-2012, 02:01 PM
I think Gurkha is like Amway; the product is an afterthought to the marketing.

Monti Opens

Doctorossi
02-15-2012, 02:12 PM
Monti Opens

... are not representative of the marca.