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jonumberone
07-18-2011, 06:33 AM
The MLB Trading deadline is less than 2 weeks away!!!

Who would you like to see your team acquire?

Who would you like to see your team get rid of?

Will there be any blockbusters? Or surprises?

Now that the Rangers are starting to pull away, does King Felix get moved?

For the Yankees, while the emphasis is always on pitching, I'd like to see them grab a stick!
Carlos Beltran would suit my desires quite nicely.
Also I would like to see them grab any Lefty specialist they could get.
Boone Logan is awful.

Does King Felix get moved? I wish!!!!!!

Coach Deg
07-18-2011, 07:47 AM
Rumors, Rumors, Rumors!!! I hear if Rays are still in it after this week they get Beltran, if out of it they go after Colby Rasmus.
Yankees are going to get Randy Choate he is the best lefty specialist in the game. They are also looking at Jimenez.

I can't see Felix being traded, but you never know.

I think Guthrie from Balt could really help a contender, take away his Boston and Ny games and he has an era around 3.00.

If Rays are selling I could see Upton going to Braves.

I don't think we get rid of Shields, his contract is very friendly.

I'm also wondering if we get rid Farnsworth? His stock is up he has been pretty good as our closer.

agctribefan
07-18-2011, 08:37 AM
I really want to see the Indians pick up a bat. Austin Kearns, Shelly Duncan, and Travis Buck just aren't cutting it.

Nothing is gonna really happen for the indians either. They are always sellers rather than buyers.

kelmac07
07-18-2011, 08:41 AM
Well we aren't a contender, but my Mets need pitching!!

I have also heard talks of Beltran for Upton...I'm good with that. :D Only down side is that whoever gets Beltran, he will be a two month rental. He is a free agent at the end of the year, so teams may not be willing to part with much for him.

Just keeping my fingers crossed that someone wants Pelfrey...HE SUCKS!!!

Dom...Beltran to the Yankees? And who are we getting in return?

jonumberone
07-18-2011, 08:51 AM
Dom...Beltran to the Yankees? And who are we getting in return?

A player to be named later! :D

Like you said, 2 month rental.
The only way the Mets will acquire any sort of prospect for him is if they eat most of his salary.
The way things are in Met land they would be happy to shed the $7 million still owed to him.

Not what you wanted to hear, but it's the truth!!! :tu

kelmac07
07-18-2011, 08:55 AM
A player to be named later! :D

Like you said, 2 month rental.
The only way the Mets will acquire any sort of prospect for him is if they eat most of his salary.
The way things are in Met land they would be happy to shed the $7 million still owed to him.

Not what you wanted to hear, but it's the truth!!! :tu

How about we throw in Pelfrey? :D

3SmokesaRound
07-18-2011, 09:09 AM
I'd like to see the Giants get Jose Reyes from Mac, I mean the Mets, but don't think that will happen. Instead I think we end up with yet another outfielder (Beltran or Upton) to go with the 6 we already have. I prefer Upton and a change of scenery might be good for him.

kelmac07
07-18-2011, 09:11 AM
I'd like to see the Giants get Jose Reyes from Mac, I mean the Mets, but don't think that will happen. Instead I think we end up with yet another outfielder (Beltran or Upton) to go with the 6 we already have. I prefer Upton and a change of scenery might be good for him.

Before the Wilpons said they wouldn't trade Reyes...there was a lot of talk of him going to the Giants. Love to see a Beltran for Cody Ross trade. :D

3SmokesaRound
07-18-2011, 09:19 AM
Before the Wilpons said they wouldn't trade Reyes...there was a lot of talk of him going to the Giants. Love to see a Beltran for Cody Ross trade. :D

You can have Ross. He "thinks" he's a home run hitter after what he did in the Series. He's NOT! Reyes would be a perfect fit for the Giants and the park. I'm not big on renting Beltran, but we need another bat since Huff blows this year.

jonumberone
07-18-2011, 09:24 AM
Carlos Beltran would suit my desires quite nicely.

I hear if Rays are still in it after this week they get Beltran,



I have also heard talks of Beltran for Upton...I'm good with that. :D

I'm not big on renting Beltran, but we need another bat since Huff blows this year.

Everybody wants Beltran, except Mac! :rolleyes: :D

Coach Deg
07-18-2011, 09:31 AM
The Rays would take Beltran so at the end of the year they get more draft picks. It seems Friedman would prefer draft picks to prospects unless he has someone he absolutely feels fits his mold. We had 10picks in top 85 this year and I think they would be content on that again.

jonumberone
07-18-2011, 09:36 AM
The Rays would take Beltran so at the end of the year they get more draft picks.

Teams can only receive draft pick compensation if they offer a player salary arbitration and he signs somewhere else.
Beltran's contract is written so the team cannot offer him arbitration at the end of the year, thus no compensation for the Mets or whoever he is traded to!

Wanger
07-18-2011, 09:41 AM
Everybody wants Beltran, except Mac! :rolleyes: :D

The Twins already have too many outfielders. No need to add yet another. I think we need a true #1 starter. Liriano shows flashes, but is FAR from consistent. Pavano is a workhorse, but doesn't have #1 stuff. After that, Baker is the best of the bunch, but is down with an arm issue. Dump Delmon Young and Kevin Slowey, and see what else it would take to get a #1, like King Felix. Getting a true front line starter is the only way they do anything in the playoffs, IMO.

x man
07-18-2011, 09:48 AM
The Yanks didnt want Beltran yrs ago when the Mets took him.
I dont see him wearing pins. I dont see him hitting AL east pitching.
Unless Soriano is close, another lefty is a priority.
You know what they say, location location location, oops, i
meant pitching and then location.

Coach Deg
07-18-2011, 11:24 AM
Teams can only receive draft pick compensation if they offer a player salary arbitration and he signs somewhere else.
Beltran's contract is written so the team cannot offer him arbitration at the end of the year, thus no compensation for the Mets or whoever he is traded to!

I'm not positive, but I believe you are wrong. The Rays made no offers to any of their free agents last year- Crawford, Pena, wheeler, Choate, qualis, Balfour, and Cormier. That's how they ended up with the 10 draft picks.

Coach Deg
07-18-2011, 11:26 AM
The Twins already have too many outfielders. No need to add yet another. I think we need a true #1 starter. Liriano shows flashes, but is FAR from consistent. Pavano is a workhorse, but doesn't have #1 stuff. After that, Baker is the best of the bunch, but is down with an arm issue. Dump Delmon Young and Kevin Slowey, and see what else it would take to get a #1, like King Felix. Getting a true front line starter is the only way they do anything in the playoffs, IMO.

Twins are shopping Cudyer for pitching, but he's not worth a true #1.

jonumberone
07-18-2011, 11:31 AM
Teams do not have to make a contract offer, just an offer to meet with and have an arbitrator decide the terms of a one year deal.
The Player can decline the offer.

Here is a link of the 2010 players who were offered arbitration.
http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4893:mlb-free-agent-salary-arbitration-stats&catid=26:editorials&Itemid=39

All 8 players were offered arbitration by the Rays.

3SmokesaRound
07-18-2011, 11:32 AM
Twins are shopping Cudyer for pitching, but he's not worth a true #1.

I keep reading they won't part with Cuddyer. However, I'd gladly give up Jonathan Sanchez for him. Take it Twins!

Coach Deg
07-18-2011, 11:57 AM
Teams do not have to make a contract offer, just an offer to meet with and have an arbitrator decide the terms of a one year deal.
The Player can decline the offer.

Here is a link of the 2010 players who were offered arbitration.
http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4893:mlb-free-agent-salary-arbitration-stats&catid=26:editorials&Itemid=39

All 8 players were offered arbitration by the Rays.

Interesting. I did not know this.

Wanger
07-18-2011, 01:13 PM
I keep reading they won't part with Cuddyer. However, I'd gladly give up Jonathan Sanchez for him. Take it Twins!

They won't likely trade him because he's the clubhouse leader of this team. The fact that he'll play just about any position any day is a great reason to have him on the roster. That, and the fact that he's a good hitter and having a pretty good year (lone All Star rep, leading the team in HR, though that's not saying much). Mauer won't ever be a clubhouse leader, Morneau has had health issues the last couple years, and no one else would do it.

coffeemonkey
07-18-2011, 01:52 PM
Who would you like to see your team acquire? Runs

Who would you like to see your team get rid of? Everyone batting below 0.250, oh wait, nevermind...

Will there be any blockbusters? Or surprises? of course not, this is the M's we are talking about, they thought trading Derrick Lowe and Jason Veritek to the Red Sox for Heathcliff Slocum was a good idea.

Now that the Rangers are starting to pull away, does King Felix get moved? Felix is ours and you can't have him!

For the Yankees, while the emphasis is always on pitching, I'd like to see them grab a stick! I hate the Yankees, it isn't logical
Carlos Beltran would suit my desires quite nicely. I'll hate him if he becomes a Yankee
Also I would like to see them grab any Lefty specialist they could get. You can have Figgins, he is a switch hitter, I am sure he can throw lefty too
Boone Logan is awful. His parents switched his last name with his first, what did you expect?

Does King Felix get moved? I wish!!!!!! Felix is ours and you can't have him! Felix is ours and you can't have him! Felix is ours and you can't have him!

VirtualSmitty
07-18-2011, 02:12 PM
I've been hearing the Nationals would like BJ Upton from the Rays and would be willing to part with Tyler Clippard. Also the pirates possibly interested in Josh Willingham from the A's.

jonumberone
07-18-2011, 06:05 PM
The way things are in Met land they would be happy to shed the $7 million still owed to him.

I guess even I can be wrong once and a while! :sh :D

NEW YORK -- There are no shortage of suitors for Carlos Beltran as the trade deadline approaches. And the New York Mets are demanding top-notch young talent in return for the outfielder because they are willing to cover his remaining salary, according to a major league source.

kelmac07
07-18-2011, 07:06 PM
Gotta get some pitching prospects..and that's gonna cost us...AGAIN!!

jonumberone
07-19-2011, 10:51 AM
Will there be any blockbusters? Or surprises?



Biggest surprise so far, the Pirates and Indians are buyers rather then sellers this year!

:eek: :eek:

3SmokesaRound
07-19-2011, 09:24 PM
The Giants got Keppinger today from Houston. Not the big bat I hoped for, but with the Giants injury problems and lack of depth up the middle it makes sense. Plus, it didn't cost us much in terms of prospects. Kepp has been swing a good bat since coming off the DL as well. Supposed to start at second tomorrow.

x man
07-20-2011, 09:16 AM
The Giants got Keppinger today from Houston. Not the big bat I hoped for, but with the Giants injury problems and lack of depth up the middle it makes sense. Plus, it didn't cost us much in terms of prospects. Kepp has been swing a good bat since coming off the DL as well. Supposed to start at second tomorrow.

Sounds like a good pic up.

Starscream
07-20-2011, 11:16 PM
The Giants got Keppinger today from Houston. Not the big bat I hoped for, but with the Giants injury problems and lack of depth up the middle it makes sense. Plus, it didn't cost us much in terms of prospects. Kepp has been swing a good bat since coming off the DL as well. Supposed to start at second tomorrow.

You should be happy with Kepp. He's not a huge difference maker, but he's a great utility player/pinch hitter who's consistent.:tu

jonumberone
07-21-2011, 04:56 AM
The Tigers traded for Wilson Betemit.
I wasn't all that impressed when he was a Yankee, but he should be an upgrade over the struggling Brandon Inge, who was designated for assignment.

Red Sox are in on Beltran but think Mets price too high, Yanks aren't in, Yet ;)
Phils in as well, Mets asking for Domonic Brown
Pirates, Braves, Giants also in mix.

kelmac07
07-21-2011, 05:07 AM
Betemit was a stud prospect that didn't pan out. But he was having a decent year in KC. Sad to see Inge designated for assignment...he's a good guy.

3SmokesaRound
07-21-2011, 09:50 AM
The Tigers traded for Wilson Betemit.
I wasn't all that impressed when he was a Yankee, but he should be an upgrade over the struggling Brandon Inge, who was designated for assignment.

Red Sox are in on Beltran but think Mets price too high, Yanks aren't in, Yet ;)
Phils in as well, Mets asking for Domonic Brown
Pirates, Braves, Giants also in mix.

And now the Brewers are in the mix too. I don't think the Giants will get him, since they don't want to give up top prospects which is what the Mets want.

Betemit was a stud prospect that didn't pan out. But he was having a decent year in KC. Sad to see Inge designated for assignment...he's a good guy.

It sure is! He was a team leader just a year or two ago (can't remember and too lazy to look up)

The Poet
07-21-2011, 10:01 AM
Gotta get some pitching prospects..and that's gonna cost us...AGAIN!!

I agree, Mac. The Mets need those pitchers to be named later when they again trade young hurlers for old bats. :D

jonumberone
07-21-2011, 10:10 AM
Reports are that the Mets won't trade Reyes.
Does anyone make them an offer they can't refuse?

3SmokesaRound
07-21-2011, 10:12 AM
I hope the Giants do :)

The Poet
07-21-2011, 10:30 AM
Reports are that the Mets won't trade Reyes.
Does anyone make them an offer they can't refuse?

I hope the Giants do :)


I would be foolish to deny that Reyes has earned a huge contract, and could certainly help any team win. Yet his repeated health issues would preclude me submitting "an offer they can't refuse". That is particularly true where the Wilpons are concerned, as they have too often swapped younger talent for older washouts, and may be reluctant to face the indignant Met fans were they to do the same again.

jonumberone
07-22-2011, 11:39 AM
Todays rumors.

Hunter Pence is on the Market, but many teams think the price is way too high.
The Phils are one team that's in despite the high price tag.

The Astros are shopping Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers harder than Pence.
AL teams don't think that Wandy can handle the switch to the AL, and Myers isn't having a great year

Hiroki Kuroda hasn't yet told the Dodgers whether he'd waive his no-trade clause in some cases, though he may take trades on a case-by-case basis. AL sources indicate the Yankees, Red Sox, Tigers, Indians and Rangers are among interested teams.

The Yanks have interest in the O's Guthrie, but don't think Peter Angelos will trade with them.

Pad's owner says Mike Adams is staying in SD, but GM says no player is untouchable.

The Yankees seek a righthanded bat (someone like the Rockies' Ty Wigginton) and a lefthanded reliever in a addition to a starting pitcher. The Marlins' Randy Choate, an ex-Yankee, might be the best lefty reliever available.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/07/22/around.the.majors/index.html#ixzz1SrC0tA7N

BigAsh
07-22-2011, 11:54 AM
Pence would be a nice fit for the Phils...helloooo, right-handed bat....but at what price?

kelmac07
07-22-2011, 01:42 PM
Pence would be a nice fit for the Phils...helloooo, right-handed bat....but at what price?

Everyone wants Dominic Brown.

jonumberone
07-24-2011, 02:06 PM
Latest updates:

Teams are reportedly looking at the Cubs Kosuke Fukudome.
4 teams believed involved including the Indians.

Kerry Wood apparently told the Cubs, he's staying put, and wants to re sign there next year.

The Chi Sox are reportedly seeking a deal with the Cards for Colby Rasmus.
The Sox would send a pitcher, likely Edwin Jackson or Matt Thornton and a prospect to the Cards.

The Phils have told the Mets no in a trade involving Domonic Brown for Beltran, Also Told them no for Righty pitcher Cossart.
The Mets are talking to the Rangers and Red Sox about Beltran, but many still see NL teams Phils, Braves, Giants as more likely.

Bruins Fan
07-24-2011, 03:21 PM
The Red Sox don't need any help except to get two of their starting pitchers back:D

Killian
07-25-2011, 03:33 PM
Latest updates:


The Chi Sox are reportedly seeking a deal with the Cards for Colby Rasmus.
The Sox would send a pitcher, likely Edwin Jackson or Matt Thornton and a prospect to the Cards.

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As a Cards fan, I have to say it's time to cut the strings with Colby. He has been babied long enough and the onfield results just aren't there. Sometimes he looks so lost in the field and he is scared to death on the move towards the wall or someone else. He would rather take a bad angle and let it drop. The biggest problem though is how he still gets "outside" batting help instead of using the coaching staff. That right there tells you everything you need to know about Colby.

jonumberone
07-26-2011, 06:31 AM
A team-by-team look at the trade market

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_heyman/07/25/trade.week.team.by.team/index.html

The Phils are showing some interest in Upton but most calls are from Nats, Braves, Pirates, Reds, Cards.

The Tigers are really high on Kuroda, but word is he won't waive no trade clause.

Teams that sent scouts to watch Ubaldo Jimenez, bos, tex, det, tor, nyy, reds.
reds make most sense.

Dbacks involved in talks with Cubs for Carlos Pena.

kelmac07
07-26-2011, 06:38 AM
Too bad we aren't in contention...because Carlos Pena would be a great fit at 1B in a Mets uni.

3SmokesaRound
07-27-2011, 05:54 PM
Well... I really hope the Beltran trade pays dividends. Not a big fan of giving up good pitching talent for a rental. Maybe they sign Beltran to a stupid contract like Rowand or Zito.

jonumberone
07-27-2011, 06:03 PM
Well... I really hope the Beltran trade pays dividends. Not a big fan of giving up good pitching talent for a rental. Maybe they sign Beltran to a stupid contract like Rowand or Zito.

I read yesterday that the Giants are the only Team in MLB without a player with 10 HR, The same rings true if you included all the AAA teams.

Beltran will help! :tu

One of the true Clutch players in the game!!!

3SmokesaRound
07-27-2011, 06:16 PM
I read yesterday that the Giants are the only Team in MLB without a player with 10 HR, The same rings true if you included all the AAA teams.

Beltran will help! :tu

One of the true Clutch players in the game!!!

I hope so, but Beltran only has 15 IIRC, and it's harder to hit 'am in AT&T which is why the Giants don't have many. (Not that they'd be cranking them out in another stadium with that line-up) :)

Starscream
07-27-2011, 07:23 PM
Well... I really hope the Beltran trade pays dividends. Not a big fan of giving up good pitching talent for a rental. Maybe they sign Beltran to a stupid contract like Rowand or Zito.

Beltran went a lot cheaper than what I thought he would go for.

kelmac07
07-27-2011, 07:24 PM
Wish the Giants had thrown Cody Ross in on the deal. :D

EricF
07-27-2011, 07:31 PM
Wish the Giants had thrown Cody Ross in on the deal. :D

That would have been a plus for sure!!!!!

Coach Deg
07-27-2011, 09:13 PM
Mac, I will tell you Pena would give you such fits. He'll bat .220 hit 35hr and make no errors. And he has to be one of the nicest men in baseball. He is complete class even when getting booed for striking out over 200 times a year. He is Mark Reynolds A's a first baseman.

Coach Deg
07-27-2011, 09:14 PM
Dom Rays are entertaining offers for Shields, but told the Yankees he is not available.

jonumberone
07-28-2011, 06:41 AM
Well finally some action!

Beltran to Giants.

Chi Sox Traded Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen to the Bluejays.
The Jays then sent Jackson and others to the Cards for Colby Rasmus.
Here are all of the players in the 3 team deal.
Chi Sox get, Reliever Jason Frasor and prospect Zach Stewart from the Jays, and Reliever Trevor Miller from the cards, and 9 mil in salary relief.
Jays get Relievers Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters, and OF Colby Rasmus from the Cards, and utility man Mark Teahan from the Sox.
Cards get Edwin Jackson From Chi, and Relievers Marc Rzepczynski, Octavio Dotel, as well as outfielder Cory Paterson from the Jays.

kelmac07
07-28-2011, 07:57 AM
Mac, I will tell you Pena would give you such fits. He'll bat .220 hit 35hr and make no errors. And he has to be one of the nicest men in baseball. He is complete class even when getting booed for striking out over 200 times a year. He is Mark Reynolds A's a first baseman.

He is a great guy...met him when we was in the Tigers system (AAA Toledo) and he was so excited that my son and I knew who he was. He stopped, talked, signed balls, took pictures...great guy indeed!! :tu :tu

I would love to have him at 1B.

jonumberone
07-28-2011, 09:40 AM
Reports are the Indians have acquired Fukodome from the Cubbies.

Also The Brew Crew sent C Wil Nieves to the Braves for cash.

Red Sox fear Bucholtz back injury is structural not muscular as originally thought, does this push them harder for Jimenez.?
Yanks appear to be the leader for Jimenez. Red Sox, Reds still in. Texas out.

Phils now looking at Upton since a Monster deal for Pence was rejected.

Coach Deg
07-28-2011, 01:43 PM
Upton not in line up for third straight day.

BigAsh
07-29-2011, 07:54 PM
Breaking news...Phillies land Hunter Pence....4 minor leaguers....sweet!!

kelmac07
07-29-2011, 08:07 PM
Breaking news...Phillies land Hunter Pence....4 minor leaguers....sweet!!

This is BS!! :bs

Pence-sylvania!!! :r :r

BigAsh
07-29-2011, 08:13 PM
This is BS!! :bs

Pence-sylvania!!! :r :r

:r ....makes em good for next year too!!

jonumberone
07-30-2011, 09:09 AM
Looks like the Tigers have acquired Starting pitcher Doug Fister from the M's.
No news yet on the details.

Coach Deg
07-30-2011, 07:56 PM
With LaRussa and Duncan in StLouis Edwin Jackson might win a Cy Young. He is a very good pitcher that shows signs of inconsistency, but a 140 pitch no-hitter. And just like I said about Pena. He is a soft spoken great guy. The type that appreciates fans. Always signs autographs and shakes hands. I wish him luck.

jonumberone
07-30-2011, 08:08 PM
Looks like ubaldo Jimenez is on his way to Cleveland.

Kuroda won't waive his no trade.
So now I have no idea where the yanks are going get a pitcher.
Perhaps the rays budge on shields? :sh

Coach Deg
07-30-2011, 08:18 PM
I like the Yanks waaaaayyyyyy better then the Sox, but I say no!

Coach Deg
07-30-2011, 08:40 PM
Rich Harden goes to stinking Red Sox!

yachties23
07-30-2011, 08:50 PM
I read yesterday that the Giants are the only Team in MLB without a player with 10 HR, The same rings true if you included all the AAA teams.

Beltran will help! :tu

One of the true Clutch players in the game!!!

I may be one of the few Met fans who actually liked Beltran, I'm not sure you can call him clutch. Sure he had a great posteason, but it was with the Astros, my postseason memory of Beltran was him looking at a fat hook from Adam Wainright, on a pitch which should have sealed our trip to the world series.

kelmac07
07-30-2011, 09:19 PM
Nice to see the Indians as buyers and not sellers. :tu :tu