Undercrown by Drew Estates

[Blak Smyth]

Has anybody heard anything about the new Undercrown by Drew Estates?
Drew Estates will deput at the IPCPR tradeshow in July.

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They say it will be available in the following sizes:
Corona Double 178mm x 54
Belicoso 152mm x 52
Gran Toro 152mm x 52
Gordito 152mm x 60
Robusto 127mm x 54

[T.G]

It is basically what Saka says - a slightly lighter body, creamier, Liga Privada.

Quite nice really.

[BigAsh]

I'll give it a shot when I see it....his "traditional" i.e. non-flavored sticks are usually quite nice....

[maninblack]

Never heard of it. Very intrigued.

[T.G]

From Saka:

- Undercrown to be debuted at the IPCPR - initial delivery to retailer in Sept 2011.

- Undercrown is a blend that was developed by the Liga rollers for their own smoking pleasure because we had to ask them to cut back on smoking the LPs they were making - they were crushing us. The name represents this - if LP was made exclusively for the king/boss initially, this cigar was made initially for themselves, the princes, ie. Undercrown.

- Imo, it is just a touch stronger than Medium bodied with a great natural tobacco sweetness and earthy flavor. Very creamy core and sexy smooth - like all LP's** it is very balanced - this cigar probably won't satisfy some of the pepper junkies.

[Disclaimer: this of course is my personal opinion of the smoke - you will have to decide for yourself... some folks will say it is too strong, others will say it is mild, one guy will say it tastes like bing cherries and pencil lead, and on and on and on - lol]

- Made with many of the same tobaccos as other LPs, but utilizes different primings, crops from different sections of the same fields, different ages etc... or change-ups - for example the binder is our exclusive T52 stalk cut habano.

- Prices are NOT set on the brand yet, because we price all of our cigars based one what they cost to produce and it takes us a few months of true production to know for sure what the indexes and run rates will be - I am going to Nica next week to do a final review - we expect the prices to range between $7 - $9...

BUT I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BE COMPLETELY WRONG ABOUT THIS!!!

- LP-grade pairs are rolling these.

- Initial launch will be in the same 4 sizes as LP + the 6 x 60 parejo Gordito. Complain to JD about it, he wanted it, he is on a 60RG rampage... <snicker> Look when I first wanted to do Dirty Rat JD was not really on board because he always preferred larger cigars, but he let us run with it and fell in love with it. I in turn, am not a 60rg guy, but I gotta admit I am impressed with the MUWAT he did over at JDN. I do not think you have to choose between doing all big or all small.

- If the brand proves to be popular with smokers of course we will add sizes... I already have been smoking a 5 5/8 x 46 version. But launching with the most popular sizes is what makes sense... tell you what I will make up some more of the Corona Gorda UC to share cause you ain't gettiing mine. Lets plan a BOTL herf somewhere this Fall an I will show up with these to share...

- It will not be limited to LP accounts only - this is a more sustainable blend so in the long run is will have better availability - hoorah!

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BR,

Steve Saka
Prez, Drew Estate

[Added to my original post: ** I meant stock LPs, I don't consider the Unico Dirty Rat to be "very balanced", it is exceptional imo, but not very balanced... same is true of the MF-13 and the Feral Flying Pig blends - they are too strong imo to be labelled as "very balanced." Of course, this is again, as always IMO...]

[Blak Smyth]

Thanks for the info T.G!

[T.G]

Welcome. If you like the Liga Privada line, you'll probably like this cigar. It's like a creamy, slightly lighter bodied T52.

[AFSFK]

i want this cigar now. Time for patience to kick in

[hscmit]

sounds good

thanks for the info adam

[neoflex]

I believe a couple were sent to bloggers for review but it turned out they were actually sent the wrong stick. I love whats been coming out of the DE factory (Non-Flavored of course) with the T-52 being one of my favorites wight now. I'm looking forward to the MF13 too.

[Sherlockholms]

Thanks for the heads up, it sounds tasty!

[T.G]

I believe a couple were sent to bloggers for review but it turned out they were actually sent the wrong stick. I love whats been coming out of the DE factory (Non-Flavored of course) with the T-52 being one of my favorites wight now. I'm looking forward to the MF13 too.

There have been some communications mixups, but if it was an Undercrown F they smoked, it was in fact, the final, release blend.

[N2 GOLD]

Looks & sounds real nice... -(P

[BTcigars]

Thanks for the info Adam. I wonder what they are going to do with the JD4, kind of went off the radar.

[Remo]

Looks awesome!!! :dr

[neoflex]

I'm real excited to see some of the stuff to come out of the DE factory this year.

[Bill86]

ARG I want to try one of these but Robusto 54 RG REALLY? Come on......Gordito 60 RG....:confused:

I guess I'll have to go Belicoso with this one, and how much I hate not punching cigars :bh

[emopunker2004]

ARG I want to try one of these but Robusto 54 RG REALLY? Come on......Gordito 60 RG....:confused:

I guess I'll have to go Belicoso with this one, and how much I hate not punching cigars :bh

y not Gran Toro?

[Bill86]

y not Gran Toro?

Eh 52 RG is a bit much, I'll cut the Belicoso around 46-48 RG

[big a]

I'm in that stick sounds great. I'm loving the LP line right now.

[thebayratt]

- Undercrown is a blend that was developed by the Liga rollers for their own smoking pleasure because we had to ask them to cut back on smoking the LPs they were making - they were crushing us

So thisbasically means a lower costed LP?? Sounds like a winner to me, as long as they make them more available.

[lilwing88]

It seems like DE is moving away from more fuller bodied spicier smokes. I think cuz the market is pretty saturated right now. When I met Jonathan at a recent event, he was really quizzing me on what other fuller bodied sticks I smoke besides his..... I think he's trying to get people to move to more med bodied smooth smokes. Instead of coming out with the next strongest, spiciest smoke, he and Saka want to produce quality enjoyable smooth smokes.

Just my :2....

I still have yet to try the Uzi I picked up at the last event, but I hear it's definitely medium bodied. And I can't wait to try the Undercrown.

[T.G]

So thisbasically means a lower costed LP?? Sounds like a winner to me, as long as they make them more available.

From my conversations with Jon along with what Saka has said, that's the distinct impression I got; that due to the greater availability of the tobacco used in this cigar, they will have both a lower price point and greater availability to the consumer and as such, will not be limited to Liga accounts.