Cuban Taste?

[Flynnster]

Hey there guys, just curious on this, how do cubans taste compared to NC? Also, what NC taste the most like cubans?

Just always wondered, I'll probably never have a chance to try a cuban, but in case I do it would be cool to know what to expect.

[NCRadioMan]

Hey there guys, just curious on this, how do cubans taste compared to NC? Also, what NC taste the most like cubans?

Just always wondered, I'll probably never have a chance to try a cuban, but in case I do it would be cool to know what to expect.

It's very hard to describe the taste of Cubans compared to NC's. They are just different and frankly, there are no NC's that really taste Cuban. Some of Pepin's stuff will mimic Cubans every once and while but that's all, imo. To me, the most like a Cuban is the original Cabaiguan and only after a year or two of age on them. Seen a number of people get fooled in blind taste tests with them.

Participate on the forum, get into some trades and you never know when one ore two may fall in your lap.

:2

[Bill86]

IMO they aren't as harsh, much more subtle flavors than aggressive. In my experiences they are also not pepper bombs. It's really hard to explain you just have to try them. I guess to me I would call them "refined". Like a good bottle of booze, mellow yet flavorful with the same kick.

[pektel]

IMO they aren't as harsh, much more subtle flavors than aggressive. In my experiences they are also not pepper bombs. It's really hard to explain you just have to try them. I guess to me I would call them "refined". Like a good bottle of booze, mellow yet flavorful with the same kick.

I also find that snorking cc's is not as harsh. Refined is a nice term to describe them, and I agree I don't get much pepper. I've also found the overall scent of the burning cigar to be more pleasant. Well, the gf normally comments on the smell. She likes the smell of most cc's I've smoked around her, but she has yet to like the smell of nc smoke.
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[HollywoodQue]

Flavor, Flavor, Flavor!!!

[HollywoodQue]

[QUOTE=Flynnster;1203758]Hey there guys, just curious on this, how do cubans taste compared to NC? Also, what NC taste the most like cubans?

Go to the Habanos Thread and you will find several Newbie recommendations on first time cc's. It breaks down a lot of information on various brands. That would be a great start in your selection process.

[pektel]

Dependingon length of time here, number of posts, and other factors, he may not be able to see all the forums yet. I'm using the mobile version of the site, so I don't know his stats.
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[md4958]

Participate on the forum, get into some trades and you never know when one ore two may fall in your lap.



Holy crap!! I think this is the best advice that anybody has given on this subject, ever.

:tpd:tpd:tpd

I would only add, get out to meet other BOTLs at HERFS or cigar events.

[Flynnster]

Thanks guys! And no I do not have access to the cuban forum yet, it seems like I did when I first signed up, then I took a break, when I came back it's gone.

I'll get into some trade as soon as I get something to store cigars (15 count travel), I would hate to get a few sticks and not be able tot store them properly.

[md4958]

Thanks guys! And no I do not have access to the cuban forum yet, it seems like I did when I first signed up, then I took a break, when I came back it's gone.

I'll get into some trade as soon as I get something to store cigars (15 count travel), I would hate to get a few sticks and not be able tot store them properly.

a large ziplock with a humipack, or some 5 finger baggies, or some tupperware, or a small cooler.....

[tedrodgerscpa]

It's very hard to describe the taste of Cubans compared to NC's. They are just different and frankly, there are no NC's that really taste Cuban. Some of Pepin's stuff will mimic Cubans every once and while but that's all, imo. To me, the most like a Cuban is the original Cabaiguan and only after a year or two of age on them. Seen a number of people get fooled in blind taste tests with them.

Participate on the forum, get into some trades and you never know when one ore two may fall in your lap.

:2


I agree with everything Mr. Lovebiscuit said. 100%

[Zeuceone]

I heard the, not sure if its a certain stick, sancho panzas taste pretty close to the cuban made ones.

[T.G]

I heard the, not sure if its a certain stick, sancho panzas taste pretty close to the cuban made ones.

Not to me. :2

[Flynnster]

Do the cubans range flavor wise the same way no cubans do or are they all pretty much the same?

[md4958]

I heard the, not sure if its a certain stick, sancho panzas taste pretty close to the cuban made ones.

Not to me. :2


me either


Do the cubans range flavor wise the same way no cubans do or are they all pretty much the same?

If they all tasted the same there would be no reason for different marcas. Each marca has its own characteristic "profile"

[awsmith4]

me either




If they all tasted the same there would be no reason for different marcas. Each marca has its own characteristic "profile"

:tpd:

Also each vitola can be a different taste within a marca

[pnoon]

I heard the, not sure if its a certain stick, sancho panzas taste pretty close to the cuban made ones.
IMO, not even remotely close.
I don't know where you heard that but that is the first time I have ever heard anyone make that claim.
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[pektel]

I smoked an old torano tribute torpedo that tasted kind of grassy. That's the closest I've got to any sort of taste in the cc profile. But the pepper was distinctly nc.
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[Humpdebump]

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Where are stats to see when you qualify

[T.G]

Where are stats to see when you qualify

The ToE has never publicly published that information. Participate and contribute to the community and forums will become accessible.

[guitar4001]

some non-cubans taste better than some cubans. this is just my opinion of course, but I think that its hard to argue that guantanamera, LFdC, Statos de Luxe, Quintero, etc are better cigars than Padron, Tats, Opus X, DPGs, and a host of other well-made non-cuban smokes.

comparing apples to oranges huh?

[NCRadioMan]

but I think that its hard to argue that guantanamera, LFdC, Statos de Luxe, Quintero, etc are better cigars than Padron, Tats, Opus X, DPGs, and a host of other well-made non-cuban smokes.


Are you trying to compare $2 cigars to $8-15 cigars?

[wayner123]

Are you trying to compare $1-2 cigars to $8-15 cigars?

I don't think he was trying to compare them at all. It seems more like he was saying that would be unfair to do so.

However, cost has never played a major part in comparison for me. Greycliff's and Gurkha's both have very high prices, but are worse than some $3 cigars, imo.

[OLS]

Are you trying to compare $2 cigars to $8-15 cigars?He DID...HE DID that! It's OK, He from G'boro, so he alright in my book.
But yeah......he DID that. I would agree that Padron 4 dollar cigars are better than
Guantanamera. Los Statos Deluxe.... closer but Padron wins. I think what I am
saying is that I only buy habanos, and no Padron is going to get me off of that truck.
I love Padrons, to me there is not much better flavor to be found in cigars. But I do
not shop in B&M stores as long as Fidel still delivers.
It's hard to explain. I guess it's best characterized in a scene from....wait, that's SNL.
I MEAN, I have more habanos than I can smoke in two lifetimes, so I do not see NCs as
being worth the money....see? There is no NC that is going to make me go out and start
spending money on MORE cigars. But I try not to bash them as a rule. I just prefer that
delicious tea flavor I only seem to get with CT.

[md4958]

some non-cubans taste better than some cubans. this is just my opinion of course, but I think that its hard to argue that guantanamera, LFdC, Statos de Luxe, Quintero, etc are better cigars than Padron, Tats, Opus X, DPGs, and a host of other well-made non-cuban smokes.

comparing apples to oranges huh?

A fairer analogy would be comparing very expensive apples to fruit-snacks. If you wanna be fair compare cigars on a dollar for dollar basis.

I would still take the LFdC, Statos, Quintero over thier NC counterparts though. You can keep the Guant. :D

[akumushi]

I also find that snorking cc's is not as harsh. Refined is a nice term to describe them, and I agree I don't get much pepper. I've also found the overall scent of the burning cigar to be more pleasant. Well, the gf normally comments on the smell. She likes the smell of most cc's I've smoked around her, but she has yet to like the smell of nc smoke.
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This is too true. My wife gets on my case about how bad I reek after smoking NCs, but she complains far less about CCs, and has actually said "that smells good" while I was smoking a CC on several occasions.

[VirtualSmitty]

Kristoff cigars have an elite cuban taste if you believe the band :r

Cuban cigars taste like cigars from cuba. Cigars made elsewhere don't :tu

[Christiel49]

He DID...HE DID that! It's OK, He from G'boro, so he alright in my book.
But yeah......he DID that. I would agree that Padron 4 dollar cigars are better than
Guantanamera. Los Statos Deluxe.... closer but Padron wins. I think what I am
saying is that I only buy habanos, and no Padron is going to get me off of that truck.
I love Padrons, to me there is not much better flavor to be found in cigars. But I do
not shop in B&M stores as long as Fidel still delivers.
It's hard to explain. I guess it's best characterized in a scene from....wait, that's SNL.
I MEAN, I have more habanos than I can smoke in two lifetimes, so I do not see NCs as
being worth the money....see? There is no NC that is going to make me go out and start
spending money on MORE cigars. But I try not to bash them as a rule. I just prefer that
delicious tea flavor I only seem to get with CT.


:sw:hm:hm

[sam a]

some non-cubans taste better than some cubans. this is just my opinion of course, but I think that its hard to argue that guantanamera, LFdC, Statos de Luxe, Quintero, etc are better cigars than Padron, Tats, Opus X, DPGs, and a host of other well-made non-cuban smokes.

comparing apples to oranges huh?

i personally prefer LFdC and los statos de luxe to padron, tats, opus, and dpgs :sh

[Humpdebump]

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Gotcha, thanks:tu

[Bunker]

Smoke what you like. I don't smoke a lot of CC's.

There are good and bad just like NC's, the problem is you get something that says Habana on the label and you instantly expect it to be the greatest smoke ever.

The last 4-5 I have had were dissappointing.

I like most of the NC's I have paired down my selection to at this point. For the mpost part I know what to expect when I light one. There are a few cc's I could see myself going through the hoops needed to get some but everytime I consider it I ended buying more NC's instead.

I like the easy way when it comes to cigars :sh

[tx_tuff]

Cubans taste like Cubans, Nicaraguan taste like Nicaraguan, Dominican taste like Dominican and etc.... I prefer the taste of a Nicaraguan so thats what I buy the most of.

[OLS]

:sw:hm:hmWhat part of that, aside from maybe all of it, made you say that, Chris??
I'd be happy to further dig myself into a hole by explaining. :D

[SDmate]

Cubans taste like Cubans, Nicaraguan taste like Nicaraguan, Dominican taste like Dominican and etc.... I prefer the taste of a Nicaraguan so thats what I buy the most of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pwvB4_Te8A
:D

[guitar4001]

I don't think he was trying to compare them at all. It seems more like he was saying that would be unfair to do so.

However, cost has never played a major part in comparison for me. Greycliff's and Gurkha's both have very high prices, but are worse than some $3 cigars, imo.

Correct. I am only saying that I prefer MANY non-cuban cigars over the cubans mentioned in the quote.

The way that I read the original post simply referred to "cubans" in general. I am just pointing out the fact that some cubans are known turds. Also, some non-cubans suck at any price.

[guitar4001]

He DID...HE DID that! It's OK, He from G'boro, so he alright in my book.
But yeah......he DID that. I would agree that Padron 4 dollar cigars are better than
Guantanamera. Los Statos Deluxe.... closer but Padron wins. I think what I am
saying is that I only buy habanos, and no Padron is going to get me off of that truck.
I love Padrons, to me there is not much better flavor to be found in cigars. But I do
not shop in B&M stores as long as Fidel still delivers.
It's hard to explain. I guess it's best characterized in a scene from....wait, that's SNL.
I MEAN, I have more habanos than I can smoke in two lifetimes, so I do not see NCs as
being worth the money....see? There is no NC that is going to make me go out and start
spending money on MORE cigars. But I try not to bash them as a rule. I just prefer that
delicious tea flavor I only seem to get with CT.

More cigars than two lifetimes eh? There are two of us...i'll take your extra lifetime worth of smokes. I have some high quality pork rinds to trade courtesy of Nahunta Pork Center. They are delicious.

[OLS]

I am actually looking for a woman to share my stash with. Sort of a dowry. But barring success in that,
How do you look in a wig?

[icehog3]

I am actually looking for a woman to share my stash with. Sort of a dowry. But barring success in that,
How do you look in a wig?

Do you like Opus X? Then you could ask how someone looks in a wig wam. ;)

[T.G]

:r:r:r

[Smokin Gator]

I am actually looking for a woman to share my stash with. Sort of a dowry. But barring success in that,
How do you look in a wig?

I was actually thinking of asking you the same question Brad:r:r:r Got any Tainos???

[Christiel49]

I am actually looking for a woman to share my stash with. Sort of a dowry. But barring success in that,
How do you look in a wig?

LMFAO! Exactly what I was thinking. 2 lifetimes worth? Hummm
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[guitar4001]

LMFAO! Exactly what I was thinking. 2 lifetimes worth? Hummm
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I would make a rough looking woman. I wouldn't wanna date me.

[OLS]

Ask Tom Icehog, I am walking FAAR too thin a line on this lately, ROFLMAO.

[icehog3]

Ask Tom Icehog, I am walking FAAR too thin a line on this lately, ROFLMAO.

Could be worse, Brad. Could be Peter.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/pnoon.jpg

[Blueface]

Cuban Taste?

Can be expensive if married to my wife.:D

[Flynnster]

How quick this thread got derailed, haha

[icehog3]

How quick this thread got derailed, haha

Once the relevant points are made, it is usually time for some joking in the Asylum....sorry if we took you off course Brother. :)

[DennisP]

Once the relevant points are made, it is usually time for some joking in the Asylum....sorry if we took you off course Brother. :)

Joking? There is NOTHING funny about that picture!

[floydpink]

Anyone seen Moki?;s

[DennisP]

Anyone seen Moki?;s

http://www.collectiveroots.org/files/u3/can_of_worms.jpg

[emopunker2004]

flynnster, send me your address so I can send you the CA newsletter to keep you on the up and up

[Flynnster]

Once the relevant points are made, it is usually time for some joking in the Asylum....sorry if we took you off course Brother. :)

No problem man,other than the nightmares from the picture!!

[guitar4001]

what were we discussing again?

[Flynnster]

OLS seems to be looking for a mate. Woman or man in wig. Good to know he isn't picky.

[guitar4001]

oh that's right. OLS, you need to hit up biggals.com.

[Stinky]

What do Cuban cigars taste like? O! M! G!

I gotta give this one a try:

Yes. Cuban cigars have a unique flavor and aroma. The flavors in various Cuban brands and blends are as diverse as any other brand or country in the world. However, most of the "Super Premium" Cuban brands have that unique flavor & aroma. But, not all! REMEMBER: It's STILL a cigar! Cuban cigars are still made with CIGAR TOBACCO! And never forget: When Castro took over, he nationalized all business. The cigar farmers & cigar makers ALL left! They were very prosperous businessmen and refused to work for the "state". They ended up around the world and are now the people growing and rolling the BEST cigars from everywhere else in the world. Cuban cigars are made by their Government! Hmmmm.

I guess a better question would be: "In your opinion, is the flavor & aroma of Cuban cigars better?"
. . . or another question would be: "Is the difference in Cuban cigars worth all the hub-bub?"

Here's my opinion(s):
Many of the super-premium Cuban cigars are very good.
I simply believe that the (little) difference is not worth all the extra costs & risks.
JMHO

Cuban cigars are supposed to be composed from ALL Cuban-grown tobaccos. (FYI: rumors in the industry say Cuba is buying tobacco from other countries because they simply cannot keep up with their demand) If you smoked "puros" cigars from Nicaragua, Cuba, Honduras, Mexico, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Porto Rico, Brazil, Ecuador, Dominican Republic(?), etc. and they were each made totally with tobaccos grown in that country. . . you'll soon realize that tobacco from each country has a unique flavor/aroma.

Every time I read or discuss Cuban cigars, I'm compelled to share my findings which are confirmed by the famed writers in most cigar books and all cigar magazines:

95-percent of all Cuban cigars that make their way into the USA are counterfeit! The black-market for Cuban cigars is very strong based on the GIGANTIC mark-up! The REAL counterfeiters are in production just like any other cigar company. They exist in numerous countries including CUBA! Read up, guys!~

And, don't kid yourself! There are abundant stories about authorized Habanos dealers who get a big kick out of selling their black market fakes to the suckers in the USA! They know 95% of the Americans just don't know the difference! And, I understand this might be difficult for some of you to believe . . . but, most of them . . . just want your money! They are VERY nice to you and treat you like a 'bro' . . . but, in the end, they just want the US Dollars!

So? You think your Cubans are real? Could be! I'm just sayin' . . . You think you're in the elite 5% who have the real-deal and a direct Cuban connection? Good for you, if you do. You think you can tell if it's real by smoking one?

[pnoon]

On this point, I think we all can agree.
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Here's my opinion(s):

[borndead1]

To me, the most like a Cuban is the original Cabaiguan and only after a year or two of age on them.

I agree. Also IMO the Tatuaje Red Label churchill and a little known line of cigars called Cacique Miami, made by Tabacalera Tropical. But it's not the "same" flavor. Sort of like an "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" type flavor. It's almost there.

[Blueface]

Oh man, the infamous and very much statistically unfounded 95% rule and therefore we are smoking fakes.
When will that BS story cease to surface?

Some still believe in the tooth fairy also.

[pektel]

I was thinking the same thing. How could they statistically analyze black market?
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[cort]

All I know is that my fakes taste delicious:noon

[Bill86]

All I know is that my fakes taste delicious:noon

So do mine especially my fake 08 CoLas :dr those are wonderful.

Oh man, the infamous and very much statistically unfounded 95% rule and therefore we are smoking fakes.
When will that BS story cease to surface?

Some still believe in the tooth fairy also.


Wait the tooth fairy isn't real?!?!?

[kelmac07]

Next you're gonna tell me that there is no Easter bunny. :D

[Bill86]

Next you're gonna tell me that there is no Easter bunny. :D

No way he is the real deal. I get cadbury cream eggs every year as proof! Unless those are fakes :confused:

[markem]

What do Cuban cigars taste like? O! M! G!


You really need to do stand up comedy.

Did you know that almost 95% of all NC cigars in the US are fakes? Backed up by well known writers in magazines and elsewhere to boot! Almost all NCs come from the same llama farm in Peru. Not dog rockets, but closely related. :D

But my writing isn't nearly as funny as yours.

[shilala]

Oh man, the infamous and very much statistically unfounded 95% rule and therefore we are smoking fakes.
When will that BS story cease to surface?

Some still believe in the tooth fairy also.
Consider the source, Carlos. If you're heavily invested in the sale/profit of cigars that you personally sell, or are deeply invested in, doesn't it make sense to propagate propaganda?
It took a single post for me to completely lose respect for an entire organization. I don't think I'm at all interested in CRA protecting my cigar smoking rights. I'd rather go with an outfit that's willing to roll the dice by spreading truth. :tu

[md4958]

Here's my opinion(s):
I simply believe that the (little) difference is not worth all the extra costs & risks.
JMHO

95-percent of all Cuban cigars that make their way into the USA are counterfeit!

Your "cubans" must have been part of that 95% Stinky! :rolleyes:

[markem]

Oh man, the infamous and very much statistically unfounded 95% rule and therefore we are smoking fakes.
When will that BS story cease to surface?

Some still believe in the tooth fairy also.

People with vested interests, as Scott pointed out, will misrepresent numbers to their advantage. I would tend to agree that if a vendor (e.g., a B&M) in the US is advertising Cuban cigars that they are fakes. Perhaps more than 95% since CCs are illegal for that vendor to import and sell on US soil. But to then extend this in the way that some do is, well ... let's see, there are lies, dammed lies and then something that begins with 'statistics' :D

[icehog3]

Jibbity, jibbity, rat-a-tat-tat.

[T.G]

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7/dosequisinteresting.jpg

[macsauce13]

It took a single post for me to completely lose respect for an entire organization.

Sadly me too, Scott...