Rant: Cigar Bums

[cmitch]

Okay, so I'm a nice guy, at least most of the time. But, often, more times than not, I carry these great sticks with me to enjoy when a not so educated person wants to 'try' one of my sticks. But, you don't 'try' a stick. You 'try' a cigarette. If the stun sucks, you put it out and that's it. Period. But a cigar is different. Palettes are different and flavors often change while smoking a cigar. These ignoramuses think they should try a stick on my investment. Forget that I paid $7 to $10 for the stick, more than they paid for their worthless pack of cigarettes. For some reason, they think I owe them a shot at one of my expensive sticks and they've never smoked a cigar before. I have no problem sharing great smokes with someone who has developed a taste for a fine cigar. But, if someone wants to try a cigar, especially a first time cigar smoker, they need to try it on their own dime.

Free loaders.

Rant over.

[wayner123]

Or just carry around really good cheap cigars.

[E.J.]

If you don't want to give someone a cigar, don't....:confused:

An easy, "I'd be happy to sell you one, if you'd like"....or something like that, still gives them the opportunity to try a cigar, just not on your dime.

[cmitch]

Or just carry around really good cheap cigars.
Good cheap cigars is an oxymoron.:D

I had noticed that when I started hanging out at the local B&M, I never was offered a stick to try. I just rummaged through the humidor and tried several sticks on my money and have settled on some good smokes. I still go out and try new ones and I find it educational to do so. I've only laid two cigars down, the first was the rot gut Acid blondie and the other was a Turano Virtuoso.

Now, I find myself not only sharing with others, but others sharing good sticks with me. No one has ever given me a stick and said, "Hey, this is a great stick you need to try" while snickering under their breath that they just gave me a dog turd. It's an unwritten rule of respect. Don't give anything to anybody you wouldn't smoke yourself.

So, when I feel that a person has developed a palate that deserves some tasty new tries, then I'll share. But the one and only time I shared a cigar with an unexperienced smoker, he laid the $9 stick in the ash tray and left it.

[Apoco]

That's what the CAO golds in my travel humi are for :)

Unless we're talking about a total stranger. In which case they are SOL.
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[replicant_argent]

I imagine your view of this will change over time.

[cmitch]

If you don't want to give someone a cigar, don't....:confused:

An easy, "I'd be happy to sell you one, if you'd like"....or something like that, still gives them the opportunity to try a cigar, just not on your dime.

As I explained, I love to share. I'm very generous with my cigars, but only to B'sOTL. Not some cigarette huffing newbie that wants to 'try' one. I guess it's just ignorance of the non cigar smoker at play.

[cmitch]

That's what the CAO golds in my travel humi are for :)

Unless we're talking about a total stranger. In which case they are SOL.
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You just gave me an evil idea. Maybe I need to carry a couple of Acid Liquids around with me.:r

Yes, and a lot of these people are strangers.

[wayner123]

Good cheap cigars is an oxymoron.:D


Not really. Here is a good bit of reading:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=643&highlight=cheap

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35435&highlight=cheap

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14909&highlight=cheap

And just for discussion... just because someone doesn't have a well versed cigar palate doesn't mean they can't or won't appreciate a cigar the way a veteran smoker might.

[replicant_argent]

I imagine your view of this will change over time.

You just gave me an evil idea. Maybe I need to carry a couple of Acid Liquids around with me.:r

or... Perhaps not.

[neoflex]

If you find this happening a lot when you go out get in the habit of bringing a few cheap smokes or just get comfortable with the idea of saying "No." I know how painful it is to share one of your higher end sticks with someone only to find it only have a quarter inch smoked and sitting in an ashtray. This is another reason why I like to keep some cheaper smokes on hand besides for mowing the grass. When we have BBQs in the summer I always light up a cigar and offer my guests one if they would like one. I usually ask what they normally smoke and if I discover that they are not much of a cigar smoker I usually offer them something a little on the lower end or that I scored on the cheap just so it's not so painful to find the stick tossed way too early as more often than not that is the case as they tend to want to smoke because everyone else is enjoying one. I also try and keep Dirt Torpedos on hand to satisfy the crowd that always asks if I have anything flavored as these are not flavored so it's safe to keep in the humidor with the rest of my collection but they are very sweet and usually please that crowd very well. When we used to have people over more often I used to keep a separate humidor that was coined the "Moochadore." It was always loaded with good but cheaper smokes. People I meet who I catch the vibe they are a regular cigar smoker or those I know are a cigar smoker are always welcome to whatever I have.

[cmitch]

Not really. Here is a good bit of reading:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=643&highlight=cheap

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35435&highlight=cheap

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14909&highlight=cheap

And just for discussion... just because someone doesn't have a well versed cigar palate doesn't mean they can't or won't appreciate a cigar the way a veteran smoker might.

Maybe I wasn't crystal with my rant. I have nothing against sharing with a newbie cigar smoker per se. It's these cigarette huffing chain smokers who think I should peel out a stick for them. Like I said, it kills me to see a good $8 to $10 stick get laid down. Maybe I should carry some cheapies around to satiate these guys.

[cmitch]

If you find this happening a lot when you go out get in the habit of bringing a few cheap smokes or just get comfortable with the idea of saying "No." I know how painful it is to share one of your higher end sticks with someone only to find it only have a quarter inch smoked and sitting in an ashtray. People I meet who I catch the vibe they are a regular cigar smoker are always welcome to whatever I have. This is another reason why I like to keep some cheaper smokes on hand besides for mowing the grass. When we have BBQs in the summer I always light up a cigar and offer my guests one if they would like one. I usually ask what they normally smoke and if I discover that they are not much of a cigar smoker I usually offer them something a little on the lower end or that I scored on the cheap just so it's not so painful to find the stick tossed way too early as more often than not that is the case as they tend to want to smoke because everyone else is enjoying one. I also try and keep Dirt Torpedos on hand to satisfy the crowd that always asks if I have anything flavored as these are not flavored so it's safe to keep in the humidor with the rest of my collection but they are very sweet and usually please that crowd very well. When we used to have people over more often I used to keep a separate humidor that was coined the "Moochadore." It was always loaded with good but cheaper smokes.
There ya go!:tu
I'll try some of these options.

[E.J.]

Our opinions just differ on this I guess....and that is 100% okay. There is no right and wrong here.

Though it is nice to give an experienced cigar smoker a nice cigar, I get as much pleasure giving a great cigar to someone just dipping their feet in this ocean....

Too many people have no idea what a good cigar tastes like.... I'd like to change that and can, one person at a time....:tu

[wayner123]

Maybe I wasn't crystal with my rant. I have nothing against sharing with a newbie cigar smoker per se. It's these cigarette huffing chain smokers who think I should peel out a stick for them. Like I said, it kills me to see a good $8 to $10 stick get laid down.

I guess I am still confused :confused:

Is it that you have a disdain for cigarette chain smokers?

Or that the stick they laid down cost a certain amount?

[neoflex]

Good cheap cigars is an oxymoron.:D.
I would disagree with this. I have plenty of cheaper smokes that I consider very good and am never ashamed to smoke myself. I even would consider a box I score on C-Bid or Auctioneer on the cheap but may normally run $7-$8 a stick a cheap smoke just because if I scored it on the cheap than it's a cheap smoke.

[cmitch]

I would disagree with this. I have plenty of cheaper smokes that I consider very good and am never ashamed to smoke myself. I even would consider a box I score on C-Bid or Auctioneer on the cheap but may normally run $7-$8 a stick a cheap smoke just because if I scored it on the cheap than it's a cheap smoke.
Notice my smiley?

Nick's Sticks are cheap cigars that I often enjoy. I've not had a bad Perdomo product . . . yet.

[neoflex]

My bad. The problem with written word is it can always be interpreted different by everyone.;s

[enlightenedcigar]

This is the sole purpose that I have a mooch-a-dor. A good friend told me about how he has one. Basically, I keep a humidor full of really cheap stuff that I have bought just for this occassion, when someone asks for a cigar I pop open that humidor and say take which ever you would like. It makes them excited that they are getting to pick their own cigar and I don't have to worry about losing money on someone that probably won't even finish the stick! WIN WIN!!!

[MajorCaptSilly]

I love giving cigars away. Whenever I am at a party or one if the few bars in my area that still allow cigar smoking, I always bring plenty of extra. You meet some of the nicest people through the simple gift of a cigar. I don't care if they're mooching or genuinely curious, the world today can be so callous and cynical that a smile from a stranger and some casual conversation helps to remind me that what we need most is connection to our fellow human beings.


MCS

[CRIMPS]

umm, I guess I don't agree with OP. Sorry :(

[swh127]

I love giving out cigars to my friends to try. Now most of my friends have similar pallets to myself so what I smoke usually will fit them. However, when I go to paintball events or PSU tailgates, my ammo-box (lined with spanish cedar) always has some innexpensive (good smokes but less than $2 bucks) that I will hand out to the few guys I know will probably only ever smoke half to 1/4 of the cigar before throwing it away.

On the flip side, I have received alot of great cigars over the years from friends and random people I was smoking with. I see it as a sort of cigar karma.

[Noodles]

I only gift what I smoke. There is a group of friend I hangout with that always wants to smoke cigars. They know about my collection. So they kind of expect it. They will smoke whatever I am smoking. Finish or not, that is fine with me.

I've gifted cigars to total strangers I've met in cigar bars. Again, I give them what I am smoking. A few years ago, I met this guy at Casa Fuente in Vegas. he was talking about smoking a Monte #2 during his honeymoon. Proceeded to give him one. His quick one hour smoke turned into a few hours of conversation with me.

I can understand not wanting to waste good cigars though.

[cmitch]

I guess I am still confused :confused:

Is it that you have a disdain for cigarette chain smokers?

Or that the stick they laid down cost a certain amount?

I have a disdain for cigarette chain smokers who have no respect for the leaf, bum a cigar only to lay it down after lighting it. That is why I don't gift cigars except to those who I know will enjoy them.

Again, as one mentioned, there is no 'right' or 'wrong', just opinions. I just wanted those here to share their opinions about this and they have. Discussion is great.

I love giving out cigars to my friends to try. Now most of my friends have similar pallets to myself so what I smoke usually will fit them. However, when I go to paintball events or PSU tailgates, my ammo-box (lined with spanish cedar) always has some innexpensive (good smokes but less than $2 bucks) that I will hand out to the few guys I know will probably only ever smoke half to 1/4 of the cigar before throwing it away.

On the flip side, I have received alot of great cigars over the years from friends and random people I was smoking with. I see it as a sort of cigar karma.

I've have often bought boxes and taken them to parties. That's a totally different subject. I'm speaking of the guy who thinks he's just entitled to try a stick to see if he'll like it. They usually don't. These same guys would be taken aback if you asked them for a pack of cigarettes. I'm chalking it up as a lack of understanding of what cigars really are.

Your solution is a doable one. I will consider keeping a few 'cheapies' on hand for this purpose.

[cmitch]

I only gift what I smoke. There is a group of friend I hangout with that always wants to smoke cigars. They know about my collection. So they kind of expect it. They will smoke whatever I am smoking. Finish or not, that is fine with me.

I've gifted cigars to total strangers I've met in cigar bars. Again, I give them what I am smoking. A few years ago, I met this guy at Casa Fuente in Vegas. he was talking about smoking a Monte #2 during his honeymoon. Proceeded to give him one. His quick one hour smoke turned into a few hours of conversation with me.

I can understand not wanting to waste good cigars though.

That's perfectly understandable. But that guy wasn't a bum, either. I've given away quite a few to strangers. Just not to strangers who ask for them just to ask.

There's a huge difference to gifting sticks to someone, stranger or not, who you think will enjoy it and someone who thinks they're entitled to it because they ask. It's not like you're shaking a 30 cent cigarette out of a pack.

[Commander Quan]

Where are you at when people are asking you to try a cigar? And are these friends, acquaintances, or total strangers.

I have no problem sharing with someone I know, but If I've never met you and you walk up and ask me for a free cigar the answer is "No" If they come up and ask me what I'm smoking and they are genuinely interested I'll ask if they want one, but I'm not going to hand them out to freeloaders.

[cmitch]

Where are you at when people are asking you to try a cigar? And are these friends, acquaintances, or total strangers.

I have no problem sharing with someone I know, but If I've never met you and you walk up and ask me for a free cigar the answer is "No" If they come up and ask me what I'm smoking and they are genuinely interested I'll ask if they want one, but I'm not going to hand them out to freeloaders.
My brother was sitting out by the pool at his apartment complex and I joined him for a smoke. An acquaintance of his, who I just met, wanted one of my 10th Anniversary Champagne Torpedos. I'm like, "WHAT?"

One example but has happened many times.

I broke down and gave a Romeo y Julieta Reserva real to one of his poolside buddies only to see him lay it down after 10 minutes and light a cigarette and leave.

[Dunkel]

If someone asks me for a cigar they get the cheapest cigar I have with me. If I offer them one it's always quality. Just sayin'

[tobii3]

Forget that I paid $7 to $10 for the stick

it kills me to see a good $8 to $10 stick get laid down.

That is why I don't gift cigars except to those who I know will enjoy them.

Think Wayne nailed it on the head here....

Or that the stick they laid down cost a certain amount?

I agree with the Major - I pass sticks out all the time - it isn't about the money - it's about the camaraderie and brotherhood.

[Whynot]

What about non chain smoking cigarette smokers that want to have a cigar? I can't tell if you hate moochers or cigarette smokers. If people are curious, I offer one up. I've never had anyone just ask me for a cigar.

[CasaDooley]

My brother was sitting out by the pool at his apartment complex and I joined him for a smoke. An acquaintance of his, who I just met, wanted one of my 10th Anniversary Champagne Torpedos. I'm like, "WHAT?"

One example but has happened many times.

I broke down and gave a Romeo y Julieta Reserva real to one of his poolside buddies only to see him lay it down after 10 minutes and light a cigarette and leave.

I think, in these situations , that a polite " I'm sorry, I didn't bring enough to share, but I will try to remember to bring extras next time" would suffice. Then, if you feel so inclined, bring some less expensive "newbie" cigars with you on your next outing. I think it's up to you how you want to respond to someone who asks for a cigar.
Me, I like to share, but I have never had someone I don't know just walk up to me and ask for a cigar, yet. :ss

[Mugen910]

I only gift what I smoke. There is a group of friend I hangout with that always wants to smoke cigars. They know about my collection. So they kind of expect it. They will smoke whatever I am not smoking. Finish or not, that is fine with me.
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So that's why you gave me that aged Nub at Shack!!! I see where I stand with you.

[Bageland2000]

Where are you meeting these chain-smoking mooches that are trying to bum cigars from you!? Haha my guess is that they assume that what you have couldn't cost much more than a swisher sweet. Or a Black and Mild! mmmmm

[jitzy]

If a cigarette smoker is asking for one to see if he likes it and lays it down after about 10 min's then maybe that just means he didn't like it. I always give someone one to try if they are willing.

[kaisersozei]

I broke down and gave a Romeo y Julieta Reserva real to one of his poolside buddies only to see him lay it down after 10 minutes and light a cigarette and leave.

I think the problem is the RyJ Reserva Real. I'm surprised he made it 10 minutes.






j/k :r

[Superbad]

I have considered buying a box of Berger & Argenti mooches. That way if someone asks for a cigar, if they ask what it is called, they get "a mooch". Maybe they get the message ;)

Actually I give freely of what I have. I was in the cigar bar at the Brown Palace hotel in Denver, the waitress asked what I was smoking as she hadn't seen any illusione before. Asked if she smoked cigars, she said yes and I gave her a Tatuaje stick and an Illusione Epernay. She was very thankful, and the next night told me she enjoyed the Epernay. I was sitting next to some random person, he was smoking a cheap stick, talking cigars and sports. I enjoyed the conversation and gave him my last BOTL small batch I had with me. He was over the moon, and enjoyed it thoroughly. I like turning people onto good cigars. I guess when you ask me for something, it takes away my chance to offer and be the gracious host. I like to be the gracious host. I personally would never ask people for a cigar, or other thing, unless they offered first.

[Bill86]

I only give out cigars to good friends who will finish them. After that I don't care if it costs me like $20 for 2 friends to smoke my cigars. If they finish them it's not a big deal. Any "strangers" pay, simple as that. I'll sell you one. I've had plenty of people offer to buy cigars from me, most won't even accept free ones. That's how you can easily differ the good people from the bad. Especially when no one can recognize the cigars I smoke (CCs/LE NC's). They know I pay a very decent price for my smokes.

[LasciviousXXX]

Hey hey hey!!! Don't discourage us cigarette chain-smokers!! LOL
Anyone that's HERF'd with me knows that I usually chase a good cigar w/ a Cohiba cigarette or two between cigars. :tu

In all seriousness though, there are so many differing fields of thought on gifting a cigar (be it a cheap or expensive stick) that my advice would be to do what feels right and natural to you. Feel free to say no, or try and educate the filthy cigarette smoking heathen ;) LOL

[dvickery]

I love giving cigars away. Whenever I am at a party or one if the few bars in my area that still allow cigar smoking, I always bring plenty of extra. You meet some of the nicest people through the simple gift of a cigar. I don't care if they're mooching or genuinely curious, the world today can be so callous and cynical that a smile from a stranger and some casual conversation helps to remind me that what we need most is connection to our fellow human beings.


MCS

first...the above quote...in my opinion...this is someone who "gets it" .thank you mcs.

please dont misinterpret what i am saying...i am not trying to put anybody down.just telling a story related to this thread.

believe it or not most visitors to cuba dont smoke cigars (but many are curious enough and due to environment and location will try their first cigar)...i was in cuba recently with friends...one other was a cigar smoker and eight were not...the other guy bought a box of guantanamera crystals to give out to novice cigar smokers.myself...i handed out the best i had(at the moment)to anyone who wanted to try their first cigar(doesnt matter if they asked for a smoke or i offered first).

yes i watched someone put down one of my beloved santo coronas with but an inch smoked...maybe i should have given him a milder cigar.

who was right and who was wrong??? neither of us i suppose its just two different kinds of people(it appears(from this thread) i am in the minority tho)...still i shudder at the thought of giving a guantanamera to someone as their first cuban cigar.

didnt add much to this thread.

thanks again for your post mcs.
derrek :hm

[LasciviousXXX]

i handed out the best i had...

Quoted for truth!!!


When this man speaks, I listen :tu

[jsd]

I don't understand how anybody can bring themselves to mooch a cigar. I think I'm fairly generous when it comes to sharing cigars with friends, but don't ask me for one. Plan ahead. Bring your own if you're going somewhere that you know cigars will be smoked or be prepared to go without.

[replicant_argent]

If you think so little of the people you hang out with, perhaps you should find some folks you wouldn't care if you gave a cigar to and they didn't care for it.

[Noodles]

So that's why you gave me that aged Nub at Shack!!! I see where I stand with you.

Only the best for you, Bao. ;)

[markem]

That's perfectly understandable. But that guy wasn't a bum, either. I've given away quite a few to strangers. Just not to strangers who ask for them just to ask.

There's a huge difference to gifting sticks to someone, stranger or not, who you think will enjoy it and someone who thinks they're entitled to it because they ask. It's not like you're shaking a 30 cent cigarette out of a pack.

Like many others, I'll give away almost any cigar in my case. I frequently pass around my case (new bling: Hali zero!) and tell people to dive in, whether I know them or not.

Life it too short not to create smiles whenever possible. Repeat moochers, I discourage, but others, who knows, maybe I made their year.

[Neens]

The only people I have had ask me for a cigar are friends or family in which case they get what I'm smoking or if I'm out their pick of what I have. I can't say someone I never met before has ever asked me for a stick. I have been asked if they could buy one off me. If that's the case I normaly just hand one over unless we have only been talking for less than 5-10 minutes. I don't think I would ever ask someone for a stick and not expect to pay for it. Even more so someone I just started talking to.

[pnoon]

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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[Noodles]

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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Well said, Peter.

[markem]

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.

See? That's why I don't give you sticks, Peter.

[pnoon]

See? That's why I don't give you sticks, Peter.
:hf
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[Brian D.]

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks. :r

[macsauce13]

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks. :r

Was this Strauss by chance?

[bobarian]

I really dont run into the same people as the OP. When I give a cigar, its because I want to share and what that person does once its given is up to them. I might feel bad if they threw it on the ground but I would never regret having given. Price of the cigar really has no bearing. I dont look at my cigars in terms of money, they are kind of like groceries, once the money is spent its all the same. :2

[Steve]

If someone asks me for a cigar they get the cheapest cigar I have with me. If I offer them one it's always quality. Just sayin'

I usually keep a couple of FdOs in the otterbox that stays in my truck. If it's someone that appriciates a good smoke (i.e. my old neighbor) I don't mind sharing a good smoke. If it's someone that is not a regular cigar smoker (i.e. my other neighbor), I have the FdO. That way I can attempt to educate and possibly expand thier horizons. Worst case, I get to see them turn green.

Again, just my :2:2. YMWPDG

[Goldie]

I carry Quintero Nacionales for the folks that would like to try a smoke, or Devil's Weed Coronas. I don't mind sharing, I just don't care to give away my good cigars to people that I don't know (this isn't always the case). If a long time friend or good friend wants to try a smoke, I don't mind giving them something more on the high end.


New Year's Eve this year, I took cigars for everyone. The newbies got Devil's Weed Coronas. My friend, his Dad, and I got T52 Robustos. It is what it is, and there were no hard feelings that other people didn't get a T52, and no hard feelings that someone puffed twice on a nice cigar and threw it away.

[Steve]

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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A wise man you are...:tu:tu

[benedic08]

Im also a chain cigarette smoker but that doesn't mean i cant enjoy a cigar. I smoke about 2 packs of cigarettes a day plus a cigar or 2 sometimes more in between. And i give cigars to those who want to try it. Even if i just met someone and they're curious about a cigar i'll give them one so that maybe i can lure them down the slippery slope! XD

Everytime i go somewhere and i have my traveldor with me i expect that my traveldor will be empty by the time i go home from smoking and giving people sticks.

[Gophernut]

Reading all of the posts in this thread, I think we have gotten away from what Clayton was trying to accomplish. His question seemed to me to be what to do with folks you don't know well, but are with them due to an aquaintance. In this case, I think it's perfectly okay to not want to part with a 7-10 dollar stick. I do keep good cheap smokes around for someone who doesn't smoke much. If I know you enjoy cigars, you can pick it out of my humi. If I don't know, I'll do it. Most of the time the newbie doesn't know what they want and will just be thankful for the reccomendation.
If I am in a social setting where there may be the opportunity to smoke cigars, I always bring along a couple of cigars that I would NOW consider yard-gars, but when I first started smoking, they were in heavy rotation. I think most people who just want to try something, probably wont enjoy what I am into now anyways. I liked milder cigars when I started, now into the more full flavored varieties.
So it's more about being prepared for me when I go out somewhere. If I know I'll be with family/friends who enjoy cigars, I will bring a couple along to share that I think they'll like, and a couple of my former favs that won't bother me to see floating in a half a glass of beer. Bothers me more about the beer.

[Thammy]

For me it depends on who. If they are some random then they pay, unless I have been chatting to them for awhile after meeting and think I can make their day. Other then that I usually give some to fellow cigar friends (and pipe tobacco) for something to bond over and talk about, or let some non smoker friends give it a try(though I restrict it to mild ones for the first time). Also if I stroll down whyte ave and decide to stop at my local tobacconist with a friend, smoker or not I will offer to buy them a cigar for their first time. If I am with a friend and they are sitting outside with me for 2 hours, I would rather them enjoy it as well and maybe nab them into the hobby!

I don't like Cigar snobbery though. One time I simply asked a man outside a concert what kind of cigar he was smoking for I did not recognize the band and wanted to make conversation cause I was alone.. He just shook his head, as if assuming I wanted to mooch it. ( which was not the case!)

Btw, the term moochadore made me LOL in Theology class.

[elderboy02]

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks. :r

You must have been at Straus ;)

[LasciviousXXX]

This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks. :r

Perhaps we would have..... or a dollar. Either way, it does seem that this thread has shown the differences in approach that everyone has.

[Kreth]

I can honestly say that I've never had anyone try to mooch a cigar from me (except Ferdie). :r
Having said that, cigar smoking is a social activity. Cigars are best appreciated with good company. :ss
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[Zeuceone]

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks. :r

At my local B&M lounge, we had a homeless man come by and sit outside to smoke a nub left in an ashtray. The owner didn't mind as long as he didn't bother anyone. Well a few minutes pass by and the cops show up to talk to him. We later find out that he was next door at the starbucks where one of the employees told him to leave, but he refused. He yelled at the employee and ended up leaving. The reason the wanted him out was due to him being butt naked in the bathroom showering.

[macsauce13]

You must have been at Straus ;)

Was this Strauss by chance?

:r

[smokinpeace]

The reason the wanted him out was due to him being butt naked in the bathroom showering.

Is that wrong? Cause if I knew that kind of thing was frowned upon when I started here...

[Zeuceone]

Is that wrong? Cause if I knew that kind of thing was frowned upon when I started here...

Lol well try locking the door when you do it.

[CigarNut]

Like many others, I'll give away almost any cigar in my case. I frequently pass around my case (new bling: Hali zero!) and tell people to dive in, whether I know them or not.

Life it too short not to create smiles whenever possible. Repeat moochers, I discourage, but others, who knows, maybe I made their year.As a repeat moocher wannabe I can attest to this :)

Actually, Mark is quite generous and has developed a number of friendships by doing this.

[thebayratt]

There is a group of us guys that every Thursday we get together for cigars and spirits. There is one guy (who has a nice paying job) who comes 90% of the time empty handed.
He passes up 5 B&Ms on his way over and always "forgets to grab a cigar" on his way over. He has a humidor with some sticks in it but always relies on others to furnish him cigars...
I don't mind people making a drink with my bottle, its a community bottle; there for all to enjoy. But my smokes are my smokes!
His pallet is so out of whack, he couldn't tell the difference between a VSG and a Flor de Oliva. I've given him a few decent cigars, but when it became a habit, I cut him off. He asked to see what I brought last time and grabbed a 64 Pardon and sad "can I have this" I said "Sure, for $25!" he sat it back in the traveldor.

I got "gifted" a motherload of CI's $20 bundle cigars a while back. I'm talking 50+ of dogrockets!! I gave him most of them and he won't even bring them to the herf and he said he likes them.....

I don't mind helping a brother out who has been down on his luck anytime. I'll give them a cigar I would smoke. But a cigar-BUM who never brings anything and is up on his luck......... gets nothing!

I've pulled my .357 out on bums in town begging money from me..... hahaaa

[jsnake]

I always carry a few extra mild cigars I won't ever smoke just in case someone wants to join me. For a good friend I will offer something better. I enjoy sharing cigars with people.

[Eli18]

I love giving cigars away. Whenever I am at a party or one if the few bars in my area that still allow cigar smoking, I always bring plenty of extra. You meet some of the nicest people through the simple gift of a cigar. I don't care if they're mooching or genuinely curious, the world today can be so callous and cynical that a smile from a stranger and some casual conversation helps to remind me that what we need most is connection to our fellow human beings.


MCS
thats really cool cigar smokers are very generous people in deed i like to give them away when i got some extras

[Cornrow_Wallis]

If I'm smoking and someone wants a cigar, they can have whatever I've got. If we are at my place and they didn't know we were going to be smoking, that's fine, I'll point them at the cooler and let 'em have at it.

What pisses me off is when someone knows ahead of time that there is gonna be cigar smoking and still doesn't bring anything. At that point they can buy one or go without.

[South Shield]

My father once asked me for a cigar, hit him in the face with a cast iron skillet.

[jsd]

There is a group of us guys that every Thursday we get together for cigars and spirits. There is one guy (who has a nice paying job) who comes 90% of the time empty handed.
He passes up 5 B&Ms on his way over and always "forgets to grab a cigar" on his way over. He has a humidor with some sticks in it but always relies on others to furnish him cigars...
I don't mind people making a drink with my bottle, its a community bottle; there for all to enjoy. But my smokes are my smokes!
His pallet is so out of whack, he couldn't tell the difference between a VSG and a Flor de Oliva. I've given him a few decent cigars, but when it became a habit, I cut him off. He asked to see what I brought last time and grabbed a 64 Pardon and sad "can I have this" I said "Sure, for $25!" he sat it back in the traveldor.

Wow, if you lived in CA I'd think we were talking about the same guy.

A little while back a group of us met at the local cigar shop before poker night. This particular guy bought a few cigars, had them in his car at the poker house, and still asked a few of us for cigars. Unbelievable.

I enjoy sharing good cigars with good friends. I enjoy giving cigars to friends so they can share in the enjoyment. I just don't like being asked for a cigar.

[bobarian]

My father once asked me for a cigar, hit him in the face with a cast iron skillet.

Now I dont feel bad about running over that guy in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work.

[South Shield]

Now I dont feel bad about running over that guy in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work.

I'm sure that bastard wanted a cigar as well, I would of backed over him again just to make sure he got my point.

[DocLogic77]

Giving a cigar to someone is one of the great pleasures of this hobby...new to cigars or those with a trained palate. Cigar smoking is a social experience and should be shared. For those who are new to the hobby I am more selective with what I give but it's based on what I think a new smoker might like. If someone has never tried a cigar handing them a PL panatela might be a great first step. Terrific cigar, very reasonable and should give the guy a reasonable idea of what a good cigar tastes like. It's also smaller and if they put it out...no biggie. If they like it...then I am tempted to hand them a few to get em started. Giving them a few cigars, and some knowledge can be a great thing. You never know when you have found a like minded soul to enjoy a cigar with in the future.

[bobarian]

I'm sure that bastard wanted a cigar as well, I would of backed over him again just to make sure he got my point.

I did throw a rock at the Veteran in a wheelchair with a sign as I was leaving! :D

[South Shield]

I did throw a rock at the Veteran in a wheelchair with a sign as I was leaving! :D

GOOD! I bet his sign said "Homeless Vet! Need Cigar!"

[bobarian]

GOOD! I bet his sign said "Homeless Vet! Need Cigar!"

:tu I'm pretty sure it did! Tomorrow I think I'll go under the bridge by the river and smoke a cigar and sing, "Nah, na, na, na"

[South Shield]

:tu I'm pretty sure it did! Tomorrow I think I'll go under the bridge by the river and smoke a cigar and sing, "Nah, na, na, na"

Cool, I'll join you after I leave the VA where I will be throwing Opus X's in the wood chipper just to see "Johnny no arms" cry.

[bobarian]

Cool, I'll join you after I leave the VA where I will be throwing Opus X's in the wood chipper just to see "Johnny no arms" cry.

I'm pretty sure that old guy greeting people at WalMart was going to ask for a cigar too! We can stop on the way home and pull a knife on him and show him who's boss!

[South Shield]

I'm pretty sure that old guy greeting people at WalMart was going to ask for a cigar too! We can stop on the way home and pull a knife on him and show him who's boss!

oooh, can't. Court order says I have to stay away 300' away from any Walmart entry.

[bobarian]

oooh, can't. Court order says I have to stay away 300' away from any Walmart entry.

:lr:lr:lr

[Powers]

I did throw a rock at the Veteran in a wheelchair with a sign as I was leaving! :D

GOOD! I bet his sign said "Homeless Vet! Need Cigar!"

:tu I'm pretty sure it did! Tomorrow I think I'll go under the bridge by the river and smoke a cigar and sing, "Nah, na, na, na"

Cool, I'll join you after I leave the VA where I will be throwing Opus X's in the wood chipper just to see "Johnny no arms" cry.

:r this was a highly amusing banter :r

[Miket156]

Back OT for another circumstance. A guy I know that belongs to the same private club I belong too is a cigar smoker. (There's only 4 or 5 of us that smoke cigars in this club) We were talking cigar shop at the bar one night and he told me that what I was smoking was too expensive for his "daily" smokes. He bought bundles from CI and they cost him about 2.50 each. I asked him if he would bring an extra one with him the following weekend when I would be there, I would like to try one to see if they would be a less expensive alternative to what I smoke. I told him that I WOULD pay him for it.

The next weekend he came in and had the extra cigar with him and gave it to me. I paid him for it on the spot. He tried to refuse the $$ but I know he's a retired person and can't afford to give cigars away. Anyway, I ASKED for it and I don't want a hand-out. I told him there was no way I would take it for FREE. So he graciously accepted. If I am asking someone for a cigar, I am going to pay for it or I won't ask.

I came equipped with my normal 3 cigar supply, my cutter, and 2 butane lighters as usual. I was not depending on him or anyone to supply me with smokes. I bring my own when I go to the club on weekends.

The cigars he buys weren't bad at all, for the price. I had never tried anything in bundle and I wanted to get a handle on this method of buying cigars. I'm still looking around for the right deal, I don't want to buy a bundle that is dried out and I don't want to smoke.


Cheers,


Mike

[icehog3]

I love giving cigars away. Whenever I am at a party or one if the few bars in my area that still allow cigar smoking, I always bring plenty of extra. You meet some of the nicest people through the simple gift of a cigar. I don't care if they're mooching or genuinely curious, the world today can be so callous and cynical that a smile from a stranger and some casual conversation helps to remind me that what we need most is connection to our fellow human beings.


MCS

:)

[Ahbroody]

I am constantly giving out cigars to coworkers and friends.
Of course no one ever asks for them. I guess it would be different if the same guys kept coming up asking.

I have given and recieved plenty of cigars. Its just how the hobby works.

[chand]

oooh, can't. Court order says I have to stay away 300' away from any Walmart entry.

Sounds like the judge owed you a favor!:D

[Coach Deg]

A friend( a lawyer) had out on the bar OpusX xxx at his wedding. Me and another guy were crying over all these idiots that took the cigars didn't know how to cut them, took a few puffs and left them in the ashtray to die!!!

[landhoney]

oooh, can't. Court order says I have to stay away 300' away from any Walmart entry.

:lr:lr

this was a highly amusing banter

:tpd::lr One of the better exchanges I've read, made me laugh, thanks guys. :tu

[hscmit]

A friend( a lawyer) had out on the bar OpusX xxx at his wedding. Me and another guy were crying over all these idiots that took the cigars didn't know how to cut them, took a few puffs and left them in the ashtray to die!!!

that is a sad story
I would hate to see it in person

[pnoon]

I've pulled my .357 out on bums in town begging money from me..... hahaaa
That's hilarious. :rolleyes:

Most people would just say "Sorry. No." and move on.
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[pektel]

I honestly give away/gift/bomb more cigars than I smoke. But almost all of those times have been unsolicited. The only person who's ever asked for a stick from me has been my brother. If he's going out fishing with his buddies or something. Then he gets his pick from my humi.

[pektel]

I carry Quintero Nacionales for the folks that would like to try a smoke, or Devil's Weed Coronas. I don't mind sharing, I just don't care to give away my good cigars to people that I don't know (this isn't always the case).



Don't go bad mouthing my beloved quintero CC's. :r

I actually really like quintero nacionales cc's. Great everyday smoke. Of course, ymmv. :)

[chand]

Maybe I share too much with random people but I never really think about it. It's just a stick, there'll be more. :sh

[rizzle]

I'm really generous except for with this one friend of mine. I'll give whatever to whoever, typically, except for this one guy. At least not any more. Over the last however many years he has given me exactly one cigar on one occasion. I have given him countless. It's almost as if he has just come to expect me to furnish him with a smoke for the night whenever he happens to be around. So, I'll still give him one with no reservation, but not one from the top shelf, if you know what I mean. There's a difference in asking to enjoy a cigar from someone and being a mooch, and I treat those situations accordingly.
:2

[poker]

Okay, so I'm a nice guy, at least most of the time. But, often, more times than not, I carry these great sticks with me to enjoy when a not so educated person wants to 'try' one of my sticks. But, you don't 'try' a stick. You 'try' a cigarette. If the stun sucks, you put it out and that's it. Period. But a cigar is different. Palettes are different and flavors often change while smoking a cigar. These ignoramuses think they should try a stick on my investment. Forget that I paid $7 to $10 for the stick, more than they paid for their worthless pack of cigarettes. For some reason, they think I owe them a shot at one of my expensive sticks and they've never smoked a cigar before. I have no problem sharing great smokes with someone who has developed a taste for a fine cigar. But, if someone wants to try a cigar, especially a first time cigar smoker, they need to try it on their own dime.

Free loaders.

Rant over.

I cant say I agree with you as others have pointed out. I dunno. Maybe you should not bring cigars with you wherever that you dont plan to smoke yourself if it bothers you that much.

I personally have given away literally hundreds and hundreds of cigars over the last 20 years, many of which are rare/vintage havanas to friends, family, and to many folks I never met before or met for the first time. Sometimes the cigar I give someone is my last of that particular cigar I may ever see again.

Why? Probably because theres a certain magic that can happen when you give someone something that they have never tried or only dreamed about.
Im not saying you should be more like me or anything like that. What I am saying is that maybe you might need some work in the tolerance of others department. There was a first time for everybody, including everyone here. This includes me (btw: I'm also an ignoramus cigarette smoker).

[LasciviousXXX]

This man speaks the truth!

The very first time Kelly and I ever met in person he handed me a very rare cigar that I had never tried. Both the gesture and the cigar made a lasting impression that I remember to this day. Generosity, even to those you've never met or might never meet again, can sometimes be the greatest gift.

[Whipper Snapper]

If it were not for folks who gave generously, I doubt I'd be on these boards today. I started posting on cigar boards over 7 years ago. I was interested in the hobby, but it was the generosity of some fellows (one who posts here in fact) that not only plunged me into the hobby, but gave me more of a reason to be here than to just talk about cigars.

I've had the opportunity to try cigars that I didn't even know existed 7 years ago, thanks to people who cared enough to give a noob a shot.

Now, I just so happen to know a little bit about the cigar world when I used to know nothing, and I don't think that would have been possible had generous people not shared their cigars/knowledge with me.

Nobody likes a mooch. But, sometimes moochers are really just people who don't know where to start. It's full circle really. Give a newbie some cigars to try, and 10 years down the road, he might just be giving you that dunhill you never dreamed of owning.

What a wonderful place we have here at the asylum.

[markem]

I'm sure that most, if not all, of us know or know about some one person who seems to freeload off other people's stashes. I think that is the type of person the OP was posting about, although it is clear that others in this thread are painting a wider brush.

I see no reason to start a thread over that one aberration of a person. Tell the person 'no' and move on with your life. Complaining about the one person just makes you miserable. Let it go and move on. Don't worry about their behavior if it isn't directed at you - you can't play mother hen to the entire world.

Let's let this thing die and move on to other topics, like who has received the most touching stick from a friend or stranger and why was it so. I doubt that most of the stories would include rare sticks, but who knows. Many here know about the time I gave a rather run of the mill stick to someone who was homeless and it reminded him of better days and took away the pain of his circumstances for a while, or so he told me. Let's focus on the good in both us and those around us, m'kay?

[OLS]

I started posting on cigar boards over 7 years ago..You might have been the first mooching noob, and I mean that in the most respectful way.
I can remember when you popped in and jumped in with both feet. Even though the other place
was not as completely, overwhelmingly generous as THIS place is, I think you had no idea that people
were going to hit you the way they did. You were just curious and broke, as I recall. I did not send
anything to you, but I remember it well. Your avatar made me chuckle everytime I saw it.
I think it all started with a couple "I never had one of those." 'es. Talk about the birthplace of the bomb.

I may be mis-remembering the facts, but I remember the time and place and the shavetail young whipper-
snapper. I think people could diffrentiate you from a garden-variety mooch, so you were OK.

[OLS]

It's almost as if he has just come to expect me to furnish him with a smoke for the night whenever he happens to be around.:2I have a guy like that at work. He DID buy a few old humidors from me, and as long as he had room,
he'd buy a box of sale cigars off me, but one day he just shut off the tap. No money, just moochy looks
everytime I'd get an order in. So the Habano faucet got turned off and the JR faucet got turned on.
The best way to get that kind of person is just to completely ignore the fact that they probably want
a cigar, SHOW em your latest haul and put them in a drawer for later. They will think, "Man, what happened??
I should be getting a few of those and I am not." I wonder what's going on? It doesn't cure a mooch, but it
trains them down a bit with some good old intermittent reinforcement.

[massphatness]

I personally have given away literally hundreds and hundreds of cigars over the last 20 years, many of which are rare/vintage havanas to friends, family, and to many folks I never met before or met for the first time. Sometimes the cigar I give someone is my last of that particular cigar I may ever see again.

Having received a Cohiba Reserva Esplendidos from this man when I was just getting my feet wet on Club Stogie, I can tell you he speaks the truth. It was a phenomenal example of what this brotherhood is about and one that I have tried to emulate, abeit poorly, over the years.

[wayner123]

I have a guy like that at work. He DID buy a few old humidors from me, and as long as he had room,
he'd buy a box of sale cigars off me, but one day he just shut off the tap. No money, just moochy looks
everytime I'd get an order in. So the Habano faucet got turned off and the JR faucet got turned on.
The best way to get that kind of person is just to completely ignore the fact that they probably want
a cigar, SHOW em your latest haul and put them in a drawer for later. They will think, "Man, what happened??
I should be getting a few of those and I am not." I wonder what's going on? It doesn't cure a mooch, but it
trains them down a bit with some good old intermittent reinforcement.

LOL, what does a "moochy look" look like?

[icehog3]

LOL, what does a "moochy look" look like?

Like PuroBrat. ;)

[tobii3]

Like PuroBrat. ;)

Holy sh*t....haven't heard that name in a while...

I was thinking more along the lines of "GameLover"....:r

[Whipper Snapper]

You might have been the first mooching noob, and I mean that in the most respectful way.
I can remember when you popped in and jumped in with both feet. Even though the other place
was not as completely, overwhelmingly generous as THIS place is, I think you had no idea that people
were going to hit you the way they did. You were just curious and broke, as I recall. I did not send
anything to you, but I remember it well. Your avatar made me chuckle everytime I saw it.
I think it all started with a couple "I never had one of those." 'es. Talk about the birthplace of the bomb.

I may be mis-remembering the facts, but I remember the time and place and the shavetail young whipper-
snapper. I think people could diffrentiate you from a garden-variety mooch, so you were OK.


After reading all of this, I hope the term "mooching-noob" isn't synonymous with "mooch" or "purobrat". Thankfully, I had the opportunity to bomb some of the farts responsible for a majority of the mayhem (Cough *Smitty/Paulmac* cough). One things for certain- I had absolutely NO IDEA I'd get pummeled the way I did back at the other place.

Motheman, Icehog, Smitty, Frank and Anita (Floydp), IHT (now curly cut) and Coppertop. I'm sure there were others whom I've forgotten, and for that I'm sorry. They sure did beat the snot out of me though.

I think the worst of it all was the constant torment I received from Paulmac and Smitty via aim/pm's. The two of them insisted that there would be a time where impending doom would rain down upon my head. Apparently they had arranged some mass bombing that would've included half the forum or something. Thankfully, that never took place. I don't deserve a carpet bombing.

Bottom line is, I hope a few years down the road, I'm able to return the favor to someone as ignorant as I was.

[South Shield]

Wow, there is some very generous Brothers of the Leaf on this forum and to that I say, YOU ARE MOOCH ENABLERS! Stop it! The less you give the more you have.

Now will someone go to Walmart for me and pick up some Kitty Litter, I have to keep my humidor going until my sticks get to 3 years old and I have to destroy them in front of the VA.

[replicant_argent]

Everypipedotcom

[DivineRight]

I think people are misinterpreting the difference between a "mooch" and a someone who is new to the cigar scene. Over the years, I have met a lot of friends of friends who are interested in cigars and almost all of them never have their own cigars. I have no problem gifting them with one of my tasty habanos but I always try to judge what a good cigar for them would be depending on their experiences.

I've found that giving someone a strong cigar like a Partagas SD4 or one of my Bolivar PC's always seems to wrong move. Over the years, I have found certain cigars to be great introductory cigars. These are the ones that I tend to give to others to smoke but they are also cigars that I enjoy myself. There is nothing more satisfying than seeing someone discover the enjoyment of a cigar before your eyes.

I also have a collection of cigars that I reserve for people who in my opinion have no inclination to ever become a cigar lover, so basically "posers". Over time, through box passes and friends returning from vacations, I've been gifted with fakes and strange cigars (some smelling like aftershave, others just looking too rough to smoke). I've handed these cigars over and giggled while doing it. I know its messed up, my dark humor sometimes takes over but in my defense I reserve these only for the true mooches. In my circle of friends, we've kicked out actual mooches-those who are cheap in every aspect of the definition and take advantage of the generosity of the group. They are the ones who you go out to dinner with and they seem to always forget their wallet or not have any cash on them that day. They are the same people who go to a BBQ's empty handed when everyone else brought something, they show up to parties and drink everyone else's booze because they didn't have time to pick something up, they are the ones who show up to cigar meets empty handed every time and they are typically the ones who talk the big talk with nothing to show for it. I think we can all agree that nobody wants to be around people like this, let alone gift them with our precious cigars.

[glassjapan]

It's not the fact that someone is an experienced smoker. And it's not the fact that they might finish the cigar or only smoke an inch. You give because you want to give. You give the best you have, because you like to give. The rest is just score keeping...

[dvickery]

There is nothing more satisfying than seeing someone discover the enjoyment of a cigar before your eyes.

some smelling like aftershave, others just looking too rough to smoke



chap

first...so nice to see you here...5 posts in a year and i know you have lots more you could add to this forum. too much wisdom and cigar knowledge to be so unspoken about it all.

paragraph#1...logan smoking his first cigar...he enjoyed but maybe too many mojitos to remember.it was a glassy eyed look of satisfaction tho.

paragraph#2...i remember the "aftershave" tainted cigars...still chuckle when i think of them...glad we traded the guy for a sack of pucks to vancouver.

yes i watched someone put down one of my beloved santo coronas with but an inch smoked...maybe i should have given him a milder cigar.


yes that was logan too...it appears chap gave him the better cigar :) as he smoked all of it.

sorry if this post makes little sense to anyone else.
derrek :hm

[Noodles]

A friend( a lawyer) had out on the bar OpusX xxx at his wedding. Me and another guy were crying over all these idiots that took the cigars didn't know how to cut them, took a few puffs and left them in the ashtray to die!!!

They are idiots for basically not sharing the same hobby as you do?

[hscmit]

They are idiots for basically not sharing the same hobby as you do?

no I would assume that he (the op) lamented the waste of dozens of cigars that others would have enjoyed

[Noodles]

no I would assume that he (the op) lamented the waste of dozens of cigars that others would have enjoyed

That's what exactly I am referring to. He called them idiots for not understanding the proper etiquette of cigar smoking i.e. not knowing how to cut a cigar and you have to finish a cigar.

[hscmit]

waste not a lack of passion

[cmitch]

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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It is really quite amazing how many different directions and opinions came from this rant. Hmm. I don't think I was attaching strings to anything. My rant was about people I didn't know who thinks they can bum a cigar like they bum a cigarette. That's all.

[cmitch]

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks. :r
Oh, so you've met that kind, too.:tu

[cmitch]

Reading all of the posts in this thread, I think we have gotten away from what Clayton was trying to accomplish. His question seemed to me to be what to do with folks you don't know well, but are with them due to an aquaintance. In this case, I think it's perfectly okay to not want to part with a 7-10 dollar stick. I do keep good cheap smokes around for someone who doesn't smoke much. If I know you enjoy cigars, you can pick it out of my humi. If I don't know, I'll do it. Most of the time the newbie doesn't know what they want and will just be thankful for the reccomendation.
If I am in a social setting where there may be the opportunity to smoke cigars, I always bring along a couple of cigars that I would NOW consider yard-gars, but when I first started smoking, they were in heavy rotation. I think most people who just want to try something, probably wont enjoy what I am into now anyways. I liked milder cigars when I started, now into the more full flavored varieties.
So it's more about being prepared for me when I go out somewhere. If I know I'll be with family/friends who enjoy cigars, I will bring a couple along to share that I think they'll like, and a couple of my former favs that won't bother me to see floating in a half a glass of beer. Bothers me more about the beer.
Thank you! You deserve an AAA+++ for getting what, surprisingly, so many others have missed.:tu:tu

For me it depends on who. If they are some random then they pay, unless I have been chatting to them for awhile after meeting and think I can make their day. Other then that I usually give some to fellow cigar friends (and pipe tobacco) for something to bond over and talk about, or let some non smoker friends give it a try(though I restrict it to mild ones for the first time). Also if I stroll down whyte ave and decide to stop at my local tobacconist with a friend, smoker or not I will offer to buy them a cigar for their first time. If I am with a friend and they are sitting outside with me for 2 hours, I would rather them enjoy it as well and maybe nab them into the hobby!

I don't like Cigar snobbery though. One time I simply asked a man outside a concert what kind of cigar he was smoking for I did not recognize the band and wanted to make conversation cause I was alone.. He just shook his head, as if assuming I wanted to mooch it. ( which was not the case!)

Btw, the term moochadore made me LOL in Theology class
My friends at the B&M would tell you I am more generous than most with my sticks. I always have extras to pass to those who appreciate. But as I pointed out, these aren't cigarettes and I think that's where the misunderstanding takes place.

[cmitch]

I think people are misinterpreting the difference between a "mooch" and a someone who is new to the cigar scene. Over the years, I have met a lot of friends of friends who are interested in cigars and almost all of them never have their own cigars. I have no problem gifting them with one of my tasty habanos but I always try to judge what a good cigar for them would be depending on their experiences.

I've found that giving someone a strong cigar like a Partagas SD4 or one of my Bolivar PC's always seems to wrong move. Over the years, I have found certain cigars to be great introductory cigars. These are the ones that I tend to give to others to smoke but they are also cigars that I enjoy myself. There is nothing more satisfying than seeing someone discover the enjoyment of a cigar before your eyes.

I also have a collection of cigars that I reserve for people who in my opinion have no inclination to ever become a cigar lover, so basically "posers". Over time, through box passes and friends returning from vacations, I've been gifted with fakes and strange cigars (some smelling like aftershave, others just looking too rough to smoke). I've handed these cigars over and giggled while doing it. I know its messed up, my dark humor sometimes takes over but in my defense I reserve these only for the true mooches. In my circle of friends, we've kicked out actual mooches-those who are cheap in every aspect of the definition and take advantage of the generosity of the group. They are the ones who you go out to dinner with and they seem to always forget their wallet or not have any cash on them that day. They are the same people who go to a BBQ's empty handed when everyone else brought something, they show up to parties and drink everyone else's booze because they didn't have time to pick something up, they are the ones who show up to cigar meets empty handed every time and they are typically the ones who talk the big talk with nothing to show for it. I think we can all agree that nobody wants to be around people like this, let alone gift them with our precious cigars.

There ya go. Unfortunately, we sometimes end up around moochers and it's not by choice. I've gleaned some good ideas from these posts as well, to combat moochery in the future.

[DocLogic77]

This man speaks the truth!

The very first time Kelly and I ever met in person he handed me a very rare cigar that I had never tried. Both the gesture and the cigar made a lasting impression that I remember to this day. Generosity, even to those you've never met or might never meet again, can sometimes be the greatest gift.


Agreed. I remember the generosity of a few gentlemen, specifically Klugs when I first entered into this wonderful hobby. I knew nothing, had little to smoke, and little to nothing to offer. It was those generous and social experiences with experienced and giving BOTLs that spurred my love for cigars.

[tobii3]

Freud said it best.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[pnoon]

It is really quite amazing how many different directions and opinions came from this rant. Hmm. I don't think I was attaching strings to anything. My rant was about people I didn't know who thinks they can bum a cigar like they bum a cigarette. That's all.
Interesting that you would take my post so personally. If you re-read the thread you'll find the conversation may have drifted somewhat from what you inteded to discuss. Also, you will see that my post was not a direct reply to what you stated at the start. My post (and my point) stands on its own.

On behalf of all those who strayed from what you wanted to discuss, we are sorry.
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[wayner123]

It is really quite amazing how many different directions and opinions came from this rant. Hmm. I don't think I was attaching strings to anything. My rant was about people I didn't know who thinks they can bum a cigar like they bum a cigarette. That's all.

It did drift some but such is the forum posting world. However the first reply:

Or just carry around really good cheap cigars.

Should have covered it all.

[shilala]

I didn't read all this, but wanted to offer a workaround.
First off, I consider giving away cigars about 90% of the fun, so far as this hobby goes. When I go somewhere where I'll be smoking with others, I take tons of cigars along, so I can share.
I do agree that it can get real expensive sharing $10-$20 sticks with folks who are only likely to take a couple puffs. I make sense of that by keeping plenty of really good $3-$4 sticks. That way if I'm around a campfire with a lot of folks who have never smoked, but just want to "try" a cigar, it's not a problem.
I suppose the long and short of it is that my humidor is, and always has been wide open to anyone at any time. I don't have any cigars that I wouldn't give up in a second. Don't care what they are. If that cigar is gonna put that big dumb grin on a brother's face, that has far more value to me than the price of any cigar.

One other thing that may or may not have been mentioned is that average folks do not know that cigars cost lots of money. They assume they're a buck or something, and by asking, they're not putting me out or breaking my bank.
If I get caught at that campfire with nothing but expensive cigars, that's what they're gonna get. There's a lot of reasons for that, one big one being that no matter how many expensive cigars I give away, I'll never pay back the generosity that's been extended to me by my botl's.

[pektel]

I didn't read all this, but wanted to offer a workaround.
First off, I consider giving away cigars about 90% of the fun, so far as this hobby goes. When I go somewhere where I'll be smoking with others, I take tons of cigars along, so I can share.
I do agree that it can get real expensive sharing $10-$20 sticks with folks who are only likely to take a couple puffs. I make sense of that by keeping plenty of really good $3-$4 sticks. That way if I'm around a campfire with a lot of folks who have never smoked, but just want to "try" a cigar, it's not a problem.
I suppose the long and short of it is that my humidor is, and always has been wide open to anyone at any time. I don't have any cigars that I wouldn't give up in a second. Don't care what they are. If that cigar is gonna put that big dumb grin on a brother's face, that has far more value to me than the price of any cigar.

One other thing that may or may not have been mentioned is that average folks do not know that cigars cost lots of money. They assume they're a buck or something, and by asking, they're not putting me out or breaking my bank.
If I get caught at that campfire with nothing but expensive cigars, that's what they're gonna get. There's a lot of reasons for that, one big one being that no matter how many expensive cigars I give away, I'll never pay back the generosity that's been extended to me by my botl's.

Well said :tu

[HK3-]

I didn't read all this, but wanted to offer a workaround.
First off, I consider giving away cigars about 90% of the fun, so far as this hobby goes. When I go somewhere where I'll be smoking with others, I take tons of cigars along, so I can share.
I do agree that it can get real expensive sharing $10-$20 sticks with folks who are only likely to take a couple puffs. I make sense of that by keeping plenty of really good $3-$4 sticks. That way if I'm around a campfire with a lot of folks who have never smoked, but just want to "try" a cigar, it's not a problem.
I suppose the long and short of it is that my humidor is, and always has been wide open to anyone at any time. I don't have any cigars that I wouldn't give up in a second. Don't care what they are. If that cigar is gonna put that big dumb grin on a brother's face, that has far more value to me than the price of any cigar.


One other thing that may or may not have been mentioned is that average folks do not know that cigars cost lots of money. They assume they're a buck or something, and by asking, they're not putting me out or breaking my bank.
If I get caught at that campfire with nothing but expensive cigars, that's what they're gonna get. There's a lot of reasons for that, one big one being that no matter how many expensive cigars I give away, I'll never pay back the generosity that's been extended to me by my botl's.

Well said Scott, well said.

[357]

Simple options from good suggestions:

1. Don't give cigars to folks you don't think will appreciate the gesture.

2. Keep inexpensive (yet decent) cigars with you for such occasions.

I don't think anyone would object to you doing either. I think what people are trying to convey is that giving is often the best part of the cigar experience. Obviously not every cigar you give will be appreciated or even liked. Such is life. Don't take it personally. I know there is monetary loss, but when you give a cigar to someone who lights up with joy, you'll realize the previous losses were worth it.

Edited to say: I agree with Scott too!

[pnoon]

It's really quite simple.
Carry a variety of cigars that you don't mind parting with - no matter who they go to.

-or-

Just say no.
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[mpd340]

Just say no.
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Wasn't that in a public service announcement.:D

[Coach Deg]

That's what exactly I am referring to. He called them idiots for not understanding the proper etiquette of cigar smoking i.e. not knowing how to cut a cigar and you have to finish a cigar.

It was the fact that these people didn't even smoke and were just taking them because they were there. If your a vegetarian and there is a filet sitting on the bar do you take a bite and put it down, just cause its there.

[mscales]

I give a lot of cigars away, a couple a week or so. But, if I have a really nice expensive cigar I would ask for hte cost if someone wanted to "try a stick". Now don't get me wrong, I don't have crap cigars and all are very nice ones but if I was paying $9 +/- it would have to be a good friend I want to spend time with to just hand over a cigar just to try.

[sobranie10]

I love giving cigars away. Whenever I am at a party or one if the few bars in my area that still allow cigar smoking, I always bring plenty of extra. You meet some of the nicest people through the simple gift of a cigar. I don't care if they're mooching or genuinely curious, the world today can be so callous and cynical that a smile from a stranger and some casual conversation helps to remind me that what we need most is connection to our fellow human beings.


MCS

I think half the fun of smoking cigars is sharing cigars with others weather they enjoy cigars or not. Never know who you might meet, to me it’s not whether they look the part or know what they are doing to me it’s who I am.

[DivineRight]

Freud said it best.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I'm not a big Freud fan, I prefer to look at cigars in this manner:

"A good cigar is as great a comfort to a man as a good cry to a woman."

Bulwer-Lytton, E. G.

[cmitch]

Interesting that you would take my post so personally. If you re-read the thread you'll find the conversation may have drifted somewhat from what you inteded to discuss. Also, you will see that my post was not a direct reply to what you stated at the start. My post (and my point) stands on its own.

On behalf of all those who strayed from what you wanted to discuss, we are sorry.
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Apparently I misunderstood your intent. But I didn't take it 'personally'. I see what you were driving at.

I think this thread has opened up a great discussion and it has given me many ideas on how to counter this nicely.

[poker]

If the person is in fact a "mooch" as some have eluded to, then just a simple "no" will do.

[Kreth]

If the person is in fact a "mooch" as some have eluded to, then just a simple "no" will do.
I do not think that word means what you think it means... ;)
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[icehog3]

I think this thread has opened up a great discussion and it has given me many ideas on how to counter this nicely.

Excellent. Can I have a cigar?

[chand]

I do not think that word means what you think it means... ;)
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Inconceivable!

[poker]

Excellent. Can I have a cigar?

anything in my humi :tu

[pnoon]

Apparently I misunderstood your intent. But I didn't take it 'personally'. I see what you were driving at.

I think this thread has opened up a great discussion and it has given me many ideas on how to counter this nicely.

:tu & :)
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[icehog3]

anything in my humi :tu

I would smoke a Piedra just for the company, Kelly. :)

[pektel]

Inconceivable!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/johnny_vegas_photo/inconceivable-1.jpg

[MajorCaptSilly]

On a related note, I was approached by a down on his luck fellow while getting out of my car at a client's place today. He told me he needed $8.00 to get enough gas for a friend's car as his mother had passed away today. The story was long and full of holes. I gave him 10 bucks and told him "good luck." Whatever his situation, he needed the money more than me today. I guess I'm a soft touch with cash as well as cigars.


MCS

[Whipper Snapper]

I guess I should change my user title to "first mooching-noob"

[Whynot]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/johnny_vegas_photo/inconceivable-1.jpg

No more rhymes now, I mean it.

[cmitch]

Excellent. Can I have a cigar?
Why, absolutely! What's your addy?:D

[icehog3]

Why, absolutely! What's your addy?:D

Just send them to me in my van down by the river. ;) :r

[pnoon]

Just send them to me in my van down by the river. ;) :r

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/pnoon/Photoshop%20Fun%20Private/farley-pnoon.gif

[shilala]

Excellent. Can I have a cigar?
How no one has said "INCOMING!!!" yet, I'll never know.
"Bomb Tom" rhymes, too. You like rhymes. This is so weird, right?
I have work to do.

[cmitch]

How no one has said "INCOMING!!!" yet, I'll never know.
"Bomb Tom" rhymes, too. You like rhymes. This is so weird, right?
I have work to do.
That's what is so great about bombs. There's the rolodex and then there's the snitches. I love this place!:)

[pektel]

No more rhymes now, I mean it.

Anybody want a peanut?

:D

[OLS]

I guess I should change my user title to "first mooching-noob"

You weren't the first per se, you were just the first whipper-snapper I remember. Your sincerity
and desire to learn was the real reason you were such a popular target.

[landhoney]

Anybody want a peanut?

:D

Fezzik, are there rocks ahead?

[icehog3]

Fezzik, are there rocks ahead?

If there are, we'll all be dead.

[357]

If there are, we'll all be dead.

have fun storming the castle!

[icehog3]

have fun storming the castle!

I brought 4 horses, in case we found the lady. Hello, Lady!

[pnoon]

I brought 4 horses, in case we found the lady. Hello, Lady!

You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic land mass.

[icehog3]

You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic land mass.

Adam! :D

[mscales]

I think half the fun of smoking cigars is sharing cigars with others weather they enjoy cigars or not. Never know who you might meet, to me it’s not whether they look the part or know what they are doing to me it’s who I am.



I agree with this. I have more fun with friends having a smoke and a beer on the deck. Even my duaghter joins me on occassion for a cigar. I do not mind giving a cigar to a friend that wants to try a cigar and I try to pick out a good one so they will have nie experience with a good cigar. But, there some that just bum a cigar and wouldn't know the difference between POS and good smoke, they just don't wnat to spend their money. I guess it all comes down to the person in front of you at the time.

[replicant_argent]

Why is Peter Adam today?

[pnoon]

Why is Peter Adam today?

Why is Adam Peter today?

[replicant_argent]

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa
it's so
beautiful!!!


What does it mean?
Life

imitating



sh'art!

[pnoon]

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa
it's so
beautiful!!!


What does it mean?
Life

imitating



sh'art!

Words of wisdom.
Thanks, Mr. Hanky.

[longknocker]

Why is Adam Peter today?

Now I'm "Thoroughly" Confused!:r

[T.G]

I brought 4 horses, in case we found the lady. Hello, Lady!

You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic land mass.

Adam! :D

:r:r

[shilala]

whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa

it's so
beautiful!!!


What does it mean?
Life

imitating




sh'art!

Simply beautiful. :lr

[Katmancross]

A good non cigar smoking friend on facebook responds to one of my cigar announcements with "cough, cough."
I respond with something half witty and he responds with "why don't you send me one?"
I tell him I smoke full bodied cigars. If you're not a cigar smoker they will be too strong for you and you won't like it."
Implied "no" to his request.
If I did send him "one" he would put it in a drawer and a month from now smoke it. He'd "cough, cough" and throw it away later telling me it tasted like s**t.

[drob]

Give a fellow a shitty cigar, and he may never smoke another. Give a fellow a great (or even good) cigar, and you may gain another BOTL for life!

Just saying.

[Whipper Snapper]

Peter sharts all the time

[pnoon]

Peter sharts all the time

WTF :confused:

Think before you post, Blake.

[Katmancross]

Give a fellow a shitty cigar, and he may never smoke another. Give a fellow a great (or even good) cigar, and you may gain another BOTL for life!

Just saying.

What if I gave him a smoked fish instead...two birds with one stone?

[Whipper Snapper]

WTF :confused:

Think before you post, Blake.

One fart joke too many I guess. Sorry Peter, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.

[Brad]

You just need to take some less expensive sticks around with you for occasions like this. I wouldn't hand out a 1964 Padron to a non-expierenced smoker either. But something like an Oliva G would be fine, and they aren't overly expensive. They aren't dog turds, and something I would, and do, smoke myself.

[Katmancross]

I worked at a construction company where everyone mooched from me. Pissed me off because no one ever reciprocated. So instead of giving them decent cigars, I started giving them dog turds. They didn't even know the difference.
My favorite is someone wants some sticks and then promises to bring me back a gift from Florida on their vacation. Guess what never arrives?
They can afford to go on vacation but not go to a cigar store or even offer to pay me.
That gets my short hairs up.
I finally told all them "Go fish."

[itsme_timd]

Edited by icehog3 to comply with CA rules.

[guitar4001]

Or just carry around really good cheap cigars.

I think that alot of people have no idea how much cigars cost. They see the gas station brands and assume that all cigars are similar to those. It shocks some people when they find out that some cigars cost *gasp* $5 a piece. I can't imagine what those who are not cigar smokers think when they see $20 or more cigars.

[Katmancross]

I'm sorry to have to post this here but I really couldn't believe what I was reading from Katmancross. He's posting in this thread about how he can't stand cigar mooches but he's on another forum I'm a moderator on trying to beg for cigars. Here's the best part... a LOT of people and manufacturers sent him cigars but he wasn't happy with the quality, now he's trying to trade up to get ultra premium cigars. Also, Xikar sent him some cigars and cutters and he's trying to trade at least one of the cutters away. Here's his post on the other forum. MODS - If you want to know where this was posted PM me.

I got Thomas' address and sent him a nice 5 pack in a an old travel humidor with a little humidification disk in it. They were basically mild cigars.
I hope he enjoys them. Yes. I'm a hypocrite and S.O.B. Thank you for pointing that out from your perch of righteousness. I apologize to everyone for being such a jerk. I'm having a f*****g nervous breakdown here and I'm acting like an idiot and moron. My apologies. I won't post anything until I feel more like myself.

[md4958]

I got Thomas' address and sent him a nice 5 pack in a an old travel humidor with a little humidification disk in it. They were basically mild cigars.
I hope he enjoys them. Yes. I'm a hypocrite and S.O.B. Thank you for pointing that out from your perch of righteousness. I apologize to everyone for being such a jerk. I'm having a f*****g nervous breakdown here and I'm acting like an idiot and moron. My apologies. I won't post anything until I feel more like myself.

Anybody can be down on their luck. There are guys here that wish they had your problems, you wouldn't know it because they dont constantly complain.

But your attitude that really stinks. Even when you are apologizing, you can help but spit in somebody's face. My :2

[kaisersozei]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 16 (14 members and 2 guests)

These are the best threads :noon

[Lucky_Hippo]

IBTBIP = In Before The Butt Itch Powder

[hscmit]

enjoying the show?

[Stephen]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 16 (14 members and 2 guests)

These are the best threads :noon
Are the views better from these perches of righteousness? What kind of wait list do they have?

[pnoon]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 16 (14 members and 2 guests)

These are the best threads :noon
Unless you're an admin.
:hn
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[hscmit]

Are the views better from these perches of righteousness? What kind of wait list do they have?

I would have to assume the view is similar to the screen during a colonoscopy

[hscmit]

Unless you're an admin.
:hn
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sorry peter

[Stephen]

I would have to assume the view is similar to the screen during a colonoscopy
http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oh0OdgjOdDk/0.jpg&sa=X&ei=H2dlTbuDHMS9twftteWXBg&ved=0CAQQ8wc4IQ&usg=AFQjCNGvxvSwwM4MEr2cqXwVqncWox1rZA

[Katmancross]

Anybody can be down on their luck. There are guys here that wish they had your problems, you wouldn't know it because they dont constantly complain.

But your attitude that really stinks. Even when you are apologizing, you can help but spit in somebody's face. My :2


OK. Here's the deal. all you guys that are down on your luck and can't afford cigars, send me a PM and explain your situation and I'd be happy to send you a few sticks of what I've received lately from clients.

[HK3-]

Nice review. ;)

[pnoon]

sorry peter
No apology necessary.
Just wanted to point out that while it may be entertaining for most, for the admins it can mean having to intervene and or take action.
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[md4958]

OK. Here's the deal. all you guys that are down on your luck and can't afford cigars, send me a PM and explain your situation and I'd be happy to send you a few sticks of what I've received lately from clients.

They arent looking for hand-outs either.

[MarioF]

Unless you're an admin.
:hn
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Peter it's days like this that we really appreciate the amount of work it takes to keep this site the way it is. Thank you!!

[OHRD]

Epic! A somewhat related post...can someone send me a link to the CA Rolodex? Seriously.

[CigarNut]

Peter it's days like this that we really appreciate the amount of work it takes to keep this site the way it is. Thank you!!http://www.amusementinsider.com/forums/images/smilies/ditto2.gif

[kaisersozei]

Epic! A somewhat related post...can someone send me a link to the CA Rolodex? Seriously.

You must make a request for specific information to pnoon. Peter's the keeper of that info.

[Stephen]

Epic! A somewhat related post...can someone send me a link to the CA Rolodex? Seriously.
Why, you plan on sending a hand-written letter to each and every individual on the rolodex asking them for cigars? You bum you...;)

[MajorCaptSilly]

I believe this is a good time to post how happy I am that CA was created and convey my appreciation for all the mods and the work they do here.


MCS

P.S. I'd like to bite Tom's bicep in a loving way.

[awsmith4]

OK. Here's the deal. all you guys that are down on your luck and can't afford cigars, send me a PM and explain your situation and I'd be happy to send you a few sticks of what I've received lately from clients.

You really shouldn't re-gift. Just move forward

What Moe was trying to tell you is that every time you apologize you have to throw one finally jab. A true apology leaves it as 'I'm sorry' not 'I'm sorry but...'

I've on cigar boards for just four years. In just this short time I've seen scam after scam. I am not calling you a scammer but because of those with sob stories that preceded you you have an uphill battle when trying to defend mooching.

[pektel]

Peter it's days like this that we really appreciate the amount of work it takes to keep this site the way it is. Thank you!!

Word. This has become the place I visit most online. Many thanks to the ToE for making CA what it is. :banger:banger

Epic! A somewhat related post...can someone send me a link to the CA Rolodex? Seriously.

pnoon holds the rolodex. Just have to pm him with the member's name, and he'll give you the address, if that person has submitted his/her address to be added to the rolodex.

[hscmit]

I believe this is a good time to post how happy I am that CA was created and convey my appreciation for all the mods and the work they do here.


MCS

P.S. I'd like to bite Tom's bicep in a loving way.



I think tom would enjoy that,
as long as its done in a loving way

[T.G]

Epic!

Generally speaking, "Epic" isn't the word that comes to my mind when a thread creates this much unnecessary BS for the admins to deal with.

A somewhat related post...can someone send me a link to the CA Rolodex? Seriously.

You need to PM Peter (pnoon) about gaining access.

[Stephen]

Peter it's days like this that we really appreciate the amount of work it takes to keep this site the way it is. Thank you!!
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I believe this is a good time to post how happy I am that CA was created and convey my appreciation for all the mods and the work they do here.


MCS

P.S. I'd like to bite Tom's bicep in a loving way.


Word. This has become the place I visit most online. Many thanks to the ToE for making CA what it is. :banger:banger
Agree on all accounts. Except with biting Tom's bicep; that's just creepy...:sw

[OHRD]

Why, you plan on sending a hand-written letter to each and every individual on the rolodex asking them for cigars? You bum you...;)

Come on Stephen, I don't have time for handwritten notes. It'll be generically typed and mass addressed. You got any stamps?

[Stephen]

Come on Stephen, I don't have time for handwritten notes. It'll be generically typed and mass addressed. You got any stamps?
Well I do, but they're not self-adhevise. ;s

[J0eybb]

We used to get together at a buddies house to discuss guns and smoke some hooka, and one of the guys once said "When my friends come over they bring me expensive cigars". This was before I smoked cigars. I thought to myself what an asshole.

At the same place I had a guy bring a bag of cigars from one of the local B&Ms and offer them all up to anyone that wanted one. I chose one at random, as it was probably my first cigar that wasn't purple flavored. I offered to pay for it, but he told me not to worry about it.

Now, I bring my 15 count with me when we BBQ, the lake, or an outdoor event. I load it up with some shrapnels, or vanilla flavored cigars, a few Nica Libres or equivalent, a few of whatever I am smoking to share with those in the know. I let them pick. What they do with it is up to them.

I generally smoke cheap sticks anyway, as I am a frugal bastid.

[OHRD]

Staying on topic.

I've got a group of buddies in town and we try to smoke weekly. One of the guys is a serious smoker, the others aren't really. Whenever we get together I always plan to give out 2-3 cigars. Even though they don't rant and rave about the flavor and construction, I still like to give them nice cigars than cheapies.

I've had 2 buddies (not apart of this group) recently become regular smokers and it was because they were given the good stuff by friends early on.

[Kreth]

I'm good on cigars right now, but I could use a PS3. And a couple of games. Good ones, no crap. ;)
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[OHRD]

I'm good on cigars right now, but I could use a PS3. And a couple of games. Good ones, no crap. ;)
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I'm thinking of selling my XBOX360 games b/c my system got the red ring of death. Is this the correct thread to discuss that?

[CigarNut]

I'm good on cigars right now, but I could use a PS3. And a couple of games. Good ones, no crap. ;)
Posted via Mobile DeviceNo PS3, but I have a broken NES system; will that do? Some good games there -- like Pilot Wings, Mario Kart and others that may or may not have water damage :)

[OHRD]

No PS3, but I have a broken NES system; will that do? Some good games there -- like Pilot Wings, Mario Kart and others that may or may not have water damage :)

Throw in Excitebike and this thread can be closed as far as I'm concerned.

[Mugen910]

Throw in Excitebike and this thread can be closed as far as I'm concerned.

that's crazy talk...tecmo bowl...

[jsnake]

I don't mind sharing. Part of the fun of cigars. I usually pack some good stuff and cheap stuff to have a variety. If a guy is inexperienced I will pick one for him. If it is family or someone who really appreciates what I have they get to pick. Nothing hurts more then seeing some guy take 2 or 3 puffs on a $10 cigar and snub it out like a cheap cigarette.

If anyone needs any I have some used underwear I wouldn't mind sending to someone here.

[icehog3]

I believe this is a good time to post how happy I am that CA was created and convey my appreciation for all the mods and the work they do here.


MCS

P.S. I'd like to bite Tom's bicep in a loving way.

I must be the luckiest boy in the world! :D

[OHRD]

If we're giving stuff away, I've been trying to GIVE THIS AWAY forever on CA - http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38441

[SDmate]

If anyone needs any I have some used underwear I wouldn't mind sending to someone here.

Is the elastic still good.. if so I may be interested

[JaKaacH]

Vegamite makes a good tire gel...:noon

[OHRD]

Is the elastic still good.. if so I may be interested

Good thinking - headbands. I'm in.

[jsnake]

Good thinking - headbands. I'm in.Good elastic so I got you guys covered.

[SDmate]

Good elastic so I got you guys covered.

:wo

[justonemorestick]

Pre skidmarked?

[thecatch83]

I guess my personal view is that I don't mind sharing a good cigar with a newbie.....to me, that is the appeal of cigar smoking (it's social interaction). You could also let someone take a few puffs and then decide if you want to give them one of their own. Puff puff give is how I roll. And yes as eluded to earlier, if you want your friends to jump off a large building in disgust, offer them anything made in the Acid line............just sayin

[jsnake]

Pre skidmarked?I would never skid send a fella a pair with skid marks. I have cleaned all the evidence of anal leakage out of these. :su

[thecatch83]

I would never skid send a fella a pair with skid marks. I have cleaned all the evidence of anal leakage out of these. :su


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[justonemorestick]

Dont worry about the cleaning just roll them up and give them out as dog rockets.

[OHRD]

I would never skid send a fella a pair with skid marks. I have cleaned all the evidence of anal leakage out of these. :su

Too far Jake, too far

[thecatch83]

Dont worry about the cleaning just roll them up and give them out as Gurkha's.

Fixed :tu

[cmitch]

Dont worry about the cleaning just roll them up and give them out as Gurkha's.
Fixed :tu

Pffffffft!:r

[jsnake]

Too far Jake, too far
My bad :sl

[cigarmonkel]

If you go through my vino temp you will find mostly higher end cigars. But that doesn't mean i don't like cheap smokes. the CAO Criollo is an excellent cheaper smoke along with the italia and brazilia. The CFO's before they stopped making them, amazing smokes.

I also had roommates who knew nothing about cigars but thought they did. I made sure to keep cheapier smokes that i enjoyed but had no problem with seeing them only half smoked and put down. I would never give them one of the high end sticks because i know their palates haven't developed for cigars yet which isn't their fault. To them the 3-5 dollar cigars were just as much enjoyed as a 10-15 dollar cigar would have been.

[BlindedByScience]

I've had very good luck gifting complete nOoBs with Padron 2K's. A very decent cigar, won't break the bank, and I won't choke them if they ash it 1/3 of the way in.....:)

Any experienced smokers get asked what they like, and anyone that shows up at my house gets to smoke anything I have. Always have, always will. Unless they show up every day....:ss

[mobarbq]

That's where bundled cigars come in handy. Especially if they don't know the difference anyway...