Rolling your own

[BlkDrew]

Started wrapping the maduros today. Will post pics later. :D

[Blak Smyth]

Started wrapping the maduros today. Will post pics later. :D

Awesome, can't wait!

[irratebass]

Started wrapping the maduros today. Will post pics later. :D

:tu

Will be firing mine up tomorrow!!

[Boz]

Started wrapping the maduros today. Will post pics later. :D

:dr :wo

[BlkDrew]

Let me just start off by saying.... Rolling a maduro is very difficult, due to the fact that the leaf is velvety soft, and can tear at any given time... luckily with a lot of patience, I was able to roll 10 using 10 wrapper leaves. hydration is very important with these leaves.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1038.jpg

also there are a lot of darker tobacco juices, which can stain your hands...
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1041.jpg

and finally, i have 12 but i rolled 10 today.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1042.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1042.jpg

Those look amazing Andrew!!!

[irratebass]

Let me just start off by saying.... Rolling a maduro is very difficult, due to the fact that the leaf is velvety soft, and can tear at any given time... luckily with a lot of patience, I was able to roll 10 using 10 wrapper leaves. hydration is very important with these leaves.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1038.jpg

also there are a lot of darker tobacco juices, which can stain your hands...
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1041.jpg

and finally, i have 12 but i rolled 10 today.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1042.jpg

Doing a great job Andrew! We all thank you for the hard work.

[BlkDrew]

Some CT shade and Havan Prime are for sale in the WTS/T

so.. if anyone would like to know, I will be getting a second mold to do a 42x5, It will save me on filler, and not everyone likes a Robusto.

for the next mini batch, I am using the same Dominican blend, but with a maduro binder and maduro wrapper.... guess you could call it a "double maduro" :ss

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1043.jpg

[irratebass]

Some CT shade and Havan Prime are for sale in the WTS/T

so.. if anyone would like to know, I will be getting a second mold to do a 42x5, It will save me on filler, and not everyone likes a Robusto.

for the next mini batch, I am using the same Dominican blend, but with a maduro binder and maduro wrapper.... guess you could call it a "double maduro" :ss



DOUBLE MADURO? :dr

[Savor the Stick]

Started wrapping the maduros today. Will post pics later.

Andrew, I really love what you are doing with the leaf.:dr I can't wait to try some; I plan on smoking one ROTT and letting the others rest for awhile maybe 6 months....if they last that long.:D

Curious on something??? Is there any reason you never got involved in the Newbie sampler trade? You have been a member here since Dec 2009 and really don't have any trader feedback other then the PIF's you have done recently. Just my curiosity running rampage here. No harm and no foul intended.:)

[BlkDrew]

Andrew, I really love what you are doing with the leaf.:dr I can't wait to try some; I plan on smoking one ROTT and letting the others rest for awhile maybe 6 months....if they last that long.:D

Curious on something??? Is there any reason you never got involved in the Newbie sampler trade? You have been a member here since Dec 2009 and really don't have any trader feedback other then the PIF's you have done recently. Just my curiosity running rampage here. No harm and no foul intended.:)

i joined in 2009, but i really didn't visit the site much. After i thought about rolling my own I was looking through different forums to see if anyone else was, then i remembered that i was a member here, and i started posting my progress. I honestly would like to do the newbie sampler trade, If i still can? I guess i just didn't know how to go about it.

[Blak Smyth]

i joined in 2009, but i really didn't visit the site much. After i thought about rolling my own I was looking through different forums to see if anyone else was, then i remembered that i was a member here, and i started posting my progress. I honestly would like to do the newbie sampler trade, If i still can? I guess i just didn't know how to go about it.

Contact Gator by PM about the NST and he will get back to you!!!

[Blak Smyth]

Some CT shade and Havan Prime are for sale in the WTS/T

so.. if anyone would like to know, I will be getting a second mold to do a 42x5, It will save me on filler, and not everyone likes a Robusto.

for the next mini batch, I am using the same Dominican blend, but with a maduro binder and maduro wrapper.... guess you could call it a "double maduro" :ss

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1043.jpg

42 is my favorite RG:tu

[Savor the Stick]

i joined in 2009, but i really didn't visit the site much. After i thought about rolling my own I was looking through different forums to see if anyone else was, then i remembered that i was a member here, and i started posting my progress. I honestly would like to do the newbie sampler trade, If i still can? I guess i just didn't know how to go about it.

I'm sure you would be welcome. here is the link (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=46087); Brent (Smokin Gator) runs it. I'm sure if you explained what happened, there wouldn't be a problem. Just ask to be put on the first timers list.:tu

Let me know when you want the money for the Double Maduro's. :dr
Your smokes look really nice--and I would like to try a connie wrapper also. Let me know.

[Blak Smyth]

I am into the 42RG Maddies for sure, keep me posted!

[Savor the Stick]

I am into the 42RG Maddies for sure, keep me posted!

Get in line! :D

[Blak Smyth]

Gonna have to start a waiting list for the 42RG maddies:

1) Blak Smyth
2) STS:r

[Savor the Stick]

Gonna have to start a waiting list for the 42RG maddies:

1) STS
2) Blak Smyth:r

Fixed it for ya!

Line forms at the rear buddy. And Age goes before Beauty( or handsomeness as the case may be)

[BlkDrew]

I am into the 42RG Maddies for sure, keep me posted!

they wont be here for at least 2 weeks. mold should come in late next week.

as far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-?
4-?
5-?

[irratebass]

I'm gonna wait and smoke mine, then I might really make ya work, and order 5er of ALL your wrappers bwaaaa haaaa haaaaaa!!!

[Savor the Stick]

they wont be here for at least 2 weeks. mold should come in late next week.

as far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-?
4-?
5-?

How does a person go about getting on this list? I posted on Dec 1st (post# #177) that I wanted a 5'er. I'll send you a pm.----whoops just checked my sent PM's and I sent you a pm on the 1st also.

[BlkDrew]

as far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-?
5-?

[Blak Smyth]

Interesting PM sent brother:r

[maninblack]

Andrew put me down for some maduro's. Excited to try them.

[Savor the Stick]

as far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-?
5-?



Great! :tu

Thanks Andrew!

[Boz]

How does a person go about getting on this list? I posted on Dec 1st (post# #177) that I wanted a 5'er. I'll send you a pm.----whoops just checked my sent PM's and I sent you a pm on the 1st also.



As did I. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1489585&postcount=184

[Savor the Stick]

As did I. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1489585&postcount=184

Aahhh......I see I didn't follow the right format. I only posted this:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1489502&postcount=177


:bhd:bh



:confused:

[Boz]

Aahhh......I see I didn't follow the right format. I only posted this:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1489502&postcount=177


:bhd:bh



:confused:

:r Looks fine to me :sh

[maninblack]

As far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-MIB
5-?

If it's ok with you of course Andrew. If not take me off.

[Flounder]

as far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-?
5-?

What about a Connecticut 5'r?

[akumushi]

Corona sized double maduro sounds awesome, I'd be down with that.
42 RG Maddie
1) STS
2) Blak Smyth
3) Akumushi

[BlkDrew]

As far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-MIB
5-Boz

[maninblack]

As far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-MIB
5-Boz

:noon :noon :banger

[Boz]

As far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-MIB
5-Boz

:noon :noon :banger

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n30/Boz_08/avatar278_4.gif

[BlkDrew]

As far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-MIB
5-Boz
6-Crownedone

[chaase321]

As far as a current list goes for the 5x50 maddie

1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-MIB
5-Boz
6-Crownedone

I'd be down for a 5'er of these if you would accept it Andrew!

Everything looks awesome :tu

[BlkDrew]

here is a pic of the factory for maduros... haha
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1045.jpg

and current list
1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-STS
4-MIB
5-Boz
6-Crownedone
7-Chaase321

[wayner123]

One more question if I may. What type of pectin are you using?

[BlkDrew]

One more question if I may. What type of pectin are you using?

I am using a simple starch, used primarily to thicken liquids. no taste, no smell, super sticky in concentration.

I would like to find what they use in factories, but hard to find. I have looked a sur Jell fruit pectin, but it contains citric acid, which gives it a bitter taste

[KenS]

My fiver that I picked up on the WTS thread arrived yesterday. I'll try one this weekend, but the others will get some proper rest. First observation is that the construction is outstanding; much better than I expected. You seemed to have mastered this very quickly :tu :tu

And they smell great; can't wait to fire one up on Saturday!

[wayner123]

I am using a simple starch, used primarily to thicken liquids. no taste, no smell, super sticky in concentration.

I would like to find what they use in factories, but hard to find. I have looked a sur Jell fruit pectin, but it contains citric acid, which gives it a bitter taste

You have really inspired me. I am getting some materials together and should have my first batch in a couple of weeks.

That being said, I did some research and it seems that Gum Arabic is what the Cuban Torcedore's use.

[irratebass]

You have really inspired me. I am getting some materials together and should have my first batch in a couple of weeks.

That being said, I did some research and it seems that Gum Arabic is what the Cuban Torcedore's use.

:wo more for us to sample boys :wo

[BlkDrew]

I did some research and it seems that Gum Arabic is what the Cuban Torcedore's use.
:wo just bought some on Amazon, Thanks brother.

I want to learn to make something like these....

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/images/La_Gloria_Cubana_Medaille_dOr_No.1_packaging_full_ 0.jpg
7x28
http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/images/La_Gloria_Cubana_Medaille_dOr_No.3_cigar_full_1.jp g

[Doctorossi]

Does anyone have a source for molds other than Ebay and LeafOnly?

I really want to find a particular RG.

[akumushi]

:wo just bought some on Amazon, Thanks brother.

I want to learn to make something like these....

7x28
http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/images/La_Gloria_Cubana_Medaille_dOr_No.3_cigar_full_1.jp g

The panatela larga is my absolute FAVORITE vitola, and as of last year is completely discontinued. If you learn how to roll these you will be my best friend for life :r:r:r

[Mattso3000]

The panatela larga is my absolute FAVORITE vitola, and as of last year is completely discontinued. If you learn how to roll these you will be my best friend for life :r:r:r

Exactly. If you can make this size I want on the list yesterday.

[BlkDrew]

and current list
1-Mac
2-Ncpsycho
3-MIB
4-Boz
5-Crownedone
6-chaase321

[Crownedone]

Thank you for remembering me for the list. Looking forward to enjoying your creations.

[BlkDrew]

Does anyone have a source for molds other than Ebay and LeafOnly?

I really want to find a particular RG.

Contact BLH industries. Search it on google and give them a call. I have a current inventory list with prices.

[irratebass]

Morning Andrew, I didn't get to Roxy like I wanted to last night.....LONG STORY, so she will meet her fiery death at my mom's Christmas party with some nice scotch this evening......I REALLY hate to burn her, because she smells so damn good.

[BlkDrew]

I REALLY hate to burn her, because she smells so damn good.

There will always be more. :tu

[irratebass]

There will always be more. :tu

That is a beautiful statement my friend :D

[irratebass]

So I finally got around to trying the Maduro Roxy that Andrew generously sent for me to sample.....now I am not a reviewer, so I will do my best.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/DSCF9100.jpg

First off the construction of the stick is very well put together, there were some noticeable veins, but not overpowering. When I pinched it, it snapped back and felt good in my hand quite a good looking stick.

I could not help but smell her I smelled barnyard aromas, and I noticed that I have not smelled a cigar that smelled this good....sure I have had some great smelling cigars, but there was just something about this....it was almost intoxicating and this is a good thing.

Onto the burns, it burned slowly...not a lot of smoke, and I think I only had to relight one time during the whole 1 hour and 30 or so mins of smoking.

While smoking I noticed peanuts, chocolate, maybe some coffee (only hints though) It was not an overpowering smoke and the closet comparison would be the Drew Estate Undercrown....if you haven't had that then I can't help you.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/DSCF9101.jpg

I had this paired with some Bacardi Gold Rum they went great together, I also had some grapes (purple seedless) in the process (I was at a party) and they did not take away from the enjoyment of the stick.

I would def buy a box of these and would love to try them after they have rested for a year.

Thank you again Andrew for letting me try it, I really appreciate it you really have something here and I look forward to trying your other wrappers as well. Keep it up brother.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/DSCF9102.jpg

[Doctorossi]

Contact BLH industries. Search it on google and give them a call. I have a current inventory list with prices.

Excellent! Thank you, sir.

[BlkDrew]

Excellent! Thank you, sir.

this is the inventory as it stood last week.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/viewer.png

[Blak Smyth]

Wow the Roxy Maduro has been compared to an Undercrown? That is saying a lot!

[BlkDrew]

New mold will arrive in a few days. If anyone has any new ideas let me know, a few others have already.

[Doctorossi]

this is the inventory as it stood last week.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/viewer.png

Rats- I'm looking for a 49, first and foremost. Thank you, again, though.

I presume the listed sizes describe a finished (wrapped) cigar made with the mold and not the diameter of only the "bindered" bunch that comes out of the mold. Do you know if that's true?

[chaase321]

New mold will arrive in a few days. If anyone has any new ideas let me know, a few others have already.

Have you thought about/considered doing a "nub" type of smoke (4in x 60)?

or a shorty like a 4in x 30?

just thoughts that you're looking for...hopefully! :)

[Blak Smyth]

I vote Lancero!
With a label with only an image of a brain on it!

[irratebass]

Have you thought about/considered doing a "nub" type of smoke (4in x 60)?

or a shorty like a 4in x 30?

just thoughts that you're looking for...hopefully! :)

He did:

So this is a mini that i made... dont want to use the name "Nub"
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1005.jpg

I just purchased some Maduro wrappers, so i will have a Dominican filled with a maduro wrapper shortly.

I have taken into consideration the sale of Roxy cigars, as it is difficult to sell them not having the proper licenses, I figure i will sell the Cigar bands only, and the "tobacco is not for consumption"

Fivers will be 25 shipped in the small flat rate box. How does that sound?

[Blak Smyth]

Something like this:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR99AwcjyudVdBhHGkTGyTzVybPiXl6U DEhAtYo9jFijS35ld-LtA

[Doctorossi]

You zombies... :tg

[chaase321]

He did:

hmmm...must have missed the "size" when looking at the photo


I vote Lancero!
With a label with only an image of a brain on it!

wait...t-shirts, stickers, avatars, and cigars! I NEED in!

[irratebass]

hmmm...must have missed the "size" when looking at the photo


No worries, just thought I would help out

[BlkDrew]

No worries, just thought I would help out

Shane gave me the great idea of a 42x3.5 maddy or other, for us Northerners. :D

and because everyone loves pictures...
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1051.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

Shane gave me the great idea of a 42x3.5 maddy or other, for us Northerners. :D

:tu Can't wait to buy some of your 42x3.5 Maddies:tu

[boxmonkey]

how are you maintaining the leaves?

[Ncpsycho]

Perfecto's.... That would be hard i guess

[deaster25]

I just read this whole thread for the first time. This is pretty amazing. I would love to get my hands on one of these beauties.

[BlkDrew]

how are you maintaining the leaves?

If I'm not using them I keep them dry. I remoisten them 2 days before use.
I keep the filler on the dryer side to begin with.
If your not going to use it immediately, let it dry out.

I also buy what I plan on using, I keep a low inventory.

Hope that helped.

[Bageland2000]

Cigars arrived today! they look (and smell) awesome! I'm going to gift a couple and let the others rest for a while. I'll be sure to include my thoughts when I burn these little bad boys. Thanks Andrew

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo336/bageland2000/20111214_213554.jpg

[chaase321]

Cigars arrived today! they look (and smell) awesome! I'm going to gift a couple and let the others rest for a while. I'll be sure to include my thoughts when I burn these little bad boys. Thanks Andrew

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo336/bageland2000/20111214_213554.jpg

Those look yummy :dr :dr :dr

[irratebass]

They are Cole

[Blak Smyth]

I see the Roxys popping up in the NC purchase thread now!:tu

Can't wait for the Roxy 42 Maddies!

[maninblack]

Got these beauties today!!

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/picklejack/1ba7efc9.jpg

[irratebass]

Beautiful Kevin :dr :dr

[chaase321]

Got these beauties today!!

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/picklejack/1ba7efc9.jpg

Master craftsman that Andrew is! Looks good Kevin, enjoy!

[Sam Leccia]

Love the fact that you took your hobby to the next level.

it's fun to learn and tinker.

if I could ever be of any help let me know, but your certainly doing an excellent job all on your own.

[Blak Smyth]

Love the fact that you took your hobby to the next level.

it's fun to learn and tinker.

if I could ever be of any help let me know, but your certainly doing an excellent job all on your own.

Nice gesture!:tu

[maninblack]

Love the fact that you took your hobby to the next level.

it's fun to learn and tinker.

if I could ever be of any help let me know, but your certainly doing an excellent job all on your own.

Wow! From a master roller himself! Great gesture Sam!

[BlkDrew]

Wow! From a master roller himself! Great gesture Sam!
I actually use a tip i learned from watching Sam roll, stainless work surface makes the job easier.:tu to you Sam

[Sam Leccia]

I actually use a tip i learned from watching Sam roll, stainless work surface makes the job easier.:tu to you Sam

I'm just a caveman...Your world frightens me.

[BlkDrew]

I'm just a caveman...Your world frightens me.
I really dont understand the statement.... how does my world frighten you?
meh, Caveman? I think not.


Sam rolling a nub, this is where i got my tip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMoRQ3WuseY

[Sam Leccia]

yeah i've seen that...i was surprised to see how many views it has...I have been told by many people that they learned how to roll from that video...I should do a real "how to" video that would be more informative.

I'm happy that it was a source for a tip for you....Thanks for the props.

[Blak Smyth]

yeah i've seen that...i was surprised to see how many views it has...I have been told by many people that they learned how to roll from that video...I should do a real "how to" video that would be more informative.

I'm happy that it was a source for a tip for you....Thanks for the props.

You really should!:tu
I have been really wanting to try rolling myself and have been following and conversing with Andrew about alot of different ideas.

[BlkDrew]

So i finally got my last shipment of Maduro Wrappers.... Good thing is Leaf Only was nice enough to charge me a couple extra $$ to have the leaves pre-opened, which means less processing time for me, and less tears in the leaf due to me being in a hurry.

Here is a pic, and for all of you that like the smell of the Roxy's, it smells 10 times better to burry your nose in this pile.

Pic is big, gives more detail
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1057.jpg

[chaase321]

yeah i've seen that...i was surprised to see how many views it has...I have been told by many people that they learned how to roll from that video...I should do a real "how to" video that would be more informative.

I'm happy that it was a source for a tip for you....Thanks for the props.

The real "how to" would be sweet! I'm sure it would have even more hits Sam!

[Blak Smyth]

looks like more earrings for Mac's wife there Andrew!

[BlkDrew]

looks like more earrings for Mac's wife there Andrew!

:lr

[Shawn hines]

Love the fact that you took your hobby to the next level.

it's fun to learn and tinker.

if I could ever be of any help let me know, but your certainly doing an excellent job all on your own.

Very Nice:banger

[Shawn hines]

So i finally got my last shipment of Maduro Wrappers.... Good thing is Leaf Only was nice enough to charge me a couple extra $$ to have the leaves pre-opened, which means less processing time for me, and less tears in the leaf due to me being in a hurry.

Here is a pic, and for all of you that like the smell of the Roxy's, it smells 10 times better to burry your nose in this pile.

Pic is big, gives more detail
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1057.jpg

Very nice looking, cant wait to see what you make those out to be

[Homebrewer]

Question on the use of pectin. Are you using some pectin when wrapping the binder? If so, where?

How much and where do you use pectin on the wrapper?

This looks like fun. I think I'm going to give it a try.

[mkarnold1]

I really dont understand the statement.... how does my world frighten you?
meh, Caveman? I think not.


Sam rolling a nub, this is where i got my tip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMoRQ3WuseY

Haha, I actually laughed out loud when I read the previous post from Sam Lecchia. It was a shout out to the good ole days of SNL, Phil Hartman as "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer". Check it out if you want to understand the humor behind the comment.

[BlkDrew]

Question on the use of pectin. Are you using some pectin when wrapping the binder? If so, where?

How much and where do you use pectin on the wrapper?

This looks like fun. I think I'm going to give it a try.

I use no pectin on the binder, and the only place I use it on the wrapper is towards the head when finishing.

[Flounder]

I use no pectin on the binder, and the only place I use it on the wrapper is towards the head when finishing.

Now I gotta ask, what is Pectin?

[Ncpsycho]

Like glue but no taste or smell

[Ncpsycho]

+1 on an actual video by sam or andrew on the whole pRocess

[BlkDrew]

Now I gotta ask, what is Pectin?

If you have a wrapper that is unraveling you can use pectin to fix it. You can also use it on small cracks.

[Blak Smyth]

Pectin is an all natural plant based paste/glue

[Shawn hines]

Can you get in the stores or something that you have to order?

[wayner123]

Can you get in the stores or something that you have to order?

You would probably be better off getting gum arabic. It's what the Cuban rollers use and most likely what other major manuf. use as well. It can be bought at health food stores as well as online.

[wayner123]

Alright, just ordered the leaves. And now I need to get some gum arabic and I'll be set. This is going to be fun.

[BlkDrew]

On to the new lists

5x50 maddie
1-Chaase321
2-GhostRider
3-Marlon K

5x42 maddie

1-BlakSmyth
2-Akumushi

also working on something new with Shane

[akumushi]

On to the new lists

5x50 maddie
1-Chaase321
2-GhostRider
3-Marlon K

5x42 maddie

1-BlakSmyth
2-Akumushi

also working on something new with Shane

Sweet, I'm excited bout the 42's. How long are you going to make them? A 6.5" cuban style lonsdale would be boss!

[ApexAZ]

I feel 90% better today, so maybe I can smoke and review a Roxy on Sunday.

Can you tell me what's in the test blend?

[Homebrewer]

This guy has a nice how-to series:

http://www.ehow.com/video_4953129_wrapping-cigar.html

[BlkDrew]

This guy has a nice how-to series:

http://www.ehow.com/video_4953129_wrapping-cigar.html

This is also great as well
http://www.tobacconistuniversity.org/campus.asp

under the tobacco college, the second column has wrapping videos, bunching videos ( the different styles) and binding videos.

Sweet, I'm excited bout the 42's. How long are you going to make them? A 6.5" cuban style lonsdale would be boss!
I think the mold will only be 5.5 at most. so if i have to trim the foot the longest i could get would be 5-5.25

[akumushi]

This is also great as well
http://www.tobacconistuniversity.org/campus.asp

under the tobacco college, the second column has wrapping videos, bunching videos ( the different styles) and binding videos.


I think the mold will only be 5.5 at most. so if i have to trim the foot the longest i could get would be 5-5.25

Nice. Coronas are great too! :tu

[BlkDrew]

I hate FedEx, they lost my mold

[Blak Smyth]

Nice. Coronas are great too! :tu

This!

Andrew that is terrible that your mold was lost!

[BlkDrew]

This!

Andrew that is terrible that your mold was lost!

Oh I *****e d out FedEx

[maninblack]

I hate FedEx, they lost my mold

A$$holes!! :su

[BlkDrew]

bored, wrapping up some remaining 5x50, which were bound with a CT shade, and dominican blend filler.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1058.jpg

[schollianmj]

so when are you going to offer sampler packs? maddie here, CT there... as yet Im not stuck on one type, I tend to bounce to everything i can find and would really like to snatch a 5er from ya.

[BlkDrew]

Are you looking for a one of each kinda thing?

[irratebass]

so when are you going to offer sampler packs? maddie here, CT there... as yet Im not stuck on one type, I tend to bounce to everything i can find and would really like to snatch a 5er from ya.

Are you looking for a one of each kinda thing?

That's exactly what I am hoping for too. When I get the cash this is my order

[schollianmj]

yes. one of what ever you have to offer. set up a few taster pack 5ers and Im sure they would be bought. I can pay pal you the money now. :)

[BlkDrew]

yes. one of what ever you have to offer. set up a few taster pack 5ers and Im sure they would be bought. I can pay pal you the money now. :)

the only ones i have in stock now are

CT premium shade with dominican filler (Limited Quantity)
Havana Prime with dominican filler (Limited Quantity)
Maduro With Dominican filler

The problem is, it is difficult to carry a large variety of wrappers. they take a lot more care in storage than the fillers and only having one mold at the time I can only do 10 cigars per batch.

I am going to start wrapping them in newspaper after being pressed to help increase production.

[schollianmj]

ok, well with what you got, how about 2 maddies, 2 CT, and a Havana Prime? :) Basically, I am wanting and willing to help support you and your rolling, and wanting to try these.... :) But if not, what can you do for a 5er now, and how much would they cost shipped to 22655?

[BlkDrew]

ok, well with what you got, how about 2 maddies, 2 CT, and a Havana Prime? :) Basically, I am wanting and willing to help support you and your rolling, and wanting to try these.... :) But if not, what can you do for a 5er now, and how much would they cost shipped to 22655?

I have a current list going. my last final exam is on monday, after that i will able to start increasing inventory. When i started rolling i was juggling a lot, I had work which was full time nights, school every day until noon and i had to fit sleep in there at some point.

now that school is done, i will have a solid 4-5 hours a day i can commit to rolling. I will start selling again once i increase inventory and let them rest a week or so.

[akumushi]

Nice, did that last 5/50 pick have a pigtailed cap? :tu

[BlkDrew]

Nice, did that last 5/50 pick have a pigtailed cap? :tu

When i apply the wrapper i have not perfected the continuous flag, so i pigtail them all, and trim it close to the head and apply a faux triple cap, i find it it much easier this way until i can perfect a continuous cap. ;s no pigtails yet.

[Shawn hines]

Drew, this thread has push me to the point of trying too roll myself....I hope that you won't mind if there is another picture thread on here at some point....

I was in Kuwait today when the last convoy crossed out of Iraq, your cigars were fired up.... Thank you for them, it means a lot to us. I have talked to a few of the guys about your rolling and we are wanting to try it out for sure now that me might have some us time. I am heading back south to Bahrain so things are looking up for Christmas.

[BlkDrew]

Drew, this thread has push me to the point of trying too roll myself....I hope that you won't mind if there is another picture thread on here at some point....

I was in Kuwait today when the last convoy crossed out of Iraq, your cigars were fired up.... Thank you for them, it means a lot to us. I have talked to a few of the guys about your rolling and we are wanting to try it out for sure now that me might have some us time. I am heading back south to Bahrain so things are looking up for Christmas.

I want this tread to include everyone's progress of you start rolling, that includes everyone, Shawn, Corey, etc.

Maybe the forum creator can give us our own section... "Rolling your own"

I'm glad everyone is safe. Heard it on the news. I hope you guys have a great Christmas over there.

[Shawn hines]

I want this tread to include everyone's progress of you start rolling, that includes everyone, Shawn, Corey, etc.

Maybe the forum creator can give us our own section... "Rolling your own"

I'm glad everyone is safe. Heard it on the news. I hope you guys have a great Christmas over there.

Alright so I will post as it goes...BTW congrats on having this thread take off like this I am number 376... And more to come I am sure

Everybody today was like a bunch of kids, the base I have been at is FULLED up with people that are taking HOT showers and getting good food in their bellies:tu

[hdryder]

I been following this thread for a couple weeks now & i gotta tell ya that you roll a damn nice looking smoke and it looks like you learned the process in a very short time. Keep up the great pictures bro cause I love looking @ them.

Cheers

Richard

[Marlon K]

On to the new lists

5x50 maddie
1-Chaase321
2-GhostRider
3-Marlon K

5x42 maddie

1-BlakSmyth
2-Akumushi

also working on something new with Shane





WOW!!!!!! I am on the list Thanks and you pick 5 - 50 for me

[CoreyD]

When i apply the wrapper i have not perfected the continuous flag, so i pigtail them all, and trim it close to the head and apply a faux triple cap, i find it it much easier this way until i can perfect a continuous cap. ;s no pigtails yet.
Hehe its funny you say this ,however I do have piggies....
I want this tread to include everyone's progress of you start rolling, that includes everyone, Shawn, Corey, etc.

I got pictures here and there but I'm shy and lately just reading others posts on the board absorbing and still trying experiments, however theres some guys at work loving the guinea pig role and right now reviews are 70/30 on liking them with many changes made throughout the project series. Resources keeps the hobby to a small hobby window,so like you having few molds and resources of time and leaves coming in keeps it to just a fun way to relax. With me being a perfectionist I will tell you its hard to make cigars for more than just your palet and eye. Some mistakes launched my rustic series idea and I'm just happy to be doing what I originally set off in this hobby to do. Now to find different farms, ages, etc crops.
I do say this Andy, keep up the great work. and I'll post pics of my press I made after that Pm awhile back telling you of my idea, I broadened it and it works great.

[kingcobradude]

could you put me on the list to buy a pack from ya?

[CoreyD]

As promised Andrew.
My modified invention
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/013-1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/012-1.jpg
and some eye candy for Mac. My first Madurro roll with some double ligero.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/009-1.jpg
Now heres where some of my maddies are now.They look darker in person.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/017-1.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

NIce work Corey, keep us updated on your progress brother!
Thanks for sharing!

[chaase321]

Looks like a good start Corey!

[CoreyD]

Example of my Piggies off my recovery series
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/019-1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/018-1.jpg

[kelmac07]

How do they taste Corey?

[Blak Smyth]

Loving the pigtails brother!

[CoreyD]

How do they taste Corey?
well draw was an issue at first then to much kick now I seem to have the full with full medium with medium and mild with mild all with '98 Nic fillers and '99 ecudorian sumatra binder all with different wrappers from havana to conneticut to different madduros. So to ask me how they taste they all have a different profile depending on how much,what of and size etc. But I do like them theres something to each one I like.
By know means is this part of the hobby cheaper than buying a box of good cigars the way the sales have been going on stuff lately but I originally got into the cigar hobby to do this part of it for my personal enjoyment. I am at the point where I grab these instead of the whats left in my mad jump last november-june purchases.

My next batches are some nic/dom mixes all with the sumatra binder. Its going to be my go to Binder. I like the extra zing. My draws are good , need to be more consistant on my old figudor sizes . The mold is vintage and I want to do them justice. The other Mold I have of an undisclosed ring guage is loaned by the local B &M owner whom probably wants it back soon hehe and that will cut out my regular formed rolls I have been using to make skinnies to churches with.
As far as the Madurros go, up close in picture they look wrinkly but up close in person the 2 kind of madurros look great with some minor changes needed on cosmetics but I kind of like the rustic look. The over powered ones I have some put aside to see how they marinate however I have 2 boxes of mixed from day 1 to now unmarked so its going to be a mystery grab each time except knowing what the wrapper is.
But like I said some tweaks all different with some similarities all a learning curve that I can't really calculate until they marinate into eachother with some rest time even though they are aged they haven't melted into eachother as a stick. As Todd says they're green give them 6 months. Only I need to keep my hands outa the boxes and the gifting lowered.
Sorry this is all drained on but I am very tired got home 1.5 hrs ago from some long hours at work. I worked 37 hours since fri night.

[wayner123]

Corey,

Where are you getting the sumatra binder tobacco from?

[BlkDrew]

Great job on the progress Corey. They are really starting to look better as seen with the pigtail capped ones. I have found blending to be easy with the dominican fillers, with the Nicaraguan fillers you have to be really precise, but once you get it, it is a great stick.

what do the molds look like without anything in them? just looking to see what you're working with.

[maninblack]

Wow. Are you on caffeine 24/7?:rwell draw was an issue at first then to much kick now I seem to have the full with full medium with medium and mild with mild all with '98 Nic fillers and '99 ecudorian sumatra binder all with different wrappers from havana to conneticut to different madduros. So to ask me how they taste they all have a different profile depending on how much,what of and size etc. But I do like them theres something to each one I like.
By know means is this part of the hobby cheaper than buying a box of good cigars the way the sales have been going on stuff lately but I originally got into the cigar hobby to do this part of it for my personal enjoyment. I am at the point where I grab these instead of the whats left in my mad jump last november-june purchases.

My next batches are some nic/dom mixes all with the sumatra binder. Its going to be my go to Binder. I like the extra zing. My draws are good , need to be more consistant on my old figudor sizes . The mold is vintage and I want to do them justice. The other Mold I have of an undisclosed ring guage is loaned by the local B &M owner whom probably wants it back soon hehe and that will cut out my regular formed rolls I have been using to make skinnies to churches with.
As far as the Madurros go, up close in picture they look wrinkly but up close in person the 2 kind of madurros look great with some minor changes needed on cosmetics but I kind of like the rustic look. The over powered ones I have some put aside to see how they marinate however I have 2 boxes of mixed from day 1 to now unmarked so its going to be a mystery grab each time except knowing what the wrapper is.
But like I said some tweaks all different with some similarities all a learning curve that I can't really calculate until they marinate into eachother with some rest time even though they are aged they haven't melted into eachother as a stick. As Todd says they're green give them 6 months. Only I need to keep my hands outa the boxes and the gifting lowered.
Sorry this is all drained on but I am very tired got home 1.5 hrs ago from some long hours at work. I worked 37 hours since fri night.

[irratebass]

Great start Corey, keep us updated on your progress.....I do dig the pigtails

[BlkDrew]

Still no mold.... WTF! I am pissed. I sent an email to the company I bought it from stating I wanted either a full refund, or a mold by December 23rd I figured that was fair.

[irratebass]

Still no mold.... WTF! I am pissed. I sent an email to the company I bought it from stating I wanted either a full refund, or a mold by December 23rd I figured that was fair.

Very fair :su:su:su:su:su

[maninblack]

That's BS Andrew!! Sorry to hear.

[chaase321]

Still no mold.... WTF! I am pissed. I sent an email to the company I bought it from stating I wanted either a full refund, or a mold by December 23rd I figured that was fair.

I say you give us the address! We'll :sl:gary:su We don't want you waiting around on molds, we need Drew up and rolling more sticks!! :tu

[BlkDrew]

FedEx states that it may not even have been picked up. Even though it shows a pickup scan when you track it. FedEx doesn't know where it is. Every time I call them they just say there were no updates, bull get off your ass and look for the package.

I have asked the company to send me a replacement mold in the meantime and they basically said no. The 42x5 is the second to last one in inventory. So that is where it stands

[schollianmj]

How did you pay for said mold... if it was with a credit card, call teh card company and file a complaint.

[BlkDrew]

How did you pay for said mold... if it was with a credit card, call teh card company and file a complaint.

Postal money order. My main issue is with FedEx right now, if the company doesn't make it right, then there will be a problem there.

[Crownedone]

Corey, I love the rough look to the smokes. Keep up the great work.

[ApexAZ]

Andrew,

I smoked both sticks today. Loved them both! Had some draw issues on the nic, but the blend was nothing short of amazing. I posted the review in the NC review forum.

The test blend was not as complex, but also very good and had no burn or draw problems. Thanks for the trade! I'm so glad I got to try them. I don't know if I have the time or patience to roll any myself, so please do continue in your endeavor so that I can buy some more in the future!

Again: Awsome!

[Shawn hines]

Alright, Finally got the order in for the leaves. SO it will be a couple of weeks but let it begin. I will posting what I do and how it goes.

[BlkDrew]

Looks like I won't be getting a second mold. FedEx said I should contact the supplier and ask for a new item, or refund.

I am waiting on a call back from the company, she said she would call FedEx to see what she needed to do.

Honestly, if I owned the company, I would have sent out a new mold and just expected the lost one be returned if it shows up.

So I guess we are sticking with 5x50 for now.

[ApexAZ]

Looks like I won't be getting a second mold. FedEx said I should contact the supplier and ask for a new item, or refund.

I am waiting on a call back from the company, she said she would call FedEx to see what she needed to do.

Honestly, if I owned the company, I would have sent out a new mold and just expected the lost one be returned if it shows up.

So I guess we are sticking with 5x50 for now.

Sorry to hear that =(

Is it something they can easily replace? It sounds like it. Not sure why they wouldn't just send a replacement either.

[irratebass]

Bummer Andrew, hopefully someone gets off their butt and gets this corrected.

[Blak Smyth]

They might need to hear something directly from Fedex to prevent people from receiving an item and then calling and saying it was never delivered?
Hope it all works out Andrew! Really hoping!

[chaase321]

They might need to hear something directly from Fedex to prevent people from receiving an item and then calling and saying it was never delivered?
Hope it all works out Andrew! Really hoping!

^
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This...but also, I thought you had said Fedex shows receipt of the electronic info but nothing else?

Anyway, hopefully they get it all figured out and you get what you need...in the mean time, I'm sure the 5x50's are great, this gives you more time to 'build up' stock! :banger

[Mattso3000]

Andrew, just because your new mold received a pickup scan doesn't necessarily mean FedEX actually picked it up. Typically, they would just scan one barcode with all of the parcels from the shipper linked to it and take the packages. If the driver was being careful, he would match the barcode manifest with the packages but I'm guessing at this time of the year he was probably pretty busy and missed it. That being said, if the driver scans it, FedEX owns it and is responsible for the parcel. If it did not have any more scans, they are responsible for the cost of shipping and the value of the item up to a certain amount unless it insured for a higher amount. It is the shippers responsibility to file the claim and be reimbursed for the lost product. I would think if they had any customer service whatsoever, a new mold would be on the way to you asap as it clearly wasn't delivered to you. If they can't do this, I'd contact the credit card and report it.

[Flounder]

Just got together with Andrew and had some smokes. I had a one of his Connecticuts, it was delicious. I can't write a full review, as I was focused on conversation as well as the cigar. It fit my tastes almost perfectly. It was real light, and mild, but not lacking in flavor at all. I am a Perdomo Lot 23 man, and the Roxy CT gave it run for it's money.

[BlkDrew]

Andrew, just because your new mold received a pickup scan doesn't necessarily mean FedEX actually picked it up. Typically, they would just scan one barcode with all of the parcels from the shipper linked to it and take the packages. If the driver was being careful, he would match the barcode manifest with the packages but I'm guessing at this time of the year he was probably pretty busy and missed it. That being said, if the driver scans it, FedEX owns it and is responsible for the parcel. If it did not have any more scans, they are responsible for the cost of shipping and the value of the item up to a certain amount unless it insured for a higher amount. It is the shippers responsibility to file the claim and be reimbursed for the lost product. I would think if they had any customer service whatsoever, a new mold would be on the way to you asap as it clearly wasn't delivered to you. If they can't do this, I'd contact the credit card and report it.
I'm all set now, the company is going to replace the mold. I should see it by January 1st or do due to the holidays. At least the company upheld their part.

[Mattso3000]

I'm all set now, the company is going to replace the mold. I should see it by January 1st or do due to the holidays. At least the company upheld their part.

:tu Now back to the cigars...:r

[Shawn hines]

Andrew I wanted to thank you for hooking me up with John from www.leafonly.com He helped me with what I wanted and threw in some extra leafs and some glue on the house. He is shipping to my FPO so I should see them in a couple of weeks (Hopefully)
I will post some pictures when I get this thing started.
How are you storing your leaf?

[wayner123]

I have and still am going through a ton of videos on youtube. I ran across this one today and I found it most interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2U5TKY2kh8

Anyone want to take a stab at what looks off in this video?

[mkarnold1]

I have and still am going through a ton of videos on youtube. I ran across this one today and I found it most interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2U5TKY2kh8

Anyone want to take a stab at what looks off in this video?

He was using an accordion method to roll rather than the entubado method most often associated with Cuban cigars? Just a guess, awesome video.

[wayner123]

He was using an accordion method to roll rather than the entubado method most often associated with Cuban cigars? Just a guess, awesome video.

Bingo!! I have watched tons of video's and every one of the Cuban Torcedor's use the entubado method. This guy is supposedly over the Partagas factory and their rollers, but uses the accordion bunching? Weird. :confused:

[BlkDrew]

Andrew I wanted to thank you for hooking me up with John from www.leafonly.com He helped me with what I wanted and threw in some extra leafs and some glue on the house. He is shipping to my FPO so I should see them in a couple of weeks (Hopefully)
I will post some pictures when I get this thing started.
How are you storing your leaf?

The filler I keep on the dry side. I prep and pre moisten the wrapper 2 days before I use it. But if I'm not using it at all it is best kept dry.

[irratebass]

I'm all set now, the company is going to replace the mold. I should see it by January 1st or do due to the holidays. At least the company upheld their part.

Gald to hear it Andrew!!!! :noon-(P:noon

[Homebrewer]

http://smokinghotcigarchick.com/cigar-safari-joya-de-nicaragua-visit-part-i

This is a good video to watch. All my stuff is ordered. I'll be reporting back on my progress.

[BlkDrew]

http://smokinghotcigarchick.com/cigar-safari-joya-de-nicaragua-visit-part-i

This is a good video to watch. All my stuff is ordered. I'll be reporting back on my progress.

Where did you order from? Mold? Just curious

[wayner123]

Have any of you experimented with different bunching to see if that had any influence on flavor?

[ApexAZ]

Here is a really interesting topic on bunching:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51516

[wayner123]

Here is a really interesting topic on bunching:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51516

Here is a video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO8wSHPusmY

[Homebrewer]

Where did you order from? Mold? Just curious

I got the bench cutter and mold on ebay. It remains to be seen if the mold is still usable. I figure if I buy a few of them, I'll get one that still works. I've read that they warp etc.. I'm going to clamp it with a couple of big old clamps that my dad has in his garage.

[CoreyD]

Argggggghhhhhh. So I need to vent. I had some moistened leaves put aside for madurro and havana wraps. the leaves were put together with some 13 yr Ligero 12 year sumatra binder and stored someplace where there's mold. when finding out my leaves were down there I grabbed them on my way out to work. So I opened up the bin and whoa an icky smell of ammonia came.
I opened up the bag with madurros and mold ugly mold. The binders just got a smell that air kinda took care of.
Sad part is we are talking over $100 worth of leaves of all different kinds. And this is why I did not want the leaves in the basement. man o man. I tossed the moldy stuff leaving no madurro wraps, Tossed the nic seco cause I just got some new in and will hope the sumatra binder stays untainted. this way I can still get some batches in rest for my upcoming sobriety anniversary in Feb and trout fishing trips in may and June.
Worse comes worse in Jan I will order my next leaves for my next series and make this last 2 blends very limited.....

[BlkDrew]

I only moisten the leaves if I am going to use them in a day or two. Otherwise they stay dry.

[CoreyD]

I only moisten the leaves if I am going to use them in a day or two. Otherwise they stay dry.
Yeah that was my intentions but I did 4 days and someone at the house figured she would make room by sticking them in basement 3 days ago and I didn't notice they were down there till I went to grab them from the spot in the apartment I had them.

[ApexAZ]

Argggggghhhhhh. So I need to vent. I had some moistened leaves put aside for madurro and havana wraps. the leaves were put together with some 13 yr Ligero 12 year sumatra binder and stored someplace where there's mold. when finding out my leaves were down there I grabbed them on my way out to work. So I opened up the bin and whoa an icky smell of ammonia came.
I opened up the bag with madurros and mold ugly mold. The binders just got a smell that air kinda took care of.
Sad part is we are talking over $100 worth of leaves of all different kinds. And this is why I did not want the leaves in the basement. man o man. I tossed the moldy stuff leaving no madurro wraps, Tossed the nic seco cause I just got some new in and will hope the sumatra binder stays untainted. this way I can still get some batches in rest for my upcoming sobriety anniversary in Feb and trout fishing trips in may and June.
Worse comes worse in Jan I will order my next leaves for my next series and make this last 2 blends very limited.....

Sorry man, that sucks. Congrats on your sobriety :)

[CoreyD]

So I gifted a gal that works at the local B & M a Dominican blend with a Connecticut premium wrapper off my Recovery series and shes a medium smoker and after I called her a couple hours later she said that I am on to something with that blend. My pure nic filler was to much with the sumatra binder but she says she likes the Dominican blend and I'm really onto something if I tighten my draw up a little. She says its an effortless draw at this point. But burns great no fixing great smell great taste.
Sorry man, that sucks. Congrats on your sobriety :)

Ty it will be my 10th year in Feb.

[CoreyD]

Heres answering Andy's question on the molds
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/005-4.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/006-2.jpg
and not sure if you can make it out, here my bands for my dominican blend
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/sylence_2006/008-2.jpg
Its my initials CD then the word Dominican on the left and the word recovery on the right

[Crownedone]

I was finally able to get home pick up my 5er of Maduro Roxys. They look and smell incredible! It is going to be so hard to let them sit for a while before burning one.

[boxmonkey]

well today for christmas the wife had picked up some leaves and a mold. I rolled two tonight and wow between the first two a huge step forward just in those two rolls. will try this again tomorrow.

[BlkDrew]

well today for christmas the wife had picked up some leaves and a mold. I rolled two tonight and wow between the first two a huge step forward just in those two rolls. will try this again tomorrow.

We need pictures! Great to hear you started rolling.

[boxmonkey]

We need pictures! Great to hear you started rolling.

Well I have two as of right now

last nights second attempt. not packed tight enough

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/IMG_20111225_234255.jpg


and waiting on the time for this one to come out of the mold right now

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/IMG_20111226_131959.jpg

[BlkDrew]

Well I have two as of right now

last nights second attempt. not packed tight enough


What types of tobacco are you using for each step?
they are looking pretty good

[BlkDrew]

i have been busy the past couple of days.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1074.jpg

broken down
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1075.jpg

more to do today.

[boxmonkey]

What types of tobacco are you using for each step?
they are looking pretty good

the wife picked up nicraguan seco, ligero and DW2 off leaf only. so DW2 I'm using as the binder and wrapper for right now. not really too concerned on the actual taste out come right now. just working on the mechanics of it. but I'm doing a 50/50 ligero and seco blend. so yea a double maduro right now.

[Flounder]

i have been busy the past couple of days.
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1074.jpg

broken down
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1075.jpg

more to do today.

Looks delicious Drew. I got a handfull of cello sleeves for you, lets get together and smoke something soon.

[Shawn hines]

Well got my tobacco order in today, but no glue and missing some of the filler....So I guess I will be waiting for the next box to show up....

[wayner123]

Well got my tobacco order in today, but no glue and missing some of the filler....So I guess I will be waiting for the next box to show up....

If it's from leafonly, you may want to call them. I had part of my order missing as well and had to call him in order to make it right.

[Blak Smyth]

i have been busy the past couple of days.
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broken down
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more to do today.

Those Maddies are looking:dr, keep up the great work brother!

[DaBear]

Gonna be placing my own order for some leaves in the next few days. Waiting on molds as my boss may have some that he's willing to part with. As for a cheveta I'm thinking of getting a Xikar Cigar Knife(http://www.xikar.com/products/cutters/cigar-cut-knife), cuz yay for multipurposing and its super sharp from prior experience, but if a true cheveta has more merits to it for cutting then I'll go with that.

Oh, and has anyone tried using a plastic cutting board as opposed to a wooden one? I don't have a wooden one at the moment and would rather save the extra cash, but I already have plans for a trip to Target shortly after I get back down to Raleigh.

[BlkDrew]

Gonna be placing my own order for some leaves in the next few days. Waiting on molds as my boss may have some that he's willing to part with. As for a cheveta I'm thinking of getting a Xikar Cigar Knife(http://www.xikar.com/products/cutters/cigar-cut-knife), cuz yay for multipurposing and its super sharp from prior experience, but if a true cheveta has more merits to it for cutting then I'll go with that.

Oh, and has anyone tried using a plastic cutting board as opposed to a wooden one? I don't have a wooden one at the moment and would rather save the extra cash, but I already have plans for a trip to Target shortly after I get back down to Raleigh.

If you can't get or use a cheveta, use a pizza cutter. Make sure it's brand new do there are no chips in the blade

[DaBear]

If you can't get or use a cheveta, use a pizza cutter. Make sure it's brand new do there are no chips in the blade

Alright, thanks for the advice!

[Shawn hines]

If you can't get or use a cheveta, use a pizza cutter. Make sure it's brand new do there are no chips in the blade

Thank you for the tips, This is what I have got

[irratebass]

Yo Andrew, I'd like to be placed on the list for some more tasties if ya don't mind, I have been busy and away from the boards, what wrappers do you have again?

[BlkDrew]

Alright, so I had a maduro today and I have noticed some big draw issues. Maybe it needs some more rest, or it was too tight to begin with.

That being said, if anyone is dissatisfied with a purchase they have made please lete know through pm. I will gladly work out a deal.

I am just very bummed by it today.

[BlkDrew]

Yo Andrew, I'd like to be placed on the list for some more tasties if ya don't mind, I have been busy and away from the boards, what wrappers do you have again?

sent you a pm.

[Shawn hines]

So I got my order in the other day and I was missing filler and glue, Sent a email and John from Leafonly is sending me another box ASAP said he would make it worth my while.

Andrew, storing in a large tote be ok with everything? My room has never smelled so good.

[DaBear]

Oh yea, what is the best way to store them? Big ol tupperware container? And would it be best to invest in two and use one for dry storage and the other to wet the wrappers and binders?

Gonna finally place my order tonight so I'm there when it gets in as its only making the short trip from Ohio.

[Shawn hines]

Oh yea, what is the best way to store them? Big ol tupperware container? And would it be best to invest in two and use one for dry storage and the other to wet the wrappers and binders?

Gonna finally place my order tonight so I'm there when it gets in as its only making the short trip from Ohio.

If you are going though Leafonly.com, you should talk to John Wallace, he will get everything out to you fast and will make sure that it is right.

[DaBear]

If you are going though Leafonly.com, you should talk to John Wallace, he will get everything out to you fast and will make sure that it is right.

I found a different place to go through, but just from the email response I got I can tell he's gonna be a stand up guy.

http://www.wholeleaftobacco.com/

Got the Cigar Sampler which comes with 2+ lbs of tobacco, 1/2 of a seco, 1/2 of a ligero, 1/2 of some wrapper graded broadleaf, and 1/2 of a fire cured leaf(there's also supposedly a wild card extra thrown in but I'll be happy with just whats known). Asked for the fire cured to be swapped with the other seco he offers and to swap the ligero for the other ligero(just since "dark air cured" sounds better to me than "TN90") and he had no problems with it.

I can't wait to just bury my face in the broadleaf.

[chaase321]

Alright, so I had a maduro today and I have noticed some big draw issues. Maybe it needs some more rest, or it was too tight to begin with.

That being said, if anyone is dissatisfied with a purchase they have made please lete know through pm. I will gladly work out a deal.

I am just very bummed by it today.

Sorry about the draw issue Andrew. I'll let you know how mine are..but you are probably right, letting them sit for a while may help! Don't beat yourself up too much yet.

[BlkDrew]

Oh yea, what is the best way to store them? Big ol tupperware container? And would it be best to invest in two and use one for dry storage and the other to wet the wrappers and binders?

Gonna finally place my order tonight so I'm there when it gets in as its only making the short trip from Ohio.

Binders should not be too moist. They should be on the edge of moist and dried out.

Exactly on the storage. The wet stuff only has to be moist. And I wouldn't keep it moist for an extended period of time, two weeks max.

I am using plastic storage containers. When I moisten wrappers I usually place them in a plastic shopping bad for a day or two to even out.

[DaBear]

You use wet paper towels to moisten the leaves right?

The guy I ordered from claims the broadleaves are so large you can get 2 wrappers and 2 binders from each leaf(1 each from each half), but I can't just visualize how that would work in my head. Would you use the half oval shape cut out to make a wrapper as a binder?

Also thanks for the tips!

[BlkDrew]

I use a damp terry towel.

As far as using the broadleaf for binder and wrapper you'd have to us the outer portion for the wrapper and the inner for the binder, but I cut the wrapper when I'm going to use it. You'd have to set some aside to use on the next batch for the binder.

[Homebrewer]

Alright, so I had a maduro today and I have noticed some big draw issues. Maybe it needs some more rest, or it was too tight to begin with.

That being said, if anyone is dissatisfied with a purchase they have made please lete know through pm. I will gladly work out a deal.

I am just very bummed by it today.

Don't get discouraged. Are you keeping them in an over-humidified environment by chance? Try taking them out for a day or two.

I rolled my first two cigars yesterday. I was able to roll them and press them without much difficulty. The wrappers went on well, but my capping was a mess. I used the CT broadleaf as a wrapper and it had a lot of big veins. They look rough to say the least, but the shape was there. I tried to smoke one immediately and it tasted "interesting." Not bad at all. The burn was not good with a run down the side after the first 1/2. Although the wrapper was moist, it burned faster than the filler. My draw was good, but I need to put more tobacco in the cap-end. It was looser down there. All-in-all I think I did a decent job for the first time. I went back and watched more videos. Now I see more of the subtle nuances. I ordered from Leaf Only and my order was not right. I had no ligero, so I just used nic and dom. seco as filler with some Havana 7. The guy at Leaf-only was cool and made it right.

[Sam Leccia]

You use wet paper towels to moisten the leaves right?

The guy I ordered from claims the broadleaves are so large you can get 2 wrappers and 2 binders from each leaf(1 each from each half), but I can't just visualize how that would work in my head. Would you use the half oval shape cut out to make a wrapper as a binder?

Also thanks for the tips!

on large broadleaf, with the leaf de-veined and turned sideways, the top of the leaf would be your wrapper and the bottom (towards the vein) could be used as a binder...if it is not too veiny you could potentially use it as a wrapper as well getting 4 wrappers out of 1 full leaf.

***just note that maduro does not typically make for a good binder as the binder is key to the burn of a cigar, and maduro is notorious for it's less then perfect burn qualities.

[DaBear]

on large broadleaf, with the leaf de-veined and turned sideways, the top of the leaf would be your wrapper and the bottom (towards the vein) could be used as a binder...if it is not too veiny you could potentially use it as a wrapper as well getting 4 wrappers out of 1 full leaf.

***just note that maduro does not typically make for a good binder as the binder is key to the burn of a cigar, and maduro is notorious for it's less then perfect burn qualities.

Ah, thanks for the tip! I was planning on trying each of the fillers as a binder as well, just to see any differences.

[BlkDrew]

***just note that maduro does not typically make for a good binder as the binder is key to the burn of a cigar, and maduro is notorious for it's less then perfect burn qualities.

well that answers most of my issue. Never used it as a bind and I was almos going to. It was prob over packed.

[boxmonkey]

well that answers most of my issue. Never used it as a bind and I was almos going to. It was prob over packed.

I'm currently using the DW2 as a binder and wrapper. so far the burn has been fine for what I consider rough cigars to begin with. but we will see how it turns out when I get better.

[BlkDrew]

So my new binder of choice will be the QB-52, got a pound of it for 21.99, it is darker in color so it should be great for the 42x 4 double maddie

[irratebass]

So my new binder of choice will be the QB-52, got a pound of it for 21.99, it is darker in color so it should be great for the 42x 4 double maddie

Double MADDIES!!! :dr

[BlkDrew]

so the new mold finally shipped out. USPS this time. still took quite a while though. I think i am done buying molds and only sticking with these two. maybe i will get one or two off of Ebay.

[ApexAZ]

How much for a 5 pack of maduros? Something in robusto size.

[BlkDrew]

i will have to make some more, just moved into my new Apt so it wil be a little bit. i will let you know.

[ApexAZ]

Okay, when you have some inventory, please add me the list.

[boxmonkey]

after 5 attempts I think I'm starting to get a hang to this. still need more work but starting to feel better about this.

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at757PM5.jpg

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http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at757PM4.jpg

[Shawn hines]

Very nice. What size is that?

[BlkDrew]

after 5 attempts I think I'm starting to get a hang to this. still need more work but starting to feel better about this.


Those are looking good brother!

[irratebass]

looking good Ton'

[Shawn hines]

after 5 attempts I think I'm starting to get a hang to this. still need more work but starting to feel better about this.

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at757PM5.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at758PM.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at757PM4.jpg

So did you use a mold or these just rolled tight?

[Shawn hines]

Drew got the rest of my stuff in today, how are you storing your glue? Or do you make just enough?

[BlkDrew]

Drew got the rest of my stuff in today, how are you storing your glue? Or do you make just enough?

I just make enough, or if I'm doing more over a week I just cover it with foil or Saran wrap

[Blak Smyth]

So my new binder of choice will be the QB-52, got a pound of it for 21.99, it is darker in color so it should be great for the 42x 4 double maddie

:tu

[boxmonkey]

Very nice. What size is that?

robusto-ish 50 ring and about 4.75 inch I don't have to cutting machine I usually end up using the chaveta to trim down.

So did you use a mold or these just rolled tight?


I got a mold for christmas. the wife picked it up from leaf only. not really happy with it. it isn't exactly centered up. I'm going to look at getting the molds they have discussed in this thread sooner or later.

[Homebrewer]

I rolled my 2nd batch today. I received the Ligeros from Leafonly and wanted to try a few. I put a few in the mold and tried wrapping some in newspaper. The newspaper method worked well! They don't look too pretty, but I think I'm getting a little better with the rolls.
http://i42.tinypic.com/kn2nn.jpg

[Crownedone]

I love the rough natural look, keep up the good work.

[maninblack]

after 5 attempts I think I'm starting to get a hang to this. still need more work but starting to feel better about this.

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at757PM5.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at758PM.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/boxmonkeyracing/Photoon1-4-12at757PM4.jpg
Looks good brother!:tu

[irratebass]

My Roxy's arrived today
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/2012-01-05_18-07-34_377.jpg

[Shawn hines]

I rolled my 2nd batch today. I received the Ligeros from Leafonly and wanted to try a few. I put a few in the mold and tried wrapping some in newspaper. The newspaper method worked well! They don't look too pretty, but I think I'm getting a little better with the rolls.



Newspaper method, I think this is the first I have heard of this??? Please explain. Pictures would be great too

[Homebrewer]

In my research I came across a couple examples of cuban rollers using newspaper instead of a press. All you have to do is cut a long strip of newspaper about 3" wide and then, after you apply the binder, with the paper at an 75* angle, roll the cigar up tight in the strip of paper as if adding a second binder. When done, twist both ends of paper and let it rest 45 minutes. I was able to get a lancero shape this way and was surprised at how tight the bunch had become. It was as if I had taken it out of a press. Keep in mind that I haven't tried one of these cigars yet so I don't know about any potential draw issues, but they feel solid. Sorry, didn't take pics this time. I'll post some from my next roll.

[Shawn hines]

In my research I came across a couple examples of cuban rollers using newspaper instead of a press. All you have to do is cut a long strip of newspaper about 3" wide and then, after you apply the binder, with the paper at an 75* angle, roll the cigar up tight in the strip of paper as if adding a second binder. When done, twist both ends of paper and let it rest 45 minutes. I was able to get a lancero shape this way and was surprised at how tight the bunch had become. It was as if I had taken it out of a press. Keep in mind that I haven't tried one of these cigars yet so I don't know about any potential draw issues, but they feel solid. Sorry, didn't take pics this time. I'll post some from my next roll.

Very interesting, I would love to see some videos of how to do it and how they come out. When you fire one up let us know how it burns.

[DaBear]

In my research I came across a couple examples of cuban rollers using newspaper instead of a press. All you have to do is cut a long strip of newspaper about 3" wide and then, after you apply the binder, with the paper at an 75* angle, roll the cigar up tight in the strip of paper as if adding a second binder. When done, twist both ends of paper and let it rest 45 minutes. I was able to get a lancero shape this way and was surprised at how tight the bunch had become. It was as if I had taken it out of a press. Keep in mind that I haven't tried one of these cigars yet so I don't know about any potential draw issues, but they feel solid. Sorry, didn't take pics this time. I'll post some from my next roll.

I swear I've seen a video of this somewhere, but for the life of me cannot remember where.

[Shawn hines]

Giving a review on Roxy's tonight with a friend

Roxy review (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=52418)

[BlkDrew]

well we are settled in the new apt. She let me have the spare room as the "cigar room" for storing and rolling, not smoking (that is for outside) I got the new mold and turned out 10 of each today. the new size is a "40 x5.5" but with a wrapper i believe it will be right around 42. i can't wait to try them. I was very careful on how much filler i used making sure that they will not be packed too tight

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1089.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1088.jpg

[DaBear]

Just got my mold in today, a 6x50 round cap mold. Now just waiting on my tobacco which should have been here by now. Both the mold and the tobacco were sent from Ohio, the mold was sent a day and a half later and has already showed up, yet no sign of the tobacco. Hopefully it'll get in tomorrow and I can have my first batch of trial blends by Monday.

[BlkDrew]

Just got my mold in today, a 6x50 round cap mold. Now just waiting on my tobacco which should have been here by now. Both the mold and the tobacco were sent from Ohio, the mold was sent a day and a half later and has already showed up, yet no sign of the tobacco. Hopefully it'll get in tomorrow and I can have my first batch of trial blends by Monday.

did you order from Wholeleaftobacco? show us some pics when you get it in. i want to see the quality and if they prepped it at all.

[jluck]

Tip of the hat to you "roll your own" gents! That's really neat! hummm....maybe someday.
:tu

[DaBear]

did you order from Wholeleaftobacco? show us some pics when you get it in. i want to see the quality and if they prepped it at all.

Yea, thats where I placed my order. The guy was helpful and responsive so I'm not too worried, but still, even with USPS it shouldn't take this long, as proven by my mold shipment. If I can steal a camera from one of my roommates I'll do so as I don't have one currently.

Oh, and how long do you typically leave them in the mold for? 24 hours or just overnight?

[akumushi]

well we are settled in the new apt. She let me have the spare room as the "cigar room" for storing and rolling, not smoking (that is for outside) I got the new mold and turned out 10 of each today. the new size is a "40 x5.5" but with a wrapper i believe it will be right around 42. i can't wait to try them. I was very careful on how much filler i used making sure that they will not be packed too tight

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1089.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1088.jpg

These sound perfect for a short winter smoke. I'm still down for a fiver when you get some quantity made :)

[DaBear]

Well just got the order in, it was shipped UPS, so I guess it got delivered earlier this evening and they never bothered to knock. Any who, looks good, and he threw in a small bag of perique to play around with(though it'll most likely get chopped up and used for my pipes). It all looks good, pending what Don says about the Dark Air Cured leaves I got(both the seco and ligero showed up with white splotches all over them that aren't mold, but look more like something was sprayed onto the leaf itself). I'll post pics in the morning after I get a response from Don and have a chance to unpack everything. I'll probably have my first few thrown in the mold before I head up to Empire to watch some football.

[DaBear]

Whelp, that was a quick response. Don claims its "frog eye" and after a few minutes googling up on it, it certainly does sound and look the same, so problem solved. I'll have pictures up and my first few rolls done in the morning.

[DBall]

Better set aside a couple of those coronas for me, Drew... :D

[BlkDrew]

I got you covered Dan,

And as far as time in the mold, I do an hour, turn 1/4 and let them sit another hour. If the binder is on the moist side will let them sit in the mold for a day.

[DaBear]

First five are wrapped and ready for smoking. Gonna let them sit out and dry out some more, but I should be able to find a good blend with these. Ironically, the first one I wrapped definitely looks the best.

[Shawn hines]

First five are wrapped and ready for smoking. Gonna let them sit out and dry out some more, but I should be able to find a good blend with these. Ironically, the first one I wrapped definitely looks the best.

What is it that is said here??? O yeah Need pictures..LOL

Congrats can't wait to see them

[DaBear]

What is it that is said here??? O yeah Need pictures..LOL

Congrats can't wait to see them

Gotta get a camera first. :r

Tried 3 of my five blends, had 2 using the TN90 seco, first was with 3 half ligero leaves and ended up being too light and you couldn't taste the filler over the broadleaf so I put it down after an inch(imagine a FdO wrapped in broadleaf), the second was much better with 8 half leaves, I'll probably make a few with 10 tomorrow as I can tell it will taste better with more. The one with the Dark Air Cured seco was good on the first I tried, with 6 half leaves of ligero. It reminded me a lot of the La Casita Criollas, with just that distinct broadleaf flavor with a nice earthy undertone.

Just got done with de-stemming all the ligero and TN90 seco. I'll de-stem all the DAC seco tomorrow at work(assuming my boss doesn't yell at me for bringing my rolling set up with me).

[BlkDrew]

well i got to do some rolling today. I will finish the rest this evening. on the right you can see the petit corona (x2 maddie with the QB52 binder and maduro wrapper), then the corona extra (with QB52 binder and Havana CT wrapper, and on the right the Robusto (which is the double maddie)
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/vorand58/IMG_1090.jpg

[backwoods357]

Andrew, those look awesome.

Bear, so frog eye is some kind of a fungus?
I know literally nothing about tobacco maladies, so I did a little googling. I am familiar with water spots and the green marks sometimes called frog eye, but frog eye seems to be a fungus:
Frog eye: http://www.ipmimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1440028
Weather fleck: http://www.ipmimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1402062
Maybe frog eye is just a loose term.

It really is so cool to see so many brothers getting into rolling. :tu

[DaBear]

Andrew, those look awesome.

Bear, so frog eye is some kind of a fungus?
I know literally nothing about tobacco maladies, so I did a little googling. I am familiar with water spots and the green marks sometimes called frog eye, but frog eye seems to be a fungus:
Frog eye: http://www.ipmimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1440028
Weather fleck: http://www.ipmimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1402062
Maybe frog eye is just a loose term.

It really is so cool to see so many brothers getting into rolling. :tu

Did some google-fu of my own and was lead to believe that is was the result of too much nitrogen in the soil(or too little, one of the two :r)

[Ncpsycho]

Drew finally kicked a month long cold and started back to sticks last night ..... Some milagro and those roxys you sent me... Simply awesome even burn good draw and awesome flavor my buddy couldnt believe they were from a home roller.... Ill be ordering some more as soon as i finish these 5 since i have no room thanks