PDA

View Full Version : Can anyone help me sort this measly selection?


TheFool
12-01-2010, 10:42 PM
I'm just getting into cigars, had a wonderful afternoon smoking an Ashton Cabinet with my brother and his flatmate for my birthday which got me interested in the hobby and culturing myself. Anyways, unfortunately the town I live in has no real cigar shop, just a restaurant and a bar that have some cigars as an afterthought. I figured I'd do some research on what I could get my hands on easily so I sent out an email asking for their selection and I have a friend of a friend working on a list from the other place. Just got the email back, and I don't know enough about cigars to sort this list. I tried looking up a couple reviews, but the names here are to vague for me to even be close to being sure I'm reading about the right thing.
Below is a copy of the email:

Here are the Cigars that we offer. If you are looking for something specific we can certainly order them for you.
-Punch $6.99
-Arturo Fuente $2.49
-Macanudo $6.99
-Tatiana Large Flavored $6.99
-Partagas $6.99
-Sumatra Special $0.99
-Tatiana Small $0.99

If I get something specific I'm sure I'll order it myself, but I was hoping I could start out a little locally, get an idea for what I like and dislike and branch out from there. Is there anything here? Any ideas, reviews, tips etc would be greatly appreciated - much thanks.

Pat1075
12-01-2010, 10:53 PM
Max what you have there largely falls into the big brand classics. Punch would be a medium bodied honduran rather earthy. Macanudo is your standard mild cigar of which their are many that are better like Ashton. Fuente is another usually milder cigar at that price I would guess a curly head which is a mixed fill and is fine for an inexpensive stick. Both tatianas are flavored cigars I don't know which ones though. Dominican Partagas to me tastes like cardboard but is another mild cigar. And sumatra special well I'm stymied.
I will say that I still enjoy punch double maduro rothchilds. though I'm sure I will catch flak for that from someone.

icehog3
12-01-2010, 10:54 PM
I'm just getting into cigars, had a wonderful afternoon smoking an Ashton Cabinet with my brother and his flatmate for my birthday which got me interested in the hobby and culturing myself. Anyways, unfortunately the town I live in has no real cigar shop, just a restaurant and a bar that have some cigars as an afterthought. I figured I'd do some research on what I could get my hands on easily so I sent out an email asking for their selection and I have a friend of a friend working on a list from the other place. Just got the email back, and I don't know enough about cigars to sort this list. I tried looking up a couple reviews, but the names here are to vague for me to even be close to being sure I'm reading about the right thing.
Below is a copy of the email:

Here are the Cigars that we offer. If you are looking for something specific we can certainly order them for you.
-Punch $6.99
-Arturo Fuente $2.49
-Macanudo $6.99
-Tatiana Large Flavored $6.99
-Partagas $6.99
-Sumatra Special $0.99
-Tatiana Small $0.99

If I get something specific I'm sure I'll order it myself, but I was hoping I could start out a little locally, get an idea for what I like and dislike and branch out from there. Is there anything here? Any ideas, reviews, tips etc would be greatly appreciated - much thanks.

Punch, Fuente, Macanudo, Partagas all make LOTS of different cigars...tough to make a call with just a marca name, and not the specific cigars identified. :2

Pat1075
12-01-2010, 10:57 PM
Punch, Fuente, Macanudo, Partagas all make LOTS of different cigars...tough to make a call with just a marca name, and not the specific cigars identified. :2

right but most likely they are just going to have the standard line the partagas red band the mac cafe and probably a punch with an EMS wrapper

akumushi
12-01-2010, 11:01 PM
I think your best bet is to order a sampler off of cigarsinternational (http://www.cigarsinternational.com/) or famous (http://www.famous-smoke.com/). Normally, I would tell you to support your B&M, but if there's nothing in your area, you'll be able to find some deals on mixed samplers so you can expand your horizons. As far as that list goes, if they have those in stock, you can't go wrong with Fuente as a novice, but don't order from someone with such a limited selection, check out those sites online and you'll be in better shape.:2

Bill86
12-01-2010, 11:04 PM
That or go to cigarsatyourprice.com and order a bunch of singles and start trying things out.

TheFool
12-01-2010, 11:13 PM
Patrick, thanks for the rundown, I think your also right about just having the "standards" all they have is a little humidor I think they only have one type from each brand in the list.

Clayton, yeah, I'll probably end up just ordering things for a bit, I hear this other place is supposed to have a better selection and I'll probably be back with another post once I get their list. I'm really hoping that I can shop local because I don't have any storing equipment for cigars so I one at a time was my goal. Also I need to find a smoking pal out here, so once again local would be nice because than we could just pop round and grab a single and enjoy our afternoon. This time next year, assuming everything goes as I think it will, I'll be in a town with a great smoke shop and some good cigar pals. So we'll see what happens.

Thanks again both of you for the advice

Cattani
12-02-2010, 10:09 AM
I got started smoking by going in on a few random samplers with my boss and another guy in the office...it is an inexpensive way to test some out. It is also REALLY fun to put them all on a desk and do a "cigar draft", inclusive of trades after.

Sled Dog
12-02-2010, 10:13 AM
I got started smoking by going in on a few random samplers with my boss and another guy in the office...it is an inexpensive way to test some out. It is also REALLY fun to put them all on a desk and do a "cigar draft", inclusive of trades after.

Gotta love a cigar draft!!!

Brutus2600
12-02-2010, 10:22 AM
I'm really hoping that I can shop local because I don't have any storing equipment for cigars so I one at a time was my goal.

This can easily be fixed, along with you being able to try some new cigars, by many of the sites out there. For example Cigars International has a Starter Pack (http://www.cigarsinternational.com/prodDisp.asp?item=SP-CISP01&cat=10) that would just take care of the humidor problem and give you a place to store 15-20 cigars.

Alternatively, it looks like they have a Christmas special thing that you can build your own starter humidor (http://www.cigarsinternational.com/prodDisp.asp?item=CS-PT6) and get a 5-pack of cigars with it.

I know I've seen beginner samplers that also come with a small humidor, but I can't seem to find them now.

This doesn't solve your problem of somebody to smoke with, but it's a start :)

bobarian
12-02-2010, 12:29 PM
Cigars can be temporarily(2-4weeks) stored in a ziplock back. No humidification is necessary. You can also get a small tupperware type container and a water pillow for storage. :2

theoneandonly
12-02-2010, 12:49 PM
I say go in and get one of each and then try a different one each day. This is of course if you want to support your local B&M.

druturn
12-02-2010, 02:52 PM
And remember the golden rule of buying a humidor; buy much bigger than you think you will initially need. When I first got into cigars, I bought about a "50" count humi and thought it was the be all end all of humidors for me. A few months later, it started to fill up FAST. Now I currently have probably upwards of 100 crammed in there with not an inch to spare and have had to use my two travel humi's(15 and 5 count caddys) as overflow when I go a little crazy on buying sticks. Go big or go home. Trust us, you will thank us later.

Brutus2600
12-02-2010, 02:58 PM
Drew, I was trying not to scare the poor guy off so quickly :r


But seriously, if you're going to get a desktop humidor, you really should just get a solid 150-300 count humidor. Even then you'll find you will probably fill that up pretty quickly being on this board. I bought a 50 count humidor when I first started smoking, I only smoked two or three a month. Then I joined this board and within 6 months my 50 count was full of singles, a 28 bottle wine cooler was full, and a 75 quart cooler was full as well. So I'm not saying you NEED to buy that much storage to begin with, but just be prepared for the inevitable ;)

TheFool
12-02-2010, 04:33 PM
Drew, I was trying not to scare the poor guy off so quickly :r


But seriously, if you're going to get a desktop humidor, you really should just get a solid 150-300 count humidor. Even then you'll find you will probably fill that up pretty quickly being on this board. I bought a 50 count humidor when I first started smoking, I only smoked two or three a month. Then I joined this board and within 6 months my 50 count was full of singles, a 28 bottle wine cooler was full, and a 75 quart cooler was full as well. So I'm not saying you NEED to buy that much storage to begin with, but just be prepared for the inevitable ;)


Ha ha that turned out a little more scary than Drew's comment, it's all in the details lol. I was planning to be in the couple a month or so for a while, maybe up it a bit down the road but we'll see where I end up

Devanmc
12-02-2010, 04:37 PM
same happened to me! go larger then you think youll need. cuz once you have more storage space youll buy more and then itll be full. its a slippery slope!

druturn
12-02-2010, 04:56 PM
Drew, I was trying not to scare the poor guy off so quickly :r


I am just trying to prepare him for the slippery slope that is ahead, all members of this board are bound for that slope the moment they join!! :r :r

Bill86
12-02-2010, 04:59 PM
Get a coolidor, I had a 300 count that got filled in like ....2 months. Now I just store singles in it and I use the 120 quart for storage. At least now I can hold roughly 1000 cigars. I'm only about 350 into that but I have more on the way. Maybe another 50 or so. Biggest thing is a 300 count is really a 200 count, MAYBE. They don't account for larger than a corona or a hygrometer and beads.

Devanmc
12-02-2010, 07:34 PM
^^ exactly. so like a 50ct may hold 50 coronas, its definitely not holding 50 Churchills.

Bill86
12-02-2010, 07:56 PM
Well a 50 count won't even hold 50 coronas, probably like 30. When they give the count they don't look at humidification or a hygrometer. They assume you'll use their crappy analog and the crappy black rectangular humidification. That's why to me, I would refrain from using any desktops unless you want a classy desktop for an office or something. Coolidors and vinotemps are much better ideas. I'll get a nice vino probably next summer so I can control the temperature.

EDIT and when I did try those black rectangular things...they fell repeatingly every like 10 minutes. I'd be sleeping and BOOM! Wake up look in and the damn thing fell again.

Ranger_B
12-02-2010, 08:04 PM
Max another online place is Fullers pullers. Nice thing I find there are the sampler packs are full of good cigars not one or two good cigars and some less then desireables mixed in to get rid of. His samplers are arranged by origin, strength, Wrapper, etc. One to start with would be this: http://fullerspullers.us/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=109&products_id=628&osCsid=c6bcad8acdb151da687343000ed4376a pretty mild cigars similar to the ashton you smoked. Another is this maduro sampler http://fullerspullers.us/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=109&products_id=1418&osCsid=c6bcad8acdb151da687343000ed4376a. With any cigars shipped from Joe Fuller you get a humi-pouch sealed in a plastic bag and if you keep this package in a tupperwear you could keep those cigars for a good month or so. Just another choice to add on top of the others mentioned above. Another option would be just to shoot me a pm with your address and in the spirit of the season I could put something together for you.

guitar4001
12-04-2010, 06:49 PM
In Kansas City, there's a ton of cigars and some great smoking locations, BUT here in Leavenworth the "pickins are slim." There is a gas station with a rather large humidor, but the guy keeps it at about 90% humidity and 80 degrees. I saw more mold there than on a loaf of month old bread.

TheFool
12-04-2010, 11:00 PM
In Kansas City, there's a ton of cigars and some great smoking locations, BUT here in Leavenworth the "pickins are slim." There is a gas station with a rather large humidor, but the guy keeps it at about 90% humidity and 80 degrees. I saw more mold there than on a loaf of month old bread.

That's pretty harsh. I know what you mean though, there's just nor much interest in it down here. Luckily I'm moving in less than a year, and If I end up where I think I will there is a great smoke shop with a huge walk in humidor and people who know their stuff, I'm really looking forward to spending my afternoons there.

TheFool
12-04-2010, 11:04 PM
Another option would be just to shoot me a pm with your address and in the spirit of the season I could put something together for you.

This community is amazing! You're the second person who has offered to just send me something, it's amazing. I hope I can get a nice enough collection going eventually that I can give back to everyone here.

Ismith75
12-04-2010, 11:27 PM
This community is amazing! You're the second person who has offered to just send me something, it's amazing. I hope I can get a nice enough collection going eventually that I can give back to everyone here.

I'll get in on this too. I got finals this week but shoot me a PM and I'll put something together. :tu

TheFool
12-05-2010, 08:39 AM
I'll get in on this too. I got finals this week but shoot me a PM and I'll put something together. :tu

Ha ha I don't know what to say. . . wow, thanks!

Emjaysmash
12-05-2010, 08:52 AM
Ha ha I don't know what to say. . . wow, thanks!

:tu

TheFool
12-05-2010, 08:54 AM
:tu


Hey, Happy Hanuka!

Gary
12-05-2010, 10:44 AM
I'll get in on this as well -- shoot me a PM -- I'll send you a few sticks.

TheFool
12-05-2010, 11:18 AM
I'll get in on this as well -- shoot me a PM -- I'll send you a few sticks.

You guys are really unbelievably kind, I can't thank you enough!

Emjaysmash
12-05-2010, 11:56 AM
Hey, Happy Hanuka!

Thanks! :tu


Dang, this starting to look like a group bomb, huh?

TheFool
12-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Thanks! :tu


Dang, this starting to look like a group bomb, huh?

It's getting pretty crazy, I really can't thank everyone enough. I'm going to start a cigar journal, and I'm really looking forward to trying all these new cigars out. It'll make a great start to entering the cigar world, but I'm a little afraid people will send too much!

Emjaysmash
12-05-2010, 12:22 PM
It's getting pretty crazy, I really can't thank everyone enough. I'm going to start a cigar journal, and I'm really looking forward to trying all these new cigars out. It'll make a great start to entering the cigar world, but I'm a little afraid people will send too much!

you can never have too much! :tu

A cigar journal is a great idea! I had one for a while when I was starting out.

OLS
12-05-2010, 12:25 PM
Punch, Fuente, Macanudo, Partagas all make LOTS of different cigars...tough to make a call with just a marca name, and not the specific cigars identified. :2I would agree with Tom here, if this is all the info they can give, they either
do not know what they are doing or do not have the time to deal with this kind of inquiry, either of which
would fail my test. Strapp on your guugle helmet and search for cigar reviews and read some stuff.
Then find an internet vendor that sells what you want, price shop and then order.

TheFool
12-05-2010, 12:34 PM
I would agree with Tom here, if this is all the info they can give, they either
do not know what they are doing or do not have the time to deal with this kind of inquiry, either of which
would fail my test. Strapp on your guugle helmet and search for cigar reviews and read some stuff.
Then find an internet vendor that sells what you want, price shop and then order.

They really just sell them as an afterthought. It's a restaurant / bar with a little liquor store and in the liquor store thay have a little humidor with 4 or 5 cigars, it's unfortunate but my town just doesn't have a real smoke shop. I guess there really isn't much of a market for it here.

Bill86
12-05-2010, 12:37 PM
They really just sell them as an afterthought. It's a restaurant / bar with a little liquor store and in the liquor store thay have a little humidor with 4 or 5 cigars, it's unfortunate but my town just doesn't have a real smoke shop. I guess there really isn't much of a market for it here.

Looks like the Internet is your friend here. I see those smaller places that sell cigars and I don't trust them one bit. My bet is they'll smoke horribly and they don't pay any attention to taking care of them properly.

TheFool
12-05-2010, 12:37 PM
you can never have too much! :tu

A cigar journal is a great idea! I had one for a while when I was starting out.

Ha ha sure, but I should get my hands on a humidor so I can store cigars. I was planning on just trying singles for a while, but if everyone is going to be sending me cigars. . . I really ought to get a humidor. Someone here mentioned they might have an extra one laying around, but I haven't heard back from them, do you have any suggestions? Preferably something simple, and not too expensive

TheFool
12-05-2010, 12:39 PM
Looks like the Internet is your friend here. I see those smaller places that sell cigars and I don't trust them one bit. My bet is they'll smoke horribly and they don't pay any attention to taking care of them properly.

That's my guess too, that they just aren't taking proper care of them. I'll probably use the Internet until I move, by this time next year (if i end up where I think I will) I'll be in a town with a great smoke shop. I'm really looking forward to spending some time in there just talking to the people there and trying new things

ylo2na
12-05-2010, 03:50 PM
Whatever road you take regarding humidors and cigar sites, stay away from CIGARBID.COM. Not that their cigars arent good and the deals fantastic, from time to time, but, you wont be able to resist the road to temptation to compete with other cigar lovers to bid and buy, and bid and buy, and bid and buy until you will become on a firstname basis with the FEDEX and UPS drivers who deliver your precious winnings; which, in turn, will necessitate needing a place to store your sticks...namely, in a walk-in humidor, not some 30 or 40 count humidor. Trust me from first hand experience, a very slippery slope and it happens very quickly. Now I know what those gamblers feel like when pulling the one arm bandits in Vegas.
Best hunting,
Ylo2na

TheFool
12-05-2010, 04:21 PM
Whatever road you take regarding humidors and cigar sites, stay away from CIGARBID.COM. Not that their cigars arent good and the deals fantastic, from time to time, but, you wont be able to resist the road to temptation to compete with other cigar lovers to bid and buy, and bid and buy, and bid and buy until you will become on a firstname basis with the FEDEX and UPS drivers who deliver your precious winnings; which, in turn, will necessitate needing a place to store your sticks...namely, in a walk-in humidor, not some 30 or 40 count humidor. Trust me from first hand experience, a very slippery slope and it happens very quickly. Now I know what those gamblers feel like when pulling the one arm bandits in Vegas.
Best hunting,
Ylo2na

Ha ha thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind. I think I'll probably stay away from the bidding stuff till I know a little more about cigars and what I like in a cigar

Emjaysmash
12-05-2010, 04:26 PM
Do you want a full blown wooden humidor, or a cheap alternative?

I'm rocking a tupperware container with some RH beads in my dorm room now. Rock solid!

TheFool
12-05-2010, 04:36 PM
Do you want a full blown wooden humidor, or a cheap alternative?

I'm rocking a tupperware container with some RH beads in my dorm room now. Rock solid!


I've been talking to Bill about what the best affordable options are, and I'm looking into a 48 qt cooler and a half pound of beads, still a little pricey, but it should be more than enough space (for now)

Emjaysmash
12-05-2010, 04:46 PM
I've been talking to Bill about what the best affordable options are, and I'm looking into a 48 qt cooler and a half pound of beads, still a little pricey, but it should be more than enough space (for now)

It seems a bit pricey now, but it's definitely worth it! Good luck!

TheFool
12-05-2010, 04:57 PM
It seems a bit pricey now, but it's definitely worth it! Good luck!

Thanks, I'm getting pretty excited

Cattani
12-05-2010, 07:53 PM
I second the "stay away from the Devil site" post. I've spent well over double what I wanted to this month on cigars from that damn site. There's a ton of deals to be had, but be sure to show some self-restraint!

TheFool
12-05-2010, 07:58 PM
I second the "stay away from the Devil site" post. I've spent well over double what I wanted to this month on cigars from that damn site. There's a ton of deals to be had, but be sure to show some self-restraint!

HA ha I guess ignorance will really be my Saviour here, at least for a while. . . :)

Bill86
12-05-2010, 08:04 PM
IMO as far as the "devil site" I've been on there a bunch of times and only ordered 2 things on one night. Scoring stuff cheap there doesn't really happen that often. I see people bidding stupid prices on everything. Although if it's a holiday you can score some stuff on the SUPER cheap because every idiot is off that site and with relatives/family. No offense or anything.........