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acruce
10-07-2011, 03:26 PM
How do you think it will play out?
icehog3
10-07-2011, 03:55 PM
The Tigers will win in 6.
Het, you asked how I thought it would play out, Andy. :)
MedicCook
10-07-2011, 04:21 PM
Tigers in 5.
Either way I hope the AL wins the WS.
acruce
10-07-2011, 04:24 PM
Rangers in 7
acruce
10-07-2011, 04:25 PM
Should be fun!
HollywoodQue
10-07-2011, 07:24 PM
Tigers of course...woot woot
kelmac07
10-07-2011, 07:36 PM
Tough call here...Tigers are hot right now and they have a nice pitching staff. But the Rangers can score plenty and fast, and they have a very good pitching staff.
Tigers in 7 (because that means Verlander goes three times)
GreekGodX
10-08-2011, 05:08 AM
Tough call here...Tigers are hot right now and they have a nice pitching staff. But the Rangers can score plenty and fast, and they have a very good pitching staff.
Tigers in 7 (because that means Verlander goes three times)
Leyland said he won't pitch Verlander for 3 games in the series. He will only use him on normal rest.
I think the Tigers win in 5 so that won't matter anyway :)
GreekGodX
10-08-2011, 11:56 AM
After hearing Delmon Young is out for the series I'm going to have to change my prediction to Tigers in 6. We are losing a hot hitter in the 3 hole and that will change things in the series.
The Poet
10-08-2011, 11:58 AM
Dunno, and don't care. Like most of the nation, I won't be watching. :r
themoneycollector
10-08-2011, 12:21 PM
Rangers in 6
acruce
10-08-2011, 09:41 PM
I can't believe we are having this much rain. It hasn't rained this much here in months.
Dunno, and don't care. Like most of the nation, I won't be watching. :r
You sounds like David Stern when asked for the best possible NBA Finals matchup a few years ago. His response, the Lakers vs. the Lakers.
That said, I'm going to go with Tigers in 6. Tigers starters are all righties, as are their lights out setup man (Benoit) and closer (Valverde). Most of the Rangers better hitters are righties. The Tigers are mostly righty hitters vs 3 of 4 lefty starters. Numbers favor the Tigers on both sides.
icehog3
10-08-2011, 11:37 PM
Good job by the Rangers bullpen, they did a number of the Tigers. Tigers bullpen looked good too, but the damage was already done.
I can't believe how many HRs the Rangers have in their line-up for the regular season...impressive, though I would bet their numbers would be smaller if they played 81 games at Comerica.
Once again, Mother Nature f***s Justin Verlander. Don't be shocked if Leyland changes his mind and starts JV in Game 4.
GreekGodX
10-09-2011, 06:07 AM
Once again, Mother Nature f***s Justin Verlander. Don't be shocked if Leyland changes his mind and starts JV in Game 4.
I think that's what will happen too.
kelmac07
10-09-2011, 06:35 AM
Great game last night.
acruce
10-09-2011, 09:31 AM
It was a good game but man it took a long time to finish it.
themoneycollector
10-09-2011, 11:56 AM
Good game, I'm still holding my prediction of Rangers in 6.
icehog3
10-09-2011, 12:40 PM
Good game, I'm still holding my prediction of Rangers in 6.
Only possibility we can eliminate is Tigers in 4. :r
GreekGodX
10-09-2011, 01:46 PM
Game postponed until tomorrow at 4:19 ET. Lousy Rain :td At least Bud Selig got it right and didn't put the game at night during the Lions MNF game.
icehog3
10-09-2011, 06:13 PM
Pretty much fouled up my Sunday, had the night off and the beer chilled. :td
icehog3
10-09-2011, 07:42 PM
Ordonez out for the rest of the playoffs with a broken ankle. :td
Young re-activated to take Magglio's place. Interesting.
Blak Smyth
10-10-2011, 11:30 AM
Either way I hope the AL wins the WS.
:td
icehog3
10-10-2011, 01:05 PM
Young re-activated to take Magglio's place. Interesting.
Really? I was just on ESPN.com and did not see that.
icehog3
10-10-2011, 01:06 PM
:td
Go to the National League threads then. :r
Blak Smyth
10-10-2011, 01:07 PM
Go to the National League threads then. :r
:tu
Come on you know I gotta bust!
Really? I was just on ESPN.com and did not see that.
I heard it on the radio but here's a link:
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2011/10/tigers_delmon_young_added_to_a.html
icehog3
10-10-2011, 01:17 PM
Thanks Mike....wonder when (if) he will be able to play. The sooner the better.
Thanks Mike....wonder when (if) he will be able to play. The sooner the better.
Sure thing!
I hope if he does play that he doesn't aggrivate his injury.
BTW, you can read a number of great Tigers articles from 3-4 different beat writers at mlive.com:
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/
Local radio just announced Delmon Young took batting practice today and felt good. They also said Zumaya will be involved in the first pitch tomorrow night at home. I wish we had a healthy Joel in the bullpen.
CigarSquid
10-10-2011, 01:40 PM
Game 6, Tigers!!!
Mattso3000
10-10-2011, 01:50 PM
Rangers in 5. But only cause I have money on them.
Rangers in 5. But only cause I have money on them.
Given your Twins prediction, this makes me feel much better about my Tigers.
;s :r
Rangers in 5....be nice if Detroit could pull it off though (for the city)
The Poet
10-10-2011, 02:33 PM
Be nice if Detroit could pull it off though (for the city)
A win won't matter jack to the economic woes of Detroit, and since I doubt their fans would "be nice" the net result may be a loss, once all the wildfires and looting is done.
No offense intended, but realistically that's the likely outcome.
Mattso3000
10-10-2011, 02:35 PM
Given your Twins prediction, this makes me feel much better about my Tigers.
;s :r
Hard to argue...went 0-4 divisional round.:r
themoneycollector
10-10-2011, 06:18 PM
Good game 2 so far. If anyone thought the ump was short changing verlander in the strike box on game 1, the umps have made sure to make it up to the tigers in game 2. Some bad balls called as strikes at important times have helped the tigers.
acruce
10-10-2011, 08:57 PM
Walk off Grand Slam!!! That was one heck of a game!
icehog3
10-10-2011, 10:54 PM
No clutch hits for the Tigers, lots of chances with big bats up...and nothing.
Cruz has been a monster.
It ain't over....but it ain't good. :hn
BigCat
10-11-2011, 06:06 AM
A win won't matter jack to the economic woes of Detroit, and since I doubt their fans would "be nice" the net result may be a loss, once all the wildfires and looting is done.
No offense intended, but realistically that's the likely outcome.
No offense intended, but that is not realistically the likely outcome. Detroit has seen professional championships for the Pistons and Red Wings in the last decade and there has been no looting, nor have there been any wildfires. We've hosted the super bowl and the final four, and everyone has played nice. The tigers went to the world series in 2006 and there was no rioting either when the team won the ALCS, or lost the series. There are plenty of reasons to bag on the city - the behavior of its fan bases is not one of them.
A win won't matter jack to the economic woes of Detroit, and since I doubt their fans would "be nice" the net result may be a loss, once all the wildfires and looting is done.
No offense intended, but realistically that's the likely outcome.
I thought you didn't care?
And why would I be? I believe I made it clear that I was already happy with this season, and am never discontented to get a little gravy as opposed to a whole boatload.
Understand this: People who "hate" the Yankees claim they do so because they spend so much money, but that's not true. They do so because the Yankees have had success while spending money to accomplish this. Were they as ineffective as, say, the Os or Mets . . . or even the Red Sox over the past 2 years of missing the playoffs entirely . . . no one would give a damn how much they spend.
Understand this too: The Yankees have won more post-season games than any other MLB franchise. The Yankees have also LOST more post-season games than any other MLB franchise, so a rational fan has become inured to that fact. But perhaps, as a Tar Heel, I have that advantage over many others . . . I've been there many March days, as well as many October evenings. :r
Sounds like a lot of effort jumping into the Tigers/Rangers thread to spread your "indifference".
BTW, I love the 1984 references to riots. Check your calendar, that was 27 years ago.
You didn't see me ragging on NYC for the "Occupy Wallstreet" communists and their preference for deficating on police cruisers. Nor did I point out your former-governor's penchant for hookers.
Furthermore, the stealing done in Detroit is not done by mobs and looters; it's done by the local government. Ask the Hip-Hop Mayor himself, I think he's out of prison for the moment.
Now go away. :gary
RRocket
10-11-2011, 02:35 PM
^^Hey! What's wrong with hookers?? :)
As a big Tiger fan, I'm truly disappointed the team as a whole hasn't really shown up in the play-offs. Especially the big guns. Guys like Rayburn and Santiago out hitting Cabrera and V-Mart is pathetic. Verlander struggling. Heck, Porcello's WHIP, BB and hits allowed is better than Verlanders during the last 2 series.
And Leyland's continued corn-ball decisions continue to mystify. Seriously....Perry hadn't instilled any confidence during the regular season. Why put him on the roster at all? So he brings him in after Valverde struggled. I knew what was going to happen. As soon as Perry trotted out, I said "This game is over". And I was right. Perry has struggled in non pressure appearances. Did anyone really think he'd shine with a play-off game on the line?
I know I'm being harsh...but geez. The Tigers are a better team than this (I thought, anyways). I wish Leyland had been let go, honestly. He's NEVER had a sense of urgency about any game, has shown he can choke in key games down the stretch and eventually that lackadaisical attitude permeates to the players. I have never been a Leyland fan since he quit on the Marlins in 1998, then quit again with the Rockies. Once a quitter......
Go Tigers....but I'm not terribly hopeful after the overall poor showing of this team...
icehog3
10-11-2011, 03:00 PM
Perry hadn't instilled any confidence during the regular season. Why put him on the roster at all? So he brings him in after Valverde struggled. I knew what was going to happen. As soon as Perry trotted out, I said "This game is over".
This. Absolutely.
icehog3
10-11-2011, 03:24 PM
Detroit Tigers outfielder Delmon Young has been scratched from Detroit's lineup for Game 3 against Texas, manager Jim Leyland announced Tuesday.
Andy Dirks will replace Young.
Leyland said he does not know what Young's availability will be for the rest of the AL Championship Series.
The Poet
10-11-2011, 03:39 PM
You didn't see me ragging on NYC for the "Occupy Wallstreet" communists and their preference for deficating on police cruisers. Nor did I point out your former-governor's penchant for hookers.
Now go away. :gary
First, this skates dangerously close to being political, which is verboten. Me, I don't much care, but the ToE might. Second, I have no governor, former or otherwise. But New Jersey's former governor had a penchant for boys, not hookers. The present one has a penchant for Ding-Dongs. :D
Now go away? Now make me. And while you're at it, play your little games on time, and stop screwing with my TV schedule. :r
Mattso3000
10-11-2011, 03:43 PM
It's a baseball game...can't we all just get along?
The Poet
10-11-2011, 03:52 PM
It's a baseball game...can't we all just get along?
Amen, brother. And this here just a game too, as far as I'm concerned. I'm just trying to have some fun. Yeah, I dish out a lotta jokes, but I can take them too.
Mattso3000
10-11-2011, 03:56 PM
Great pitching match-up coming up tonight. Lewis is 4-0 in the playoffs and coming off of a good pitching performance against the rays. Fister pitched a great game against the Yankees in game 5 and finished the season 4-0 with a .98 ERA at home. Going to be a fun one to watch.
The Poet
10-11-2011, 04:02 PM
Great pitching match-up coming up tonight. Lewis is 4-0 in the playoffs and coming off of a good pitching performance against the rays. Fister pitched a great game against the Yankees in game 5 and finished the season 4-0 with a .98 ERA at home. Going to be a fun one to watch.
And since I'll be watching CBS tonight, instead of trying to see Terra Nova and House, you can play 'til Wednesday if you want. ;)
icehog3
10-11-2011, 04:14 PM
And since I'll be watching CBS tonight, instead of trying to see Terra Nova and House, you can play 'til Wednesday if you want. ;)
If it was the Yankees and the Rangers, I would be watching Terra Nova reruns if need be. :lr And I don't even know what Terra Nova is.
The Poet
10-11-2011, 04:21 PM
If it was the Yankees and the Rangers, I would be watching Terra Nova reruns if need be. :lr And I don't even know what Terra Nova is.
Were I to be watching Yanks/Rangers, I'd likely have seen what I saw last night . . . too many men left on base, and a possible win pi$$ed away. :r
And Terra Nova is a decent new SF show about human settlers in a parallel world with dinosaurs, 85 million years in the past. It's too soon to know if it will be classic, but it beats watching another "reality" program . . . or two teams I don't care about. :D
icehog3
10-11-2011, 07:43 PM
Martinez hits a homer, and now he is hurt. Fudge.
play your little games on time, and stop screwing with my TV schedule. :r
I wish. I was up until almost 2 AM last night. DVR'd the Tigers and Lions on MNF. Huge dissappointment at the end of that 11 inning game.
Amen, brother. And this here just a game too, as far as I'm concerned. I'm just trying to have some fun. Yeah, I dish out a lotta jokes, but I can take them too.
It seems you get my point. My digs are as irrelevant to this thread as yours.
And Terra Nova is a decent new SF show about human settlers in a parallel world with dinosaurs, 85 million years in the past. It's too soon to know if it will be classic, but it beats watching another "reality" program . . . or two teams I don't care about. :D
I've DVR'd all the episodes so far but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I too am a SF guy.
Martinez hits a homer, and now he is hurt. Fudge.
He came back out and was walked without swinging the bat. He came out later and lined an out into left-center. He didn't seem to be in pain. I'm hoping he's ok going forward.
That all said, Tigers Win!!! :wo
icehog3
10-12-2011, 01:11 AM
Glad to see Victor swing hard after the "injury".
Also glad to see see him, Cabrera, Peralta and even Jackson making some contact. If Porcello can give us a good outing and the bats keep cracking, maybe Verlander will be pitching for the 3-2 lead.
Glad to see Victor swing hard after the "injury".
Also glad to see see him, Cabrera, Peralta and even Jackson making some contact. If Porcello can give us a good outing and the bats keep cracking, maybe Verlander will be pitching for the 3-2 lead.
What he said, plus I hope the weather holds out. As of now Verlander could be getting rain AGAIN. :td
Both Delmon Youn and Victor Martinez are in the starting lineup for Game 4.
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2011/10/tigers_victor_martinez_delmon.html
TonySmith
10-12-2011, 07:50 PM
Screw viagra, I'm not sure my heart is healthy enough to watch the Rangers
acruce
10-12-2011, 08:48 PM
This has been one exciting series...
Jasonw560
10-12-2011, 10:47 PM
The Tigers need to keep the Rangers out of extra inning games. If they get there, end it in 10. If it goes to 11, hope Nelson Cruz isn't batting. If he is, intentionally walk him. Especially if the bases are loaded. Just sayin'. can't wait for game 5. Hope C J pitches better tomorrow.
BigCat
10-13-2011, 07:10 AM
Rangers are just looking like a better team right now. That lineup doesn't have a lot of holes in it and it's making all the difference. It sure would be nice to have a healthy Bosch and Young out there right now. Not that we're out of it just yet - I expect Verlander to win today and I like how Scherzer pitched in Texas. And of course anything can happen in a game 7, especially with Fister pitching. As a side note, I'm really sorry we gave up Furbush in the Fister deal. Having both of those guys on the team would have been awesome.
The Tigers need to keep the Rangers out of extra inning games. If they get there, end it in 10. If it goes to 11, hope Nelson Cruz isn't batting. If he is, intentionally walk him. Especially if the bases are loaded. Just sayin'. can't wait for game 5. Hope C J pitches better tomorrow.
True enough. Tigers should have won that with a sac-fly in the 8th. Napoli played it well, Cabrera did not.
GreekGodX
10-13-2011, 12:55 PM
Rangers are just looking like a better team right now. That lineup doesn't have a lot of holes in it and it's making all the difference. It sure would be nice to have a healthy Bosch and Young out there right now. Not that we're out of it just yet - I expect Verlander to win today and I like how Scherzer pitched in Texas. And of course anything can happen in a game 7, especially with Fister pitching. As a side note, I'm really sorry we gave up Furbush in the Fister deal. Having both of those guys on the team would have been awesome.
Agreed on all accounts.
I still have hope..
shark
10-13-2011, 06:01 PM
A win won't matter jack to the economic woes of Detroit, and since I doubt their fans would "be nice" the net result may be a loss, once all the wildfires and looting is done.
No offense intended, but realistically that's the likely outcome.
:gary
icehog3
10-13-2011, 06:37 PM
We're goin' back to Texas. :)
GreekGodX
10-13-2011, 08:18 PM
We're goin' back to Texas. :)
:wo 2 more games! Hope the Tigers saved some hits for while they are in Texas.
themoneycollector
10-13-2011, 09:03 PM
Wilson should have been pulled much earlier in this game. I almost thought they were holding him in to concede the game to Detroit rather than wear out the BP, and instead get some rest and be ready to take the next game.
Either way, Texas still managed some runs and I think they will close out the series in Game 6.
BigCat
10-13-2011, 09:10 PM
Wilson should have been pulled much earlier in this game. I almost thought they were holding him in to concede the game to Detroit rather than wear out the BP, and instead get some rest and be ready to take the next game.
Either way, Texas still managed some runs and I think they will close out the series in Game 6.
I definitely thought Washington managed like he had a 3-1 lead, which may have been the right way to do it. Both bullpens have been taxed and I can't blame him for thinking he has 2 home games to wrap this up. That said, anything can happen. I'm obviously hoping for the Tigers to take 2 more.
icehog3
10-13-2011, 11:32 PM
Tigers saved their bullpen too, Boys. ;)
Hope Scherzer can pitch another one like the last one. If so, we may get to see Mr. Fister in Game 7.
Max to face off against the "Dutch-Stache" in Game 6. I hope the lively bats (Tigers' bats) carry over and that Sherzer is sharp.
acruce
10-14-2011, 04:44 PM
I think the Rangers will close out the series in Game 6. If Holland struggles at all I think you will see Washington put in Scott Feldman.I think Holland will be on a very short leash.
TonySmith
10-15-2011, 07:59 PM
nine run 3rd inning...go Rangers
TonySmith
10-15-2011, 08:30 PM
Detroit has played a good series and I hate to be premature but I think the Rangers have won. I think Detroit had better starting pitchers, but the Rangers had the better bats
Mattso3000
10-15-2011, 08:46 PM
12-4...Had a good year Tigers.
TonySmith
10-15-2011, 08:48 PM
I think the Rangers will close out the series in Game 6. If Holland struggles at all I think you will see Washington put in Scott Feldman.I think Holland will be on a very short leash.
Good prediction
RRocket
10-15-2011, 10:30 PM
Terrible managing by Leyland in this one, IMO. This game was a "must win" game but Leyland managed it like a regular season game. It was apparent to everyone (but Leyland) that Max didn't have it very early on, and the game would get out of control in a hurry at a time when you needed to keep it close. How much more convincing did Leyland need? Was it Max's inability to throw strikes, particularly first pitch strikes and getting behind nearly every batter? Maybe it was the 4 walks? Whatever Leyland didn't see, it seemed like everyone else was clued in Max didn't have good stuff. I was hollering for him to be pulled in the 2nd and bring Porcello in. Remember, this is the season on the line here and not a time to hope that Max would somehow, someway figure it out and turn it around. As usual, there was no sense of urgency from Leyland at all. It's a fatal Leyland flaw that he's way too generous and way too loyal to certain players.
Instead, he leaves him in too long and sets an impossible table for Schlereth. Then he pulls Porcello too early. Porcello would have been good for 4-5 innings at least. Sure Porcello got jobbed by a missed call on second, and if not for that the Tigers get out of the inning with little damage. Even so, why pull Porcello? You pull Porcello early, and you have to go to a bullpen that's been shaky at best for long relief. Are you trying to tell me going to Perry then Penny (who hadn't even pitched PERIOD) was a better chance of winning then leaving Porcello in and then come back out for the next few innings? I knew if he pulled Porcello, they had nobody reliable for long relief and the game was more than likely over.
Leyland blew this game. His questionable pitching decisions not only took them out of the game, but allowed the Tigers to be embarrassed.
Jasonw560
10-15-2011, 10:32 PM
Great series. The Tigers were a worthy opponent. They have my respect, especially since they defeated the Evil Empire in the LDS.
Go Rangers!!!!
icehog3
10-15-2011, 10:41 PM
Congrats to the Rangers and their fans, they were the better team in this series and deserve to move on. Their offensive line-up is like Murderer's Row.
Much better than expected season for the Tigers, they gave us some excitement.
Regardless of Leyland's managing, the team (pitchers and defense) gave up 15 runs, so I think there is plenty of blame to go around. Jackson, Avila, and others left their bats in the regular season, and the pitching didn't live up to the regular season either, with the exception of Fister. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat for a team failure. :2
Jasonw560
10-15-2011, 10:48 PM
Didn't Porcello give up about 6 of those runs in the 3rd? I was cleaning birds at the time, so I didn't see it live. Keep him in 4-5 innings, could have been about 20-5. The bats were HOT this game.
I agree with Tom. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat. He managed the way he thought was best.
RRocket
10-15-2011, 10:51 PM
Didn't Porcello give up about 6 of those runs in the 3rd? I was cleaning birds at the time, so I didn't see it live. Keep him in 4-5 innings, could have been about 20-5. The bats were HOT this game.
I agree with Tom. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat. He managed the way he thought was best.
Porcello only had 2 ER in the game. Would have had one if ump didn't blow call at 2nd.
icehog3
10-15-2011, 10:51 PM
For the record, Porcello only gave up 2, Jason. :)
Jasonw560
10-15-2011, 10:52 PM
For the record, Porcello only gave up 2, Jason. :)
I stand corrected. My faux pas.
icehog3
10-15-2011, 10:52 PM
I stand corrected. My faux pas.
It's OK, the other guys gave up 13. :r
Jasonw560
10-15-2011, 10:54 PM
It's OK, the other guys gave up 13. :r
:tu Still a great series.
icehog3
10-15-2011, 10:58 PM
:tu Still a great series.
Definitely gave me my most baseball enjoyment since 2006. Tigers have their top four starters locked up for a few years, so I am hoping for more October baseball next year.
Good luck in the Series.
RRocket
10-15-2011, 11:01 PM
Regardless of Leyland's managing, the team (pitchers and defense) gave up 15 runs, so I think there is plenty of blame to go around. Jackson, Avila, and others left their bats in the regular season, and the pitching didn't live up to the regular season either, with the exception of Fister. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat for a team failure. :2
It's Leyland's job to keep the game close with good management. Had he pulled Max early, the long relief could have started throwing with a LEAD instead of being behind and with the bases loaded. That's a HUGE difference, and is precisely what led to a 9 run 3rd inning.
Sure, not all the bats showed up (they still scored 5), but that's precisely why Leyland can't let the game get out of control.
Leyland blew it and in the process let a game that could have been close turn into a embarrassment.
icehog3
10-15-2011, 11:03 PM
It's Leyland's job to keep the game close with good management. Had he pulled Max early, the long relief could have started throwing with a LEAD instead of being behind and with the bases loaded. That's a HUGE difference, and is precisely what led to a 9 run 3rd inning. Sure, not all the bats showed up (they still scored 5), but that's precisely why Leyland can't let the game get out of control.
Leyland blew it and in the process let a game that could have been close turn into a embarrassment.
No, all the Ranger hits turned it into a 9 run inning.
We can agree to disagree, because I think more than managerial mistakes cost the Tigers the game. :2
RRocket
10-15-2011, 11:06 PM
No, all the Ranger hits turned it into a 9 run inning.
Because a struggling pitcher was left in too long and a huge mess was left for the relief pitchers. That's the manager's doing. This was a "do or die" game and it was not managed that way.
themoneycollector
10-16-2011, 12:12 AM
They are still a young team, and everyone was surprised with the Tigers this year. Great series though. Go Rangers!
acruce
10-16-2011, 12:21 AM
The Rangers looked good.
kelmac07
10-16-2011, 03:13 AM
Congats to the Rangers.
GreekGodX
10-16-2011, 06:56 AM
Because a struggling pitcher was left in too long and a huge mess was left for the relief pitchers. That's the manager's doing. This was a "do or die" game and it was not managed that way.
It is definitely not fair to blame this all on Leyland. Scherzer pitched two shut out innings before the terrible 3rd inning. Did you want to pull him after 2 runs scored that tied the game? You have to give your pitcher a chance to work through it especially when you don't have the luxury of a bullpen that can go 6 innings.
I was hollering for him to be pulled in the 2nd and bring Porcello in. Remember, this is the season on the line here and not a time to hope that Max would somehow, someway figure it out and turn it around. As usual, there was no sense of urgency from Leyland at all. It's a fatal Leyland flaw that he's way too generous and way too loyal to certain players.
Leyland blew this game. His questionable pitching decisions not only took them out of the game, but allowed the Tigers to be embarrassed.
In the 2nd Scherzer struck out the first batter, next batter grounded out, Nelson Cruz doubled, walked David Murphy, then Chavez grounded a ball that led to a fielders choice out to end the inning. You think because of that sequence he should have been taken out? If you were the manager and you're taking out a pitcher in the 2nd with a lead you are going to lose the confidence of your players. Porcello didn't really have it either, he also walked a batter and only got ahead in the count against one player (Andrus).
Leyland managed a good game, unfortunately Texas was just the better team. Are you going to blame him for the 2 fielding errors that we had as well? or like others said the cold bats?
Congrats to the Rangers. Tigers didn't have the clutch hitting or pitching they needed. I know injuries played a role, but not enough to be blamed for losing. Rangers had the better bats and better bullpen. Losing A.A.'s confidence late in the regular season killed the Tiger's pen. He was a rookie, so hopefully he can rebound next year.
I hope the Rangers can beat the Cards. Good luck guys.
icehog3
10-17-2011, 10:58 AM
Didn't you hear, Mike? It was Leyland's fault. :)
Didn't you hear, Mike? It was Leyland's fault. :)
I can't blame him for Game 6. Game 5 maybe. :D
I like 4 of next year's starting rotation: Verlander, Fister, Scherzer, and Porcello.
They need:
1. A 5th starter that is better than Penny, lefty preferred.
2. A starting 2nd baseman
3. A starting 3rd basemen
4. At least one decent reliever who can go more than an inning, lefty would be nice
5. A backup catcher who hits above the Mendoza line and has a decent arm
Any bats they add would preferrably be from the left side or switch. They are too right dominant both at the plate and on the mound. I figure the outfield will be Boesch, Jackson, and Young. If Rayburn could learn how to field at all his bat is good enough to start him. However, I believe he has the worst stats in history for anyone who has started at 2nd base.
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