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ApexAZ
10-27-2011, 09:28 AM
I just received a 5 pack of Puros Indios cigars from CI and one of them had a noticeable amount of dark brown dust that came out of the foot of the cigar. There was a very small hole in the wrapper but seems almost too small for a bug, but who knows. None of the others had any of this dust.

I recall reading elsewhere that dust could indicate beetles. Should I assume this cigar is compromised?

T.G
10-27-2011, 09:45 AM
Hard to say.

How big is the hole and does the hole go all the way through both the wrapper and the binder, into the filler?

If it was a beetle, it's probably long gone by now.

Blak Smyth
10-27-2011, 09:46 AM
Pics?

ApexAZ
10-27-2011, 09:54 AM
Hole was very small. Maybe ball point pen tip sized. I'll take a photo of it tonight when I get home from work. Smoking beetle poop doesn't excite me much though.

Blak Smyth
10-27-2011, 09:58 AM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIww-JiwIs15_rPbksXRw4BUNkbMz_Le2y2DJUhCMk9Pzr1SfoOvFNg UdE

This is what they typicaly look like.
I experienced one on a single stick in an order of 10, looked very similar to this.
Froze them all and disected the one with the hole and found the beetle dead inside.

irratebass
10-27-2011, 09:59 AM
YES!!!! ASSUME!!!!

Here are the 2 that had beetles from NeptuneCigars.com

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/photobucket-3383-1317943063211.jpg

You can clearly see the bastige right below the band, I touched him with my thumb and he exploded

This 2nd one you can't see the beetle, but there is a distinctive hole and yep mine had the dust
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/photobucket-3438-1317943138818.jpg

bobarian
10-27-2011, 11:05 AM
Si

jjirons69
10-27-2011, 11:12 AM
Fine dust + apparent hole = vermin

Even without the hole, that fine dust is a sure sign, especially if you can tap the cigar and dust falls from the foot.

Smoke it now while you can. Listen for screams.

ApexAZ
10-27-2011, 11:17 AM
YES!!!! ASSUME!!!!

Here are the 2 that had beetles from NeptuneCigars.com

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/photobucket-3383-1317943063211.jpg

You can clearly see the bastige right below the band, I touched him with my thumb and he exploded

This 2nd one you can't see the beetle, but there is a distinctive hole and yep mine had the dust
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/photobucket-3438-1317943138818.jpg

That's the exact same cigar I got. They came wrapped in burlap. Aside from the beetle issue, we're the others any good?

irratebass
10-27-2011, 11:20 AM
That's the exact same cigar I got. They came wrapped in burlap. Aside from the beetle issue, we're the others any good?

Mine were just 2 actually 3 sticks (1 made it ok) I froze the others it was part of a 15 pack sampler......the others were ok, I put them in the freezer for 4 days before putting them in my humi.....here is the thread with all the details:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49721

macsauce13
10-27-2011, 11:38 AM
Puros Indios would replace these in a heartbeat if you contact them. Some of the BEST people in cigars.

ApexAZ
10-27-2011, 11:40 AM
I contacted CI and they are sending me replacements. I had a couple cracked wrappers as well. Super good experience with their customer service. I'm going to freeze them all now.

irratebass
10-27-2011, 12:06 PM
Puros Indios would replace these in a heartbeat if you contact them. Some of the BEST people in cigars.

I wrote them off as cheapies, I never thought to call them directly

I contacted CI and they are sending me replacements. I had a couple cracked wrappers as well. Super good experience with their customer service. I'm going to freeze them all now.

Better CS than I received.....however I did get a stinky out of it, but per my suggestion.

Sherlockholms
10-27-2011, 12:25 PM
Nasty little buggers.

ucla695
10-27-2011, 12:31 PM
Burn the buggers!

darkninja67
10-27-2011, 01:04 PM
Always wondered if you froze infested cigars then smoked them what kind of flavor would the dead beetle impart on the smoke??

hotreds
10-27-2011, 01:10 PM
They make a neat popping noise when smoked:banger

macsauce13
10-27-2011, 01:18 PM
I wrote them off as cheapies, I never thought to call them directly.

Try the Viejo. Honestly some of my favorite cigars and are incredibly cheap. The people there are super friendly and do anything they can to help you. I have received tshirts, ashtrays, free cigars, with different orders from them. Really classy folks!

irratebass
10-27-2011, 01:28 PM
Try the Viejo. Honestly some of my favorite cigars and are incredibly cheap. The people there are super friendly and do anything they can to help you. I have received tshirts, ashtrays, free cigars, with different orders from them. Really classy folks!

Interesting, I will seek them out, I still have one left of the 3.

Are these from Drew Estate?

macsauce13
10-27-2011, 01:36 PM
Interesting, I will seek them out, I still have one left of the 3.

Are these from Drew Estate?

No, they are Reyes Family Cigars. www.reyesfamilycigars.com

:tu

irratebass
10-27-2011, 01:39 PM
No, they are Reyes Family Cigars. www.reyesfamilycigars.com

:tu

Thanks!

irratebass
10-27-2011, 01:45 PM
No, they are Reyes Family Cigars. www.reyesfamilycigars.com

:tu

They also included one of the Cuba Aliados in the sampler too :tu

Zeuceone
10-27-2011, 03:08 PM
Complaing about free beetles @ApexAZ?

ApexAZ
10-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Complaing about free beetles @ApexAZ?

I'll be happy to mail them to you.

ApexAZ
10-29-2011, 05:54 PM
Here's the cigar with the hole.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6292695893_2bba950d5a_z.jpg

OLS
10-29-2011, 06:41 PM
Always wondered if you froze infested cigars then smoked them what kind of flavor would the dead beetle impart on the smoke??

What kind of taste do insect fragments have on peanut butter?? I assure you you would not taste it.

OLS
11-01-2011, 02:18 PM
As luck would have it, I REVIEWED JUST SUCH a cigar flavor in THIS review.
Check it out. http://olscigars.blogspot.com/2011/10/smoking-more-of-fakes.html

I've been told that beetles do not mean fakes, but again, never seen em in a real habano
in MY OWN stash. (maybe this is the first)
What happens to others or in shops is another matter that does not concern me.