Just registered to get my Concealed Handgun License

[hammondc]

Anyone else in here pack heat? :gn

[357]

I've had my CPL since 2002. I was only 23 when I got mine. Gunboard didn't like me being so young but, Michigan had passed a shall-issue law the year before. Since my record was clean they had no choice but to issue it to me. In my defense, I haven't gone on any shooting sprees yet.

:gn

[MiamiE]

Since 2005.

[hammondc]

Nice! My wife and I both had ours in S.C. but could not transfer that to Texas so we have to take it all over again. Texas CHL class is a LOT LOT LOT more intensive that S.C. The classs is 8-6 on Nov 20. That will be a long day.

[68TriShield]

No.I live in a communist state.

[elderboy02]

Yes sir! :gn

[xlc12rf]

Been interested in getting mine. Keep putting it off.

[Apoco]

I wouldn't dare disclose such information!

But maybe ;)
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[macms]

If we would only ban guns crime would diminish greatly. To many crazies running around scaring the sheeple to ever make me support having guns in there hands, but cigar smokers scare me the most!




























I kid...I kid...I kid :r :r :r :r

To answer your question, yes.

[Smokin Gator]

Of course!!

[ucla695]

Nearly impossible in Los Angeles. :(

[neoflex]

One of the first things I did when I moved to NC. My carry weapon is a Springfield Champion Lightweight 1911(.45).
What's the wait for them these days? I know before Obama you could get your permit in a few weeks here in NC after completing the classes. After Obama everyone freaked and it became 3 months.

[mike]

gotta love CCW, and yes I do carry.

[gunbuyer76]

License to carry firearms in PA since my 21st birthday, got my license and carry gun many many hours before my first beer, first carry gun s&w 4006 former mass state troopers weapon, wish i still had that pistol

[357]

Nearly impossible in Los Angeles. :(

Unless you're life is more important than your constituants... (Dianne Feinstein)

[G G]

I wouldn't dare disclose such information!

But maybe ;)
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Same

[hammondc]

omy carry weapon is a springfield champion lightweight 1911(.45).


nice!

[ucla695]

Unless you're life is more important than your constituants... (Dianne Feinstein)

Tell me about it. Total hypocrisy....Do as I say, not as I do. :fl

[bigpedunn]

2 years now!!!!!!!

[icehog3]

They don't have concealed carry in my state, but I carry anyway.

[replicant_argent]

We have carry permits here.
You don't have to conceal. Which is a nice thing if the wind happens to blow your windbreaker or coat away. In some conceal states, that would cause you a "problem."

And while I live in the "Nawth," the idea of a BBQ gun amuses me. Not that I have one of those.

[357]

Tell me about it. Total hypocrisy....Do as I say, not as I do. :fl

An article I read stated that her reasoning behind it was because she received some personal terrorist threats.

So, let me get this straight. She had a personal security detail and she still needed a CCW? Wow, a CCW must be more effective than most gun banners thought. Oh wait, she's a gun banner. What a paradox.

If they aren't effective at preventing harm/crime, then why get one?

If they are effective, why can't everyone else get one?

:tpd:

[357]

We have carry permits here.
You don't have to conceal. Which is a nice thing if the wind happens to blow your windbreaker or coat away. In some conceal states, that would cause you a "problem."

And while I live in the "Nawth," the idea of a BBQ gun amuses me. Not that I have one of those.

Michigan allows both open and concealed carry. The interesting part is the combination of having the CPL and choosing to open carry removes some of the restrictions on where you can carry.


http://dev.miopencarry.org/Attachments/MI_Open_Carry_Letter_to_LEOs.PDF

Recently it has been opined by the AG opinion, the MSP (Michigan State Police) and Senator Prusi that persons with a CPL can carry a firearm
openly in the exempted areas listed in MCL 750.234d.

Michigan MCL 750.234d
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(2k1ghd55gntbx3451h55h2fi))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-234d

750.234d Possession of firearm on certain premises prohibited; applicability; violation as misdemeanor; penalty.

Sec. 234d.

(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
(a) A depository financial institution or a subsidiary or affiliate of a depository financial institution.
(b) A church or other house of religious worship.
(c) A court.
(d) A theatre.
(e) A sports arena.
(f) A day care center.
(g) A hospital.
(h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.

(2) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(a) A person who owns, or is employed by or contracted by, an entity described in subsection (1) if the possession of that firearm is to provide security services for that entity.
(b) A peace officer.
(c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon.
(d) A person who possesses a firearm on the premises of an entity described in subsection (1) if that possession is with the permission of the owner or an agent of the owner of that entity.

(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both.

[loki]

License to carry firearms in PA since my 21st birthday, got my license and carry gun many many hours before my first beer, first carry gun s&w 4006 former mass state troopers weapon, wish i still had that pistol

i've got mine from buttler county. Good to see ya call it by the right name

[sikk50]

I've been wanting to get mine for a long time, but I also want to go into law enforcement after graduating. I've had several background investigators tell me it comes up as a red flag if you have a concealed care permit during backgrounds. So....I wait

[replicant_argent]

We can't carry in a fed. courthouse/ courthouse complexes, school/daycare (unless excepted by the owner/principal), jails/correctional facilities/state hospitals, post offices, or in the restricted area of the airport. Other than that, it is fair game. The State capital requires you give them notice via a registered letter so you can be put "on the list." And while private businesses and such "can" post "appropriate signage" banning guns on the premises, it is only illegal if A. They make you. B. They subsequently ask you to leave. C. You DON"T leave. (and considering the requirements for getting the permit, and the typical permit holders adherence to laws, only the INCREDIBLY rare and stupid case would happen). It is a misdemeanor under MN law.

[357]

Here's the Michigan AG Opinion referenced...

http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10188.htm

It is my opinion, therefore, that a uniformed reserve police officer acting as an unpaid volunteer for a local police agency may carry an exposed, holstered pistol within the gun-free zones established by the Concealed Pistol Licensing Act; and if the officer is either a fully authorized "peace officer" or, alternatively, possesses a valid concealed pistol license issued under the Concealed Pistol Licensing Act, he or she may also carry an exposed, holstered pistol within the gun-free zones established by the Michigan Penal Code.

[GTsetGO]

mostly definitely

my carry pistol is a Springfield xd .40 subcompact.

:D

[docdoty]

mostly definitely

my carry pistol is a Springfield xd .40 subcompact.

:D

I carry the exact same gun. mine is the OD green with black. I love it.

[bigswol2]

got mine at 21 and never looked back. I'm carrying the Para-Ordinance Warthog. in 45.

[hammondc]

Nice guns folks. I will be looking for another carry gun after the first of the year. I want to go to Drurys here in SA and try out a BUNCH. I am initially thinking about a Kimber.

[loki]

Nice guns folks. I will be looking for another carry gun after the first of the year. I want to go to Drurys here in SA and try out a BUNCH. I am initially thinking about a Kimber.

keep thinking. kimber QC sucks

[neoflex]

got mine at 21 and never looked back. I'm carrying the Para-Ordinance Warthog. in 45.

I love that gun.:tu

[neoflex]

I've been wanting to get mine for a long time, but I also want to go into law enforcement after graduating. I've had several background investigators tell me it comes up as a red flag if you have a concealed care permit during backgrounds. So....I wait

Hmmm, I wonder why??? I would think it would be reverse.

[Martel]

You guys that can get yours easily, count your blessings. Here in MD it's a real problem... unless you're politically connected, handle large amounts of cash or pharmaceuticals, or own your own business, forget it. If I weren't a business owner, I'd be SOL.

Cheers,
G

[Stevez]

I have been wanting to do this for a long time and the laws here in Kentucky are pretty liberal, so that's not a problem. Every time I think about going through the class, I think, well, I probably wouldn't even carry it much. It seems that you are so limited where you can carry one, that it isn't much worth it. But, this thread made me reach out to an instructor today when I read it, so, I'll be scheduling soon. Steve

[sikk50]

Hmmm, I wonder why??? I would think it would be reverse.

I have no clue. Its one of those, "why did you need that?" kinda things. Coincidently being a security officer or bouncer is a red flag too. Weird little things, so I just try to keep my nose clean as possible since I have a crap driving record

[DPD6030]

Yup, I carry most of the time.

[nozero]

I wouldn't dare disclose such information!

But maybe ;)
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I agree with ^.

[357]

Nice guns folks. I will be looking for another carry gun after the first of the year. I want to go to Drurys here in SA and try out a BUNCH. I am initially thinking about a Kimber.

Got my Custom Stainless II in 2002 and LOVE it. I shot every type of semi-auto they had at the local range who rented handguns. Fell in love with the 1911 style, and more specifically the Kimber.

[357]

keep thinking. kimber QC sucks

I disgree. When I bought mine in '02, Kimber was the only manufacturer that published the tolerances they machined to. Think about that, it takes guts, cause there are hundreds of places who could check/disprove your quality if they know what specs you're machining to.

[loki]

I disgree. When I bought mine in '02, Kimber was the only manufacturer that published the tolerances they machined to. Think about that, it takes guts, cause there are hundreds of places who could check/disprove your quality if they know what specs you're machining to.
they used to have good QC but not anymore

[Martel]

Not sure about now, but I've had a Kimber for about 10 years that is superb.

Cheers,
G

[Ranger_B]

Taking my fiancée to the range at 0730 tomorrow to start training her up. The course here doesn't do much as far as getting you truly ready. But hey I can fix that for her. She is excited. We just finished loading our mags for tomorrow. Congrats, its a heavy responsibility however one that I feel is needed.

[hammondc]

keep thinking. kimber QC sucks

Really? I always thought of them as a top notch gun. I know it is no Ed Brown or Nighthawk Custom, but I always thought different. Have you had a particularly bad experience?

[hammondc]

Got my Custom Stainless II in 2002 and LOVE it. I shot every type of semi-auto they had at the local range who rented handguns. Fell in love with the 1911 style, and more specifically the Kimber.

That is one model I looked at. I love the 1911 style, but they seem like they could be bulky to carry. I am not a big guy at about 5'8" and 170lb. I handled one of THESE (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411542891) and Loved it. I really like the bobtail.

[357]

That is one model I looked at. I love the 1911 style, but they seem like they could be bulky to carry. I am not a big guy at about 5'8" and 170lb. I handled one of THESE (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411542891) and Loved it. I really like the bobtail.

This is the key...

Width (inches): 1.28

1911s are slim and easy to carry with an IWB (Inside the Waist Band) holster. You don't have to be huge to carry them, especially the shorter barrel models (3.5-4.25 inch barrels).

If I was going to buy another one it would be the CDP Pro (4.25 inch barrel).
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/cdp/pro_cdp_II/

http://www.kimberamerica.com/images/products/pistols/cdp/large_pro_cdp_II.jpg

I love the "melted" look they have. No sharp edges, all corners smoothed/rounded. Makes for no snags when drawing. Plus it has an aluminum alloy frame with a satin (low-gloss) stainless steel slide, Tritium 3-dot night sight, an ambi-safety, and weighs only 28oz. They can be had for much less than the MSRP of $1318.

[replicant_argent]

That Kimber is very nice looking. My solution only weighs 15.9 oz. (6 or 7 rd cap)compared to the 28 oz. (7 rd cap) of the Kimber. It is only 9mm though. The .45 version is only 19.3 oz (5 rd)... Much easier to carry every day.
That being said, I would absolutely like a 1911 option, for varietys sake.
http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=61 that one has tempted me a couple of times. I would like to shoot one. 24 ounces, 6 cap, Commander sized.. me likey.

[Martel]

I am as big a fan of 1911's as anyone, my favorite autoloader design by far... but it bears mentioning that cocked and locked carry may not be for everyone. If you practice on a regular basis, are intimately familiar with the handgun, and your gun handling skills are impeccable, go for it. More casual users may be better served with a D/A auto or a wheelgun. :2

Cheers,
G

[replicant_argent]

That Kimber is very nice looking. My solution only weighs 15.9 oz. (6 or 7 rd cap)compared to the 28 oz. (7 rd cap) of the Kimber. It is only 9mm though. The .45 version is only17.3 oz (5 rd)... Much easier to carry every day.
That being said, I would absolutely like a 1911 option, for varietys sake.
http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=61 that one has tempted me a couple of times. I would like to shoot one. 24 ounces, 6 cap, Commander sized.. me likey.

correction on weight.

[357]

That Kimber is very nice looking. My solution only weighs 15.9 oz. (6 or 7 rd cap)compared to the 28 oz. (7 rd cap) of the Kimber. It is only 9mm though. The .45 version is only 19.3 oz (5 rd)... Much easier to carry every day.
That being said, I would absolutely like a 1911 option, for varietys sake.
http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=61 that one has tempted me a couple of times. I would like to shoot one. 24 ounces, 6 cap, Commander sized.. me likey.

I understand the weight advantage. BTW, the full size grips (on the Pro carry 4.25 inch barrel & 5 inch barrel) accomodate an 8 rd mag without protruding. Plus 1911s are designed to be carried cocked & locked meaning you have a round in the chamber. So, my Kimber is carried with 8+1. I know this adds to the weight, but it is also decent capacity for a single stack pistol.

I too love variety. My next handgun purchase will probably be a wheelgun, then maybe a little pocket semi-auto.

The 1911s fit my hand so perfectly. The only other pistol I've held that rivals that feel is the Walther PPK. But, my favorite feature of the 1911 is that super smooth single-action trigger.

[Brian D.]

In the 1911 family my favorite to carry is the lightweight (Gov't size) 5 incher. (I have a pair of the "Loaded" series from Springfield Armory.) However I do most of my practice with an all steel version, more often than not one of my Norinco 1911s.

Also have a small batch of Browning Hi Powers, a pair of each in both 9mm and .40 S&W calibers. I recommend the Mark III version in either matte finish or the Practical Model, if you can find them. While the blued ones are very pretty, that finish just doesn't hold up to carry in warm/wet weather. The BHP's are single action, but the triggers aren't quite as crisp as the 1911.

When traveling to places that the predators come bigger/deadlier than people, I opt for the Glock model 20 in 10mm. Pretty good combination of weight and power.

[Martel]

In the 1911 family my favorite to carry is the lightweight (Gov't size) 5 incher. (I have a pair of the "Loaded" series from Springfield Armory.) However I do most of my practice with an all steel version, more often than not one of my Norinco 1911s.

Also have a small batch of Browning Hi Powers, a pair of each in both 9mm and .40 S&W calibers. I recommend the Mark III version in either matte finish or the Practical Model, if you can find them. While the blued ones are very pretty, that finish just doesn't hold up to carry in warm/wet weather. The BHP's are single action, but the triggers aren't quite as crisp as the 1911.

When traveling to places that the predators come bigger/deadlier than people, I opt for the Glock model 20 in 10mm. Pretty good combination of weight and power.

I'm a sucker for Hi-Powers, although I've owned 2 .40's and they were both dogs... luck of the draw, I guess. I have a Mk III and an older Belgian Hi-Power that is a thing of beauty.

Couldn't agree more about the Glock 20! My very favorite Glock, I got one shortly after they were introduced. I put in a Bar-Sto barrel and a set of adjustable Meprolights, and it is pretty great. Accuracy, reliability, light weight, and nearly magnum- level performance. An impressive list of attributes.

Cheers,
G

[357]

I am as big a fan of 1911's as anyone, my favorite autoloader design by far... but it bears mentioning that cocked and locked carry may not be for everyone. If you practice on a regular basis, are intimately familiar with the handgun, and your gun handling skills are impeccable, go for it. More casual users may be better served with a D/A auto or a wheelgun. :2

Cheers,
G



I know many people fear the idea of cocked & locked, but IMO it is safer than a DAO (Double-Action Only) style pistol like a Glock. I know technically speaking Glocks' aren't a true DAO, but that is not the point of my statement. What I mean is they lack a true safety. My Kimber has a thumb safety, and a grip safety that deactivates a firing pin block. Modern 1911s are extremely safe to carry when cocked & locked. Also, I don't feel it is difficult to get used to flicking off the thumb safety while drawing a 1911. The grip safety is natually disengaged and disables the firing pin block. All that, and you get a very nice consistent trigger pull. The thing I don't like about D/S (Double-Single) action pistols like Sig's is that the first round (most important one) is a long hard double action pull, and each one after that is a light singled action pull. DAO pistols are consistent, but still a long and heavy trigger. That said I don't dislike D/S or DAO pistols, it's just something to think about before choosing a carry gun.

[357]

I'm a sucker for Hi-Powers, although I've owned 2 .40's and they were both dogs... luck of the draw, I guess. I have a Mk III and an older Belgian Hi-Power that is a thing of beauty.

Couldn't agree more about the Glock 20! My very favorite Glock, I got one shortly after they were introduced. I put in a Bar-Sto barrel and a set of adjustable Meprolights, and it is pretty great. Accuracy, reliability, light weight, and nearly magnum- level performance. An impressive list of attributes.

Cheers,
G

A fellow inmate brought his Glock 20 to the range at a pre-herf shoot around and I really enjoyed shooting it. That 10mm round is potent but manageable in that pistol.

[detroitpha357]

I've had my CPL since 2002. I was only 23 when I got mine. Gunboard didn't like me being so young but, Michigan had passed a shall-issue law the year before. Since my record was clean they had no choice but to issue it to me. In my defense, I haven't gone on any shooting sprees yet.

:gn

&please dont, I dont want to have to come get u. Ps: get at me for your renewal & ill do it for free....

[detroitpha357]

A fellow inmate brought his Glock 20 to the range at a pre-herf shoot around and I really enjoyed shooting it. That 10mm round is potent but manageable in that pistol.

I know someone selling one if u like I can get u the details.

[Martel]

I know many people fear the idea of cocked & locked, but IMO it is safer than a DAO (Double-Action Only) style pistol like a Glock. I know technically speaking Glocks' aren't a true DAO, but that is not the point of my statement. What I mean is they lack a true safety. My Kimber has a thumb safety, and a grip safety that deactivates a firing pin block. Modern 1911s are extremely safe to carry when cocked & locked. Also, I don't feel it is difficult to get used to flicking off the thumb safety while drawing a 1911. The grip safety is natually disengaged and disables the firing pin block. All that, and you get a very nice consistent trigger pull. The thing I don't like about D/S (Double-Single) action pistols like Sig's is that the first round (most important one) is a long hard double action pull, and each one after that is a light singled action pull. DAO pistols are consistent, but still a long and heavy trigger. That said I don't dislike D/S or DAO pistols, it's just something to think about before choosing a carry gun.

I pretty much agree with all of this. My point is only that repetitious practice is required to make flicking off the safety a reflex action in a high stress situation, and applying the safety when required. For my own use, I prefer the 1911 format to all others... I don't consider it to be unsafe practice to carry cocked and locked for a dedicated and well practiced shooter; but I fear that someone who carries but does not shoot or dry fire a lot, or the police officer with no interest in guns beyond twice yearly qualifying, may not incorporate the necessary "muscle memory" to operate a SA auto effectively and safely. :2

Cheers,
G

[elderboy02]

A fellow inmate brought his Glock 20 to the range at a pre-herf shoot around and I really enjoyed shooting it. That 10mm round is potent but manageable in that pistol.

I am glad you enjoyed shooting it :gn

[357]

&please dont, I dont want to have to come get u. Ps: get at me for your renewal & ill do it for free....

My wife took the class some time ago and has thought about applying for her CPL, but we have moved since then and I'm not sure where the certificate is. She may have to retake it if she can't find it. If that's the case, I'll be in touch.

[detroitpha357]

My wife took the class some time ago and has thought about applying for her CPL, but we have moved since then and I'm not sure where the certificate is. She may have to retake it if she can't find it. If that's the case, I'll be in touch.

Ok let me know and ill take care of her no problem. Ok let's stop thread jacking.

[bigswol2]

I am glad you enjoyed shooting it :gn

The glock 20 is sweet. I have the S&W 1066 and it's a jewel. The 10mm is a stout round.

[hammondc]

Well...all done. Scored 100% on the shooting proficiency test and missed one trick question on the written test. 8-6 is a LONG day, but I am glad it is over. Now...the new pistola search commences.

[RGD.]

Well...all done. Scored 100% on the shooting proficiency test and missed one trick question on the written test. 8-6 is a LONG day, but I am glad it is over. Now...the new pistola search commences.


Good for you. Seems like an awful lot to go through. Living in the Commonwealth of Virginia does have it's benefits I guess. All I ever did years ago was fill out a form and pay my money.


Ron

[Sauer Grapes]

Good for you. Seems like an awful lot to go through. Living in the Commonwealth of Virginia does have it's benefits I guess. All I ever did years ago was fill out a form and pay my money.


Ron

I had to go to a 4 hour course in the evening, pass a test and then take the certificate to the courthouse with my notarized and filled out application and certain types of ID. Then I got fingerprinted and they got back to me in about a month.

It's amazing how different two counties that border each other can be.

[hammondc]

Yeah..TX does not have a difficult process. It is just a long one. Turns out TX is very pro CHL. The rights are very much on the side of the carrier. Very glad I did it.

[Wolfgang]

I applied for my permit instead of drinking on my 21st birthday. 5 days later my lisence came in the mail. I love Florida. Ive been carrying everywhere but school and work for 2 years now.

[druturn]

I applied for my permit instead of drinking on my 21st birthday.

That is exactly my plan for my 21st coming up in a few months. First thing the morning of my 21st, I will be mailing in my application from New Orleans(where I will be spending my spring break, which falls directly on my 21st :) ), then I will drink myself silly. lol

[loki]

Yeah..TX does not have a difficult process. It is just a long one. Turns out TX is very pro CHL. The rights are very much on the side of the carrier. Very glad I did it.

now if you guys could just get on with passing open carry, or at least decriminalizing it

[RGD.]

I had to go to a 4 hour course in the evening, pass a test and then take the certificate to the courthouse with my notarized and filled out application and certain types of ID. Then I got fingerprinted and they got back to me in about a month.

It's amazing how different two counties that border each other can be.

Maybe it was because of my prior military - I did submit a copy of my DD214. It was right after they passed the bill to allow it so it's been awhile.

I thought you were military, air force or something?


Ron

[hammondc]

Packet went out in the mail today. Hoping to have my plastic by Christmas.

[MTB996]

1911 for me. :banger

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa68/mtb996/guns/IMAG0285.jpg

[bvilchez]

I had mine when I was stationed in Quantico, VA. Now that I'm in Cali the law varies by county and it's governed by them as well.

[hammondc]

1911 for me. :banger

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa68/mtb996/guns/IMAG0285.jpg

Is that a Dan Wesson?

[MTB996]

Is that a Dan Wesson?

Yep, new VBob. Absolutely incredible pistol. Accuracy, reliability, feel, everything is beyond my expectations.

[hammondc]

Damn I love those guns. I have handled one and was beyond impressed. Way too rich for my blood though.

[hammondc]

And....CHL license in the mail today. 25 days total turnaround. Time for a new pistola.

[Bill86]

1911 for me. :banger

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa68/mtb996/guns/IMAG0285.jpg

Haha dude....my brother has that EXACT same pistol. I've shot it a few times, HELL of a gun. :tu

[Zeuceone]

No.I live in a communist state.

Nearly impossible in Los Angeles. :(

You two shoulde look into Calguns.net and the CGF. They are making big changes in the way departments issue CCW. In California a lot of the requirements for a CCW are against the law. They are actually pushing for people from every county to contact them.

[druturn]

Just passed my shooting qualification for my CHL. Made a 248 out of 250 with my XD 9mm :)

[hammondc]

Just passed my shooting qualification for my CHL. Made a 248 out of 250 with my XD 9mm :)


Well done. :banger

[357]

Congrats. Love those 1911 pics. Local smoke shop is actually offering CCW classes. For Michigan BOTLs, if Booker isn't available, check out Cigar Factory Outlet. I just got an e-mail from them about how they are hosting the class later this month.