Puff, Puff, Pass.

[Comedian]

Okay. I know at all these herf events that a lot of you do the puff, puff, pass thing as a way to sample cigars. Correct me if I am mistaken, of course.

I honestly don't understand this. Doesn't it take a lot more than a few puffs to truly experience a cigar?

Basically, what I'm gettin' at: Is it really worth the saliva swapping? Am I the only one that is kinda grossed out by this idea?

I'd rather swap spit with a woman, not a bunch of guys.. no offense of course to any fellow CA members that play on the other team. -(P

I extrapolated from some of the posts I've seen pertaining to various herf events that it might be considered rude if you don't participate.. wassupwitdat? :sh

Also, for anybody that's ever passed a J around in their youth(or the present;) ), isn't it frustrating when you put the J to your lips only to find somebody has slobbered all over it? This is my dilemma with the PPF.

Enlighten me, please.

[Emjaysmash]

Yes, this can become somewhat annoying to say the least.
But when you have people bring sticks that are older than I am by a long shot, I think it's worth it.
I'd like to be able to sat I tasted a 1940's Clear havana and enjoyed it (or hated it as it may be) then to say I missed the chance.

[Bill86]

From what I hear sometimes they'll PPP VERY expensive or VERY rare cigars. 50-70's Dunhills/Davidoff CC's that have price tags of $80-$150 per cigar.



But I agree with you and fully understand your reasons not to want to participate in a PPP, I really wouldn't either.

[akumushi]

It depends on the smokes being passed around, and your level of OCD. I don't really give a crap about a tiny bit of spit, especially if it's with a few friends that I know well, and frankly, there are some cigars that are passed around at HERFs that leave a lasting impression of fleeting nirvana even after just a few puffs. It's kind of like like saying, why just have sex with a supermodel if you can't marry her? Because buddy, if that's the closest you can get, you might as well go for it.

[14holestogie]

Okay. I know at all these herf events that a lot of you do the puff, puff, pass thing as a way to sample cigars. Correct me if I am mistaken, of course.

I honestly don't understand this. Doesn't it take a lot more than a few puffs to truly experience a cigar?
The cigar typically passes from start to completion, so you definitely get to experience the changes.

Basically, what I'm gettin' at: Is it really worth the saliva swapping? Am I the only one that is kinda grossed out by this idea?
It isn't always worth it, but why take the chance of missing out on a great cigar you may never be able to sample otherwise? A 1970's DPG I was able to sample recently leaps to my mind.

I'd rather swap spit with a woman, not a bunch of guys.. no offense of course to any fellow CA members that play on the other team. -(P

I extrapolated from some of the posts I've seen pertaining to various herf events that it might be considered rude if you don't participate.. wassupwitdat? :sh
Totally up to you whether you wish to participate. Never saw any comments at any I've participated in if you choose not to participate.

Also, for anybody that's ever passed a J around in their youth(or the present;) ), isn't it frustrating when you put the J to your lips only to find somebody has slobbered all over it? This is my dilemma with the PPF.


Enlighten me, please.

To each his own, but I'd hate to miss out on a special moment with a special stick.

[SNKBYT]

like stated above.......it happens sometimes but most of the PPPs are a dry experience & getting to try smokes that you never by yourself is worth it IMO

[Ogre]

Yes, this can become somewhat annoying to say the least.
But when you have people bring sticks that are older than I am by a long shot, I think it's worth it.
I'd like to be able to sat I tasted a 1940's Clear havana and enjoyed it (or hated it as it may be) then to say I missed the chance.

:tpd:

[bobarian]

There are certain people at certain herfs who you dont question when they pass you a smoke to try.:banger But it certainly is your choice whether to participate or not. I've never seen or reacted negatively when someone declined. :2

[Skywalker]

There are certain people at certain herfs who you dont question when they pass you a smoke to try.:banger But it certainly is your choice whether to participate or not. I've never seen or reacted negatively when someone declined. :2

I've never declined anything Bob has PPPed!!!:tu

[Comedian]

I see all of your points, and I understand your positions, but I do not think I will participate in one.

Besides that, even though I cannot enjoy some of the massively rare and expensive smokes due to a lack of funds right now, I believe that it is a only a matter of time before I will be able to.

Big dreams! Once I get there, it's free rare smokes for everybody. That'll make up for my unwillingness to partake in the PPP, right? :D

[Comedian]

There are certain people at certain herfs who you dont question when they pass you a smoke to try.:banger But it certainly is your choice whether to participate or not. I've never seen or reacted negatively when someone declined. :2

I question everything, so that might be an issue. :r

[markem]

it is your call. You should never be singled out for not wanting to participate and at the same time you should not make an issue out of it.

[DennisP]

No problem in not participating. For those that do, remember to dry lip the cigar though.

There is a constant rotation of cigars being passed at the S.H.I.T. herfs. Sometimes people don't participate, no big deal. I usually do but have no problems skipping a cigar that didn't do much for me on later passes.

[Comedian]

it is your call. You should never be singled out for not wanting to participate and at the same time you should not make an issue out of it.

I'm not making an issue out of it, bub, just wonderin' what the fuss is all about, that's all.

ぼくわにほんごへたです。。。

日本語お話しますか

[markem]

I'm not making an issue out of it, bub, just wonderin' what the fuss is all about, that's all.

okay Bub. But I was stating that if offered a cigar in a puff pass that you should not make an issue of it at that time.

okay Bub?

[Don Fernando]

I never participate in a ppp, for two reasons: hygene and like you said, you can't judge a cigar on a few puffs anyway.

[Adriftpanda]

I try and make sure when Bob passes me a cigar, I wet that son of a bish so he won't want it back. :D

[Superbad]

I PPP'd a 50's clear havana at EPIC, I had. It was a really good cigar, and I wanted to share it with the group. Sometimes this might be the only chance people will have to try something like that.

[kafreeman]

Seems kinda gross... but... as long as everyone doesnt slobber all over it

[Superbad]

Just drink lots of liquor and any germs don't have a chance!

[tenbaseg]

It's all personal preference. If you don't want to PPP, just politely decline.

I don't PPP for personal health reasons. I've declined many. I've never seen anyone take it personal or get offended.

[Comedian]

okay Bub. But I was stating that if offered a cigar in a puff pass that you should not make an issue of it at that time.

okay Bub?

My whole point was that I don't think I would want to be involved in a PPP in the first place so it would never even come to that. But, if by some chance I got over my anxiety about germs and somebody handed me a slimy smoke, then I would most certainly decline and possibly comment on the slimy party foul.. in true ball busting fashion.

I just wanted to see what the fuss was about with the PPP, as I had never heard of it in the cigar world before.

Regardless, your response really rubbed me the wrong way, and I don't appreciate being talked down to.

..and you ignored my Japanese, which was polite by the way.

[DaBear]

Just drink lots of liquor and any germs don't have a chance!

or your fears of germs

[CasaDooley]

I have never declined a PPP and would never think ill of someone who did not want to participate. To each their own I say and Hell, if someone does decline, that just means there's more for me!:r

[joeobx]

I try and make sure when Bob passes me a cigar, I wet that son of a bish so he won't want it back
:r:r

Seems kinda gross... but... as long as everyone doesnt slobber all over it:tu

Just drink lots of liquor and any germs don't have a chance!
Works for me

as I had never heard of it in the cigar world before
There no other place in the world like this, thats why they call it the Asylum.:banger


Regardless, your response really rubbed me the wrong way, and I don't appreciate being talked down to.

I really don't think he was talking down to you, I think you started with the "bub" thing, but hey thats the peril of typing, sometimes the emotion you want doesn't come through right.



I've been a member for a little over a year and I can tell you there is no other place like it. There are people on here that will pretty much tell you your favorite smoke is crap (which is ok...leaves more for me) and then turn around and give you the shirt off there back ( most of the time it's in the form of cigars). I know if I'm somewhere and have a chance to try a CC I'm going for it. Hell Iv'e shared hits off bottles of liqueur and you more likely to get some backwash off that than a little moisture off a cigar.

just my :2

[Comedian]

Well, I intended "bub" as a term of endearment.

I also assumed that he can read/write in Japanese because of the Japanese in his signature.. so I typed out something friendly and grammatically respectful due to him being much older than me.

You know what they say about assuming...

I do appreciate everyone's replies.

[icehog3]

I don't do that much P-P-Ping anymore, because my pallete seems to burn out quickly many times when I do, and they are usually at all day or even weekend herfs.

I have participated in many though, and have tried some wonderful rare and old smokes that I never would have had a chance to sample otherwise. Done amongst a small group, you certainly do get a chance to see how the cigar develops, as long as it doesn't get overheated. Experienced P-P-Pers know how to avoid this. And as Dennis said, dry lips, please. ;)

One other thing that I haven't seen mentioned that has been cool about many P-P-Ps has been the contrast between different cigars...truly helped me become better about picking out different flavors and profiles in cigars. Experienced BOTLs seem to become good at deciding which cigars to put into the passes, similar strength levels so that one cigar doesn't overpower everything else in tha pass.

They are a great learning experience, especially for those new to CCs. :2

[maninblack]

Wow. Not sure why this has gone on for 2 pages. No need for the hostility brothers! Can't we all get along?

[icehog3]

Wasn't I nice? :)

[cort]

Wasn't I nice? :)

Extremely:noon


Don't hate on the PPP

[Comedian]

Wasn't I nice? :)

You're Admiral Douche Bag. :D

:sl

[icehog3]

You're Admiral Douche Bag. :D

:sl

Yes I am. :salute:

[maninblack]

Wasn't I nice? :)

Always!

[Comedian]

Yes I am. :salute:

:tf

[icehog3]

:tf

Opinions vary. ;)

[timo]

Never ever once thought about any of this when I was younger and someone passed a joint my way :D

[docdoty]

Just drink lots of liquor and any germs don't have a chance!

X2

[Whee]

I am sensing itchy butt in the near future...:rolleyes:

[joeobx]

:r:r:r

[replicant_argent]

Okay. I know at all these herf events that a lot of you do the puff, puff, pass thing as a way to sample cigars. Correct me if I am mistaken, of course.

Also, for anybody that's ever passed a J around in their youth(or the present;) ), isn't it frustrating when you put the J to your lips only to find somebody has slobbered all over it? This is my dilemma with the PPF.

Enlighten me, please.
Yep, and perhaps your circle of friends needs a towel?

My whole point was that I don't think I would want to be involved in a PPP in the first place so it would never even come to that. But, if by some chance I got over my anxiety about germs and somebody handed me a slimy smoke, then I would most certainly decline and possibly comment on the slimy party foul.. in true ball busting fashion.

I just wanted to see what the fuss was about with the PPP, as I had never heard of it in the cigar world before.

Regardless, your response really rubbed me the wrong way, and I don't appreciate being talked down to.

..and you ignored my Japanese, which was polite by the way.
It sounds like you have a paradigm you either want to change, or reinforce, and uh... sometimes I am at a lack of understanding, being pretty tactless myself.
I am trying to be polite and tactful in English, as I am not fluent in Japanese.

Sometimes when someone is coming across as arrogant, a quick pm defuses the situation quickly, especially when you suddenly realized "Oh Crap, I think that may not have come across as I would have wanted it to." I've done it. Hell, maybe I am doing it now.

[Comedian]

Never ever once thought about any of this when I was younger and someone passed a joint my way :D

:D

I dunno, man... there always seemed to be one guy.. and it was usually the moocher of the group. :dr

[Comedian]

Yep, and perhaps your circle of friends needs a towel?


It sounds like you have a paradigm you either want to change, or reinforce, and uh... sometimes I am at a lack of understanding, being pretty tactless myself.
I am trying to be polite and tactful in English, as I am not fluent in Japanese.

Sometimes when someone is coming across as arrogant, a quick pm defuses the situation quickly, especially when you suddenly realized "Oh Crap, I think that may not have come across as I would have wanted it to." I've done it. Hell, maybe I am doing it now.

What can I say? I'm a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

Point taken, no harm intended. ;s

:tf

[MajorCaptSilly]

I'm Major Captain Silly!


MCS

[icehog3]

I'm Major Captain Silly!


MCS

I'm Hardrock, I'm Coco, I'm Joe!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml4CqQ-cUGM

[Blueface]

I'm Major Captain Silly!


MCS

I'll take a bite of your cake if you pass it around.
I like cake too.

[replicant_argent]

I'll take a bite of your cake if you pass it around.
I like cake too.

didn't I lick some frosting off your PPP stick at the Mega MoB herf, Carlos?
Wait, that was your eyeball.

[cort]

didn't I lick some frosting off your PPP stick at the Mega MoB herf, Carlos?
Wait, that was your eyeball.

Hey Pete.....you make me laugh:r

[mmblz]

I'm not making an issue out of it, bub, just wonderin' what the fuss is all about, that's all.

Regardless, your response really rubbed me the wrong way, and I don't appreciate being talked down to.


whoo-whoo!!!!

[joeobx]

I'll take a bite of your cake if you pass it around.
I like cake too.

I licked the knife between each slice :rolleyes:

[Comedian]

God, you guys are turning me on.

[Sauer Grapes]

To each his own, but I'd hate to miss out on a special moment with a special stick.

Did I read your answer correctly? You sampled a 1970's Pepin? Meaning, you sampled a cigar that the Master Roller blended and rolled himself while he was still in Cuba?
:dr

Color me jealous.

[14holestogie]

Did I read your answer correctly? You sampled a 1970's Pepin? Meaning, you sampled a cigar that the Master Roller blended and rolled himself while he was still in Cuba?
:dr

Color me jealous.

Yes and yes. :) I was as amazed as you were.

There were a lot of happy faces as that thing went around.

[wayner123]

Did I read your answer correctly? You sampled a 1970's Pepin? Meaning, you sampled a cigar that the Master Roller blended and rolled himself while he was still in Cuba?
:dr

Color me jealous.

Yes and yes. :) I was as amazed as you were.

There were a lot of happy faces as that thing went around.

How does one even determine such a thing?

[Whee]

Yes and yes. :) I was as amazed as you were.

There were a lot of happy faces as that thing went around.

and around and around......:D

[HK3-]

Nice Review

[NCRadioMan]

But, if by some chance I got over my anxiety about germs and somebody handed me a slimy smoke, then I would most certainly decline and possibly comment on the slimy party foul.. in true ball busting fashion.



If you're worried about germs, I hope you never handle money, public door knobs or drink from public fountains. Three of the dirtiest, bacteria laden things ever. :r

I have gotten to experience some of the most rare and expensive cigars in the world(most I would never be able to aquire) in ppp's with some of the world's greatest people. I consider myself very lucky.

A few years ago, several of us here participated in a 12 hour ppp. It was one of the best times I have ever had.

[landhoney]

A few years ago, several of us here participated in a 12 hour ppp. It was one of the best times I have ever had.

Also known as the shack herf. ;) :r

The PPP's there were some of my favorite cigar experiences, and not even primarily because of the cigars. The camaraderie experienced was awesome; everyone talking about the same cigars, laughing, discussing, pulling out rare smokes to share (Patrick and I were trying to outdo one another, he won ;):r), "what was this one again?", taking the bands of Dunhill Cabinettas (and the like) and passing it around for everyone to guess what it was, just a lot of fun on top of the good cigars.

I admit to having to overcome the 'slober factor' but it was one of those 'jump in the cold pool' moments, once done it was a pleasure. And now it's no big deal, hey its a PPP, its worth it. :tu

[replicant_argent]

Nice Review

Sorry, I wasn't paying att.



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Nice Avatar, Halbert....

[markem]

Nice Avatar, Halbert....

That's icehog in drag

just sayin

[icehog3]

That's icehog in drag

just sayin

Thank you Gleason.

[mmblz]

If you're worried about germs, I hope you never handle money, public door knobs or drink from public fountains. Three of the dirtiest, bacteria laden things ever. :r

How about ketchup bottles?
Germs rarely cross my mind but when I pick up a ketchup bottle, then immediately pick up a hamburger and start to eat it.... well...

[MajorCaptSilly]

How about ketchup bottles?
Germs rarely cross my mind but when I pick up a ketchup bottle, then immediately pick up a hamburger and start to eat it.... well...

You shouldn't eat ketchup bottles. Stick with the hamburger.


I'm Major Captain Silly

MCS

[Blueface]

If you're worried about germs, I hope you never handle money, public door knobs or drink from public fountains. Three of the dirtiest, bacteria laden things ever. :r


I always laugh silly at the precautions folks take in public bathrooms.
They will use a roll of toilet paper to cover the seat.
Some even use a roll to fill up the bowl so nothing splashes.
On and on.

Well, did any of those geniuses ever stop to consider that when they walked into the stall, and used the lock mechanism to secure the door shut, well................how can I put it, other than bluntly, someone else just used that and they had chit on their hands.:r:r:r

[mosesbotbol]

I always laugh silly at the precautions folks take in public bathrooms.
They will use a roll of toilet paper to cover the seat.
Some even use a roll to fill up the bowl so nothing splashes.
On and on.

Well, did any of those geniuses ever stop to consider that when they walked into the stall, and used the lock mechanism to secure the door shut, well................how can I put it, other than bluntly, someone else just used that and they had chit on their hands.:r:r:r

I gave up on all that after staying in India.

[sikk50]

I remember Grant (Groogs) brought something from the 40's to a Sierra Nevada herf at MOBD's house to PPP. It was during the height of the Swine Flu thing.....It was a delicious cigar, and I'm humbled to have been given the chance to smoke something almost three times my age

[Skywalker]

I always laugh silly at the precautions folks take in public bathrooms.
They will use a roll of toilet paper to cover the seat.
Some even use a roll to fill up the bowl so nothing splashes.
On and on.

Well, did any of those geniuses ever stop to consider that when they walked into the stall, and used the lock mechanism to secure the door shut, well................how can I put it, other than bluntly, someone else just used that and they had chit on their hands.:r:r:r

Oh snap!!!

[replicant_argent]

how can I put it, other than bluntly, someone else just used that and they had chit on their hands.:r:r:r

You remember when I licked your eyeball?



I opened the stall with my mouth five minutes before that.



BTW, my dogs taught me how to drink out of the toilet.

[Ogre]

You remember when I licked your eyeball?



I opened the stall with my mouth five minutes before that.



BTW, my dogs taught me how to drink out of the toilet.

Why doesnt this surprise me???;s

[replicant_argent]

Why doesnt this surprise me???;s

You knew I was learning things from my dog?

Where is the camera?

[Ogre]

You knew I was learning things from my dog?

Where is the camera?

Your dog told me. Where do you think I learned how to do it???

[Blueface]

You remember when I licked your eyeball?



I opened the stall with my mouth five minutes before that.



BTW, my dogs taught me how to drink out of the toilet.

:r

You are a sick man.
I should know.
It takes sickness to recognize sickness.