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Trouble
10-20-2010, 08:22 PM
My friend lives in Canada and was just gifted a Cohiba. I have attached a pic. Can you tell me if it appears to be authentic? Any ideas as to how old it is? What the value is?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

LasciviousXXX
10-20-2010, 08:25 PM
What is the length? RG? The 2004 Cohiba EL was a Sublime. What size is this one? Do you have a pic of the entire cigar?

Etc etc, more questions than answers :tu

Oh... and my guess on age would be 2004 :r lol

bobarian
10-20-2010, 08:26 PM
2004 Sublime should measure 54x164

markem
10-20-2010, 08:30 PM
The script, especially on Cuba, seems off.

http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/images%5CCohiba_band_1069150829full.jpg

Nathan King
10-20-2010, 08:51 PM
It looks like a genuine post-June '03 to me. Many of the fakes only have two rows of squares above the word "Cohiba." The brand name is gold with the raised lettering.

The genuine band:

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/contentimage/cao/Counterfeit/cohiba_genuine.gif

Fake bands:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/msc_cao/counterfeit/ctr_4c6b1e4561175.gif
http://s3.amazonaws.com/msc_cao/counterfeit/ctr_4c6b1e1fc1d99.gif

Pilon
10-20-2010, 09:16 PM
Looks good to me, smoke it up tell us how it is.

Eleven
10-20-2010, 09:27 PM
Looks good to me, smoke it up tell us how it is.

:tpd:

kydsid
10-20-2010, 09:36 PM
Nope its a fake. You can tell because the flower arrangement isn't centered on the pillow. That is a cheap knockoff that is actually dangerous because they have been know to spontaneously combust when you put your head on the pillow. It also has melamine. No idea about the other object with the weird label.

Sauer Grapes
10-20-2010, 09:45 PM
One, is it triple capped? Two, do you have the measurements? Three, can you take more pictures of the band?

sikk50
10-20-2010, 09:52 PM
It's a real cigar, that much I know for sure :r

akumushi
10-20-2010, 10:55 PM
Provenance would help, as in where did the gifter get it from? A friend that has a cousin in Cuba, or a well established B&M in Canada? And is the original gifter a well versed cigar enthusiast that can afford to routinely gift out cigars worth $100+. The C in Cuba has a curly-q that breaks the bottom of the C, a big tip off toward it being a counterfeit, and the EL band looks a little funky. The cap looks pretty rounded and poorly constructed. Keep in mind the Cohiba DC 2004 EL is one of the MOST commonly counterfeited Cuban cigars. If the provenance were good on this I would chalk those inconsitencies off to it being from Cuba and sh!t happens, but unless you KNOW that it came from somebody who has a lot of experience with high end CCs I wouldn't get your hopes up.
;s

Trouble
10-21-2010, 06:46 AM
That is the only pic I have but he did say it has a double cap not triple. Is that a dead give away that it is fake?

vinnyvega
10-21-2010, 06:47 AM
If you look closely at the "C" in Cuba, it tells it all.

jmsremax
10-21-2010, 06:50 AM
That is the only pic I have but he did say it has a double cap not triple. Is that a dead give away that it is fake?

From what I heard/read double cap is one way of knowing whether it is fake. :2

Another reason why purchasing cuban cigars can be so stressful. :td

massphatness
10-21-2010, 07:06 AM
That is the only pic I have but he did say it has a double cap not triple. Is that a dead give away that it is fake?

I'm going to vote yes

wayner123
10-21-2010, 07:09 AM
If you look closely at the "C" in Cuba, it tells it all.

This is all that needs to be said. :tpd:

vinnyvega
10-21-2010, 09:15 AM
This is all that needs to be said. :tpd:

I thought so...

mosesbotbol
10-21-2010, 09:33 AM
Does not look like a Sublime from the picture.

Mugen910
10-21-2010, 09:43 AM
It was a gift..smoke it and enjoy..only worry about that stuff if you paid for it.

poker
10-21-2010, 10:03 AM
Honestly I personally cannot tell and be 100% confident from just that 1 picture.

Trouble
10-21-2010, 10:11 AM
The guy that gave it to him said it was worth $250

LasciviousXXX
10-21-2010, 10:21 AM
The guy that gave it to him said it was worth $250

Ummmm yeah DEFINITELY not. Even if it were a genuine '04 Cohiba EL, FMV would put them at about $40-$45 range per stick.

$250 would be in the Dunhill range or something far more vintage or exotic than an EL.

BloodSpite
10-21-2010, 10:24 AM
Ummmm yeah DEFINITELY not. .

Maybe it's Canadian dollars?

I know the exchange rate isn't anywhere near that :tu But those darn Canadians give'em a few Labatts and everything is worth $250 ;)

akumushi
10-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Seeing that after tax you can easily pay $30-40 for a siglo VI in Canada, that price sounds expensive, but not as insane as was stated.

jmsremax
10-21-2010, 02:04 PM
Fake or not when are you going to smoke it? I'm curious to know what you think of it.

Garbandz
10-22-2010, 09:22 AM
It's the thought that counts,thank him and smoke it........

Trouble
10-22-2010, 09:30 AM
It was gifted to a friend of mine. He is going to smoke it but was curious about the cigar.