Looking for rifle suggestions.

[rrplasencia]

Looking a larger caliber hunting rifle, say 7mm rem mag or 300 win mag. something good for a long distance hunt, 500-600yds. assume ammo and will be appropriate for the distance. I've looked at Remington 700's, browning x and a bolts, tikka t3 hunter. I'll be putting a muzzle break in. so looking for a smooth bolt, accurate, durable, dependable, 26" barrel, and not that concerned with stock.(wood or composite is fine) just not seeing anything that jumps out at me, and they all look the same at this point. am I missing something? any recommendations from experience? any info is appreciated, thanks in advance :gn

[LostAbbott]

I have no idea what to suggest. All of my rifles are pretty old. I do however love my .338 falling block. It is single shot so might not fit your requirements, but it is definitely different...

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[Lear31MX]

might want to check into Weatherby Vanguard line. Good rifles I have 22-250 that is a great shotting rifle. Or if you want to spend a bit more the Mark VI are nice to.

[T.G]

How about a BFG-9000?

[Lear31MX]

How about a BFG-9000?
:D love that game

[shilala]

Are you going to be shooting in the woods, brush, or in the fields?

[bobarian]

Go big or go home! :banger

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[rharris]

C.Z. Safari or american. Nicest rifles for the price on the market.

[Fordman4ever]

I love my Remington 7MM Mag. Great rifle.

[rrplasencia]

Go big or go home! :banger

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if I could afford the Barrett bmg I'd be posting pics of me smoking mojotos and Dom perignons mowing the yard. it's a beautiful gun, and I would love to blow a 8" exit wound out of an elk or grizzle at 1000 yards but way too much $$$$$,

[Old Sailor]

Go big or go home! :banger

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:tu:r

[Barcode]

Look at the Savage Arms Line

[designwise1]

I'd recommend a 280 over a 7mm Mag. It's just more versatile.

[rrplasencia]

guess I should include that I already have a 308 win, so I would want to go smaller then that.

[Newbie_nick]

Look at the Savage Arms Line

2nd that... They provide a great rifle for the $$$. I bought an off-the-shelf Savage in .308, and it shoots nearly 1/2" groups at 100 yards with decent ammo.

[Newbie_nick]

Sorry...2nd post....

What are you looking to do with this rifle? What are you looking to hunt with it? That will help the caliber discussion.

[rrplasencia]

Sorry...2nd post....

What are you looking to do with this rifle? What are you looking to hunt with it? That will help the caliber discussion.

long distance hunting/shooting. elk, mule deer, big horn sheep. probably not big enough caliber for bear or moose but shot placement could compensate for that.

[0002S]

long distance hunting/shooting. elk, mule deer, big horn sheep. probably not big enough caliber for bear or moose but shot placement could compensate for that.

You're asking the classic sitting around the camp fire, "what rifle do I need to kill everything in N. America question?".

ALL modern 6.5mm/7mm/.30 cal cartridges will shoot accurately at those distances.

I DON'T ADVISE you shoot game at these distances unless you really know what you're doing. You're going to waste a ton of money on guided trips with no luck. Most guides will not let you shoot at game at those distances unless they really know that you're capable of doing so. If you wound the animal and loose it, it's as good as if you bagged it as far as payment is concerned. (hunting advise portion of post over)

I suggest you get a 30 caliber rifle in a <24" barrel (NO muzzle break) and try to keep the weight to under 9 lbs with a high quality 1x-4x or 3x-9x scope (NO massive 50+mm front bell or 9x+ zoom). I routinely shoot 600 yds at 6" gongs with 4x scope. Please don't mess up a beautiful sleek light rifle with a honking massive scope on it.

The reason for a 30 cal is that there are a large amount of bullet weights to choose from and elk will more reliable go down and stay down, at those distances, with 30 cal (imho). I also give you options for African plains game, black bear and moose.

I'd take (in order)

1. 300 WSM - because of overall versatility and short action (rifle weight)
2. 30.06 - this really is a great round and ammo is everywhere and cheap
3. .308 - see 300 WSM and have less recoil
4. 280 Rem - my favorite light 7mm
5. 270 Win - this has to be on the list, but it's not 'really' and elk cartridge. (although it will do it)
6. 7mm Mauser - deer/sheep/goat...DEAD and has very light recoil + can be put into a light rifle.
7. 7-08 - see 7 mm Mauser but not a 'sexy'

All of the above will kill elk (the largest of what you listed) and for that matter would kill a moose with a well placed shot and good bullet. If you're really not going to go elk hunting and this is just the "hunting dream rifle" (nothing wrong with that) then I'd go lighter with less recoil and get a light 7mm Mauser/280/7-08.

As far as "what rifle?". I'd get a stainless steel, composite 'what ever' you're able to cheek up and have a good locked in feel in the off hand and for-end rested standing rest positions. All the major manufactures standard-to-top end rifles will have smooth actions and quality builds. SAKO and Tikka are great. Browning is overprices (imho). Win Model 70 and Rem 700 are standards. Savage makes a nice price point product. Weatherby Vanguard is nice as well. Really it's a matter of what 'feels' right for you.

Good luck, this is a rabbit hole and you're about to go down it.

:cf1

[BC-Axeman]

I like Shawn's advice. I think I would switch the .308 and the 300 WSM because cost of ammo, but that's because I'm cheap.

I would add that you should shoulder, cycle and dry fire the rifles. Try standing and holding aim for a while to see how it handles. I've shot some rifles that were very accurate but had clumsy actions or clunky triggers or were uncomfortable to hold, or all the above. My Rem 700 has none of those problems.

QFT (100-300 yd N.A. hunting rifle):
"I suggest you get a 30 caliber rifle in a <24" barrel (NO muzzle break) and try to keep the weight to under 9 lbs with a high quality 1x-4x or 3x-9x scope (NO massive 50+mm front bell or 9x+ zoom). I routinely shoot 600 yds at 6" gongs with 4x scope. Please don't mess up a beautiful sleek light rifle with a honking massive scope on it."

[AAlmeter]

You're asking the classic sitting around the camp fire, "what rifle do I need to kill everything in N. America question?".

ALL modern 6.5mm/7mm/.30 cal cartridges will shoot accurately at those distances.

I DON'T ADVISE you shoot game at these distances unless you really know what you're doing. You're going to waste a ton of money on guided trips with no luck. Most guides will not let you shoot at game at those distances unless they really know that you're capable of doing so. If you wound the animal and loose it, it's as good as if you bagged it as far as payment is concerned. (hunting advise portion of post over)

I suggest you get a 30 caliber rifle in a <24" barrel (NO muzzle break) and try to keep the weight to under 9 lbs with a high quality 1x-4x or 3x-9x scope (NO massive 50+mm front bell or 9x+ zoom). I routinely shoot 600 yds at 6" gongs with 4x scope. Please don't mess up a beautiful sleek light rifle with a honking massive scope on it.

The reason for a 30 cal is that there are a large amount of bullet weights to choose from and elk will more reliable go down and stay down, at those distances, with 30 cal (imho). I also give you options for African plains game, black bear and moose.

I'd take (in order)

1. 300 WSM - because of overall versatility and short action (rifle weight)
2. 30.06 - this really is a great round and ammo is everywhere and cheap
3. .308 - see 300 WSM and have less recoil
4. 280 Rem - my favorite light 7mm
5. 270 Win - this has to be on the list, but it's not 'really' and elk cartridge. (although it will do it)
6. 7mm Mauser - deer/sheep/goat...DEAD and has very light recoil + can be put into a light rifle.
7. 7-08 - see 7 mm Mauser but not a 'sexy'

All of the above will kill elk (the largest of what you listed) and for that matter would kill a moose with a well placed shot and good bullet. If you're really not going to go elk hunting and this is just the "hunting dream rifle" (nothing wrong with that) then I'd go lighter with less recoil and get a light 7mm Mauser/280/7-08.

As far as "what rifle?". I'd get a stainless steel, composite 'what ever' you're able to cheek up and have a good locked in feel in the off hand and for-end rested standing rest positions. All the major manufactures standard-to-top end rifles will have smooth actions and quality builds. SAKO and Tikka are great. Browning is overprices (imho). Win Model 70 and Rem 700 are standards. Savage makes a nice price point product. Weatherby Vanguard is nice as well. Really it's a matter of what 'feels' right for you.

Good luck, this is a rabbit hole and you're about to go down it.

:cf1

:tpd:

I have a Tikka T3 Stainless Lite in 30-06 and I love it. It is one hell of a gun with a super smooth action.

[Mugen910]

M-16 A2 service rifle is my choice :r

[rrplasencia]

M-16 A2 service rifle is my choice :r

your right, nothing like unleashing full auto. I was the boat shooter for swim calls(shark watch), not sure what I was going to do. but it let you compete against the other boat shooters a few times a year.

[Cigarcop]

I won't offer my opinion on which rifle but take consideration in ammo that would be readily available to you ( general store, walmart, wherever) if perhaps your on a hunt and lose, forget to bring it, drop the rifle and need to resight..ect....... So choose your caliber wisely

[rrplasencia]

and I'm not using a traditional break, it's called a Somabrake http://somarriba.com/gunsmithing/somabrake/ , so it's detatchable. makes my howa 308 win feel like a 223.

[Lear31MX]

You're asking the classic sitting around the camp fire, "what rifle do I need to kill everything in N. America question?".

ALL modern 6.5mm/7mm/.30 cal cartridges will shoot accurately at those distances.

I DON'T ADVISE you shoot game at these distances unless you really know what you're doing. You're going to waste a ton of money on guided trips with no luck. Most guides will not let you shoot at game at those distances unless they really know that you're capable of doing so. If you wound the animal and loose it, it's as good as if you bagged it as far as payment is concerned. (hunting advise portion of post over)

I suggest you get a 30 caliber rifle in a <24" barrel (NO muzzle break) and try to keep the weight to under 9 lbs with a high quality 1x-4x or 3x-9x scope (NO massive 50+mm front bell or 9x+ zoom). I routinely shoot 600 yds at 6" gongs with 4x scope. Please don't mess up a beautiful sleek light rifle with a honking massive scope on it.

The reason for a 30 cal is that there are a large amount of bullet weights to choose from and elk will more reliable go down and stay down, at those distances, with 30 cal (imho). I also give you options for African plains game, black bear and moose.

I'd take (in order)

1. 300 WSM - because of overall versatility and short action (rifle weight)
2. 30.06 - this really is a great round and ammo is everywhere and cheap
3. .308 - see 300 WSM and have less recoil
4. 280 Rem - my favorite light 7mm
5. 270 Win - this has to be on the list, but it's not 'really' and elk cartridge. (although it will do it)
6. 7mm Mauser - deer/sheep/goat...DEAD and has very light recoil + can be put into a light rifle.
7. 7-08 - see 7 mm Mauser but not a 'sexy'

All of the above will kill elk (the largest of what you listed) and for that matter would kill a moose with a well placed shot and good bullet. If you're really not going to go elk hunting and this is just the "hunting dream rifle" (nothing wrong with that) then I'd go lighter with less recoil and get a light 7mm Mauser/280/7-08.

As far as "what rifle?". I'd get a stainless steel, composite 'what ever' you're able to cheek up and have a good locked in feel in the off hand and for-end rested standing rest positions. All the major manufactures standard-to-top end rifles will have smooth actions and quality builds. SAKO and Tikka are great. Browning is overprices (imho). Win Model 70 and Rem 700 are standards. Savage makes a nice price point product. Weatherby Vanguard is nice as well. Really it's a matter of what 'feels' right for you.

Good luck, this is a rabbit hole and you're about to go down it.

:cf1

Very wise advice there!
I also have a T3 Tikka in 270WSM, great action, light and it's put elk and bison down at over 150 yards.

[Tbagley]

guess I should include that I already have a 308 win, so I would want to go smaller then that.

Surely you know that a 300 or 7mm is quite a bit larger than a 308. Other than that Shawns suggestions pretty nail the target.

[rrplasencia]

Surely you know that a 300 or 7mm is quite a bit larger than a 308. Other than that Shawns suggestions pretty nail the target.

sorry, typo, meant would NOT want to go smaller than a 308.

[Tbagley]

Richard I meant no disrespect by calling you Surely!:sl

[rrplasencia]

Thanks for some great suggestions. Not just building a dream rifle, in that case i'd find myself a 338 lapua, shoot $5 bills, while burning through a barrel every 18 months. I hope to have this thing in about a months time. Think i'm going to have to take a harder look at the tikka, i remember really liking the bolt, ultra smooth. I'm still considering the browning but only the composite stalker model, which seems to be one of the few reasonably priced rifles they have. I need to find a Remington 700 to look at so i'll add that to my to do list this weekend. The weather is basically just like my howa with a jeweled bolt. I know savage has come along way but i still remember the 30-06 i bought in 99' at a walmart outside the navy base. My best bet down here is bass pro shops, they can special order anything. the gun shows here are useless, just the same type of guys looking to get an AR, Glock, or a DPMS. :gn

[0002S]

Richard, if you want to shoot at 600 and 1000 yds, you can meet me up by Sarasota. There is a range there that will test the capabilities of your new rifle.

[Tbagley]

I would shop at Bass Pro to figure out what you want, but I would likely purchase online at a place like "Buds Guns" or elsewhere. Then just have it shipped to your FFL of choice. Unless money isn't an option.

Had a Tikka 300wsm, action was like butter and the trigger was sweet. Also had a Remingtion Tactical model, while it shot ok I didn't feel like I should have to put another $600/$1000 into it to make it reliable. I never knew if it was going to load the next round. But if you going to be shooting 600 to 1000 yards you may want something to build.

If I was buying again I likely would be seeking out a Sako. 300wm has a boat load of options.

[taltos]

your right, nothing like unleashing full auto. I was the boat shooter for swim calls(shark watch), not sure what I was going to do. but it let you compete against the other boat shooters a few times a year.I would put in another vote for 30.06 in a Sako bolt action. If you plan to do much with large game, you might want to look at the 375 H&H Magnum load. Very versatile with the range of rounds available and it hits like a ton of bricks. They gave squids rifles?:D

[rrplasencia]

I would shop at Bass Pro to figure out what you want, but I would likely purchase online at a place like "Buds Guns" or elsewhere. Then just have it shipped to your FFL of choice. Unless money isn't an option.

Had a Tikka 300wsm, action was like butter and the trigger was sweet. Also had a Remingtion Tactical model, while it shot ok I didn't feel like I should have to put another $600/$1000 into it to make it reliable. I never knew if it was going to load the next round. But if you going to be shooting 600 to 1000 yards you may want something to build.

If I was buying again I likely would be seeking out a Sako. 300wm has a boat load of options.


looked at buds pricing, by the time you add in tranfer fee at the fll it's ususally about $15 dollars cheaper than bass pro, plus i have rewards points. i'd love to build a gun but that seems like it would be a long way down the road before even thinking about dropping $2-$3k on a rifle.

and yes paul they gave squids guns, but only one of us at a time. ;)

[taltos]

Richard, Bao and I stand in awe of your awesomeness. Just kidding brother but you knew that a couple of Marines would pick on you.:tu

[Ratters]

I have a Kimber in .308 and i love the hell of the thing. They are so well balanced and light they are a joy to carry and shoulder. And the stock triggers are pretty darned good.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/858/products_id/411536194