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CoreyD
03-25-2011, 05:16 PM
I can justify paying over $100 for a box of cigars but can't justify paying that for a roaster so here I sit wanting to get into the roast your own hobby and stand at this crossroad http://www.amazon.com/West-Bend-82386-Popcorn-Roaster/dp/B002JM100Q/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1301090785&sr=8-11 is more my price range or http://www.amazon.com/Back-to-Basics-Nut-Roaster/dp/B000WJP3ZQ/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1301090785&sr=8-13
but will it do what I want or do I need to pull the plug on this http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-roasters/air-roasters/freshroast/sr300.html or http://www.alwayslowest.com/AL/index.cfm?fuseaction=shop.dspSpecs&part=4577424
Call me cheap or old fashioned but if I can save a buck I will.

forgop
03-25-2011, 05:25 PM
I can justify paying over $100 for a box of cigars but can't justify paying that for a roaster

Well, it's all about value. With a box of cigars, you smoke them and they're gone. With a $100 roaster, it'll provide benefits for presumably a few years down the road.

That said, I don't have a roaster yet, but the thought has crossed my mind. I've been content buying Starbucks beans, although I've always wondered if I could do an even better job. I haven't ventured into this area, but I'm also guessing that roasting your own would lower the price you pay for roasted beans, so your price would go down. :sh

CoreyD
03-26-2011, 04:19 AM
would this work for a coffee bean roaster? Now I'm serious and after shipping would only cost $11 http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?itemid=7627143 its a movie theater size popcorn popper

Aero95
03-27-2011, 05:01 PM
You can always trying using an oven. Here is a site to look at.

http://www.breworganic.com/coffee/howtoroast.htm

Mister Moo
03-27-2011, 05:26 PM
I can justify paying over $100 for a box of cigars but can't justify paying that for a roaster so ... Call me cheap ... but if I can save a buck I will.So, you're cheap. Roast outdoors with a stainless steel dog bowl and a heat gun. Works perfectly even if you're not cheap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDP94H3lJpg

Lumpold
03-27-2011, 06:19 PM
So, you're cheap. Roast outdoors with a stainless steel dog bowl and a heat gun. Works perfectly even if you're not cheap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDP94H3lJpg

And then, once you've got the hang of that, some people will kindly push you down the SCCO route... I'm still looking for the SC part of my setup, Moo.

replicant_argent
03-27-2011, 06:33 PM
the first two won't work very well.
You need something like this,
http://www.amazon.com/West-Bend-82416-Crazy-Popper/dp/B0036WS1GY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1301268718&sr=1-1
the higher the wattage the better. It will work as a stand alone device.

CoreyD
03-27-2011, 09:21 PM
LOL Not even minutes before a dear friend that I look up to and respect sends me a pm I was just about to post this ,, Well after running all around town looking for poppers or coffee roasters I decided to make this purchase from a wisconsin based internet site http://www.burmancoffee.com/equipment/freshroast_plus.coffee.roasterSR.html $152 I have a a FR300 coming and 1lb of Indonesian Sulawesi and 1/2 pound of jamaican mountain for free then bought 3 lbs of mixed peaberry and 1 lb of Rwanda Rukira Station A and 1 lb of Hawaiian mauii Kaanpali Blend and 2 lbs of Honduran Marcala San Marcos so , my so called cheap speech went out the window, Hope i didn't throw myself under the bus financially but i justify it as an investment.

floydpink
03-27-2011, 09:34 PM
I started with a Freshroast and got so hooked, I upgraded to the Behmor, which I bought from Burman Traders.

First class operation and a great roaster with a good sampling to get started with.

Mine is older, and doesn't have all the roasting curves and stuff the new ones have but still did a great job.

The Freshroast is easy to learn on and produces a very nice roast.

Warm it up for a minute before roasting for best results and be super careful with the glass roaster as I broke two fairly easily. (order a backup and thank me later)

If you like a darker roast, fill to glass roaster to just below the metal band on the bottom, otherwise the roaster is too small to bring larger batches to second crack.

Also, keep a collander close by to dump the beans as they finish hot and there's no cool down on the FR. (oven mitts will come in handy as the glass roaster is super hot and a surprising burn will cause the glass roaster to go flying and smashing into pieces, much to your dismay. Happened on my very first roast and the wait for a replacement was excruciating after just taking it out of the box.)

I am positive you will enjoy this roaster.

CoreyD
03-27-2011, 09:52 PM
TY for the replies and tips, I may have to ask revsmoke if I can come for a roasting lesson since he has a familiar machine....And now I need to find a metal colliander . all I have at home is plastic.

ashtonlady
03-27-2011, 10:21 PM
I thought mine had a cool down. I also started with a Fresh Roast 8 and bought it from the same company. You will not be disapointed.

MarkinCA
03-27-2011, 10:39 PM
Congratulations Corey! Still like the dawg bowl/hair dryer combo though;)

CoreyD
03-27-2011, 11:09 PM
I'm really looking forward to roasting the free half pound of Jamaican Blue Mountain Mavis Banks Gr. 1 Peaberry! but may wait to roast that till after a few roasts of something else to get a feel of it.

BSB
03-28-2011, 10:56 AM
FR DOES have a cool down and I run mine twice, before doing another batch. Works fine, no need to dump or burn yourself :sh

GolfNut
03-28-2011, 11:09 AM
Congrats on your purchase. For anyone else just starting out, here's my suggestion: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00004SU35/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=284507&s=kitchen

The Whirley pop runs about $20. We used one of these for nearly a year before we upgraded to the Behmor 1600. using this stove top method really helps you understand the roasting process. You can really hear first & second crack, you have ultimate control over the roast intensity too. It's really fun to peek inside and say...maybe just a little bit darker..... Keep a log of your roasting times/bean handy to replicate roasts or improve on them one way or the other.

I can hardly wait to get back into roasting again, especially since we found a friend's grandmother has a coffee plantation in Honduras and will ship us the green beans!

Mister Moo
03-28-2011, 12:15 PM
And then, once you've got the hang of that, some people will kindly push you down the SCCO route... I'm still looking for the SC part of my setup, Moo.Lumpy! You want me to send you a 110VAC one? I will, you know. :banger

I've gone semi-commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uNXxunsGKo), you know... :D

replicant_argent
03-28-2011, 12:28 PM
Lumpy! You want me to send you a 110VAC one? I will, you know. :banger

I've gone semi-commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uNXxunsGKo), you know... :D

<bats eyes> My Heeeeeeeeeeeeroooooooooooooooooo.

CoreyD
03-29-2011, 01:43 PM
Wooooot I got what you can call literally Speedee delivery. Let me clarify so sunday night I purchased online with no shipping confirmation yet thinking they have yet to process it. Today Tuesday, I got woken up by postal worker knocking on door with a box full of pipe baccy and pipes I got from a BOTL. Smoked a bowl and saw a White delivery truck drive into my parking lot with the words SPEE-DEE Delivery on the side and he walked up to my door and sure enough it was from Burman Coffee.
Opened up the box just so happy at the customer service and just so excited to try out my new toy and started looking at my haul. Grabbed the Ethiopian Yirgacheffe PB from the box and beans poured all over my bed and floor,looked at bag and it had a split on the seam. Looked in box and more beans.
Now its all there so whats a man to do, I can't complain to them because I got my lb of that bean just not neatly in the package and it probably happened during shipment so to me its not there fault. Well still satisfied of my box of goodies, time to go read and roast some coffee. I am just so amazed on how quick it got here without a shipping confirmation #.

CoreyD
03-29-2011, 01:50 PM
Also the 3 lb PB bundle I thought would be mixed for 14.95 but it wasn't it was seperate bagged , had I know that I would of ordered the 3 lb dark for 11.40 and the 3 lb popular for 13.48

CoreyD
03-29-2011, 03:00 PM
Man this is hard first batch of Rwanda looked to dark and 2nd batch i used honuran and looked to light but both had 1 crack but when I grinded the honduran it was brown. Man this is gonna take some practice. Man this is sight deceiving, the Honduran brewed a nice dark coffee but yet the grounds were brown.

ashtonlady
03-29-2011, 06:28 PM
And the fun begins. :D

CoreyD
03-29-2011, 06:33 PM
Turns out the roast I thought I burnt turned out nicely, its hard for me to tell whats a first crack and 2nd crack cause it sounds like popcorn once it starts cooking, but looks dark so not sure when to throw on cool cycle, but I just roasted one past the popping it stopped and just started to make sound again so that must be what the 2nd crack is but looks so dark out of the roaster. and the one i did that was light was just before the first crack really got started good. I mixed that with one that was right before the crack and turns out light but good clean taste.
Man this is fun I'm gonna play a little some more. maybe I'll ask Todd <Revsmoke> if I can come over on a roasting day and see the experienced do it if I have off that day.

floydpink
03-29-2011, 07:46 PM
Second crack normally starts about 2 minutes after first crack has stopped.
It's also the most important time to keep a very close eye on the roast as it's when over roasting and risk of fire is greatest

ashtonlady
03-29-2011, 08:26 PM
1st crack sounds like popcorn the 2nd crack sounds like rice crispys

GolfNut
03-29-2011, 09:54 PM
1st crack sounds like popcorn the 2nd crack sounds like rice crispys

+1

floydpink
03-31-2011, 10:06 AM
'zactly.
Follow the sound and your nose.

I'm sorta miserable. I'm on Ft Lauderdale beach for the week, roasted a pound of beans, forgot the grinder, and am on my 4th day of Starbucks

germantown rob
04-01-2011, 06:16 AM
'zactly.
Follow the sound and your nose.

I'm sorta miserable. I'm on Ft Lauderdale beach for the week, roasted a pound of beans, forgot the grinder, and am on my 4th day of Starbucks

put beans in sock, smash with rock, pour water and drip into cup. ;s

replicant_argent
04-01-2011, 07:58 AM
'zactly.
Follow the sound and your nose.

I'm sorta miserable. I'm on Ft Lauderdale beach for the week, roasted a pound of beans, forgot the grinder, and am on my 4th day of Starbucks

Rather than spending far too much at Charbucks for charcoaled floor sweepings, I would have gone and grabbed a whirly blade.

ashtonlady
04-01-2011, 08:14 AM
:tpd:

CoreyD
04-02-2011, 09:35 PM
yeah or look for a biglots or dollar general with a grinder... a cheap grinder beats paying an arm and leg at bucksstar anyday