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tx_tuff
01-10-2011, 02:04 PM
There is a new cigar magazine out there brought to you by Stephen Boyajian "AKA sboyajian on twitter and forums" , and the key point is that it is written for and buy the cigar smoker. People just like use in forums on twitter etc... The first issue is free online http://thecigarnetwork.com/magazine.asp and includes a interview with 601's Eddie Ortega, cigar ratings by cigar smokers (not some board) and more. The next issue will be in print and online, check it out.

688sonarmen
01-10-2011, 02:12 PM
I checked it out and it is a very good magazine. I like how there are articles from most of the cigar bloggers we all know. The ratings are similar to top 25 cigar and IMHO subject to the hype of the cigar not necessarily the quality of the smoke. That is my only down side, other than that I will be subscribing to it.

Emjaysmash
01-10-2011, 02:16 PM
I really enjoyed this issue. Hoping it stays around a long time!

tx_tuff
01-10-2011, 02:17 PM
I checked it out and it is a very good magazine. I like how there are articles from most of the cigar bloggers we all know. The ratings are similar to top 25 cigar and IMHO subject to the hype of the cigar not necessarily the quality of the smoke. That is my only down side, other than that I will be subscribing to it.

Whats good about the cigar ratings is that you can be added to those that rated them. On thecigarnetwork.com you can add your own rating to the database there or add a new cigar and rating. Its as fair as a cigar rating can be I think.

mpd340
01-10-2011, 02:43 PM
Checked it out hope it gets enough attention to hang around!

:tu

Springsman
01-10-2011, 02:55 PM
wow...loved it! I'm gonna spring for the subscription I think!

justonemorestick
01-10-2011, 04:22 PM
Might be worth checking out.

polobear
01-10-2011, 04:25 PM
Thumbs up on these guys! Hope to see them around for a long time.

jesseboston81
01-10-2011, 05:03 PM
Thanks for the link, going to read it as soon as I get a chance.

kelmac07
01-10-2011, 05:33 PM
Damn fine first issue. :tu :tu

Matt-N-Ga
01-10-2011, 06:18 PM
Kinda weird seeing all the contributors and people that helped get it going and sayin, " I know him, and him, and him." Pretty cool, glad to see it come to life.

Costa
01-10-2011, 07:10 PM
Great find, thanks! Pulled the trigger on a years subscription, looks like a really good read.

Eleven
01-10-2011, 08:48 PM
Does anyone know Stephen Boyajian?

He looks very similar to Willian Boyajian, former President of the Gemological Institute of America. Them crazy Armenians have their hands in everything!

RevSmoke
01-10-2011, 10:20 PM
Their reviews contain quips from their website, yourcigarratings.com. I was just paging through them and noticed on page 31 some familiar words in their rating of the Cabaiguan Robusto Extra - yeah, my words made it into the magazine. Cool!

I didn't know that would happen.

RevSmoke
01-10-2011, 10:29 PM
Their reviews contain quips from their website, yourcigarratings.com. I was just paging through them and noticed on page 31 some familiar words in their rating of the Cabaiguan Robusto Extra - yeah, my words made it into the magazine. Cool!

I didn't know that would happen.

The big blue balloon quote was me.

As I turned the page, there was my stuff about the the La Flor Dominicana Air Bender Matatan - grey bubble.

Pretty cool.

Like I said, I went over there to read, registered and then reviewed a few cigars. Funny to see yourself in print. Thought it was funny when they had me as a reviewer for SMOKE too.

dannysguitar
01-11-2011, 10:18 AM
Does anyone know Stephen Boyajian?

He looks very similar to Willian Boyajian, former President of the Gemological Institute of America. Them crazy Armenians have their hands in everything!

I believe Stephen is on here no?

sboyajian
01-11-2011, 10:25 AM
No relation.. but yes, all of us Armenians have similarities. :)

Rev -- Thank you for using YourCigarRatings. I think consumer ratings are the best way to tell manufacturers and consumers what's out there.

Thanks for the support guys (and the subscription Craig!)

Eleven
01-11-2011, 02:10 PM
No relation.. but yes, all of us Armenians have similarities. :)

You could be his son, look him up!

DennisP
01-11-2011, 03:05 PM
Liked the look and found most of it interesting. Didn't agree with the articles about Cubans and wish they had more focus on them. Reviews were interesting, although with no regards to years they really may not be reviewing the same cigar.

RevSmoke
01-11-2011, 04:28 PM
Liked the look and found most of it interesting. Didn't agree with the articles about Cubans and wish they had more focus on them. Reviews were interesting, although with no regards to years they really may not be reviewing the same cigar.

While you are indeed correct, I am curious where you have seen a review site that states the years of the cigar smoked?

RevSmoke
01-11-2011, 04:30 PM
Rev -- Thank you for using YourCigarRatings. I think consumer ratings are the best way to tell manufacturers and consumers what's out there.


You are welcome, it is a great site. I like to review cigars, and it is good to get the perspective of other smokers.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

DennisP
01-11-2011, 06:03 PM
While you are indeed correct, I am curious where you have seen a review site that states the years of the cigar smoked?

I don't go to many sites. Many reviews here include the year and Cigar Aficionado includes month/year on Cuban ratings.

RevSmoke
01-11-2011, 06:38 PM
I don't go to many sites. Many reviews here include the year and Cigar Aficionado includes month/year on Cuban ratings.

OK, that is very true. I've never seen month/year on CCs in any magazine, or for that matter, any of the review sites. The data base to do that would be astonishing.

sboyajian
01-11-2011, 08:05 PM
The problem with the year aspect is not everyone will know the year. While I like the idea in theory, it would be impossible to not only verify but depend on people to know what year the box they bought out of at the store was from.

CA can do this with Cuban's as the box has a date code stamped. Most non CC's do not have dates on the box.

DennisP
01-11-2011, 09:57 PM
I know it's hard and I really don't have a good solution. I just know that I can't rate an '06, '08 and '10 RASS the same, yet they all get grouped together in this method. I think that most CC smokers have a good idea of the year of what they're smoking.

The magazine definitely seemed slanted to the domestic market, which I understand. I enjoyed the interview with Eddie and the blog pieces a lot.

sboyajian
01-12-2011, 07:53 AM
I hope it wasn't slanted, it wasn't the goal. Was an editorial piece with an editorial opinion, which also contained facts about how hard it's going to be going forward to get Cubans. :)

We actually have a piece coming up comparing Cuban's to their Dominican "counterparts".. where in most cases the Cuban is recommended over the non-cuban.

RevSmoke
01-12-2011, 10:45 AM
I hope it wasn't slanted, it wasn't the goal. Was an editorial piece with an editorial opinion, which also contained facts about how hard it's going to be going forward to get Cubans. :)

We actually have a piece coming up comparing Cuban's to their Dominican "counterparts".. where in most cases the Cuban is recommended over the non-cuban.

In this regard, I believe the CCs are much different than their NC counterparts. I could add, that in every instance they are not comparable to each other, but I have not had every single CC -vs- NC bearing the same name.

Of course, this is not to say that the CCs are better than their NC counterparts (except that my opinion says that is true in many cases). However, some of the NCs, while I wouldn't call inferior, have a way different flavor profile, which should be expected considering where the tobaccos are grown. How do you say which flavor profile is "better"?

Better is a personal taste issue.

So, there are numerous NCs which I personally believe are every bit as good as, if not better, than CCs. Again, that is my personal opinion.

For example, there isn't a CC out there to compare to the flavors I get from an Oliva V, Litto Gomez, Coronado, Kristoff, Taboo HSGs, or AF Hemingways (just to start a list of some of my favorites). This isn't to say that they are better than CCs, but that there is no CC that has a flavor profile to match these brands.

While the Tatuaje and Illisione brands seem to be "Cubanesque" to many tastes (not mine), they are unique in their own right. Those who like them, if they like CCs, will have both in their humidors.

Next, I'd like to say that everybody needs to smoke what they like, according to their own individual tastes. Don't smoke it because it is trendy or the new thing (unless this is the first taste to try it), smoke it because you like it.

Saying that, I have both CCs and NCs in my list of favorites. Some I know only like CCs. Some only smoke NCs. Whatever you enjoy, smoke. The cigars in my humidor (CCs & NCs) are there because their flavor profiles are the ones that give me pleasure.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Costa
01-12-2011, 12:18 PM
In this regard, I believe the CCs are much different than their NC counterparts. I could add, that in every instance they are not comparable to each other, but I have not had every single CC -vs- NC bearing the same name.

Of course, this is not to say that the CCs are better than their NC counterparts (except that my opinion says that is true in many cases). However, some of the NCs, while I wouldn't call inferior, have a way different flavor profile, which should be expected considering where the tobaccos are grown. How do you say which flavor profile is "better"?

Better is a personal taste issue.

So, there are numerous NCs which I personally believe are every bit as good as, if not better, than CCs. Again, that is my personal opinion.

For example, there isn't a CC out there to compare to the flavors I get from an Oliva V, Litto Gomez, Coronado, Kristoff, Taboo HSGs, or AF Hemingways (just to start a list of some of my favorites). This isn't to say that they are better than CCs, but that there is no CC that has a flavor profile to match these brands.

While the Tatuaje and Illisione brands seem to be "Cubanesque" to many tastes (not mine), they are unique in their own right. Those who like them, if they like CCs, will have both in their humidors.

Next, I'd like to say that everybody needs to smoke what they like, according to their own individual tastes. Don't smoke it because it is trendy or the new thing (unless this is the first taste to try it), smoke it because you like it.

Saying that, I have both CCs and NCs in my list of favorites. Some I know only like CCs. Some only smoke NCs. Whatever you enjoy, smoke. The cigars in my humidor (CCs & NCs) are there because their flavor profiles are the ones that give me pleasure.

Peace of the Lord be with you.


Well said.

GO PACK!

DennisP
01-12-2011, 02:42 PM
We actually have a piece coming up comparing Cuban's to their Dominican "counterparts".. where in most cases the Cuban is recommended over the non-cuban.

I'm not trying to be an ass here, but what's the point? Sure, they have the same name, but that's it. Why not through in some Cohibo's too? :sh

sboyajian
01-12-2011, 03:07 PM
The point is many people don't understand there is a difference. While we live and breath cigars daily on forums.. the average joe that walks into a cigar shop and buys a Cohiba.. thinks it's every bit as good as the cuban cohiba.. same with Montecristo, Romeo y Julieta etc.

Why do you think those name brands continue to be among the largest selling cigars? Joe Consumer doesn't under know that outside of name, there is a BIG difference.

for what it's worth.. there is a reason I put counterparts in quotes.. I am well aware they are polar opposites.

DennisP
01-12-2011, 03:14 PM
OK, I guess that makes a little more sense to me. I could see the article being written without needing to try and compare/reviews, but I get it.

On a different note, I tried to login/create an account on yourcigarratings.com using the Facebook connect, now I get this every time I go to the page:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e09'

The EXECUTE permission was denied on the object 'FBRegister', database 'cigarfriendly', schema 'dbo'.

/include/Secure.asp, line 110

sboyajian
01-12-2011, 03:31 PM
blasted hell.. my host made a change of permissions and didn't change some of my stored procedures. Should be resolved now.

On a side note, I appreciate the honest feedback and I've decided to change it around a bit. Rather than have a "this one is better than that one" feel to it, I'm going to make it understood which we preferred, but at the same time explain the good sides of either cigar.

bishjd123
01-13-2011, 11:42 AM
Just read through the first issue and I thought it was really well prepared and right up my alley. However, for the rated cigars portion of the magazine, I found myself wanting a bit more of an explanation of the cigar than the comment bubbles provided. Nothing major, but maybe a one or two sentence blurb about it.

OHRD
01-13-2011, 12:51 PM
This is a very good thing!

Dukeuni
01-13-2011, 05:28 PM
Just ordered a subscription myself! Do I receive the first issue as part of my 4 magazines a year? Or do I have to wait until the next issue in 3 months?

sboyajian
01-14-2011, 07:59 AM
Just ordered a subscription myself! Do I receive the first issue as part of my 4 magazines a year? Or do I have to wait until the next issue in 3 months?

The first print issue will be Spring 2011 (which is actually only a few months away since we're already halfway to February). The first issue will only be an online release.

sboyajian
01-14-2011, 08:02 AM
Just read through the first issue and I thought it was really well prepared and right up my alley. However, for the rated cigars portion of the magazine, I found myself wanting a bit more of an explanation of the cigar than the comment bubbles provided. Nothing major, but maybe a one or two sentence blurb about it.

I've considered this myself. Part of my intention with the first issue was to get as much feedback as possible.

I will be sure to add specific information in the next issue alongside the quotes. Thank you.