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hammondc
05-19-2011, 09:00 AM
This idea was discussed in a previous thread, but I do not think it ever got started....so I am starting it.

As much as I would love to drink only Silver Creek, Cakebread or Nickel & Nickel, I love my under $30 wines. Put your suggestions here.

hammondc
05-19-2011, 09:01 AM
Cupcake Cabernet. Pretty decent stuff for around $9
Bogle Pinot - Always good for $10-$12
337 Cab - A staple in my house for $12
Forefront - Fantastic cab for ~$22

BigCat
05-19-2011, 01:14 PM
Menage a trois - $8 at Costco
Dancing Bull Cab and Zin - between 7-10 at Meijer
Dynamite Zin - $9 most places I've seen it
Bogle Cab - $10
7 deadly zins - $10 at Costco

I think these are all really good bangs for the buck.

Guitarman-S.T-
05-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Durigutti * spelling* makes a Wonderul 07-08 Malbec for 16$, really blew me away

Subvet642
05-19-2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.rantsncrap.com/blog%20pics/md2020.jpg

:D ;s

Aero95
05-19-2011, 01:36 PM
Carmel Road Chardonnay $18ish

xlc12rf
05-19-2011, 01:43 PM
For about $10 I like the Blackstone Merlot

TheRiddick
05-19-2011, 02:19 PM
So, how many in the thread smoke bundled (under $20 per 20) cigars as their mainstays?

Skywalker
05-19-2011, 02:24 PM
So, how many in the thread smoke bundled (under $20 per 20) cigars as their mainstays?

:tuhttp://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=4335:tu
This guy!!!:dance:

Volusianator
05-19-2011, 02:43 PM
So, how many in the thread smoke bundled (under $20 per 20) cigars as their mainstays?

Not sure what your point is or how it would relate to this thread?

xlc12rf
05-19-2011, 03:03 PM
Not sure what your point is or how it would relate to this thread?

He is saying why bother drinking crap wine.

Cause the line has to be drawn somewhere. I drink expensive beer, and smoke expensive cigars. I don't consider myself a wino, so why should I bother with 'good' wine?

Christiel49
05-19-2011, 03:26 PM
Wow!! I totally see where you are going.......however I smoke great cigars 2x a week, wine is a little different. One cigar last about an hour and a bottle of wine only has Three glasses which is easly done in one sitting/daily.

To each his own

Chateau St Michelle: Reisling $15

Volusianator
05-19-2011, 03:32 PM
He is saying why bother drinking crap wine.

Cause the line has to be drawn somewhere. I drink expensive beer, and smoke expensive cigars. I don't consider myself a wino, so why should I bother with 'good' wine?

Drink what you like, smoke what you like, ride what you like. It's all preference, Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy. Just because someone like "premium" cigars doesn't mean they have to drink expensive wines.

hammondc
05-19-2011, 03:58 PM
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.


*here, I did it for you. (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45754)

Volusianator
05-19-2011, 04:06 PM
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.


*here, I did it for you. (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45754)Whoa, that attitude will get you a lot of great replies.

hammondc
05-19-2011, 04:11 PM
Whoa, that attitude will get you a lot of great replies.

I am sure it will.

markem
05-19-2011, 04:16 PM
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.

The Poet
05-19-2011, 04:17 PM
Chill, Chip. If you ignore the bears instead of poking them, maybe they will go elsewhere. And if not, so what?

I work in a wineshop, and we have some expensive stuff on the shelves . . . where most of it has been for a loooong time, and where it may likely stay for an even longer time. Even if you discount the fact that the vast majority of people cannot afford $100-$500 for a single bottle of wine, most of those who may have the financial resources do not see the point of it. Why should they spend that much when they may not be able to distinguish the difference anyway?

It is relatively easy to find a good bottle of wine in excess of the $30 price point Chip proposed. But it is just as easy to find good ones under that, and when you do it is more fun, more gratifying, and more fiscally responsible. Me, I'm much more pleased when I find a drinkable bottle for $10 than I would be were it twice . . . or 10 times . . . that price.

This post is full of my :2 regarding the overall issue, and totally lacking in any specific suggestions. But then, who wants to rely on the taste of a guy who buys bundled cigars? :D

Skywalker
05-19-2011, 04:29 PM
;s

Here is my contribution:

http://www.vino100.com/

100 great wines for $25.00 or less!

I have one of these stores in my town. I have found it a great place to shop around and not spend a ton of money.
They also have tastings so I can try the wine so I know what to spend my money on.

Check out their site, even if you don't have a store near you.

hammondc
05-19-2011, 04:32 PM
Good link. There are 2 in my work territory. I will be near one in two weeks. I will have to check it out.

Volusianator
05-19-2011, 04:54 PM
Fantastic post! Similar to what I said earlier, drink what you like, like what you drink, smoke, drive, ride, eat...whatever the case may be.

Chill, Chip. If you ignore the bears instead of poking them, maybe they will go elsewhere. And if not, so what?

I work in a wineshop, and we have some expensive stuff on the shelves . . . where most of it has been for a loooong time, and where it may likely stay for an even longer time. Even if you discount the fact that the vast majority of people cannot afford $100-$500 for a single bottle of wine, most of those who may have the financial resources do not see the point of it. Why should they spend that much when they may not be able to distinguish the difference anyway?

It is relatively easy to find a good bottle of wine in excess of the $30 price point Chip proposed. But it is just as easy to find good ones under that, and when you do it is more fun, more gratifying, and more fiscally responsible. Me, I'm much more pleased when I find a drinkable bottle for $10 than I would be were it twice . . . or 10 times . . . that price.

This post is full of my :2 regarding the overall issue, and totally lacking in any specific suggestions. But then, who wants to rely on the taste of a guy who buys bundled cigars? :D

MajorCaptSilly
05-19-2011, 05:00 PM
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.

Sticky material right there.

MCS

mmblz
05-19-2011, 06:46 PM
Sticky material right there.

MCS

Cotton candy or pine pitch?




Barefoot Chardonnay is pretty good for the price even if there are others I would prefer to be drinking :D
Menage a Trois someone mentioned - like the Rose
A to Z Pinot Noir

$30 is a high enough bar to find plenty of good wines...

Volusianator
05-19-2011, 06:54 PM
I know you said wine and not port, but if I can add a port to the mix, I really enjoy Grahams 6 Grapes, for under $20 a bottle, it's a great ruby.

icehog3
05-19-2011, 07:04 PM
I know you said wine and not port, but if I can add a port to the mix, I really enjoy Grahams 6 Grapes, for under $20 a bottle, it's a great ruby.

:tu :dr

TheRiddick
05-19-2011, 09:04 PM
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.

Please remind me, did I miss your illuminating wine related posts elsewhere?

As opposed to a bunch of mine, discussing and recommending wines AT ALL PRICE POINTS, in a number of threads. So, as trolling goes, look in the mirror...
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I was simply asking and commenting. Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines. For someone above equating pleasure quotient of wine versus cigar all I can say is that even the largest cigar is no more than what, 3+ hours of pleasure, yet a bottle of wine can deliver pleasure over 2-3 days if need be. Some, like sherries, can stay open for years and deliver great pleasure for that long. Where does price come into this equation?

As much as I tell people to drink (and smoke) what they like I, basically, would rather drink good beer than bad wine, and plain water rather bad beer. Many of the wines mentioned in these "cheap wine" threads are barely wine, many are simply chemical concoctions. Many use oak by-products and food/color additives to cover bad fruit. Thus, my usual questions as to why one would demand pure tobacco and yet subject his internals to chemical crap. I say stick to beer instead (or whatever your other beverage of choice may be).

Those of you above who immediately lumped me into the "only high price products" category obviously know nothing about me. I always look for value, and yes, sometimes that value can actually be a higher priced product. And many a time price is the true measuring stick, low price means low quality. Yeah, I know, a novel concept to most of you in the thread (sorry for sarcasm).

So, how many drive a Yugo? Or cheapest,20 year old Hiunday/Nissan? Why not?

All I see is threads upon threads on Tats/DPG/Viaje/etc/etc/etc, almost never threads on cheapest bundles from Famous/CI/second tier/third tier cigars that are in same league, quality wise, as many of the wines discussed.

But hey, its your liver, (ab)use it any way you want.



For the record, depending on the batch and varietal I would take a 2 Buck Chuck over many of the wines mentioned.

Volusianator
05-19-2011, 09:32 PM
Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines.

So? Why let that bother you?

markem
05-19-2011, 10:22 PM
I was simply asking and commenting. Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines.

Start one. You do know how to do that, right?

icehog3
05-19-2011, 10:54 PM
We have threads on cheap bundle smokes, value cigars, etc.....A member can't start a value wine thread without getting your dander up?

Drink what you like (everyone), like what you drink (everyone), and don't take yourself too seriously. ;)

replicant_argent
05-19-2011, 11:05 PM
I suggest 3 buck chuck ;)

icehog3
05-19-2011, 11:12 PM
I suggest 3 buck chuck ;)

I've had it, and thought it was worth at least four-fitty. ;)

pektel
05-20-2011, 12:00 AM
Back on topic, shall we?

For everyday value wines, I like fetzer and bogle. Fetzer runs under $7 and bogle runs under $10 at the local walmart liquor store here. I really like frei brothers Cabernet as well. About $20, and delicious as far as my palate is concerned.

For super cheap, I've been able to rather enjoy yellow tail merlot, though it's one of those chemical concoctions riddick was referring to.
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hammondc
05-20-2011, 07:35 AM
I agree on Bogle. Good, solid stuff for ~$10. The Pinot and Cab are very good.

Had some Castle Rock Pinot last night. Very good stuff. Paired up with an Illusione Nostros. It was a good night.

pnoon
05-20-2011, 07:36 AM
Back on topic, shall we?


You can bet on it.

Subvet642
05-20-2011, 07:39 AM
As for myself, I don't know a lot about wines, but I know what I like. I don't have a refined palette, but, for a bargain bottle I like the Gallo Hearty Burgundy.

mosesbotbol
05-20-2011, 07:49 AM
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.

Aristotle said “General questions can only have general answers”. This thread is too general for me to suggest bottles under $20 with narrowing the scope some. Do you like new world or old world wines? Single varietal or blends? Red, white, sparkling, fortified, or rose? Do you want big names easy to find or more obscure gems in that price range.

The majority of wines I drink and taste are in that price range, but without knowing what kind of wines you like, it's hard to make suggestions. $20 can buy a heck of wine.

OnlyDryReds
05-20-2011, 08:56 AM
Sat out on the patio last night with wife and my parents and we had a nice mondavi Sauvignon Blanc that wife had picked up on sale for 8.99... Nice, fruity, light, worked well on a warm sping night.

pnoon
05-20-2011, 09:44 AM
Sat out on the patio last night with wife and my parents and we had a nice mondavi Sauvignon Blanc that wife had picked up on sale for 8.99... Nice, fruity, light, worked well on a warm sping night.
Looks like you may have to consider changing your user name. ;)
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NCRadioMan
05-20-2011, 09:56 AM
Aristotle said “General questions can only have general answers”. This thread is too general for me to suggest bottles under $20 with narrowing the scope some. Do you like new world or old world wines? Single varietal or blends? Red, white, sparkling, fortified, or rose? Do you want big names easy to find or more obscure gems in that price range.

The majority of wines I drink and taste are in that price range, but without knowing what kind of wines you like, it's hard to make suggestions. $20 can buy a heck of wine.

This thread isn't about what he likes, it's what you like so post away Moses, as I am interested to see the list.

xlc12rf
05-20-2011, 10:21 AM
This thread isn't about what he likes, it's what you like so post away Moses, as I am interested to see the list.

x2

I love finding cheap, drinkable wine.

OLS
05-20-2011, 10:25 AM
Haha, that's right. "There are too many threads where people come in and try to re-ask the questions the
OP asked, to frame them in their own terms." haha. Or something like that.
Like was said, only
the OP knows what he asked and why he asked it. If the thread has no merit, it will die a quick death to the
high-numbered pages. I had this happen to me the other day, someone was bound and determined to tell me
what I meant by what I asked. WTF?

Volusianator
05-20-2011, 11:06 AM
Looks like you may have to consider changing your user name. ;)
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LOL

hammondc
05-20-2011, 09:53 PM
337 Cabernet- Pretty good stuff. A little astringent, but still worth the ~$11.

BigCat
05-21-2011, 11:22 AM
337 Cabernet- Pretty good stuff. A little astringent, but still worth the ~$11.

+1. I like this stuff.

markem
05-21-2011, 11:36 AM
Okay, I'll admit to a very strange way of picking cheap wines that seems to work for us. For some reason, picking the bottle with the really cool animal seems to work. On rare occasions, it is a spectacular failure, but most of the time, we like the wine we pick with that method.

CigarNut
05-21-2011, 12:46 PM
Okay, I'll admit to a very strange way of picking cheap wines that seems to work for us. For some reason, picking the bottle with the really cool animal seems to work. On rare occasions, it is a spectacular failure, but most of the time, we like the wine we pick with that method.That one bottle of "white" wine you picked up with the picture of a dog peeing, was not very good. A little to warm for me...

smokepuff
05-21-2011, 07:54 PM
Woodbridge Lightly oaked Chardonnay white @ $7 @ Shop-N-Save Sale Price only :D
Mount Pleasant Norton (Missouri winery) @ $20

I usually stock up on anything from Missouri Winery at local mart discounted price
And that's how I drink wine on a budget

OnlyDryReds
05-26-2011, 12:37 PM
Looks like you may have to consider changing your user name. ;)
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Hmmmmmmm Yes I see that!

Well Ill think of something while drinking a Mondavi Woodbridge Chard this evening. :tu

vankleekkw
05-28-2011, 12:15 PM
A couple of cheaper wines that I've been drinking
Bonterra - An organic wine for ~ $12
BV
Penfolds
Chateau st. John

pektel
06-11-2011, 04:29 AM
Had a bottle of 2007 castle rock napa valley Cabernet sauvignon tonight, and am pleasantly surprised. A little heavy on the tart fruit and less dry and oaky like some others, but still very enjoyable. 12.49 at my local liquor store. May go pick up a case tomorrow to put away and see what happens after some of that fruit dies down.
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jjmitchem
06-11-2011, 05:05 AM
A few years back my wife and I became really good friends with the owner of our local wine store - she everything from $3 to $500 bottles as well as an incredible selection of great beers

as she got to know our taste (we had been trying the better stuff every once in a while) she suggested a bottle of Crane Lake Cab - at $4 a bottle that became our daily driver so to speak and it is really good

mosesbotbol
06-11-2011, 07:42 AM
For under $20 and an "honest wine", I would look for wines from:

Alentejano, Dao, Douro - Portugal
Chinnon - France
Rioja - Spain

I most cases, you should be able to find "Reserva" wines from each appellation.

hammondc
06-16-2011, 07:43 PM
For under $20 and an "honest wine", I would look for wines from:

Alentejano, Dao, Douro - Portugal
Chinnon - France
Rioja - Spain

I most cases, you should be able to find "Reserva" wines from each appellation.

Thanks for the suggestion. I need to do some stocking up. I will look for these.

pektel
06-16-2011, 09:11 PM
FYI,I may be wrong, but I believe "reserva" has no legal bearing regarding US wines. I know mosesbotl listed foreign wines, just saying in regards to united states wines. Also not saying that US wineries abuse the label.
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hammondc
06-17-2011, 06:47 PM
Picked up a Rioja and Douro today.

Proximo by Marques de Riscal Riojo
Charamba Douro

mosesbotbol
06-17-2011, 09:16 PM
Picked up a Rioja and Douro today.

Proximo by Marques de Riscal Riojo
Charamba Douro

The Charamba is a good deal for its price. I have had it back to 2000 and is still holding up well. What year did you get? I don't know the Rioja. Please update us with your results!

timj219
06-17-2011, 09:53 PM
I don't know about availability out of state but NY wines from the finger lakes are generally inexpensive and some are outstanding. Dr Konstantin Frank, Anthony Road, and Sheldrake Point vineyards are three that come to mind. Most of their bottles come in under $30 with a fair number under $20

hammondc
06-18-2011, 09:08 AM
The Charamba was a 2007. I agree. Had it last night and I was shocked at how good it was for $8. Seems very similar to a Pinot Noir to me. It is one I definitely will keep on hand.

ronzorelli
06-18-2011, 09:37 AM
My wife and I are pretty fond of a local wine called Kick Butt Cab. It's from Texas Hills Vineyard (http://www.texashillsvineyard.com) and runs about $18.

Llano Estacado Winery, another local winery, has a really good "cheap" Pino Grigio (http://www.llanowine.com/detail.aspx?ID=180) for about $9.

Tyler
06-18-2011, 10:50 AM
Great suggestions fellas. I have tried quite a few of the ones mentioned and have found them great as well.

A few more to add (I am on my phone so I hope these have not been mentioned already):

Menage a Trois California Red
Clos Du Bois Chardonnay 2009
Alamos Malbec

hammondc
06-18-2011, 11:32 AM
Had a bottle of 2007 castle rock napa valley Cabernet sauvignon tonight, and am pleasantly surprised. A little heavy on the tart fruit and less dry and oaky like some others, but still very enjoyable.
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Yep....this is usually a staple in my rack. The Willamette Valley Pinot is very good too. I have heard the Russian River Valley wines are nice, but I have not seen them in a long while.

mosesbotbol
06-18-2011, 02:04 PM
The Charamba was a 2007. I agree. Had it last night and I was shocked at how good it was for $8. Seems very similar to a Pinot Noir to me. It is one I definitely will keep on hand.

2007 is an excellent vintage for Douro wine and port. I am glad to read my suggestion panned out for you! Portugal is a hotbed of good dry wine deals.

OnlyDryReds
01-10-2012, 09:17 AM
Wife an I opened up a bottle of Jefferson Vineyard 2001 Petit Verdo that I have had hidden away for a few years Sunday evening...think i paid around 25 +/- for it at the time, before I laid it down.... Decant it, then we used one of my x-mas gifts, a Vinturi, and it was quite good. I really like Petit Verdo's as a single blend..i have a 2002 from same place Ill be looking forward to next year, if I can wait that long. :)

Pilon
01-10-2012, 09:34 AM
Il Bastardo Sangiovese, $7 in my neck of the woods

hammondc
05-26-2012, 07:52 PM
Pretty good stuff...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41hHN5zP93L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Partially Deaf
05-26-2012, 07:53 PM
I haven't see if it has been mentioned yet, but I like Layer Cake Shiraz; it can be found for around $15 a bottle.

pektel
05-27-2012, 11:55 AM
Pretty good stuff...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41hHN5zP93L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

:tu
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ChicagoWhiteSox
05-28-2012, 12:06 AM
Had a very good bottle of "budget" wine at my brothers house tonight... 2009 Kendall Jackson GR Chardonnay. Retails $18. Not over oaked all.. Good buttery fruit, winner in my book.

mosesbotbol
05-28-2012, 08:42 AM
Symingtons Altano red is one I'd put against any $10 bottle of wine from where ever in the world. This is quality stuff that I haven't seen anything that can compete for a daily drinker.

Been some good posts on this thread, but few I would really consider a budget wine at $15+ (maybe I am too poor or cheap for this thread?)

ChicagoWhiteSox
05-28-2012, 10:44 AM
Moses, I agree, for me budget is around 8-12 for a bottle (which great wine can be had for), however if anyone offers to share a bottle with me, they all are budget for me:D

Stephen
05-28-2012, 11:51 AM
We're by no means wine connoisseurs, but the lil lady and I love us some Justin Vineyards. Normally can be found for around twenty five bucks, our local wine shop recently had it on sale for eighteen. Came home with a case of 2009 Cabernet Sauvignon. :tu

Just for everyday slurping, our weapon of choice is Apothic Red, which can usually be found between ten and fifteen bucks.

RWhisenand
05-30-2012, 10:47 PM
IMO the best red for the price is Meridian Cab. When it is on sale at our local Raley's it goes for $5.99 a bottle, wonderful value. Otherwise, we like Bogle, Ravenswood Zin, Rosso from FF Capolla, and Zins from Kenwood. Many more too!

SeanGAR
09-26-2012, 08:56 PM
Beaune Vignes Franches, Premier Cru 2009, Mazilly Pere et Fils $18
Haven't had a good Beaune since coming back from Dijon in the late 80s. I'm not chasing $50 and up wines and anything under $20 has not impressed me. Actually, the few times I've purchased $40-60 burgundy in the last few years I've been underwhelmed. This was nicely priced on WTSO.

Chianti Classico Riserva, Vigneto Odoardo Beccari Vignavecchia 2007 $23
Single vineyard Chianti that we like quite a bit. Again, WTSO.

Gelisi Antonio Sangue Di Giuda $9. Sweet, petillant red that has great flavors. I would not have expected to like this but it was recommended by the "wine guy" at Kroger.

And a local Virginia wine we like:
Villa Appalaccia Sangiovese (80% Sangiovese, 20% Montepulciano) $18

Justinphilly
09-27-2012, 08:11 AM
Malbec is an awesome red that a lot of people
Haven't heard of. It's a good dinner party wine. The reason i say this is because wine snobs can enjoy it, people who don't drink wine frequently can enjoy, and the person hosting the party can Enjoy it as well since there are several brands offering bottles less than $10. I prefer Malbecs that are cast in oak, as I love the oaky ( is this a word) flavors.

SeanGAR
09-27-2012, 09:00 PM
I find big, jammy Argentinian Malbecs often a bit much (too much alcohol, too ripe), but we really like Cahors as well as Virginia Malbecs such as Pearmund (not on their web page but available at the winery).

hammondc
09-28-2012, 08:10 PM
Had a very good bottle of "budget" wine at my brothers house tonight... 2009 Kendall Jackson GR Chardonnay. Retails $18. Not over oaked all.. Good buttery fruit, winner in my book.

I picked up a bottle of KJ 2009 Cabernet GR recently on sale for ~$15 that I was pretty damn impressed with.

Moses, I agree, for me budget is around 8-12 for a bottle (which great wine can be had for), however if anyone offers to share a bottle with me, they all are budget for me:D

Multi quoting you tonight. We should hang out. :tu

I agree. With my fairly limited experience (4 years being serious about wine), I find the $12-$15 range to be my sweet spot for everyday type wines.

hammondc
09-28-2012, 08:14 PM
as I love the oaky ( is this a word) flavors.

Definitely a quality (or taste) of wine and I agree. Some folks do not enjoy 'oaky' Cabs. I love it. If I could build a cab that was super jammy AND super oaky, I'd buy it.

ChicagoWhiteSox
09-28-2012, 09:25 PM
I picked up a bottle of KJ 2009 Cabernet GR recently on sale for ~$15 that I was pretty damn impressed with.



Multi quoting you tonight. We should hang out. :tu

I agree. With my fairly limited experience (4 years being serious about wine), I find the $12-$15 range to be my sweet spot for everyday type wines.

The GR chard was pretty good. I need to try the cab now, thanks for the heads up:)

mosesbotbol
09-29-2012, 07:08 AM
Definitely a quality (or taste) of wine and I agree. Some folks do not enjoy 'oaky' Cabs. I love it. If I could build a cab that was super jammy AND super oaky, I'd buy it.

Try a new world CA pinot noir.

hammondc
10-03-2012, 06:56 PM
Try a new world CA pinot noir.

Great. Any reccos?

mosesbotbol
10-04-2012, 06:17 AM
Great. Any reccos?

David Bruce or Kirkland/Costco Pinot

hammondc
12-06-2012, 10:16 PM
Again, on Moses' suggestion, I am checking out more spanish/portuguese wines these days. Had this one tonight. Outstanding for $10.

http://images.nitrosell.com/product_images/11/2665/large-Cortijo%20Rioja%2010LAB.jpg

mosesbotbol
12-07-2012, 12:37 PM
Again, on Moses' suggestion, I am checking out more spanish/portuguese wines these days. Had this one tonight. Outstanding for $10.

Nice. Take a look for Altano by Symington Estates (Portuguese), and any Crasto wines also from Portugal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8125939.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/grapes.jpg

never_enough
12-09-2012, 05:59 PM
I'm just starting to drink wine for a year or so. I don't have anything to add to this thread for now, but thanks for all the suggestions.

Also, I am debating on buying several bottles from empire wine online. Since I'm so new, I thought I would start buying the under $20 bottles that are rated 90+. Think thats a good starting point?

mosesbotbol
12-09-2012, 09:33 PM
I'm just starting to drink wine for a year or so. I don't have anything to add to this thread for now, but thanks for all the suggestions.

Also, I am debating on buying several bottles from empire wine online. Since I'm so new, I thought I would start buying the under $20 bottles that are rated 90+. Think thats a good starting point?

You can try starting with a country or region. Read up on the region, try the wines famous from the region. Take note of the grapes used and apply everything you learned to the next region. France is where I'd start, with Italy 2nd.

macsauce13
12-09-2012, 09:54 PM
My favorite budget wine is Apothic Red. It is a blend, but for 9.99-11.99 it is one of the best!

JohnRogers
12-10-2012, 12:23 AM
My favorite budget wine is Apothic Red. It is a blend, but for 9.99-11.99 it is one of the best!
A great bottle of wine often in our rack.

RWhisenand
12-10-2012, 10:50 PM
My favorite budget wine is Apothic Red. It is a blend, but for 9.99-11.99 it is one of the best!

Just tried two bottles of this, and it will become a regular staple in our rack.

never_enough
12-11-2012, 12:42 PM
G/f had some 14 hands chardonnay. She said she really liked it and I have seen it as low as $9 for a bottle.

Blak Smyth
12-11-2012, 12:46 PM
This has become a go to for me thanks to Ken (SteelCityBoy):
http://blog.bluef15h.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rootwine-6.jpg

mosesbotbol
12-11-2012, 01:33 PM
This has become a go to for me thanks to Ken (SteelCityBoy):
http://blog.bluef15h.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rootwine-6.jpg

Wasn't too crazy about that one. If memory serves right, it was quite extracted & juicy. Too new world style for me. Does get a lot of accolades though.

Blak Smyth
12-11-2012, 01:41 PM
Wasn't too crazy about that one. If memory serves right, it was quite extracted & juicy. Too new world style for me. Does get a lot of accolades though.

Yah I am new to wine so I have no idea what is meant to be what, I just know that to me it tastes good. :dr

JohnRogers
12-11-2012, 11:16 PM
Like what you smoke, smoke what you like...'err drink.

Ncpsycho
12-12-2012, 08:40 AM
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.


*here, I did it for you. (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45754)

Hahahahahahahaha thats great

Ncpsycho
12-12-2012, 08:41 AM
J. Lohr 7 Oaks cabernet $15 dry and great