Am I being too picky? (picture heavy)

[ysr_racer]

I recently bought (and returned) an expensive handmade humidor. I saw pictures of it online, and thought it looked nice.

It was advertised as a handmade hardwood humidor. When I got it the first thing I noticed was the box it came in was used three previous times. If he's saving trees, OK. If he's not, it's shoddy.

Next was the packing material used. It looked like it was a bunch of crap he had laying around the shop. Foam peanuts, cardboard, and a broken up Styrofoam cooler. Again, if he's saving trees, OK. If he's not, it's shoddy.

When I opened it up the first thing I saw was how the lid fit. Actually it didn't. But here's the crazy part, it's made that way due to the hinges not being countersunk. Next up was the writing on the magnetic strips that hold the humidifier. Again, shoddy.

And last but not least, it's a hardwood outside around a pine box, not a hardwood box.

When I called the maker he said I was the only person that complained, and he's sold many like this. He told me it wouldn't leak. I told him it looks like **** and I'm sending it back.

Am I being too picky?

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[ysr_racer]

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[emopunker2004]

nope. i think i would have done the same thing. my :2

[Volusianator]

Get rid of that thing!

[kingcobradude]

I would have returned it. its built like crap

[pektel]

Ouch. Yeah, that does not look quality. But, two real questions... Where did this come from? And what was the price?
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[Zeuceone]

is that a sponge incased in wood?

[ysr_racer]

Ouch. Yeah, that does not look quality. But, two real questions... Where did this come from? And what was the price?
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About $500

is that a sponge incased in wood?

Yes, yes it is.

[Volusianator]

About $500
Whoa...yeah, return that sucker!



Yes, yes it is.
Yep, floral foam = mold magnet

[Volusianator]

There's your answer!

It was Charles Tedder. http://ctdovetaildesigns.com/




Where did this come from?

[emopunker2004]

About $500

[i]

Yes, yes it is.

yeh. i'd go waxing moon next time...

[Bigbaldbob]

The fitment looks horrible. A humming bird could make thru that gap. Hope you have better luck on the next one.

[Zeuceone]

The fitment looks horrible. A humming bird could make thru that gap. Hope you have better luck on the next one.

as long as it doesnt smoke cigars, then he should be ok.

[chippewastud79]

I would just hope you can get your money back from that thing :td

[kelmac07]

Smart move returning that Brad...looks like she'd leak for sure. That "gap" just screams NO SEAL.

[MurphysLaw]

I'd have done the same thing Brad, seems pretty shoddy all the way around with that guy

[Remo]

Smart move on the return :tu If you really want a custom one send me a PM, I bet my buddy has time, he has done mine and is just about done with Frank's and Andrew's and they are bad@ss.

My coffin Humi :tu

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[NCRadioMan]

Weak! An amateur could do better than that. Geez, you can get any regular humidor of that size with much better quality for $50.

About the packing material, as long as it gets to you undamaged from shipping, I don't think it matters what cushioned the product.

[irratebass]

wow, thanks for the pics, amazing that he actually sold this thing...sorry bro, return it for a full refund.

[ysr_racer]

About the packing material, as long as it gets to you undamaged from shipping, I don't think it matters what cushioned the product.

Agreed, it just shows the level of attention to detail.

I've already returned it. If I don't get a refund, I'll contact my credit card company.

[Lanks85]

Sorry to hear about the humidor. It looked really nice in the pics you had up a couple weeks ago. For $500 there should be NO sacrifices needed and you should have exactly what you want. Smart move on returning it. I'm sure you will find something better. Best of luck.

[Hockey4life]

Guys

This is my first post on this forum and sorry it might be a bit long. I'm the builder of Mike's, Andrew's and Frank's humidors. I’ve also built two other humidors for friends and countless keepsake boxes, just never turned them into humidors.

I think I have only smoked......3 cigars in my life and I know what you guys are saying right about now!!!! I have this little deterrent called Asthma that does not mix well with cigars, but when I have smoked them I just tell my wife I'm conducting "research." Of course she laughs when I take a puff from a cigar and then a puff from an inhaler. So point being, I'm not all that familiar with cigars.

I am familiar with woodworking though, so here is my opinion coming from a builder. I don't know this guy who built this humidor nor would I ever criticize someone else’s work. But I’m just guessing that this is an example of when a hobby becomes a business. You start cutting corners to get the work out and done quicker. I have a disclaimer that I give to anyone who wants a humidor and that is that I cannot be held to a time line. I have career and family that has to come first. Woodworking comes second.

So again my opinion coming from a builder. You are absolutely right that the hinges should be recessed into the base of the humidor. By doing just that, the lid would fit flat and flush to the base and you probably may not have sent the humidor back as fast. The problem with recessing the hinges is that it takes time and set-up and again you cut corners because this is a hobby that is mutating into a business.

Second, from the pictures it looks like he has veneered the hard wood to the soft wood. If in fact the soft wood used as a substrate is pine (although it looks a little like Poplar) it's a very poor choice unless it's very straight grained. I prefer to use MDF or plywood as a substrate. It's not as affected by moisture, stays flatter and usually will not warp. Just curious what species of hardwood he used on the outside? All the humidors I have built are solid wood. I have veneered some pieces, but the bulk of the humidor is solid wood with the Spanish cedar lining.

If you are interested in another humidor, let me know. I can also send pictures

Hope you do get the money back. Good luck

[Mattso3000]

Aaron, you should post an intro. I've seen a lot of pics of the work you have done with Mike and Andrew and those are some of the best custom work I've seen.

[Hockey4life]

Stupid question, when you say intro? how do I go about doing that? Also Andrew (DPD6030) just posted pictures of his

[Remo]

Go to the new inmate processing area bro :tu Click onthe CA banner at top of page.

[ysr_racer]

I don't know anything about wood working, but I did take wood-shop in Jr. High school back in the early 70's (Old Orchard Jr. High, Skokie IL) and that wouldn't have passed even back then.

As I said, I've already returned it and am awaiting my refund.

[Sonic04GT]

The writing on the magnets hahahaha That looks so tacky.

Looks like a nice design, but needs some work.

[Ncpsycho]

Smart move on the return :tu If you really want a custom one send me a PM, I bet my buddy has time, he has done mine and is just about done with Frank's and Andrew's and they are bad@ss.

My coffin Humi :tu

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Thats sick bro how much did that run you.....

[Ncpsycho]

Ive never seen a little cedar inside of pine inside of hardwood ----- really bad and he has the balls to charge $500 wow

[Remo]

Thats sick bro how much did that run you.....

Mine was cheaper as Aaron is my friend and co-worker, and no shipping involved, not sure what Andrew's "Thin blue line" was or Frank's massive "Pirate Chest" you'd need to contact Aaron.

[Marlon K]

I would send it back to

[IndyRob]

Wow, I'm shocked anyone would actually try to sell that with a straight face. Whatever happened to having some pride in ones work?

[nofeardiver]

Smart move on the return :tu If you really want a custom one send me a PM, I bet my buddy has time, he has done mine and is just about done with Frank's and Andrew's and they are bad@ss.

My coffin Humi :tu

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that thing still looks awesome everytime i see it...

[Remo]

that thing still looks awesome everytime i see it...

Thanks Dan, I enjoy it!

[68TriShield]

500 you say? I wonder how he came up with that figure.

[ktblunden]

That's absolutely ridiculous. I wouldn't be satisfied with a gap like that on a chinese mass-produced humidor for $50, let alone on a supposedly handmade custom for $500. Waxing Moon will run you less for something the same size (probably a little larger too) and the quality and attention to detail is amazing.

[longknocker]

That's absolutely ridiculous. I wouldn't be satisfied with a gap like that on a chinese mass-produced humidor for $50, let alone on a supposedly handmade custom for $500. Waxing Moon will run you less for something the same size (probably a little larger too) and the quality and attention to detail is amazing.

Very True! I Still Love Mine That Ed Built!:tu

[Sonic04GT]

Holy crap, just saw you spent $500 on that. I'd have that thing in the mail before I even blinked again.

[Crownedone]

I hope everything works out.

[Dr Voss]

I have to agree with what I have read here. If it were a x-mas gift from your brother in law the hobby woodworker it's beautiful. For $500 from a "professional" it's not even close. Send that sucker back.

[cmacclel]

I would have sent it back myself. Quality these days is so down hill :( I bought a Lucky 7 humidor and for "Made in China" product it's not bad. The first traditional stlyle humidor I purchased sent back to do the veneer peeling off.

Mac

[ysr_racer]

I have to agree with what I have read here. If it were a x-mas gift from your brother in law the hobby woodworker it's beautiful. For $500 from a "professional" it's not even close. Send that sucker back.

DV, I think you hit the nail on the head. I could do half-baked job myself (for a lot less).

[jsnake]

You are not being too picky. You are investing a lot of money into this and you want what you paid for. Not to mention that this will house your investment in cigars and if it does not function properly and is not what you expected by all means I agree with you.

[hdryder]

Smart move on the return :tu If you really want a custom one send me a PM, I bet my buddy has time, he has done mine and is just about done with Frank's and Andrew's and they are bad@ss.

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[kydsid]

I have to agree with what I have read here. If it were a x-mas gift from your brother in law the hobby woodworker it's beautiful. For $500 from a "professional" it's not even close. Send that sucker back.


Maybe I'm just an a-hole but even if it was from my brother-in-law I'd send it back! That thing couldn't be used as a humidor and would be useless to me as anything else cause that gap would annoy the hell out of me.

[ysr_racer]

If you've got anything else to add, do it now. I'm going to email him a link to this thread, tomorrow.

[Remo]

You get a refund yet?

[pektel]

If you've got anything else to add, do it now. I'm going to email him a link to this thread, tomorrow.

I would see if you can get your refund before doing that. Has he flat out refused to refund you? I'm not sure a link to a thread where everyone is blasting his work would be beneficial.

If you start on the offensive too strong out the gate, he may tell you to shove it. If this guy is not an actual business, I don't really know how much leverage you actually have.

Just something to think about.

[Remo]

I would see if you can get your refund before doing that. Has he flat out refused to refund you? I'm not sure a link to a thread where everyone is blasting his work would be beneficial.

If you start on the offensive too strong out the gate, he may tell you to shove it. If this guy is not an actual business, I don't really know how much leverage you actually have.

Just something to think about.

This. That's why I asked if you had gotten a refund yet. Thanks for clearing that up Peter.

[poker]

I would see if you can get your refund before doing that. Has he flat out refused to refund you? I'm not sure a link to a thread where everyone is blasting his work would be beneficial....

I have to agree 100%. Get your refund first

[Flounder]

Maybe I'm just an a-hole but even if it was from my brother-in-law I'd send it back! That thing couldn't be used as a humidor and would be useless to me as anything else cause that gap would annoy the hell out of me.

If it was from family, I'd keep it, just probably wouldn't use it for cigars, but other odds and ends.

[pnoon]

I'm not sure a link to this thread would accomplish anything. Even after a refund.

What would be gained by showing him that others have jumped on the bashing bandwagon?

I agree the quality is sub-standard and a refund is warranted but showing him this thread is pointless.
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[shilala]

I can toss in my 2 cents, I suppose.
I highly doubt the interior is pine. Pine is aromatic. A guy would have to be retarded to use pine in a humi. Poplar or birch is fine, it's non-aromatic but it's softwood.
I can see why he laminated the poplar? to the paduak, it's because paduak is CRAZY expensive. Ebony is out of this world expensive.
Because I work with the stuff and buy wood, I'd know it was impossible to build that box of solid paduak for the price you paid. The material alone would be close to that price (if not more) if it was made of solid hardwoods.

Setting in stop hinges takes time, but they're easy. I do it by hand with a chisel. The best corner hinges are side/back or corner stop hinges like this I use 4 screw ones in brass)...

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They require tons of setup, lots of time, and are sheer hell to install. It's what you want in a humi, though. If it's a wide solid hardwood humi, the lid will be very heavy and you have to add a couple flat stop hinges (like you got) in addition to corner hinges or screews will tear out and the lid will fall off.

If a guy builds a humidor from solid hardwood and hinges and recessed mating surfaces, it's is 100% impossible to get a 100% water-tight, air-tight seal. I like to mate surfaces and use foam and some sort of positive latch. That way they become zero maintenance. Sometimes it looks good, sometimes not, so I've decided to do things a whole different way. I'm just playing, though, looking for my own design that I'm personally pleased with that I'd be proud to offer and gift to people.
That's not to say that a guy can't get a very good or perfectly usable seal using conventional humi-building techniques, it's just that I personally shoot for 100% airtight so there's almost zero maintenance. 99% isn't good enough for me because I'm nuts, even though it makes no real-world difference.

That box is real close to being worth every dime you paid for it. Were the hinges set in, you'd have your money's worth. The guy cut a corner that shouldn't be cut, that's all. I'm sure any customers would pay an extra 20 bucks for the time proper fitment would take. He just made a silly move. It happens.

Handmade quality takes tons of time. The guy didn't do a bad job, not by a longshot.
And the humi is well worth what you paid.
I think you're right in sending it back. I wouldn't accept it in it's present condition, either. Nor would I send one out in that condition (speaking strictly on the hinges).
I can't really assess the quality of the handwork, but it really doesn't look bad in your pics, and the humi has a lot of touches that require extra time. So like I said, it's worth the money right up to where he flunked out on the hinges.

To make a solid hardwood, top-flight, heirloom piece in that size range, you'd be hard-pressed to find something at twice the price. I just mention that to explain the market he's shooting at. I think you deserve and want a little bit better for your money, but you're going to have to spend a little more to get it. Expect to pay $800-$1200 for something around that size, solid hardwood, with medium respect to handwork and fitment and finish.

I hope that helps!!! :tu
Scott

[Volusianator]

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I can toss in my 2 cents, I suppose.
I highly doubt the interior is pine. Pine is aromatic. A guy would have to be retarded to use pine in a humi. Poplar or birch is fine, it's non-aromatic but it's softwood.
I can see why he laminated the poplar? to the paduak, it's because paduak is CRAZY expensive. Ebony is out of this world expensive.
Because I work with the stuff and buy wood, I'd know it was impossible to build that box of solid paduak for the price you paid. The material alone would be close to that price (if not more) if it was made of solid hardwoods.

Setting in stop hinges takes time, but they're easy. I do it by hand with a chisel. The best corner hinges are side/back or corner stop hinges like this I use 4 screw ones in brass)...

http://www.ianhastie.com/images/HD-680.gif

They require tons of setup, lots of time, and are sheer hell to install. It's what you want in a humi, though. If it's a wide solid hardwood humi, the lid will be very heavy and you have to add a couple flat stop hinges (like you got) in addition to corner hinges or screews will tear out and the lid will fall off.

If a guy builds a humidor from solid hardwood and hinges and recessed mating surfaces, it's is 100% impossible to get a 100% water-tight, air-tight seal. I like to mate surfaces and use foam and some sort of positive latch. That way they become zero maintenance. Sometimes it looks good, sometimes not, so I've decided to do things a whole different way. I'm just playing, though, looking for my own design that I'm personally pleased with that I'd be proud to offer to people.
That's not to say that a guy can't get a very good or perfectly usable seal using conventional humi-building techniques, it's just that I personally shoot for 100% airtight so there's almost zero maintenance.

That box is real close to being worth every dime you paid for it. Were the hinges set in, you'd have your money's worth. The guy cut a corner that shouldn't be cut, that's all. I'm sure any customers would pay an extra 20 bucks for the time proper fitment would take. He just made a silly move. It happens.

Handmade quality takes tons of time. The guy didn't do a bad job, not by a longshot.
And the humi is well worth what you paid.
I think you're right in sending it back. I wouldn't accept it in it's present condition, either. Nor would I send one out in that condition (speaking strictly on the hinges).
I can't really assess the quality of the handwork, but it really doesn't look bad in your pics, and the humi has a lot of touches that require extra time. So like I said, it's worth the money right up to where he flunked out on the hinges.

To make a solid hardwood, top-flight, heirloom piece in that size range, you'd be hard-pressed to find something at twice the price. I just mention that to explain the market he's shooting at. I think you deserve and want a little bit better for your money, but you're going to have to spend a little more to get it. Expect to pay $800-$1200 for something around that size, solid hardwood, with medium respect to handwork and fitment and finish.

I hope that helps!!! :tu
Scott

[ysr_racer]

To make a solid hardwood, top-flight, heirloom piece in that size range, you'd be hard-pressed to find something at twice the price. I just mention that to explain the market he's shooting at. I think you deserve and want a little bit better for your money, but you're going to have to spend a little more to get it. Expect to pay $800-$1200 for something around that size, solid hardwood, with medium respect to handwork and fitment and finish.

I hope that helps!!! :tu
Scott

Hi Scott,

It was close, real close but the lid was the deal breaker. His craftsmanship was really good, but his design sucks.

I paid with a credit card, and he already has the box back, so if he doesn't refund me, I'll handle it thru Visa.

[shilala]

Hi Scott,

It was close, real close but the lid was the deal breaker. His craftsmanship was really good, but his design sucks.

I paid with a credit card, and he already has the box back, so if he doesn't refund me, I'll handle it thru Visa.
I wish you could have run it by. We could have set in the hinges and you'd be good to go. I wish I'd have seen this earlier, I could have fixed her up for you.
Best of luck with the rest of the deal, I hope you don't have a hard time getting your money back!!! :tu

[RRocket]

I wish you could have run it by. We could have set in the hinges and you'd be good to go. I wish I'd have seen this earlier, I could have fixed her up for you.
Best of luck with the rest of the deal, I hope you don't have a hard time getting your money back!!! :tu

But that's not the point. You spend premium money on a humidor, you shouldn't have to send it to a 3rd party to "fix her up". That's the whole point of spending extra..for premium $$, I expect premium material and craftsmanship on a humidor that I can use immediately.

[Garbandz]

Adequate skill for a shed,woefully short of an artist............

[ysr_racer]

The reality is he was close, real close. He spent a lot of time and money on it, but in the end it was like Leonardo da Vinci painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa.

Great painting if it didn't have a mustache :)

Same thing here. Great box if the lid fit correctly.

The fact the it came shipped and packed with used materials just shows a lack of pride in your work. The writing on the magnets shows a lack of attention to detail.

I don't know if the box took two hours, two days, two months or two years to build. The top is half-a$$ed.

I'm guessing you guys are right about the poplar wood, but shouldn't the whole box be lined with cedar?

What if I didn't want to use the tray?

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[shilala]

All the pinkish wood in the lid and the rails that hold the slats and the trays are cedar, Brad. Nice, solid, thick cedar, too. Generally you'll get 1/32" veneer in humis that's over particle board.
If anything, in my opinion, there's an over-adequate amount of cedar in there. Completely depends on how much you like your smokes to taste like cedar, and how aromatic the wood is. Spanish Cedar varies in it's intensity and varies in it's aroma. I try to match the thickness and amount I use to give a flavor, but not overpower, if that makes sense.
It's easy to do when you're lining, because you can adjust the thickness of cedar in the lid and bottom to suit.
It helps to buy your wood and have it around for a good while, too. That way the cedar teaches you how it's going to smell and how much you should use.
Your guys used tons of cedar. :tu

[ysr_racer]

In this picture, shouldn't the cedar in the box (not the top) go all the way to the top?

As I said, what if I didn't want to use the tray? I've never seen a humidor that was only lined half way up.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL856/883856/23969054/399997929.jpg

[shilala]

In that last pic, the slats inside the humi look like poplar or birch, too. That's a nice idea, both aesthetically and structurally.
Cedar doesn't lend itself to make good structural components. It's very soft and very weak. If the slide-in slats were made of cedar they'd probably break the first time you pulled them out. :)
I like the contrast, too. :tu

One other thing I hadn't noticed from before is that the hinges aren't mounted inside, they're face mounted on the back. That's even odder and it totally takes the functionality out of the design.
I'll explain...
The back bottom of the lid is beveled. The top back of the bottom is beveled. The reason for that is so that when you open the humidor, those two surfaces meet and create a stop. It looks like the lid should open about 145 degrees and then stop.
I mentioned barrell stop hinges earlier. They look like your hinges in the pics, but they have a built in "stop" at 50 to 55 degrees past perpendicular (145 degrees). The reason I mention the 50 and 55 degrees is that's how they are labeled for sale. They're called "barrell hinge with 55 degree stop". A guy already knows they mean past 90 degres (or he'll learn the first time he gets them, lol).
By not setting in the hinge, the whole built in stop design of the humi is defeated.
That says the guy isn't real swift, or he doesn't understand hinging, or I missed something. That something would become obvious as soon as I opened the lid.

Brad, did the lid swing all the way back and hit the table, or did it stop at some point along the way? It looks to me like it'd do the former, but the hinges may be stops, or the mating surfaces might bind before the lid hits the table.

Either way, it goes right back to you being absolutely right about the hinges. They should have been set in. I'm just craftsman-curious and want to see what the builder was thinking, and what (if anything) he did to make the lid stop like it should.

[Taki]

I really hope you get your money back...plus for that kind of money I would talk to some of the guys here on CA that make some custom pieces...they will handle it with care and get you hooked up the right way :tu

[shilala]

I think I see now. The hinges are emmeshed between the two layers of laminated wood that make up the base. If he'd have just adjusted them a bit deeper into the lid and base and made a little carf for the barrell of the hinge, then the fitment would be right and the design would stop the lid and it'd work great.
That design allows a guy to use a regular old barrell hinge without a stop, but it also defeats the design purpose.
I think he simply made a mistake in how deep he set the hinges, and once he was committed to the depth, the screws are already laminated between two layers, so there's no fixing it.
Really, really bad idea. If he'd just take the extra time to set them properly he could make all the adjustments he needs for perfect fitment.
My guess is that this is a design change he made from a templated box drawing he found somewhere. A quick rethink would put him on the right track.
It's a shame, because he really does do gorgeous work.

Another line of thought on the hinging is that it'd completely do away with hinge tear-out. So if they are set properly, it'd be foolproof. But humans aren't foolproof. :)
So it really could be considered a good idea on that front. It's just that the cons outweigh the benefits. Plus the hinges would actually be mounted in the hardwood and the screws would never pull out of paduak. You need to spend money on good hinges, though. Think maybe $12-20 a set rather than $1.00 a set.

I don't believe his assertion that everyone else is fine with this fitment, either. I think this box was simply a mistake and he tried to get it by you as "good enough". He had to have cringed when he saw the mistake himself.

[ysr_racer]

I'm not a wood worker, but I'll describe it the best I can. The flat (plate) part of the hinge is sandwiched between the poplar inner box, and the Paduak outer box.

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL856/883856/23969054/399997927.jpg

[ysr_racer]

Looks like we replied at the same time :)

[shilala]

Looks like we replied at the same time :)
We sure did. :D
It puts to rest the "fixing it" part, too. It'd be a harder to fix than I initially thought, but it could still be fixed. I'd just have to clean out all the old hinge by cuting it with a wafer wheel on a grinder, then either move the hinges to the left or right of their location, or just deal with grinding out the metal to set the new hinge.
It'd be a pain, but it'd still be fixable. That's academic by now anyways, but if all the builder's customers don't mind the fit, he should be able to resell it in no time. ;)

[arlinliss]

the humidor maker is unskilled in my opinion....

[ysr_racer]

the humidor maker is unskilled in my opinion....

A man of few words, and many (nice) humidors. I like it.

I got a check in the mail from the original builder yesterday. I paid him with Visa :sh

[Ranger_B]

Not a bad box just not a humidor.

[arlinliss]

FWIW here is what I call a Solid Paduak Humidor

http://www.arlinliss.com/_Paduak/Rick_D_M/21,5x13,75x11,5/Humidor_Details.htm

This was made about 12 years ago..... it has not been returned.

[ysr_racer]

the humidor maker is unskilled in my opinion....

What's the opposite of "Praise from Caesar" ? :noon

[thecatch83]

Wouldn't even ask if you did the dollar bill test.....that workmanship is horrible!

[Silound]

Speaking as a hobbyist and one who occasionally builds grandfather clock bodies and other things out of hardwood, I have to agree with Scott on this.

There is absolutely nothing that I can see that is wrong with the overall craftsmanship of the humidor, other than the hinges being a glaring design flaw. Had a different method of hinging been used, this box likely would have fit tightly and nicely. The laminate and miter jobs are well done, which is no easy task for even an experienced craftsman. Hell, every so often one of my miters doesn't add up perfectly, and I've been doing it for almost 15 years.

The hinges are enough to make me send it back, but that's really about it.

Thinking about this makes me want to get back into the shop and make a few humidors of my own...oddly a project I've never undertaken.

[Ed M]

What a piece of s**t! I'm into woodworking as a hobby. I've never attempted a humidor, but if I do and it looks like that, it's going straight in the fireplace. I wouldn't even SHOW it to anyone, let alone try to SELL it. I don't think he'll be in business long. Hope you get your money back.

[ronzorelli]

Never buy anything from anyone selling stuff on a web site with Comic Sans font. Ever.