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Blak Smyth
08-26-2011, 07:21 AM
I found this a little interesting:
Note: President Kennedy signed the Cuban trade embargo in 1962 but not before sending a lackey to purchase 1,200 fine Cuban cigars on his behalf! (According to moreintelligentlife.com)
http://moreintelligentlife.com/files/cigars.jpg
CigarSquid
08-26-2011, 07:41 AM
Interesting. Some big deals there when it declines.
WittyUserName
08-26-2011, 07:48 AM
Interesting indeed.
Bill86
08-26-2011, 07:54 AM
Isn't that beyond ridiculous? What an arsehole!
He signs something against cuba but not before buying shittons of smokes. He redefines the word douchebag.
Who the hell didn't call him on that and vote it down.
Brutus2600
08-26-2011, 07:58 AM
Wow...America smoked a lot of cigars in the early 1900's!
Skywalker
08-26-2011, 08:04 AM
Nice find!!!:tu
Emjaysmash
08-26-2011, 08:05 AM
Isn't that beyond ridiculous? What an arsehole!
He signs something against cuba but not before buying shittons of smokes. He redefines the word douchebag.
Who the hell didn't call him on that and vote it down.
Vote it down?
Dunkel
08-26-2011, 08:12 AM
Isn't that beyond ridiculous? What an arsehole!
He signs something against cuba but not before buying shittons of smokes. He redefines the word douchebag.
Who the hell didn't call him on that and vote it down.
Typical of a politician! To Hell with everyone else, as long as I get mine!
I hope this didn't violate any rules as I made a point not to mention of what party JFK belonged to.
pnoon
08-26-2011, 08:16 AM
Let's be careful here. Rules prohibit "politics" and "political discussion". Mentioning (or not mentioning) a party has no bearing on our rules.
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pnoon
08-26-2011, 08:17 AM
Isn't that beyond ridiculous? What an arsehole!
He signs something against cuba but not before buying shittons of smokes. He redefines the word douchebag.
Who the hell didn't call him on that and vote it down.
Put...the...bottle...down.
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kjd2121
08-26-2011, 02:13 PM
Isn't that beyond ridiculous? What an arsehole!
He signs something against cuba but not before buying shittons of smokes. He redefines the word douchebag.
Who the hell didn't call him on that and vote it down.
Do you believe he was the only one??
Brooks W
08-26-2011, 02:19 PM
Isn't that beyond ridiculous? What an arsehole!
He signs something against cuba but not before buying shittons of smokes. He redefines the word douchebag.
Who the hell didn't call him on that and vote it down.
Three Points:
1. This happened over 40 years ago.
2. Technically, he was well within his rights to buy those cigars, as ANY citizen of the U.S. could have done the same thing at the same time.
3. He is dead.
kgoings
08-26-2011, 02:21 PM
Lackey? He sent the Press Secretary, and he told him to get 1000...Salinger went above and beyond!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHazLBTZUEs
Skywalker
08-26-2011, 02:23 PM
Three Points:
1. This happened over 40 years ago.
2. Technically, he was well within his rights to buy those cigars, as ANY citizen of the U.S. could have done the same thing at the same time.
3. He is dead.
4. Love the internet!:tu
icehog3
08-26-2011, 02:29 PM
Civil rights, avoiding war with the Soviet Union, etc.....1200 cigars makes JFK a DB? :rolleyes:
kgoings
08-26-2011, 02:31 PM
Civil rights, avoiding war with the Soviet Union, etc.....1200 cigars makes JFK a DB? :rolleyes:
I would have done the same thing...guess I'm a DB ;) :r
But I would have called my friends and told them to do so also! :D
Skywalker
08-26-2011, 02:32 PM
but i would have called my friends and told them to do so also! :d
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Blak Smyth
08-26-2011, 02:33 PM
I was really surprised that so many more americans smoked cigars in the 20s & 30s.
I guess maybe there was less stimulation back then with TV and stuff like that maybe.
I feel cigars are gonna make a big comeback!
I wonder if the decline after the embargo is due to poor quality cigars from other countries at the time. Wasnt Cuban cigars the standard??? Maybe its taken the the past 50 years to get NCs up to par. Just a guess on my behalf!!!!
Brutus2600
08-26-2011, 02:39 PM
I wonder if the decline after the embargo is due to poor quality cigars from other countries at the time. Wasnt Cuban cigars the standard??? Maybe its taken the the past 50 years to get NCs up to par. Just a guess on my behalf!!!!
Strong point!
Blak Smyth
08-26-2011, 02:40 PM
I wonder if the decline after the embargo is due to poor quality cigars from other countries at the time. Wasnt Cuban cigars the standard??? Maybe its taken the the past 50 years to get NCs up to par. Just a guess on my behalf!!!!
Thats a good point. I have not been smoking cigars long enough to compare the quality but that would seem to make a lot of sense.
As for what the Pres did, I would have done it as well. What would any of us do if we found out starting tomorrow that all cigars will be illegal to purchase. I for one would stock up while I could!!!! Cant blame the man.
I wonder if the decline after the embargo is due to poor quality cigars from other countries at the time. Wasnt Cuban cigars the standard??? Maybe its taken the the past 50 years to get NCs up to par. Just a guess on my behalf!!!!
The big decline starts around 1970 and probably has a lot more to do with the anti-tobacco push that started right around that time with the passing of the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act than anything else. Prior to that, it went up and then fell slowly as could be expected from a knee-jerk gain in the 8 years after the embargo.
As for what the Pres did, I would have done it as well. What would any of us do if we found out starting tomorrow that all cigars will be illegal to purchase. I for one would stock up while I could!!!! Cant blame the man.
Very true
N2 GOLD
08-26-2011, 03:06 PM
As for what the Pres did, I would have done it as well. What would any of us do if we found out starting tomorrow that all cigars will be illegal to purchase. I for one would stock up while I could!!!! Cant blame the man.
Very good & strong point... :tu
The Poet
08-26-2011, 03:13 PM
Lackey? He sent the Press Secretary, and he told him to get 1000...Salinger went above and beyond!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHazLBTZUEs
That was my first thought too, brother. Pierre Salinger was hardly a lackey.
It seems some here wish to put the blame for the slide in domestic cigar sales on the embargo. Truth be known, the decline began after WWI, because the doughboys got hooked on those newfangled cigarettes during their service, and thus started the switch from cigars to cigs for the American smoking public. Furthermore, the vast majority of the cigars consumed before said decline were also produced domestically, from Tampa to the Northeast, and from coast-to-coast, whereas the Cuban share of the market was tiny . . . as with most other luxury items.
pnoon
08-26-2011, 03:26 PM
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