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BigFrank
11-26-2010, 08:26 PM
Second hand smoke

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/11/26/2010-11-26_secondhand_smoke_kills_600000_people_a_year_stu dy.html

great

nick2021
11-26-2010, 08:34 PM
Personally, I think there are worse things that can kill an individual...after finishing my recent deployment, I thought about this for some time.... I think people lose sight of the bigger picture...just my 2 cents..

hotreds
11-26-2010, 08:35 PM
Everyone who reads the NY Daily News will die.

larryinlc
11-26-2010, 08:38 PM
Not to sound insensitive to those who have suffered, but how many people don't die every year from second hand smoke?

Ken
11-26-2010, 09:08 PM
Ok, so if 600,000 people are dying from second hand smoke shouldn't the amount of people dying from 1st hand smoke be 10 fold. I've always had a hard time buying these numbers. Do they account for polution, family history, or personal health?

Bill86
11-26-2010, 09:22 PM
Who are these 600,000 people that are getting so much 2nd hand smoke THEY DIE. I'm thinking these numbers are completely made up.

There's a million things you can die from...what are you going to do live in a bubble?

MajorCaptSilly
11-26-2010, 09:27 PM
Check out Joe Jackson's take on the secondhand smoke issue. You can download the PDF via the button close to the top of the page:

http://www.joejackson.com/smoking.php


MCS

MedicCook
11-26-2010, 09:39 PM
I plan on dieing from 1st hand smoke.


Did you know the number one cause of death is breathing air? Every person who has every taken a breath of air has died. Maybe we should ban breathing.

forgop
11-26-2010, 09:40 PM
I'm still waiting for scientists to perform a study to determine the overwhelming #1 cause of death: BIRTH.

Subvet642
11-27-2010, 06:24 AM
Ok, so if 600,000 people are dying from second hand smoke shouldn't the amount of people dying from 1st hand smoke be 10 fold. I've always had a hard time buying these numbers. Do they account for polution, family history, or personal health?

Radon?

mosesbotbol
11-27-2010, 06:30 AM
Bunch of BS to say 2nd hand smoked "caused" those deaths. So much for real science and statistics.

BigFrank
11-27-2010, 08:20 AM
Ok, so if 600,000 people are dying from second hand smoke shouldn't the amount of people dying from 1st hand smoke be 10 fold. I've always had a hard time buying these numbers. Do they account for polution, family history, or personal health?

Those were my thoughts exactly. We all know the "research" is probably government funded. So during the next congressional session a new tax will placed on tobacco due to "overwhelming" research in regards to how dangerous tobacco really is!!!

thebayratt
11-27-2010, 08:42 AM
Second hand smoke.......... that may also include those overpopulated areas that have 23gazillion smoke producing vehicles too....
Think about it, you ever see the car infront of you thats smoking more, sitting there, than you do in a whole month? Thats "second hand" smoke too i bet!

People come by me sometimes and say "eww second hand smoke!!" I look at them and say, "Its a free country, so you are free to walk your ass on down the street".

MajorCaptSilly
11-27-2010, 08:51 AM
BTW: My mom smoked 2 packs of cigs a day while pregnant with my brother and I. I'm 6'5'' and he is 6'6''. We lived in secondhand smoke until we moved out of the house. I smoked cigs for about 5 years. I have no problems other than sinus issues because of the way my head is built. The operative word on having health issues from smoking is "predisposed". If you are predisposed to have problems you will. If you show moderation in use and are not predisposed to having problems, your risk is too low to worry about.

MCS

ProBe
11-27-2010, 08:56 AM
I hate BS like this.

MajorCaptSilly
11-27-2010, 09:04 AM
BTW #2: They are using this study to expand already intrusive smoking bans in the US. Indiana is on the bandwagon for a complete ban in public places.


MCS

cmitch
11-27-2010, 09:26 AM
Radon?
And there is NO WAY 600,000 dying from second hand smoke can be proven. However, Radon gas has been linked as the silent killer.

Knip23
11-27-2010, 10:05 AM
Well today in the news, random person gets hit by a car and dies. Mind you they person was not useing the crosswalk, bc someone was smokeing while walking on the crosswalk. Driver 0. 2nd HAND SMOKE +1. :r

Knip.

jonan
11-27-2010, 10:10 AM
I'm still waiting for scientists to perform a study to determine the overwhelming #1 cause of death: BIRTH.

:r lol

SvilleKid
11-27-2010, 11:04 AM
If you read the article carefully, you will see that the 600,000 number is a scientific estimate. It's NOT based on any REAL number, and can't be proven. IMO, just another way for the various money-grabbers to scare everyone into doing what they want. Just like the smoking bans based on "second-hand" smoke are ALL base on one, single study from the past, that has never been proven as true in any subsequent studies!! It's ALL based on what some PAID scientist said, and I have NO respect for scientist these days. Too much that is called scientific fact is simply a scientist who is paid to achieve a stated conclusion!!!!

TonySmith
11-27-2010, 11:08 AM
135 million didn't die from second hand smoke this year

NCRadioMan
11-27-2010, 12:59 PM
Total BS and mis-informed junk science. Good thing nobody reads that rag. lol

icehog3
11-27-2010, 01:23 PM
16 people die from second hand Gurkha smoke every day.

NCRadioMan
11-27-2010, 01:39 PM
16 people die from second hand Gurkha smoke every day.

THAT, I can believe! :r

MajorCaptSilly
11-27-2010, 01:45 PM
16 people die from second hand Gurkha smoke every day.

43 others are rendered unable to enjoy a good cigar as their tastebuds are numbed.

MCS

Educator
11-28-2010, 12:05 AM
Personally, I think there are worse things that can kill an individual...after finishing my recent deployment, I thought about this for some time.... I think people lose sight of the bigger picture...just my 2 cents..

I'm with you...When I came back from the desert in '91 my perspective had changed on a lot of things.

Wanger
11-28-2010, 10:20 AM
As for the "science" behind such studies goes, it really depends on the true focus of the study. Were they looking to find a link between exposure to second hand smoke and death? Were they trying to find the link between a persons death and 2nd hand smoke? Also, who wasthe major financier for the study? The gov't funds a LOT more studies than people realize. There are MILLIONS of dollars in government grants out there that most people don't even realize are out there. A lot of it is tied to pork projects, too.

cmitch
11-28-2010, 12:08 PM
If you read the article carefully, you will see that the 600,000 number is a scientific estimate. It's NOT based on any REAL number, and can't be proven. IMO, just another way for the various money-grabbers to scare everyone into doing what they want. Just like the smoking bans based on "second-hand" smoke are ALL base on one, single study from the past, that has never been proven as true in any subsequent studies!! It's ALL based on what some PAID scientist said, and I have NO respect for scientist these days. Too much that is called scientific fact is simply a scientist who is paid to achieve a stated conclusion!!!!
I couldn't concentrate on your post because I couldn't stop staring at the Christmas chick in your avatar. Soooo, I quoted it so I could read it.:D

DBall
11-28-2010, 03:04 PM
Meanwhile, 100% of people die from living.

thebayratt
11-28-2010, 07:58 PM
I saw somewhere a funny saying, something like; All these health nuts trying to live healthy.... all to end up in a hospital diing of nothing!

Jack Straw
11-28-2010, 09:02 PM
What a bunch of idiots. And the sad part is people eat this crap up.

Ken
11-30-2010, 10:10 PM
BTW #2: They are using this study to expand already intrusive smoking bans in the US. Indiana is on the bandwagon for a complete ban in public places.

Jeffersonville did it just because Louisville, Ky did it.:bh New Albany looks to possibly follow the blinded herd.


Radon?
:tu

Meanwhile, 100% of people die from living.
In the words of The Tick, "Can't argue with that."

Educator
12-02-2010, 12:31 AM
I just noticed today on a billboard locally it only said 500,000...we must be doing a lot better. eh?

icehog3
12-02-2010, 12:33 AM
I just noticed today on a billboard locally it only said 500,000...we must be doing a lot better. eh?

We just saved 100,000 lives!! :wo

GreekGodX
12-02-2010, 03:28 AM
We just saved 100,000 lives!! :wo

I'll smoke to that :banger