Rolling your own

[BlkDrew]

Hey guys,
I have just started rolling my own cigars, i was wondering if anyone else here was doing the same?
I have been ordering my tobacco from Leafonly.com and i have bought a couple of cigar molds from BLH industries in PA ( the make the molds for some big name cigar manufacturers)

I did a quick search and didnt find any post pertaining to this subject, and i'd like to get some discussion started on this new found hobby of mine.

[Mattso3000]

Sorry, too lazy for that. Sounds like fun tho.

[BlkDrew]

I just see it to be a hobby, I still buy my fav's, dont get me wrong. Just like home brewing, i started home rolling.

[Mattso3000]

I'm drunk, don't mind me. Sounds like a great hobby.

[Blak Smyth]

That's too funny, me and SteelCityBoy (Ken) met up at a B&M tonight and were discussing this same idea. How have they come out? Post some pics please!!!

[Lanks85]

This is pretty cool. I would love to attempt at something like this, but I'm sure accessing quality tobacco in Canada is more of a hurdle than the US. I would love to see the process that you undergo to produce your product! Post some pics if you are willing!

Steve

[BlkDrew]

Granted i have only made 5 sticks,
when i buy from Leafonly, i buy the samples which are 1/4 lb and is plenty. good prices at 5-10$ per 1/4 lb
youtube is your friend when learning to bunch, bind and wrap.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/316753_603881555082_72106292_32339560_1855067116_n .jpghttp://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/300019_603910721632_72106292_32339813_1545880235_n .jpg

@Lanks- Leafonly.com ships to Canada.
@blak Smyth- i have ordered some better wrappers, the ones i intended to use the first time had some larger veins. the mold in the picture is from JpRose in Ohio, it is a good hobbyist mold.

I purchased one like this
http://blhindustriesinc.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/front_page.26121506_std.jpg

[Eleven]

If Sam Leccia can do it, ANYONE can!

:noon

[hammondc]

Badass. Keep us posted on how it goes. I would be interested in trying it....

[Lonely Raven]

Pretty neat!

But I'll leave it to the experts. You know, the hot, young Nicaraguan women rolling the cigars on their nubile thighs....

That's how it's done, right? :sh

[CigarSquid]

Would love to try a homemade, hand rolled cigar. Sounds fun. Keep us posted and update the pictures.

[Taki]

That's pretty sweet...don't know if I'd have the patience for it. How long does it take??

[gbum]

nice... try to roll several stick and ask your friend to do a blind taste...
if it turn out great... then u know what to do.. ngeheheh

[WittyUserName]

That is awesome. I would love to give it a shot but I do not want to make that investment until I get back home.

Please keep us updated with pictures and reviews.

[BlkDrew]

That's pretty sweet...don't know if I'd have the patience for it. How long does it take??

For 2 hours one day, one could bunch, bind and press the cigars, then spend a couple hours the next day wrapping them. The time is more spent in prep than wrapping.

[neoflex]

That's pretty awesome. For your first time rolling those sticks don't look too terrible. I do love the Pizza Cutter Cheveta.:D Nice job!

[Crownedone]

I love the idea, do they have a maduro wrapper?

[ApexAZ]

Very cool. How much was the initial cost? Where do you learn to do it? How much are your smokes costing per stick on avg so far? How long does it take? How do they taste? I like the DIY idea!

[T.G]

Very cool. How much was the initial cost? Where do you learn to do it? How much are your smokes costing per stick on avg so far? How long does it take? How do they taste? I like the DIY idea!

Do you have a room?
Does your dog bite?

[kelmac07]

Looks very cool...I know I don't have the patience to do this.

[BlkDrew]

Very cool. How much was the initial cost? Where do you learn to do it? How much are your smokes costing per stick on avg so far? How long does it take? How do they taste? I like the DIY idea!


The only costly amount to the DIY is the Mold. you can get some retired molds online or buy a new one like i did. I learned mostly from watching online. Also we have a shop in town that has a roller, and he has taught me a couple things.

I have less than 100$ invested and i have about 2lbs of tobacco right now, the mold, glue etc..

[CoreyD]

Very interesting that you posted this and I thank you. It reminded me of how and why I first got into the cigar world and found these forums learning about cigars. I originally was going to go this route and get tobacco from other places after I learned the different tastes origins etc but ended up with fear that the leaves i get may taste like dog rockets so then I decided to take it a step further and found a place to buy seeds grow it , build a place to ferment it and got stuck on where to hang it that would be climate controlled and no mold and a place same way to start the seedlings and first stage.
So I put in on hold thinking that with the cigars out there and the money I would pay for on leaves of same quantity of cigars yet better quality it may not be worth my while but I stayed somewhat unsatisfied holding on 2 dreams. So again I thank you this refreshed me. And I'm glad your enjoying yourself.

[weak_link]

If you are just getting started you can also skip the mold and use news paper. Just bunch as you normally would but then wrap it in newspaper and twist the ends like a tootsie pop.

[Lanks85]

Thanks for the pictures of your setup. It must be pretty rewarding smoking one that you rolled yourself. I will have to try it one day. -(P

[ApexAZ]

Last question...I promise. Do you need a vice for the press, or do you just stack some books or other heavy objects on it?

[BlkDrew]

Last question...I promise. Do you need a vice for the press, or do you just stack some books or other heavy objects on it?

The original mold that I had used 5 bolts with wing nuts to tighten it down, the new mold will be compressed using weight, I am also looking into getting an old wine press or something along those lines.

[CoreyD]

My issue right now is finding good Long small ring Gauge molds for a good price

[CoreyD]

Got a bid on a 20 ct perfecto mold, I also want to find a corona but 7 inch. What would be nice is to find a place I can get leaves similar to generals leaves or AVO but have a few blends that sound tasty written down. Only issue with that is what grade they are ? Would hate to roll up some turds and smoke them for me upcoming 10 yr sobriety in Feb. But I figurwe start with tobacco get good at rolling and make my way to lanceros and better baccy.

[Blak Smyth]

Granted i have only made 5 sticks,
when i buy from Leafonly, i buy the samples which are 1/4 lb and is plenty. good prices at 5-10$ per 1/4 lb
youtube is your friend when learning to bunch, bind and wrap.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/316753_603881555082_72106292_32339560_1855067116_n .jpghttp://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/300019_603910721632_72106292_32339813_1545880235_n .jpg

@Lanks- Leafonly.com ships to Canada.
@blak Smyth- i have ordered some better wrappers, the ones i intended to use the first time had some larger veins. the mold in the picture is from JpRose in Ohio, it is a good hobbyist mold.

I purchased one like this
http://blhindustriesinc.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/front_page.26121506_std.jpg

Wow thanks for the info and pics, keep us posted!!!
If you need a blind taste tester let me know:tu
I would love to get into this but it would be a huge downer if they all came out to be dog rockets:td

[BlkDrew]

got some CT shade leaf for the wrappers. I also have Ligero, and Seco fillers from nicaragua.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/310492_605201649602_72106292_32349872_1609562648_n .jpg
and here is organizing the wrappers, spreading them out as they were bunched together, moistening the leaves etc..
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301690_605201544812_72106292_32349871_985910922_n. jpg

[Blak Smyth]

Very nice, thanks for the pics!
Can't wait to hear how they taste!

[deadrise]

that is very cool I would like to try it

[CoreyD]

Nice picks, the ct shades look smaller than what I expected.Tell me how they work. Are you cutting the vein out or rollin it out and keeping it whole?

[BlkDrew]

cutting out the vein and wrapping with the half

[BlkDrew]

some more today, using a CT shade leaf wrapper, Dominican Ligero and Seco filler so it should have some bite, but look pretty.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0913.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0915.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0916.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0914.jpg

[big a]

Very nice thread and pic. Some friends of mine have always talked about going to one of the rolling your own events at the B&Ms around here but have never made it you. Can't wait to see more pics of the hobby and to hear how they are smoking.:tu

[Blak Smyth]

Keep the pics coming I love this thread!

[CigarSquid]

you can smoke these pretty much right after?

[BlkDrew]

you can smoke these pretty much right after?

just had one :tu

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0917.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

just had one :tu

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0917.jpg

How was it?

[BlkDrew]

pretty good, i believe it will be much better once it has had a chance to rest, allowing the seco and ligero fillers to mingle. I am doing 2 more of the Nicaraguan fillers with the CT shade leaf, then i will switch back to the dominican.

[WittyUserName]

Great pictures, that is awesome!! The more you post the more I want to give this a try.

[never_enough]

This is really cool. I will keep an eye on this thread.

[jjirons69]

In just leaf alone, how much do you think is invested in each smoke?

[Crownedone]

Yes... How was it?

I think I'm going to have to think about trying this also. This is seriously very cool.

[BlkDrew]

i forgot to post what they look like in the binder, right out of the mold... so here ya go
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0918.jpg

[GTsetGO]

i have been wanting to try it out.

i might have to take a look at that site.

[BlkDrew]

In just leaf alone, how much do you think is invested in each smoke?

1-2$

on Leafonly.com i buy the samples, which are roughly 7.99 per 1/4lb
I have wrappers, binders and 4 different fillers, I am definitely under 70$ for all the tobacco leafs

[BlkDrew]

Alright, need a few brave souls for a taste test. Ct shade leaf wrapper, Nicaraguan liger and seco fillers.

[Brutus2600]

Color me interested...I'd even write up a review for ya :)

[CoreyD]

I'd be interested cause that minus a Ecuador sumatra as a binder was some of the blends and the leaves I was going to order and am curious on the taste. I do know however the blend would be different but am curious. I myself was waiting till I saved $140 before ordering it so this would be nice to do a review and sample before spending that sum.
My palate broad ranges so in a taste test it is open minded.

[BlkDrew]

Alright, Corey and Brutus it is.

[Bax]

Some reviews on these would be awesome:tu

[Benwoo]

The new rolls look much better. Grats on the new hobby. It looks like you're progressing rapidly in your rolling skills =D

[pipesmith]

Good luck! Great idea but be careful, one day I thought it would be a cool idea to make a pipe to smoke, now look where I am at :)

[Doctorossi]

Great idea but be careful, one day I thought it would be a cool idea to make a pipe to smoke, now look where I am at :)

Ohio?! :eek:

[BlkDrew]

And the Roxy brand is born...

named after my Boxer, Roxy

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0924.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0925.jpg

[CoreyD]

I'll have to follow suit when I get up and running and name my first batch Raz after my dog as a kid Rasputin.
Those look sexy on camera by the way.

[BlkDrew]

Sorry to say the one in the mail coming to you has no label.

[BlkDrew]

I love when my order gets messed up in my favor...

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/389722_607003862952_72106292_32363949_556952069_n. jpg

[kelmac07]

And the Roxy brand is born...

named after my Boxer, Roxy

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0924.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0925.jpg

They look damn good...excellent job brother. :tu

[Blak Smyth]

And the Roxy brand is born...

named after my Boxer, Roxy

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0924.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0925.jpg

These are looking amazing brother! Keep up the good work and I thank you for posting your progress!

[Crownedone]

Outstanding!outstanding! I got to check out the site.

[CoreyD]

I love when my order gets messed up in my favor...

any extras that you get to keep can be PIF'd to wi hehe. Me personally, Don't like when orders get mixed up, lost or anything cause I usually end up feeling guilty that me nor the place of transaction didn't get what we paid for or sold. I don't want anyone in a transaction that deals with me feel lost out. Its hard to do business with someone if theres a bad taste in the mouth either way.

[IndyRob]

So uhm, where do I place my order? ;)

[ApexAZ]

So uhm, where do I place my order? ;)


Same

[DBall]

So Drew... when does the Rochester crew get to try one... you've piqued my curiosity. :tu

[BlkDrew]

well, I need to figure out how to ship them on the cheap. I guess i have to find a good source of small boxes...

also what are the legalities behind selling them, would i just be selling the Cigar band? haha, what prices, pending the reviews i get (to make sure they arent too bad) would people pay for one?

@ Dball, let me know the next time you are out at Jerry's and i will hand one over. I would value your input.

[BlkDrew]

And here is the new Micro batch,

Havana wrapper, dominican filler, havana binder

CT shade leaf wrapper, dominican filler, havana binder
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0944.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

And here is the new Micro batch,

Havana wrapper, dominican filler, havana binder

CT shade leaf wrapper, dominican filler, havana binder
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0944.jpg

looking awesome!

well, I need to figure out how to ship them on the cheap. I guess i have to find a good source of small boxes....

USPS has free boxes!

[WittyUserName]

What shane said.


But I assume you are talking about cigar boxes. That I cannot help you with.....

[sevans105]

Found these...probably not spanish cedar, but probably ok for a bit!

http://www.umei.com/p/f/wood-box-hardware-pricing.htm#Generic

[BlkDrew]

looking awesome!



USPS has free boxes!

Thats is what i was using, the smallest flatrate box which is 5.20 to ship. making it expensive to ship samples. i would rather pay postage by weight

[cigardan]

Great thread, and the cigars look great!

[mariogolbee]

Use bubble mailers and regular postage, first class. I think it's like a min. charge of $1.87 and the mailers can be found for cheap if you shop around.

[BlkDrew]

Use bubble mailers and regular postage, first class. I think it's like a min. charge of $1.87 and the mailers can be found for cheap if you shop around.

i was thinking that, but one wrong bend and oops.... broken

[DBall]

i was thinking that, but one wrong bend and oops.... broken

It's 5 bucks to ship anywhere in the US with the small flat rate boxes. Probably the best way to go. I have a ton at my place. Come out to Moe's Sunday and I can bring you some if ya need em.

Can't wait to try the cigar, man :tu

[mariogolbee]

i was thinking that, but one wrong bend and oops.... broken
True, but I have never received nor sent sticks that were received broken by this method.

[Benwoo]

There should be several light, creative solutions for reinforcing the stick(s) for transport unless maybe you can secure some generic tubos for shooting samples around.

[mariogolbee]

It's 5 bucks to ship anywhere in the US with the small flat rate boxes. Probably the best way to go. I have a ton at my place. Come out to Moe's Sunday and I can bring you some if ya need em.

Can't wait to try the cigar, man :tu
He mentioned that he wants to pay less than "$5.20" to ship samples. Some times bubble mailers are the way to go. Most of the time flat rate is where it's at, but not always.

[IndyRob]

ok, how about this... a Roxy Pass?! First come, first serve each person in the rotation takes a Roxy and stuffs it with something in return, it makes it back to you. You get a sampler for a sampler? :)

[BlkDrew]

ok, how about this... a Roxy Pass?! First come, first serve each person in the rotation takes a Roxy and stuffs it with something in return, it makes it back to you. You get a sampler for a sampler? :)

Like the idea... Could use my 10 count herf.

[BlkDrew]

ok, so a couple of samples went out. I have had some good comments on the construction, draw, ash and overall appearance.

I will be making some more this week, I am looking for 2-3 more people to send samples to. Send me a PM if interested.

Thanks.

[Brutus2600]

Got word that it's arrived at the casa, it will be first on the list of things to smoke & review when I get home this weekend :)

[BlkDrew]

Some updates ( sorry for the big pictures)... got some new tools. Antique foot (tuck) cutter- nice ebay find for 35$
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0969.jpg

I also made my own Cheveta- 304 Stainless :)
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0968.jpg

More of some sticks still in the mold, will wrap today.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0967.jpg

Cheers!
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0958.jpg

[Mutombo]

^^Awesome, they look great. How'd it smoke?

[BlkDrew]

^^Awesome, they look great. How'd it smoke?

Im not great for reviews, but as far as my preferences go, it was good. It had a nice spice to the wrapper, mild smoke, clean ash, great flavor.

[Blak Smyth]

Andrew I will try to get my review to you this weekend but I am running out of time, if I can't make time for it tomorrow I will at one point this coming week! The stick looks great! Doing a great job so far, you make it look easy but I know it is not!

[BlkDrew]

I consider this a fair review, as it will help me make changes to how I store the cigars after rolling, and amount of time needed to rest the cigar, this thread is a learning tool for me and I hope others can chime in to help with issues I am having.

Thanks a lot Blak Smyth



Here is my attempt at a review Sunday, I will not post it because I don't think it would be a fair review.
It started out great but I had some real issues with the burn tunneling, I think maybe it was just too wet.
I think you are making a great cigar though, I was impresses with the professional construction and the taste I was experiencing prior to the burn issue.:tu
I would have loved to say all great things but I have to be honest with you so here is the review I was working on:


"Roxy H1 review
Woodsy prelight smell
Single cap very firm and even construction,
partially closed foot.


1/3
First draw was a bit tight but not too tight. Sweet smooth earthy flavor.
Semi sweet mild earthiness
Very light grey consistent ash.
Draw a bit harder than I prefer.
Cigar paired nicely with a cream soda.
At the end of the first third I ran into an unexpected issue, I couldn't get any smoke output even after inserting a draw tool.
I removed all the ash to find the cigar had tunneled in the center.
I cut the end of the cigar down and relit, it began to tunnel again.
I think the cigar was too wet still.
The head of the cigar was quit moist, more so than I had seen before.
I think the cigar just needed more rest. The flavors where great for a mild cigar with lots of creamy smooth earthy flavors.

I see a lot of potential but just didn't get to enjoy the stick due to the burn issue."


Thanks for giving me a chance to review the product, I wish it had been a better experience, but the good news is the flavors where there and the look was beautiful! Good luck in continuing this!


Forgot the bad pics:D

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6216/6344243340_5cf35d7401.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6114/63442U43336_20080c3b1c.jpg

[emopunker2004]

Andrew, I got the stick. I just got back from EPIC so give me a bit to let my palate recover. Once the stick sits in the humi a bit, i'll lite it up and post my thoughts. :D

[Blak Smyth]

Other than the burn issue in the review above I was really impressed with the flavors.
It was well beyond my expectations of what somebody could produce at home.
Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing this experience with all of us!

[guado]

Andrew, I got the stick. I just got back from EPIC so give me a bit to let my palate recover. Once the stick sits in the humi a bit, i'll lite it up and post my thoughts. :D

You can't taste anything either? hahahah-(P

[boxmonkey]

where did you learn about blending the cigars? I'm wanting to start doing this and figure I should start there.

[BlkDrew]

where did you learn about blending the cigars? I'm wanting to start doing this and figure I should start there.

Blending I started doing blindly, there are a limited number of leafs that you can purchase from leafonly,
I start with the Dominican seco and ligero, and I add in dried Havana 7 and some of the darker richer fronto leaves. The mos important thing I have learned is that any filler that is used has to be as close to dry as possible, otherwise it will take a long while to even out.

I am learning blending by doing small batches at a time.
More ligero= stronger
More seco= milder

[Brutus2600]

Sorry for the delay in my review. I haven't smoked a single cigar in three weeks even though I got back home this last Sunday. Life has been overly busy, but I'm hoping to get this review in Saturday or Sunday morning :)

[BlkDrew]

So i am still making more and more, trying to get a good blend.

I am getting much better at the caps.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0980.jpg

Rolled 10 today

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0979.jpg

[Crownedone]

Dude you are awsome! I love this.

[Giants85]

Wow, impressive stuff, cigars look great!!

[maninblack]

Those look awesome! Great job!

[boxmonkey]

where did you get your chaveta? found a site selling them but seem a little high for a hunk of sharp metal.

[kingcobradude]

where did you get your chaveta? found a site selling them but seem a little high for a hunk of sharp metal.
it said he made it by one of his pics. Its not that dificult to make. ot if you dont want to buy one a metal potters rib could probably do in a pinch

[CoreyD]

where did you get your chaveta? found a site selling them but seem a little high for a hunk of sharp metal.

I paid $20 for mine and since i had tobacco coming,I was already paying shipping. I have seen them on eb sell for as low as $10 then shipping from time to time

[BlkDrew]

Re: Taste Test
I did the review at work , I have pics that I could upload later but here is the review.

I paired off this cigar with a pot containing a Brazilian,Tazmanian blend that I home roasted with a splash of Irish Cream creamer.
This stick sat 15 days in my coolidor that is kept at a 61 humidity.
Prelight this stick was firm 3 veins appearing on wrapper 1 was a thick juicy one. The prelight aroma was fantastic a lil musty but had a great smell indeed. Was a firm stick with a hollow part on one of the sides near last 1/4.
Upon Light I found this blend easy lighting with thick white smoke coming out. It was so smooth at first I couldn't believe there was that much smoke in my mouth. It was windy outside so I had fear that it may make a run. White ringed ash now big greyish white smoke. Something in this is teasing my full body pallet. Now I enjoy mild cigars medium etc but theres something growing in the flavors each drag that tickles my curiosity and eager anticipation. Mild to medium the first 1/4.
Big smokey draws into the half. still haven't had to ash yet and still firm. Ash fell off a little under the half. I do notice a small hollow spot inside the ash as i look straight down into the cherry in a side of it. Thinking what I could compare this taste to but nothing comes to mind. Nice mellow taste great mild light medium with hint of teasing spice.
Last 1/4 really developed into a flavor that was quite exotic that is quite pleasing to the pallet. Medium flavor,great smell. Hollow side is fine and still a great burn and is smoking great. Wrapper came undone in 1 area in last 1/4 but not bad enuff that it unravelelled . No repair work needed at all on this stick during burning it up to the nub. Clients at work enjoyed the aroma as I sat and enjoyed the stick just teasing their curiosity.
My final concensus on this stick was I loved the blend, burn and what not. it was a hair under my pallet wants tonight for a full body but as a mild light medium it was quite enjoyable and this version I would not change due to the fact its nice having certain sticks for certain times of cravings and wants and I find myself thinking i'd put this stick in rotation and I have some mild/medium friends that don't partake much but would enjoy the complexity and light smooth flavor of this stick. 1 thing I can say is some parts of the flavor stayed the same but other parts changed throughout the burn.
Thank you again for the chance to try this creation,keep up the good work.

Thanks a lot. appreciate the help. I will look into the bunching portion of my rolling to make sure the dead spots (hallow spaces) are minimized.

[Lanks85]

Awesome stuff! It really sounds like your rolling and blending are really coming together. Keep up the good work and keep us posted with all the new creations. Thanks for sharing.

[BlkDrew]

well i got bored, and i knew i needed a press... so it was off to Tractor Supply to get some steel.

And whala

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0981.jpg

[Crownedone]

My...oh...my! Got to love this guy.

[BlkDrew]

More fun, I also made a couple Chevetas, so if anyone is looking for one.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0982.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0983.jpg

[Lanks85]

Loving the progress Andrew! They look like beauties!

[Crownedone]

Loving the filled box.

[akumushi]

Great work. It's fun to see the progress you're making with rolling. :tu

[kelmac07]

Are those two maduros in that box Andrew?

[kickerb]

:r

[Volusianator]

This thread is fantastic!

[BTcigars]

Wow this is a terrific thread! Keep up the great work!

[Swany]

The more I look at this thread, the more I want to get into it. One day......

Love the progress. Keep the pics coming.

[BlkDrew]

Are those two maduros in that box Andrew?

That would be correct

[deadrise]

hahahaha I can almost hear macs :dr:dr:dr hitting the floor.
this is a very cool thread and one we all need to learn from you never know
this might be the only way to have a cigar in the future.

[Mattso3000]

Subscribed. Great work on these, keep it up!

[Brutus2600]

Sorry for such a delay, life sure does seem to get in the way of this hobby of ours sometimes :td lol

Anyway, finishing up the review now...I'm very impressed with not only the quality of tobacco but the construction of it as well. I think you'll like my write up :tu Thanks again for sending me a sample!

[BlkDrew]

Sorry for such a delay, life sure does seem to get in the way of this hobby of ours sometimes :td lol

Anyway, finishing up the review now...I'm very impressed with not only the quality of tobacco but the construction of it as well. I think you'll like my write up :tu Thanks again for sending me a sample!

waiting patiently, :tu

[Sin]

def a hobby I could get into

[Shawn hines]

Wow, I have been thinking of doing this for several years, but just couldn't get the nerve to do so... But I think that I may have to make a investment today.

So when you need those reviews on more sticks I would like to put my cigar club on the list, if you ship to FPO

[BlkDrew]

Wow, I have been thinking of doing this for several years, but just couldn't get the nerve to do so... But I think that I may have to make a investment today.

So when you need those reviews on more sticks I would like to put my cigar club on the list, if you ship to FPO

If you have any questions when purchasing, I can help answer them.

I'd be more than happy to ship a couple to an FPO, just pm me an address.

[Dr Voss]

This is a great thread, I'm just a noob and it has me interested in giving it try.

[BlkDrew]

Thanks Brian,

Initial Thoughts: The wrapper has some visible veins and is applied very well. Overall the stick looks well constructed, with only a few minor soft spots.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-content/photos/cigars/roxy/01sm.jpg

First Third: The pre-draw brings notes of cut hay and a little vanilla. After the light the first few draws bring notes of hay, roasted nuts, and some light pepper. After it settles down there are some notes of buttered toast and some earthy, woodsy notes that I’m having trouble pinning down. Some slightly sweet caramel notes are mixing in nicely with some light black pepper notes. The draw is fantastic, not too loose and not too tight, and the burn is very good too, only needing one touch up (which I’m not entirely sure wasn’t my fault when I lit the cigar). The ash is a light grey color and is a little flaky, so it only holds to about a half an inch.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-content/photos/cigars/roxy/02sm.jpg

Second Third: Starting into the second third the cigar has really calmed down and is really starting to shine. The buttered toast, sweet caramel, and pepper notes are still hanging around. The mild and creamy nature of the Dominican filler really makes this cigar.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-content/photos/cigars/roxy/03sm.jpg

Final Third: Starting in on the final third it’s calmed down a bit. More toasted almonds and sweet cream than anything else. It’s stayed mild and smooth throughout the cigar, which I’m impressed with since a lot of retail cigars don’t do that. Finishing the cigar with no bitter notes and the sweet, creamy smoke really leaves a good impression overall.

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-content/photos/cigars/roxy/04sm.jpg

Total Smoking time: 1:05

Final Thoughts: I enjoyed this cigar, a lot actually. Andrew’s rolling skills were impressive, as was his choice of tobacco blend. I'm ready to go out and buy some of my own tobacco to try my hand at this

http://www.stogiesnbrews.com/wp-content/photos/cigars/roxy/05sm.jpg

[kingcobradude]

I would prolly buy a box of these

[BlkDrew]

so as far as applying the wrapper, I use a stainless tray, because it is easier to cut on, and if you lightly mist the outside of the wrapper, it sticks well to the stainless ( a trick i found on youtube of Sam Leccia rolling a nub)
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0985.jpg

you always want to start at the tip of the leaf, with veins facing up.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0986.jpg

Remove a thin strip of the outer edge of the leaf, this is the edge that shows!
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0987.jpg

Then remove a larger section of the inner edge, it does not show, and contains the bulk of the veins.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0988.jpg

[BlkDrew]

I then bring it up to a tail, applying glue to the wrapper on the last 1/2 inch before the tip. One thing i did not show is that i cut a small flag from a scrap piece and go around the last 1/2 inch again, making a triple cap.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0989.jpg

I then "Roll" the cigar, you can either use the Cheveta, or a piece of cedar like i have. this helps flatten out any veins that are really sticking out.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0990.jpg

Cap it, i use a 3/4 inch copper union that has been sharpened,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0991.jpg

And cut the foot.... now youre done.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0992.jpg

[Shawn hines]

Drew all I have to say is more... Great step by step

[BlkDrew]

so i decided to distinguish between my Nicaraguan blend, and Dominican blend i will either use a gold N or D
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0993.jpg

[Shawn hines]

I am looking forward to the day my box comes in the mail drop.

[BlkDrew]

so i got bored rolling this time. I decided to make a few short sticks, used less filler, did them in the Havana wrapper and a CT shade wrapper
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0995.jpg

and the meat-head they are named after,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0115.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

Awesome work as always Drew! Can't wait to try another!
Sent your tube back to you today!

[Shawn hines]

So do you think that I can make a mold over here by drilling a in between 2 boards? I know this sound kind of Redneck, but I cant afford a Mold right now but want to try this out.

[BlkDrew]

So do you think that I can make a mold over here by drilling a in between 2 boards? I know this sound kind of Redneck, but I cant afford a Mold right now but want to try this out.

you wont get the best press that way. if you look at my mold the top fits into the bottom, compressing the cigar and making it perfectly round. I had originally ordered one from JP Rose in ohio, if you see one of my first pictures, that was one that was drilled between two boards, and it did alright for the first 3 cigars, then i decided to go the other way.

If you look on ebay there are a lot of ones for sale, just search cigar mold, im sure you could find one in the 30$ range.:tu

[Shawn hines]

Thanks for the info...again

[never_enough]

Still impressed by this. Cigars are looking great.

[yourchoice]

Very cool!:cool:

[boxmonkey]

what kind of bunching technique do you use? I've been looking on youtube at different techniques and now I want to cut into a nub to figure out how they bunch them to stand.

[BlkDrew]

what kind of bunching technique do you use? I've been looking on youtube at different techniques and now I want to cut into a nub to figure out how they bunch them to stand.

I have tried a couple ways. Accordian style works really well, I also started doing a u shape with 2 seco leaves and then fold the ligero inside of the "u" with some leftover scrap wrapper that I have dried.

[Emjaysmash]

Subscribed. This is a very interesting thread! Thanks for sharing!

[Lanks85]

so i got bored rolling this time. I decided to make a few short sticks, used less filler, did them in the Havana wrapper and a CT shade wrapper
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0995.jpg

and the meat-head they are named after,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0115.jpg

Awesome dog btw! Although, it does look grumpy. Did you ask her before you used her name for your cigars? :D

[BlkDrew]

Awesome dog btw! Although, it does look grumpy. Did you ask her before you used her name for your cigars? :D

well i figured since i named her i could use the name. I would consider her a maduro...

[WittyUserName]

I am absent for a couple of days and there are more pictures. Thank you again for sharing.

[kelmac07]

Can't wait to fire up the maduro you sent Andrew. :D

[Blak Smyth]

well i figured since i named her i could use the name. I would consider her a maduro...

:r

[Salvelinus]

Just made it through this thread, awesome addition to the site! The cigars are looking outstanding, and getting to see the process and progression is really cool.

[Crownedone]

Those sticks are getting better looking all the time.

[boxmonkey]

I have tried a couple ways. Accordian style works really well, I also started doing a u shape with 2 seco leaves and then fold the ligero inside of the "u" with some leftover scrap wrapper that I have dried.

Thanks again for the chaveta. now waiting for santa (the wife) to deliver some leafs.

[Lanks85]

well i figured since i named her i could use the name. I would consider her a maduro...

well put... :D

[Zeuceone]

Keep up the great work.

[backwoods357]

I just went back and read all eight pages. It was really interesting to watch the quality of construction improve in just a months time. I am amazed how many brothers you have inspired to try this. Excellent work.

[emopunker2004]

I just went back and read all eight pages. It was really interesting to watch the quality of construction improve in just a months time. I am amazed how many brothers you have inspired to try this. Excellent work.

THIS! I was shocked to see how they are currently turning out.

[BlkDrew]

THIS! I was shocked to see how they are currently turning out.

How was the one i sent you?

[emopunker2004]

How was the one i sent you?

I'm actually going to burn that puppy this Friday night :banger. I'll try my best at a review. Don't kill me if my review skills are lacking :r

[BlkDrew]

my review skills lack as well. I just smoke em, and if they taste good, i smoke em some more.. lol

[emopunker2004]

my review skills lack as well. I just smoke em, and if they taste good, i smoke em some more.. lol

Truth. My reviews are usually: The cigar was :tu or :td

[wayner123]

Do you have a list of the youtube vids that you found are the most helpful?

[BlkDrew]

Do you have a list of the youtube vids that you found are the most helpful?

Thanks for the question, I will make a list and supply the links today. :tu

[Shawn hines]

Do you have a list of the youtube vids that you found are the most helpful?

I was wondering the same thing, I kinda found a few but nothing that really sticks out to me.

[Blak Smyth]

Andrew, your tube shows it should be delivered today but it was in Philly this morning so it might be tomorrow. Let me know when it arrives, thanks for all your hard work and documentation in this thread!

[BlkDrew]

Andrew, your tube shows it should be delivered today but it was in Philly this morning so it might be tomorrow. Let me know when it arrives, thanks for all your hard work and documentation in this thread!

meh, wasn't today, i was expecting it. there is always tomorrow. :tu

[Ncpsycho]

so i got bored rolling this time. I decided to make a few short sticks, used less filler, did them in the Havana wrapper and a CT shade wrapper
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0995.jpg

and the meat-head they are named after,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_0115.jpg
You should sell some after that great review im sure you would get a couple buyers ..... Im thinking about tring this thanks for the thread

[BlkDrew]

I am waiting for my post count to go up, in order to open the "other doors"....

[BlkDrew]

and here are some videos that i found useful

difference between the Cuban triple cap vs. traditional dominican cap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXvKIBt3Rs4

Accordion bunching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjm8NV2wL-0

Entubado Bunching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHE6gGxtUy8

Sam Leccia rolling a nub, shows the use of a stainless work area. also shows the direction and shape to roll in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43CGdp_RL4

Those are a some good basic videos i have used to help with construction.

[Flounder]

I'm pumped to try a few come December. Would love to get together with all you Rochester guys, but Sundays aren't the best for me.

These look amazing by the way. When you mentioned in my thread about rolling your own, I never imagined anything this legit.

[wayner123]

and here are some videos that i found useful

difference between the Cuban triple cap vs. traditional dominican cap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXvKIBt3Rs4

Accordion bunching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjm8NV2wL-0

Entubado Bunching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHE6gGxtUy8

Sam Leccia rolling a nub, shows the use of a stainless work area. also shows the direction and shape to roll in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43CGdp_RL4

Those are a some good basic videos i have used to help with construction.

Thanks!

[BlkDrew]

One of the first Dominican blends i made, along with a Session Lager
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1006.jpg

Burned perfect all the way through, great flavors, Got some hints of Vanilla, earthy tones, and towards the end noticed a little anise.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1007.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1009.jpg

[ApexAZ]

Drew,

I'd be willing to pay for shipping if you'd be willing to send me 1? I'm a newb, and not really good at reviewing, but I'd love to try one and share my thoughts.

Brian

[BlkDrew]

Drew,

I'd be willing to pay for shipping if you'd be willing to send me 1? I'm a newb, and not really good at reviewing, but I'd love to try one and share my thoughts.

Brian

pm sent

[irratebass]

I'm late to this party, but WOW Andrew you have come along way, I see a bright future for you in rolling your own.

[Shawn hines]

Everytime I see something new on this thread I just keep wanting to try this... I think I will be Very soon

[maninblack]

Are these for sale Andrew? I'd love to try some.

[Crownedone]

I also would buy a fiver.

[never_enough]

I would consider buying a fiver to hand out for everyone to try at christmas eve this year.

[BlkDrew]

So this is a mini that i made... dont want to use the name "Nub"
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1005.jpg

I just purchased some Maduro wrappers, so i will have a Dominican filled with a maduro wrapper shortly.

I have taken into consideration the sale of Roxy cigars, as it is difficult to sell them not having the proper licenses, I figure i will sell the Cigar bands only, and the "tobacco is not for consumption"

Fivers will be 25 shipped in the small flat rate box. How does that sound?

[Savor the Stick]

So this is a mini that i made... dont want to use the name "Nub"
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1005.jpg

I just purchased some Maduro wrappers, so i will have a Dominican filled with a maduro wrapper shortly.

I have taken into consideration the sale of Roxy cigars, as it is difficult to sell them not having the proper licenses, I figure i will sell the Cigar bands only, and the "tobacco is not for consumption"

Fivers will be 25 shipped in the small flat rate box. How does that sound?

Put me down for the 1st 5'er of the Maduro wrapped Dominican---Robustos????

[BlkDrew]

Put me down for the 1st 5'er of the Maduro wrapped Dominican---Robustos????

all of the cigars i will be making will be 5x52

[Lanks85]

So this is a mini that i made... dont want to use the name "Nub"
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1005.jpg

I just purchased some Maduro wrappers, so i will have a Dominican filled with a maduro wrapper shortly.

I have taken into consideration the sale of Roxy cigars, as it is difficult to sell them not having the proper licenses, I figure i will sell the Cigar bands only, and the "tobacco is not for consumption"

Fivers will be 25 shipped in the small flat rate box. How does that sound?

How about the "Roxy Stub" instead of "nub"?

[Blak Smyth]

How about the "Roxy Stub" instead of "nub"?

Oh I like it! Andrew those look amazing!
I may have to order 5 maduro bands from you later down the road.

[irratebass]

Yep, put me in for later down the road as well. Congrats Andrew!

[SteelCityBoy]

Andrew,

I just got caught up on the entire thread and can tell you that you are doing an excellent job with this! It is such a cool hobby and it gives other BOTL a chance to see an up close and personal side of what goes into making a cigar.

You are really doing a great job and I just wanted to say thanks for a great thread and all the work that you are doing to share your hobby with us!

I will certainly be following your progress moving forward. :tu

[BlkDrew]

Big thanks to Shane who was very generous in sending back some sticks for a couple i sent to him,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1012.jpg

Another thanks to Mac, who was also very generous. ( Mac i will be making some more Maduros, so watch out :tu)
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1010.jpg

[Boz]

These really look great! Put me on the list to try some maduros :tu

[Crownedone]

I'll take a fiver of the maduros. Just tell me how.

[BlkDrew]

I will let everyone know when the maduros are available with some pictures.

[kelmac07]

I will let everyone know when the maduros are available with some pictures.

:wo :wo

[BlkDrew]

:wo :wo

i saw that comment coming a mile away.

[Blak Smyth]

I will let everyone know when the maduros are available with some pictures.

Can't wait to see these!

[Blak Smyth]

Big thanks to Shane who was very generous in sending back some sticks for a couple i sent to him,
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1012.jpg

Another thanks to Mac, who was also very generous. ( Mac i will be making some more Maduros, so watch out :tu)
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1010.jpg

Great minds think alike, great job Mac!:tu

Funny 2 out of the sticks we both sent are the same (or at least close)! And Maddies, imagine that?

[BlkDrew]

Great minds think alike, great job Mac!:tu

Funny 2 out of the sticks we both sent are the same (or at least close)! And Maddies, imagine that?

At least I will be able to enjoy each of those sticks, knowing I have a second on hand.

[Blak Smyth]

At least I will be able to enjoy each of those sticks, knowing I have a second on hand.

True, that's how I see it too!

[BlkDrew]

Some sticks will be for sale in another thread .

[Mattso3000]

Some sticks will be for sale in another thread .

:banger:banger

[BlkDrew]

up and selling a fiver at a time. :tu

soon i will have these available as soon as they rest. Dominican blended filler, Havana Prime binder, CT shade leaf wrapper.
the marbling on the wrapper goes away when dry. just moisture from rolling
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1015.jpg

[Shawn hines]

So I got a little package in the mail today. Thank you Roxy, I will post a little review when I can for you. I am sure there is a couple other guys that will love to tell you what they think as well...
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/the-hines/Shawn/Cigar%20Album/IMG_0065.jpg

[BlkDrew]

Glad they made it to the middle east... hope you guys enjoy them.

[irratebass]

Andrew, my Roxy Maduro came in last night, thank you, thank you, thank you....will probably fire this up on Friday and let you know on Sat about it.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/2011-12-04_01-30-02_841.jpg

[Shawn hines]

Andrew, I can't give a real review because It was a quick kill.... But I can tell you that one ROXY is no longer with us.
It was good, but I will need a little more time for the next one.

[BlkDrew]

no problem Shawn,

I finished the CT shade leaf dominican blend. I have 10 available.
I will split them into fivers, or individual. pm me for info.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1019.jpg

[irratebass]

*just a quick update*

I took my Roxy out of the bag it came in to put it in my humi and I couldn't resist smelling it.....WOW! I was blown away by how great this smelled.....can't wait to light it up....I hope I don't smoke it too fast before it's ready.

Looking forward to this Andrew, thanks again!

[BlkDrew]

*just a quick update*

I took my Roxy out of the bag it came in to put it in my humi and I couldn't resist smelling it.....WOW! I was blown away by how great this smelled.....can't wait to light it up....I hope I don't smoke it too fast before it's ready.

Looking forward to this Andrew, thanks again!

You should be all set for Friday.

[irratebass]

You should be all set for Friday.

:tu :tu

[BlkDrew]

no problem Shawn,

I finished the CT shade leaf dominican blend. I have 10 available.
I will split them into fivers, or individual. pm me for info.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1019.jpg

Only 5 left of the ct shade Dominican blend, 5 are currently pending a sale.

[Flounder]

Only 5 left of the ct shade Dominican blend, 5 are currently pending a sale.

Any chance you'll have some more or save them if we get together later this month?

[BlkDrew]

Any chance you'll have some more or save them if we get together later this month?

I do keep my own personal stock lol

[Marlon K]

Looks fun Keep us posted on how it goes. I would be interested in trying it.

[BlkDrew]

hey Mac, I think i found something you'd like... I had a spare maduro leaf...

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1021.jpg

[Ncpsycho]

Im get out of the clink around 6 ill be ******ing as soon as I get home can't wait

[Ncpsycho]

It bleeped out pay pal

[ApexAZ]

Naughty word!

[kelmac07]

hey Mac, I think i found something you'd like... I had a spare maduro leaf...

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1021.jpg

:wo :wo

[BlkDrew]

:wo :wo

I am expecting a shipment from leafOnly tomorrow, so I can get cracking on the maduros

[celtic250]

Great looking work you are doing here! Keep it up

[BlkDrew]

so i got a new toy... might sell my other one, who knows.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1023.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1024-1.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

so i got a new toy... might sell my other one, who knows.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1023.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1024-1.jpg

Oh very nice!

[irratebass]

I am expecting a shipment from leafOnly tomorrow, so I can get cracking on the maduros

More :wo :wo :wo's

[Shawn hines]

You know the more you keep posting on here makes my little order get here ASAP...

[BlkDrew]

You know the more you keep posting on here makes my little order get here ASAP...

what did you buy? care to share??

[maninblack]

Did I hear someone say, Maduro's?? My interest is piqued.

[Shawn hines]

Just a couple of the filler samples, and a CT leaf sample. Going to have to try and make my own press, don't have the cash for a mold right now... Hoping it will work until I can get my basic rolling down.

[wayner123]

Have you tried rolling the complete cigar without the press? If so, how did it smoke?

[BlkDrew]

Have you tried rolling the complete cigar without the press? If so, how did it smoke?

I am not that talented haha. i cant say i have tried it.

[DBall]

I smoked one the the Dominican ones while hanging out with Drew yesterday... I actually really liked it a lot. I had one when he first started rolling them and found it to lack flavor, this one yesterday was really good though.

(and I'm not just saying it because he's local or because I know him... I'd be honest about that).

[CigarGuy88]

Dan smoking and NC and liking it............ :O

[Boz]

:wo :wo

Yup

I am expecting a shipment from leafOnly tomorrow, so I can get cracking on the maduros


Um :wo :wo :wo

[DBall]

Dan smoking and NC and liking it............ :O

You aren't as surprised as I was.

[Ncpsycho]

Cant wait for these to hit my humi

[Ncpsycho]

Drew you should make a video or some picks of the process

[BlkDrew]

Drew you should make a video or some picks of the process

there are some pics a couple pages back, but it doesn't show bunching. I will have to get some pics of that. I would do a video, except i feel it will be very long because i take my time making them :D

[Flounder]

there are some pics a couple pages back, but it doesn't show bunching. I will have to get some pics of that. I would do a video, except i feel it will be very long because i am a professional :D

Fixt!

[Bageland2000]

Just stumbled upon this thread. Really impressed! Subscribed too. I'm really interested in buying a few of those bad boys

[BlkDrew]

oh they smell sooo good, Mac you would be :dr if you could smell the tobacco like this
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1033.jpg

[irratebass]

oh they smell sooo good, Mac you would be :dr if you could smell the tobacco like this
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1033.jpg

What a fricken tease :fu2

[Blak Smyth]

oh they smell sooo good, Mac you would be :dr if you could smell the tobacco like this
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1033.jpg

I think you should just turn those into earrings and send them to Macs wife!

[kelmac07]

oh they smell sooo good, Mac you would be :dr if you could smell the tobacco like this
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1033.jpg

Andrew...quit teasing!! :bh :bh

I think you should just turn those into earrings and send them to Macs wife!

Shane...you might be on to something here. :D

[irratebass]

I think you should just turn those into earrings and send them to Macs wife!

:lr :tu

[Savor the Stick]

I think you should just turn those into earrings and send them to Macs wife!

:r:r:noon

:tpd:

[BlkDrew]

just by them smell of this shipment of Dominican fillers, I can tell this will be a tasty smoke.
This is how i get my filler, stacked- somewhat moist, which is why i have to let them sit and rest so long after rolling
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1034.jpg

And i just use a rough leaf for the binder. Thick leaves work better because they wont tear. but you could also use two thinner leaves.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1035.jpg

and this is how i leave the first batch of maduros... for today
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1036.jpghttp://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1037.jpg

[Shawn hines]

very nice

[wayner123]

Thanks so much for letting us all tag along on your journey. I don't want to jinx you, but I got to ask... have you seen any beetles or beetle eggs? I don't know the method by which they store or fumigate the whole leaves from leafonly. Do you think giving them a sleep in the freezer is a good thing? I mean does it look like the leaves would dry out too easily?

[Marlon K]

just by them smell of this shipment of Dominican fillers, I can tell this will be a tasty smoke.
This is how i get my filler, stacked- somewhat moist, which is why i have to let them sit and rest so long after rolling
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1034.jpg

And i just use a rough leaf for the binder. Thick leaves work better because they wont tear. but you could also use two thinner leaves.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1035.jpg

and this is how i leave the first batch of maduros... for today
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1036.jpghttp://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1037.jpg

Are you going to sell any ? If so I will buy some to try

[BlkDrew]

Thanks so much for letting us all tag along on your journey. I don't want to jinx you, but I got to ask... have you seen any beetles or beetle eggs? I don't know the method by which they store or fumigate the whole leaves from leafonly. Do you think giving them a sleep in the freezer is a good thing? I mean does it look like the leaves would dry out too easily?

I ha e looked very closely at all the leaves I use and I have only seen a couple black shiny dots and the leaves that they were on I threw out. Other than that I have seen nothing.

[Ncpsycho]

This is my favorite thread lol

[Ncpsycho]

http://www.nublive.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4055&d=1323293209
Right where they belong---cant wait to try one thanks Drew

[Flounder]

http://www.nublive.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4055&d=1323293209
Right where they belong---cant wait to try one thanks Drew

Man that likes his Nubs, I gotta try some.

[Blak Smyth]

Shhhh be very quiet, shes sleeping...

...http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6459207935_bf79d52aab.jpg

Wheres Roxy???

[irratebass]

Nice collection there Kevin! :tu

[Ncpsycho]

Thanks im fond of nubs. Lol thats just a taste i wish i had more money hahaha

[Ncpsycho]

Cant wait for the maduros drew keep me in the loop and thanks