601's New Bands [Archive] - Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum

Volusianator

12-30-2010, 07:44 PM

Me, I think they totally fudged up, the old bands were very cool looking and I think the new ones look to cartoonish. Your thoughts?

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maninblack

12-30-2010, 07:46 PM

Yeah they messed up the bands, but the blend is the same. I don't buy cigars for their pretty bands or boxes.

Bill86

12-30-2010, 07:48 PM

I think there is only a few people I remember saying that they actually liked the new band. I certainly don't. Does that make me not want to buy the cigar....eh...I wouldn't go that far.

staminator

12-30-2010, 07:49 PM

I love the 601s. I have to agree though. The new band is pretty terrible looking.

kelmac07

12-30-2010, 07:49 PM

I loved the old bands...news ones suck. But, thank goodness the stick remains unchanged. :dr :dr

Ogre

12-30-2010, 07:49 PM

I like the old one better, more traditional.

Salvelinus

12-30-2010, 07:52 PM

The new bands are weak, but it doesn't matter cigar wise for me.

neoflex

12-30-2010, 07:58 PM

I think they both suck but the new ones are by far worse than the previous version. :sh But at the end of the day we don't smoke the bands.

Volusianator

12-30-2010, 08:02 PM

I think they both suck but the new ones are by far worse than the previous version. :sh But at the end of the day we don't smoke the bands.

That is absolutely correct, but working at two cigar shops I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, bands make a difference. Not as much to the seasoned smoker, but the beginner, it means a lot.

jet66

12-30-2010, 08:17 PM

I had never tried a 601 until after reading about them here. I saw them in the shop and thought "Generic band? They must be one of those 'cheap but good' smokes." You definitely can't judge a cigar by the band, but there is a lot to be said for first impressions, especially if your reputation isn't already known.

Volusianator

12-30-2010, 08:26 PM

I saw them in the shop and thought "Generic band? They must be one of those 'cheap but good' smokes." You definitely can't judge a cigar by the band, but there is a lot to be said for first impressions, especially if your reputation isn't already known.

Which is exactly my point, especially seeing as they already had a great looking band, then to dumb it down just makes no sense.

weak_link

12-30-2010, 09:11 PM

The new bands are weak...

Hey! Don't go suckin' me into this mess! :r

Just playin' but really, the new bands are horrible.

elderboy02

12-30-2010, 09:38 PM

I like the new bands.

bscottskangum

12-30-2010, 09:44 PM

The new bands to me are horrible. The new bands make the 601 blues look like a cheap stick.

But are they going to keep me from buying/smoking the cigar? No

Am I going to make fun of the bands every chance I get? Yes

Volusianator

12-30-2010, 11:24 PM

But are they going to keep me from buying/smoking the cigar? No

Am I going to make fun of the bands every chance I get? Yes

OK, that just made me laugh. :r

Dunkel

12-31-2010, 01:52 AM

While it's true that we don't smoke the bands, it's still a form of art IMO. The old bands were nice and classy looking and the new ones are too simple and generic looking. If someone asks me what I'm smoking I usually pass them the band or show them the band if it's still attached to the cigar. If I ever end up with any of these new banded 601's I will simply tell the person what I'm smoking, as the new bands are not presentable.

Ahbroody

12-31-2010, 02:18 AM

Thats what happens when Rocky gets involved.
Sorry I couldnt pass up the chance.

Drez

12-31-2010, 04:57 AM

<----------- this guy is not a fan

CoreyD

12-31-2010, 05:19 AM

I'd rather they cut corners with the band and not the smoke but yes the new are silly and the old ones to me were cool. But the new are more distinct to know what your smoking red,blue,black how can one confuse that with the new bands.

Smokin Gator

12-31-2010, 05:21 AM

I voted "I really could care less" as that is the truth. The new band is butt ugly though!!!

heavyd

12-31-2010, 05:23 AM

While it's true that we don't smoke the bands, it's still a form of art IMO.

I agree. I usually enjoy looking at the bands. Especially the elaborate nc one's like La Aroma De Cuba EE and My Father, etc. The new 601 band is atrocious! Man, newbs are gonna see the 601 Blue on the shelf and wonder why a "value" stick costs $5 or $6! :D

STEVE S

12-31-2010, 06:09 AM

The new band is very cheap looking, but thank God Rocky hasn't changed the cigar itself.

Krish the Fish

12-31-2010, 06:36 AM

What everyone else said. A very "gaudy" band, if you will. Honestly, I even prefer the La Sirena band to this, because even though that band is like 4", the colors are at least a little more muted.

Also, I'm not going to lie, the first time I saw 601s, I was confused as to why a budget stick was so expensive. :r

Bruins Fan

12-31-2010, 06:46 AM

Thats what happens when Rocky gets involved.
Sorry I couldnt pass up the chance.
I 'm with you on that :D

Brad

12-31-2010, 11:47 AM

While you don't smoke the bands, they do make a statment about the cigar, and presentation is very important in this industry. You don't see many high end cigars with crappy looking bands. Opus X for example, the band is stunning. Padron Family Reserve, very elegant looking band.

The new 601's make it look like something that belongs in a $40 bundle, IMO.

Krish the Fish

12-31-2010, 11:49 AM

The new 601's make it look like something that belongs in a $40 bundle, IMO.

I definitely agree. I've never actually smoked a 601 because I thought it was a budget stick at a non-budget stick price...

Mr B

12-31-2010, 11:51 AM

Those new bands look as lame as the "Patel Bros" band, another plain jane, cheap band.
Dont get me wrong, i dont buy a stick based on the band but it sure is nice to see quality workmanship go into it.
One of my favoirtes is the San Cristobals band. Talk about classy and beautiful.

LostAbbott

12-31-2010, 12:16 PM

wow these must be good sticks. Never had one myself, but I thought both bands looked pretty lame, new ones are worse.

BigCat

12-31-2010, 12:19 PM

I don't like the new band either, but I sure would like to see one in a store around here. I can't find them anywhere.

neoflex

12-31-2010, 12:54 PM

but thank God Rocky hasn't changed the cigar itself.
Give it time he will ruin it he just figured he would start with the band:r

whodeeni

12-31-2010, 01:02 PM

Hey Guys I met Eddie about 2 weeks ago! He said they're changing the bands back and they should be ready to go in January! He said and I qoute "We Fugged Up!" *lol* Really cool guy, very humble, and great BOTL!

Volusianator

12-31-2010, 01:05 PM

justonemorestick

12-31-2010, 02:28 PM

But how do they smoke

Volusianator

12-31-2010, 02:54 PM

But how do they smoke

You clip one end, set fire to the other, then suck smoke out of the end you just clipped.

Dunkel

12-31-2010, 03:38 PM

You clip one end, set fire to the other, then suck smoke out of the end you just clipped.

:r:r:r:r:tu

joeobx

12-31-2010, 03:46 PM

I went into a shop and they had them in box's side by side and the new ones were a dollar more per stick :sh

staminator

01-01-2011, 07:40 AM

I went into a shop and they had them in box's side by side and the new ones were a dollar more per stick :sh

Depending where you are from, maybe this was a tax increase? I recently had that happen (from New York). 75% FML

Totemic

01-01-2011, 12:43 PM

The new band is very cheap looking, but thank God Rocky hasn't changed the cigar itself.

I thought at least one of the blends were changed?

Darrell

01-01-2011, 12:47 PM

I have better stuff to worry about than a manufacturer changing their band style. :2

MajorCaptSilly

01-01-2011, 12:56 PM

The old bands had too little of the color of the smoke. I had to look at it for a while to see if I had a green, blue, or black. These are much easier to read. They kind of look like an old style band. Don't love and don't hate either.

MCS

Volusianator

01-01-2011, 01:03 PM

I have better stuff to worry about than a manufacturer changing their band style. :2

Absolutely true, which also holds true for 95% of every post on the site. It's conversation, just looking for opinion. I don't recall actually anybody saying they were worrying about it, just wondering what people opinions were is all.

MajorCaptSilly

01-01-2011, 04:30 PM

Absolutely true, which also holds true for 95% of every post on the site. It's conversation, just looking for opinion. I don't recall actually anybody saying they were worrying about it, just wondering what people opinions were is all.

Don't mind Darrell. He's just mad because he didn't get to ride Space Mountain. Waka Waka

Darrell

01-01-2011, 04:33 PM

Don't mind Darrell. He's just mad because he didn't get to ride Space Mountain. Waka Waka

Noooooo we got to ride! About 30 mins after I posted we got to ride it. :tg

MajorCaptSilly

01-01-2011, 04:34 PM

Noooooo we got to ride! About 30 mins after I posted we got to ride it. :tg

I'm glad. I thought I was gonna have to fly out and give you a hug.

MCS

Pat1075

01-02-2011, 07:09 PM

That is absolutely correct, but working at two cigar shops I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, bands make a difference. Not as much to the seasoned smoker, but the beginner, it means a lot.

all too true too many cigars fail because of stupid bands

staminator

01-02-2011, 09:22 PM

all too true too many cigars fail because of stupid bands

That's why as a beginner it seems like a good idea to shop at a B&M. The conversations you have can educate you so quickly. I was ready to turn down the 601 (yes for the band), and then one of the workers at the shop suggested it. And yes it was delicious. Mmm...

jesseboston81

01-05-2011, 09:21 AM

"Cartoonish" is the perfect way to describe the new bands, although I don't like the old bands all that much either. On the old bands the 601 seems hidden, and they could have emphasized it better without resorting to the style of the new bands.

NorcalMark

01-05-2011, 03:55 PM

Looks like the cost of the band may come down a bit.

Four Colors, embossed. = big dough
Three Colors, non embossed = plain band, less money.

Maybe the cost of the cigar will come down. Just sayin

Mark

Mr B

01-05-2011, 05:16 PM

thebayratt

01-05-2011, 05:58 PM

The old ones are better, but could give two pennies less. All I care about is the smoke.

NorcalMark

01-06-2011, 10:10 AM

Lets see.....money in our pocket.....or money in his pocket.....:rolleyes:

I am sure it's money in their pocket. But the concept is right. :banger

Mark

awsmith4

01-06-2011, 10:16 AM

Or maybe they are off setting a production price increase. Change to a cheaper band so that the profit margin stays the same without having to raise the price of the cigar.

My only rant is they discontinued the 601 Black which is/was a fantastic cigar.

Black Label

01-06-2011, 01:16 PM

They are nice!

KenyanSandBoa

01-06-2011, 01:23 PM

Definitely not a fan of the new bands...they look too generic for me.

jsnake

01-06-2011, 07:56 PM

Who cares about the band? What matters is the tobacco underneath. Eddie Ortega did announce a price decrease on 601. I don't mind the new bands at all. Makes them stick out and are much easier to read and see. They looked great at IPCPR.

kafreeman

01-07-2011, 09:01 PM

Zeuceone

01-07-2011, 10:11 PM

Had my first one today and it was great. I didn't have any trouble with the label. Maybe next time ill toast it before I get to it so it burns a little better.

bajaraider

01-11-2011, 04:05 PM

I think the new bands are pretty bad, but the cigar is still great.

I do not buy a cigar for the band.
However, when looking to try a new cigar I have to admit, the marketing of the cigar does have some impact. If the box and band look cheap and I am looking at a pricey cigar, I will more than likely pass. If the marketing shows that there has been some effort put forth, then I assume (until proven otherwise) that the cigar had that much attention as well.

Just my two cents...

Skywalker

01-11-2011, 04:30 PM

OB Rules!!!

Old Band!!!

Volusianator

01-11-2011, 05:06 PM

Who cares about the band?
Well, that's why I asked the question. If you notice, I didn't say it was a bad cigar, just wondered what other thought of the band.

Katmancross

01-15-2011, 09:43 AM

The new bands are weak, but it doesn't matter cigar wise for me.

I agree. Obviously, we have too much time on our hands to discuss how pretty bands are. LOL!

Volusianator

01-15-2011, 11:17 AM

Obviously, we have too much time on our hands to discuss how pretty bands are. LOL!

It's a conversation, simple as that. It has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of time I/we have on our hands. If there were no discussion on the board, it would be quite lame. There was a change of bands, a drastic change of bands, hell, I don't even smoke 601's, really don't care for them that much.

awsmith4

01-15-2011, 12:28 PM

It's a conversation, simple as that. It has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of time I/we have on our hands. If there were no discussion on the board, it would be quite lame. There was a change of bands, a drastic change of bands, hell, I don't even smoke 601's, really don't care for them that much.

You mean we are supposed to discuss things on a discussion board??? :confused: