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Steelergar
12-02-2010, 08:35 PM
I am in the market for a new lighter. I like torches and I want something reliable and somewhat windproof. I am sick of unreliable lighters such as calabri and another one I bought at a gun show. I was going to check xikar's product because they have a reputation for quality. Is this true or are they unreliable also?

Ismith75
12-02-2010, 08:39 PM
Xikar's are nice, great customer service. Look into blazer torches or load up Ronson lights, mine work everytime and you can pick em for about 4 bucks at Walmart.

tedrodgerscpa
12-02-2010, 08:42 PM
+1 for Ronson.

Blazer products also seem to light 9 times out of 10

bobarian
12-02-2010, 08:42 PM
Be sure to use a quality fuel like 5x refined Vector. :2

FWIW I use these, if one breaks(very rare) just toss it and grab another. Can't be beat, less than $2/each if you order more than 3 includes free shipping. :tu

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

CigarNut
12-02-2010, 08:46 PM
This is kind of like asking "what's the best cigar?" It all depends on what you like, what you can afford, and any specific needs you might have.

I like Lotus lighters -- they are relatively inexpensive and hold a lot of fuel. But there are many other good lighters.

As Bob said -- make sure you use a quality fuel.

Ismith75
12-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Be sure to use a quality fuel like 5x refined Vector. :2
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

Absolute truth. Quality fuel and occasional cleaning with some compressed air keeps you smoking for a long time. -(P

mastershogun
12-02-2010, 08:49 PM
Be sure to use a quality fuel like 5x refined Vector. :2

FWIW I use these, if one breaks(very rare) just toss it and grab another. Can't be beat, less than $2/each if you order more than 3 includes free shipping. :tu

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

I just ordered some more earlier today. These are great!

Bill86
12-02-2010, 08:54 PM
Yeah those lighters at dealsextreme are good stuff for the price. I just use Xikar butane, I suppose I could order some 5x refined vector.

If you want something nicer and reliable I've had no problems with my Xikars. They warranty everything they sell too. So I've got the exodus, trezo, an Xi cutter and the MTX scissors.

bigliver
12-02-2010, 09:00 PM
I picked up a Siglo lighter from Cigarmony awhile back. I absolutely love it. It's not cheap, but it's been extremely reliable, and it holds a lot of fuel.

floydpink
12-02-2010, 09:01 PM
My PB 207 with Xikar fuel is about as reliable as I can imagine.

Been in my front pocket on the motorcycle through all kinds of elements, including heavy downpours and has never missed a beat.

My biggest challenge is not forgetting where I put it.

chippewastud79
12-02-2010, 09:14 PM
Colibri, have had the same one for 5 years, never had a problem. I have never purged it, had to blow it out with compressed air or emptied the entire tank before filling. Vector fuel since I bought it, except for filling it up at herfs and events with whatever is on hand. Pretty much the easiest lighter to use and works every time. :tu

druturn
12-02-2010, 09:18 PM
Ronson. Ronson. Ronson. Most reliable piece of machinery I have ever purchased for $3.

jmsremax
12-02-2010, 09:38 PM
Ronson. Ronson. Ronson. Most reliable piece of machinery I have ever purchased for $3.

:tpd:

Luckily my last two lighters have been trustworthy because the 3 WalMarts around my area no longer sell them. I simply refill them when they run out of fluid....been over a year now.

forgop
12-02-2010, 09:39 PM
The cheapest one I own.

brigey57
12-02-2010, 10:47 PM
Absolutely.

Dirty fuel will kill your lighter faster than anything out there.

Be sure to use a quality fuel like 5x refined Vector. :2

FWIW I use these, if one breaks(very rare) just toss it and grab another. Can't be beat, less than $2/each if you order more than 3 includes free shipping. :tu

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

sammyboy405
12-02-2010, 10:49 PM
I just got a Xikar for 28 bucks off Cigarbid.com I Hope its a good one.

theoneandonly
12-02-2010, 11:14 PM
I have a Lotus light that I got from my father-in-law who really introduced me to how to slow down and truly enjoy a cigar. I also have a zippo with the butane insert for it that has been pretty reliable. Also my father-in-law has been using Xikar lighters and cutter for as long as I have known him (at least five years) and he hasn't had any problems with some that he has had for way longer then I have known him. Just remember you get what you pay for.

neoflex
12-02-2010, 11:23 PM
Believe it or not my most reliable lighter is my $14 Z-Plus insert. My only gripe is the small fuel tank but other than that, you can't kill it.

68TriShield
12-03-2010, 04:58 AM
A dry match.

fricky
12-03-2010, 05:59 AM
My favorite and most relable lighter is the XIKAR EX Windproof Lighter. I could light a cigar while driving in my vehicle with my window down.

maninblack
12-03-2010, 06:09 AM
I prefer a match but I also like my zippo. When it comes to a torch lighter, I go with my xikar or my ronson.

Lucky_Hippo
12-03-2010, 06:17 AM
I have a Lotus light that I got from my father-in-law who really introduced me to how to slow down and truly enjoy a cigar. I also have a zippo with the butane insert for it that has been pretty reliable. Also my father-in-law has been using Xikar lighters and cutter for as long as I have known him (at least five years) and he hasn't had any problems with some that he has had for way longer then I have known him. Just remember you get what you pay for.

Sorry, gotta disagree on this one when it comes to butane torches. I've been smoking cigars for over 15 yrs now and have several 80 and 100 dollar torches that clog every other refill no matter how clean the butane or how precise the purge process is. They are mostly colibri name brand as well. However like many have mentioned here and in other threads, the 2 - 4 dollar ronson is one of the absolute most reliable lighters you can get as well as one of the cheapest. I have a Xikar that I also really enjoy, however the double flame goes through too much butane for my liking when I'm smoking smaller ring gauges.

Pick one up if you get the chance and give it a shot. You may be very surprised. :tu

sammyboy405
12-03-2010, 06:37 AM
I prefer a match but I also like my zippo. When it comes to a torch lighter, I go with my xikar or my ronson.

Really? Now see Ive been told by Many people to Never use a Zippo style lighter with a Cigar. They said it Ruins the Flavor?

Ive always wanted to buy a zippo, but I keep getting warned away?

mosesbotbol
12-03-2010, 06:47 AM
Either stick with disposable "BIC's" or go for a Dunhill-Davidoff-Dupont.

jonan
12-03-2010, 07:59 AM
i absolutely LOVE my dupont line 2...had it for 3 years and it has never failed me...i use it at least two to three times a day and still on the original flint!! holds a TON of gas and go about 3 months before refilling...

Ogre
12-03-2010, 08:06 AM
I have a Bugatti lighter, single flame. Pick it up on CI for $20. Can find cheap if looked for. Tough lighter with a two hole punch.

bishjd123
12-03-2010, 08:17 AM
Ronson. A 3-4 dollar lighter with great reliability. I've been using my for over a year without any problems.

Bunker
12-03-2010, 08:35 AM
Ronson. A 3-4 dollar lighter with great reliability. I've been using my for over a year without any problems.

I buy them when I find them in Wallyworld. Best $3 you can spend.

captain53
12-03-2010, 08:56 AM
Ronson Jet-Lite is the most reliable I have used and only $3 when you can find them at the Walmart which is getting very difficult to do, but last time they had a load I bought a dozen just in case I live a long time. Lots of nicer, fancier, more ergonomic, prettier, more expensive, larger flame, and on and on choices but none more reliable.

But - none of them are reliable without High Quality Fuel!!!! I have had best results with Vector and it is available in large cans at a reasonable price.

maninblack
12-03-2010, 11:08 AM
Really? Now see Ive been told by Many people to Never use a Zippo style lighter with a Cigar. They said it Ruins the Flavor?

Ive always wanted to buy a zippo, but I keep getting warned away?

I've never noticed and I've lit Many cigars with them. I still prefer a match though.

ucla695
12-03-2010, 11:45 AM
I love my Blazer PB-207. I can always depend on it! :tu YMMV

tsolomon
12-03-2010, 11:46 AM
Been through a number of lighters and they all have their pros and cons, but I think that the 5x Vector fuel helps.

Here's how I see it.

Best lighter for the price, Ronson Jet Lite. The only downside is that it you can't see the fuel level. I wish they were easier to find, but I have two of them and they work great.

Best lighter to get repaired or replaced, Xikar. Service is fast and easy. I have two of them, but I just don't use them. One stopped working and I sent it back and it was quickly replaced. It worked for awhile and then stopped. The other is a dual flame that has worked for years and I use to carry it as a backup until I got the Ronsons.

Best lighter for fuel capacity and my favorite to use, Blazer PB-207. I'm on my third one. Limited warranty and service takes at least a month. I have returned at least two of them for service and they stopped working shortly after I got them back. Blazer seems to be into repairing rather than replacing.

I use to use a 3X fuel and switched to the Vector 5X and my current Blazer continues to work well. It has lasted longer than the first two, so I think most of my problems were from the fuel I was using. :confused:

ucla695
12-03-2010, 11:48 AM
I'm with everyone on the 5x fuel. Vector and Lava have worked well for me.

Mr B
12-03-2010, 11:55 AM
Its definetly not a pocket lighter, but I got one of these a few months back and it works great. Not one single problem so far.

http://www.amazon.com/Iso-Tip-7978-EZ-Torch-mini-torch/dp/B0002V2FEG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291402287&sr=8-1

CasaDooley
12-03-2010, 11:57 AM
My S.T. Dupont Xtend Has lit every single time I use it. I also trust my Xikar Nautilus (NXT), Blazers, Vectors, Nibos, Ronsons, dealextreme cheapie's and yes, even my Colibri's. I only use Vector or Lava 5x fuel with all my lighters, I always purge them and keep them clean.:ss

neoflex
12-03-2010, 12:03 PM
Really? Now see Ive been told by Many people to Never use a Zippo style lighter with a Cigar. They said it Ruins the Flavor?

Ive always wanted to buy a zippo, but I keep getting warned away?

You can still have the best of both worlds. You can get a Zippo with the Z-Plus insert. The Z-Plus is rock solid and you still have the convenience of a Zippo.

Ferrari5180
12-03-2010, 12:12 PM
The blazer little buddy is a piece of crap. I suggest when you see it, you turn around and run the other way.

jbo57
12-03-2010, 12:43 PM
I've had a Xicar for a few years. It's a double torch and I really like the warranty. I also have had one of those $2 Ronsons for a couple years and it's still working. I did have to clean my Xicar with a toothbrush the other day...now it works good again.

elderboy02
12-03-2010, 12:47 PM
Be sure to use a quality fuel like 5x refined Vector. :2

FWIW I use these, if one breaks(very rare) just toss it and grab another. Can't be beat, less than $2/each if you order more than 3 includes free shipping. :tu

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

Those are what I use as well. If you want them order now. It usually takes 2-3 weeks to get them.

ir13
12-03-2010, 01:14 PM
I love my Blazer CG-001.

tchariya
12-03-2010, 01:33 PM
My gas stove is my most reliable lighter.

BeerAdvocate
12-03-2010, 02:07 PM
Cant beat a Ronson for the price

Steelergar
12-03-2010, 04:48 PM
Thanks for the info. Do they sell the Vector 5x at walmart as well?

Kreth
12-03-2010, 05:12 PM
Thanks for the info. Do they sell the Vector 5x at walmart as well?
The one here just has the Ronson fuel (which I've used without issue in several of my Jet Lites).
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brigey57
12-03-2010, 05:40 PM
I have a Lotus light that I got from my father-in-law who really introduced me to how to slow down and truly enjoy a cigar. I also have a zippo with the butane insert for it that has been pretty reliable. Also my father-in-law has been using Xikar lighters and cutter for as long as I have known him (at least five years) and he hasn't had any problems with some that he has had for way longer then I have known him. Just remember you get what you pay for.

Sorry, gotta disagree on this one when it comes to butane torches. I've been smoking cigars for over 15 yrs now and have several 80 and 100 dollar torches that clog every other refill no matter how clean the butane or how precise the purge process is. They are mostly colibri name brand as well. However like many have mentioned here and in other threads, the 2 - 4 dollar ronson is one of the absolute most reliable lighters you can get as well as one of the cheapest. I have a Xikar that I also really enjoy, however the double flame goes through too much butane for my liking when I'm smoking smaller ring gauges.

Pick one up if you get the chance and give it a shot. You may be very surprised. :tu

I have to be honest with you. The best lighter I own was one I bought on a discount table at a local B&M for $10. It is a Colibri Firebird. It is darn near indestructible. I have had it for as long as I can remember and I've been smoking cigars for at least 15 years.:2

thegoldenmackid
12-03-2010, 10:39 PM
I get bashed for this al the time... but my Colibri Boss II is by far my most reliable lighter. Guess I got the one that worked.

Pat1075
12-03-2010, 11:41 PM
my xikar havana because whenever it breaks they give me a new one or my dupont ligne 2 because it never breaks

auburnfan1980
12-03-2010, 11:49 PM
Ok, ok, I'll bite on this and give my :2

http://www.xikar.com/popup_pix.asp?back=blue&image_name=product/575gm.jpg&item=NXT%20Lighter
Xikar NXT. The customer service from Xikar is second-to-none (not to mention the lifetime warranty) and I'm a huge fan of single-torch lighters above that of the dual or triple flame. Why, you're probably wanting to ask? (or not lol) It's simply because when I'm toasting the foot of my cigar, too many sources of flame-age will not only toast the foot, but scorch the sides as well.

Now if you're on a budget, let me echo the sentiments of every other BOTL and his mom who has posted the same thing and recommend the Ronson Jetlite. They're $2.94 at the local Walmart here and you're lucky they're out because I just checked before posting this as I was gonna bomb your arse with one! :r

Tim (smokeyscotch) handed me one at a herf in Birmingham two or three years ago and I've never been the same. I miss seeing Tim around here, but I'll never forget that act of kindness. Sorry to get sentimental, but has anyone heard from him lately?

Bill86
12-03-2010, 11:52 PM
Yeah I had a ronson but somehow it got lost somewhere, haven't found one sense but I use to light up A LOT of cigarettes with it. It was great for highway chain smoking.

auburnfan1980
12-04-2010, 12:09 AM
Yeah I had a ronson but somehow it got lost somewhere, haven't found one sense but I use to light up A LOT of cigarettes with it. It was great for highway chain smoking.

Bill, I gotta come clean and admit....I heard you were using my favorite cigar lighter for *cringe* cigarettes, and I had to take it from you and give it to someone who wouldn't abuse it any longer. :r

BTcigars
12-04-2010, 03:07 PM
What, no love for Caran d'Ache (http://www.carandache.ch/m/index.lbl)? It will be the best couple thousand dollars you spend, lol.

Honestly I have to go with Xikar because of their warranty and their customer service. If you still need something cheaper but with a lifetime warranty, check out Jetline. I dont know how their customer service is though.

Bill86
12-04-2010, 03:09 PM
Bill, I gotta come clean and admit....I heard you were using my favorite cigar lighter for *cringe* cigarettes, and I had to take it from you and give it to someone who wouldn't abuse it any longer. :r

So that's where it went! I lost so many cheap cutters and lighters I thought the interstate was eating them. I figure I'm done about 20-50 bics, 2 ronsons and 3-5 cheap cigar cutters. Oh and probably a zippo or two.

captain53
12-04-2010, 03:20 PM
Lots of folks use these too, I have had one for about a year now and it is also very dependable. Holds a bunch of fuel and good flame. Only negative is the fuel adjustment valve is not too precise but works ok. Cheap solution to outdoor cigar smoking:

http://www.harborfreight.com/micro-torch-42099.html

8047

captain53
12-04-2010, 03:26 PM
Thanks for the info. Do they sell the Vector 5x at walmart as well?

No, usually only found at B&M's or Online. My local B&M sells a 320 ml can for $7.95. They sell it at a lot of online shops, also at Amazon.com.

8048

DonAustin
12-04-2010, 04:27 PM
This is kind of like asking "what's the best cigar?" It all depends on what you like, what you can afford, and any specific needs you might have.

I like Lotus lighters -- they are relatively inexpensive and hold a lot of fuel. But there are many other good lighters.

I agree, go and test some and see which one fits you the best. But as an suggestion I have both a xikar and Rocky Patel, both of which has pull out cigar punches on them and lifetime warranties. Couldnt be happier with either.
Hope you pick out a good one man:tu, update us on what you decided to go with.

SmokinCozy
12-04-2010, 05:41 PM
RONSON!!!! in my pocket everyday, used everyday for well over a year. All the pretty name brands are still pretty and broken in a drawer.

Steelergar
12-05-2010, 10:56 PM
I picked up a Ronson over the weekend and its what I was looking for.I'm gonna do an office space on that piece of junk I picked up at a gun show. Thanks for the info.

thegoldenmackid
12-05-2010, 11:09 PM
What, no love for Caran d'Ache (http://www.carandache.ch/m/index.lbl)? It will be the best couple thousand dollars you spend, lol.

What's a precision flame limiter? lol.

Krish the Fish
12-05-2010, 11:59 PM
My most reliable lighter is my ST Dupont Xtend. Keeps going and going! (Vector fuel only in this bad boy)

KillerCelt
12-06-2010, 02:50 AM
My tastes aren't nearly sensitive enough to notice a difference if I use a Zippo and it's hard to beat a Zippo for reliability.

justonemorestick
12-06-2010, 12:41 PM
I use my zippo and the zippo fuel I cant tell a difference vs butane torch. I think that most people wouldn't be able to tell a difference. I personally like that there is almost nothing short of physical damage and running out of flint and fluid that will keep it from lighting.

I think if you have refined your palette enough to detect any trace of fuel used to light a cigar you would probably be more concerned with how the waitress's perfume, when the rug was last vacuumed and what brand of window cleaner they use to clean the windows is interfering with your cigar while you whip out your $800 DuPont lighter and light your cigar which was rolled on a virgins thighs.

/rant_off

BTcigars
12-06-2010, 12:50 PM
What's a precision flame limiter? lol.

Its pretty cool actually, it is engineered so that the flame stays at the desired size despite if it is even low on fuel. If you use a flint lighter, you know how it can be annoying to keep playing with the flame adjustment. Still a damn expensive lighter! lol

Steelergar
12-18-2010, 09:55 PM
I've had the Ronson for a dozen cigars now and it blows away the other torches I had at a fraction of the price. The only thing I noticed is it dosn't work well when in cold weather, when exposed for over an hour. But the other ones had that problem too. Anybody know of a cold weather proof torch.

Bill86
12-18-2010, 09:58 PM
Honestly I don't think any lighter is the end all be all. Probably your best bet is grabbing dozens of Ronsons or http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179 those. For the price of $2-$3 bucks you cannot beat either. I dunno I've had no problems with my Xikars but it's hard to argue the mass quanties you can buy those cheap and reliable lighters in. Probably should also make sure you're using good quality butane as well.

RevSmoke
12-18-2010, 10:12 PM
Ronson. Ronson. Ronson. Most reliable piece of machinery I have ever purchased for $3.

:tpd:

Luckily my last two lighters have been trustworthy because the 3 WalMarts around my area no longer sell them. I simply refill them when they run out of fluid....been over a year now.

X2

CasaDooley
12-18-2010, 11:28 PM
I've had the Ronson for a dozen cigars now and it blows away the other torches I had at a fraction of the price. The only thing I noticed is it dosn't work well when in cold weather, when exposed for over an hour. But the other ones had that problem too. Anybody know of a cold weather proof torch.

Butane becomes "sluggish" in cold weather which makes it harder to vaporize and ignite. Keep your lighter warm in the cold weather (like putting it in an inside coat pocket close to your chest) and it will usually work just fine. Hope this helps. :ss

ripper
12-19-2010, 11:33 AM
If you want to upgrade from Ronson Jetlite and Zippos, try Nibo Space 6. It's a reliable triple torch and looks nice, esp. the gold. The Nibo Space 7 is a double-flame.
Never had one issue with with either lighter. They hold a lot of butane, and are not guzzlers. Best prices are at CigarAmerica:
http://cigaramerica.net/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1948

http://cigaramerica.net/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1949

staminator
12-20-2010, 02:35 PM
Personally. I have a Blazer PB 207, a Ronson and an old ST Dupont Xtend. My favorite by far out of these is the Dupont, but maybe that's because it goes for ~$150 for the old ones (you get what you pay for?). But the Blazer is relatively inexpensive (I picked mine up for $25 on Amazon). I just received the Ronson last night from a friend, and it seems like a good (cheap) reliable lighter. I think it is a bit of personal preference. However, I would recommend you get a single flame because it is hard to correct a bad burn on a cigar with a two or three flame torch.

weak_link
12-20-2010, 04:47 PM
Be sure to use a quality fuel like 5x refined Vector. :2

FWIW I use these, if one breaks(very rare) just toss it and grab another. Can't be beat, less than $2/each if you order more than 3 includes free shipping. :tu

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

These are the best. I've had expensive torches but the guang da's are the best of all of 'em.

Bayou Tiger
12-20-2010, 07:39 PM
I have a xixar two flame that i really like. Runs good outside, not sure how it is on durability as it is rather new.