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PCR
09-18-2010, 09:41 PM
Bought four of these last month, all four have crapped out alreday. :tpd:

kelmac07
09-18-2010, 09:45 PM
Bought four of these last month, all four have crapped out alreday. :tpd:

WOW...have been using one for almost a year now. Only use around the house, but still...purge and refill and she works like a champ.

md4958
09-18-2010, 09:47 PM
kinda odd that four lighters would crap out... perhaps you just need to purge them?

PCR
09-18-2010, 10:02 PM
WOW...have been using one for almost a year now. Only use around the house, but still...purge and refill and she works like a champ.

Funny, I did that too, refilled with Ronson fluid... still not woking. Time for a Blazer.

mobarbq
09-18-2010, 10:03 PM
I did learn something about butane operations from refilling mine. I am by no means a butane expert, but I have learned that if you are not getting some sidespray and/or having the main chamber unit get very cold, you are probably not getting any fuel down inside the unit. You just think you are filling it, but you aren't-it isn't working. I think their input valve is not the same as it used to be. I initially thought mine had crapped out too, but it almost seemed like the input valve was either defective or had something inside it plugging it up. (Maybe some wax or something they put on it at the time of manufacture to protect it during shipping?) After playing with it, you should be or begin hearing an audible hiss when it is filling up and then the "overspray" of the butane escaping from around the intake valve will start freezing your fingers, etc. That means the lighter is full, having reached maximum capacity. Immediately stop and wait a full 30 minutes before trying to ignite the lighter. If you try to immediately use it, it will not work (and you will accordingly think it has crapped out on you). That's the story on how my ordeal went; got mine about a month ago. Wasn't easy to find.
Mine's doing great now. **NOTE** it does suck the juice. Don't be surprised if you can only get about 4-5 cigars lit up out of each fill, and maybe less if you have to do a lot of relighting or burn corrections during the course of your firing-off.

icehog3
09-18-2010, 10:08 PM
Funny, I did that too, refilled with Ronson fluid... still not woking. Time for a Blazer.

Ronson fuel blows....try Vector. ;)

SmokeyJoe
09-18-2010, 10:09 PM
I have had better results using higher quality butane... at least triple refined. I have one that is almost three years old that still works well.

Of course, they are inexpensive and it is possible to get a bad one every now and then. Sorry you have had trouble with three of them.

And by the way, even some of the expensive ones crap out too. Hope you are able to get a good one! :tu

PCR
09-18-2010, 10:18 PM
I did learn something about butane operations from refilling mine. I am by no means a butane expert, but I have learned that if you are not getting some sidespray and/or having the main chamber unit get very cold, you are probably not getting any fuel down inside the unit. You just think you are filling it, but you aren't-it isn't working. I think their input valve is not the same as it used to be. I initially thought mine had crapped out too, but it almost seemed like the input valve was either defective or had something inside it plugging it up. (Maybe some wax or something they put on it at the time of manufacture to protect it during shipping?) After playing with it, you should be or begin hearing an audible hiss when it is filling up and then the "overspray" of the butane escaping from around the intake valve will start freezing your fingers, etc. That means the lighter is full, having reached maximum capacity. Immediately stop and wait a full 30 minutes before trying to ignite the lighter. If you try to immediately use it, it will not work (and you will accordingly think it has crapped out on you). That's the story on how my ordeal went; got mine about a month ago. Wasn't easy to find.
Mine's doing great now. **NOTE** it does suck the juice. Don't be surprised if you can only get about 4-5 cigars lit up out of each fill, and maybe less if you have to do a lot of relighting or burn corrections during the course of your firing-off.

Ah ha, maybe I am just going through a lot of butane and not filling correctly... time to experiment. We shall see here. Thanks everyone.
However this is a good excuse to buy another lighter. :xxx

bobarian
09-18-2010, 10:37 PM
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

Great lighters. About $2 each delivered, when you buy 3

PCR
09-18-2010, 10:45 PM
Maybe I'll just use my work torch...

jaycarla
09-18-2010, 11:05 PM
Ronson fuel blows....try Vector. ;)

I have about 15 Ronsons scattered all over the house, camper, and truck. Love them. Only use Vector in them. In 4 years have only had one go bad.

icehog3
09-18-2010, 11:18 PM
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

Great lighters. About $2 each delivered, when you buy 3

Absolutely....but use Vector is those, too. ;)

LostAbbott
09-19-2010, 12:41 AM
Are you able to light more cigars with vector fluid over Ronson? Simply put why is it better fluid?

Chingas
09-19-2010, 12:44 AM
Are you able to light more cigars with vector fluid over Ronson? Simply put why is it better fluid?

It's the actual process of refining the fluid. Consider Ronson dirty fuel as opposed to, say, Vector which would be a super clean fuel.

icehog3
09-19-2010, 12:46 AM
It's the actual process of refining the fluid. Consider Ronson dirty fuel as opposed to, say, Vector which would be a super clean fuel.

Yup...Vector is quintuple refined, and doesn't clog lighters like cheap fluid does.

Kreth
09-19-2010, 05:23 AM
Don't be surprised if you can only get about 4-5 cigars lit up out of each fill, and maybe less if you have to do a lot of relighting or burn corrections during the course of your firing-off.
I've seen a lot of similar comments about the Jet Lites. I don't get it. Mine are usually good for about 2-3 weeks, lighting 1-2 cigars per day.
BTW, another good refill tip: Throw the lighter in the freezer after purging for about 5 minutes.
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MiamiE
09-19-2010, 05:43 AM
May I ask what is purging? Never done this with any lighter I've had.

joeobx
09-19-2010, 06:08 AM
I can go at least a week before refilling , thats toasting the foot on 2 cigars a day plus I smoke cigarettes. Sounds like you may not be getting a good fill on them. I use Ronson fuel in mine and haven't had a problem except for every once in a while the burner seems to clog and I take the can of fuel put the nozzle against the burner and blast it for a second....let it sit for a while and it good as new. I think it was Bobarian that told about this. Also I found if you take out the little screw on the bottom you can remove the brass clip around the adjustment screw and get a larger flame.

captain53
09-19-2010, 07:19 AM
I have about 15 Ronsons scattered all over the house, camper, and truck. Love them. Only use Vector in them. In 4 years have only had one go bad.

:tpd: Most reliable lighter I have ever used! Nothing but Vector in my house.

Montano
09-19-2010, 07:58 AM
Bought four of these last month, all four have crapped out alreday. :tpd:
I'm going to get my lawn chair and some popcorn :D

LostAbbott
09-19-2010, 08:19 AM
PCR. where did you get the lighters? I cannot seem to find any in Seattle.

PCR
09-19-2010, 08:33 AM
PCR. where did you get the lighters? I cannot seem to find any in Seattle.

I could not find them up here either. I found a 4 for $24 on e-Bay. Gonna try the good info here from all the brothers. Including Vector.

dwoodward
09-19-2010, 08:44 AM
I got a lot of 12 Jetlite's on Ebay for 40 bucks just a couple weeks ago. Still working on my 1st one, its working like a charm. I also gifted a few, haven't heard of any issues yet.

mobarbq
09-19-2010, 09:03 AM
I looked for mine for over a month and I had about given up. I was told that Wal-Mart carried them, but every store I went to was out. Clerks would say, well, yeah, we used to have some... Well, if you have shopped at Wal-Mart much, you probably notice that any item that does not sell a steady amount, they apparently mark it down and quit carrying it. I found one single lighter in one store, near the registers and it was at the back of a hanging clip. They don't seem to be easy to find. I heard that hardware stores and Walgreens and CVS Drug Stores may have them.

dwoodward
09-19-2010, 09:52 AM
I looked for mine for over a month and I had about given up. I was told that Wal-Mart carried them, but every store I went to was out. Clerks would say, well, yeah, we used to have some... Well, if you have shopped at Wal-Mart much, you probably notice that any item that does not sell a steady amount, they apparently mark it down and quit carrying it. I found one single lighter in one store, near the registers and it was at the back of a hanging clip. They don't seem to be easy to find. I heard that hardware stores and Walgreens and CVS Drug Stores may have them.

It is completely regional. At least, that is what the store manager at one of our 2 stores told me. She knew what I was talking about, which was a relief because everyone else at Walmart apparently has never seen a lighter other than bics. Walgreens here doesn't have them either, its apparently regional with them as well.

RustyShackleford
09-19-2010, 10:36 AM
Wow I am surprised yours stopped working already.

One of my two I have had for about a year and it still fires like a champ every time. The hing on the lid broke but that is no big deal.

The other one I have had for a few months and I have had not problems with it yet.

I have been using vector in mine because that is what I have, a friend of mine has used the rosen fuel in his and had no problems with it yet.

14holestogie
09-19-2010, 10:42 AM
I've been using these almost exclusively over the last couple of years. A little compressed air blown into the jets seems to clear up the jets for me when the burn gets a little shaky.

I, too, usually wear out the hinges long before they die.

DBall
09-19-2010, 12:23 PM
Wow... I've been using my 3 of these for 3 years each... I don't know what is meant by purging and use ronson jet fuel... these things last forever. Bad batch?

:tf

Samsquanch
09-19-2010, 12:28 PM
I found some at the Rite-Aid in Issaquah for a little over $4. We were there randomly grabbing some Coke on our way to a friend's house and I thought I would at least take a look and sure enough, they were there on the end of the aisle with the regular Bic lighters.

PCR. where did you get the lighters? I cannot seem to find any in Seattle.

itzfrank
09-19-2010, 01:13 PM
Maybe some candy?

Smokin Gator
09-19-2010, 02:24 PM
I have a handful of Ronsons scattered around. I used to use Vector in mine, but had a couple fail. I can't remember who it was, but they told me to try Ronson fuel in them. I have used in exclusively in them for a couple of years and have had zero issues. I know that really doesn't make any sense and there is no way I would use it in my good lighters.

Montano
09-19-2010, 02:43 PM
I'm going to get my lawn chair and some popcorn :D

Need more popcorn ;)

awsmith4
09-19-2010, 03:01 PM
Here the CVS and Rite-Aid have plenty of Ronsons but the Wal Mart and Walgreens do not carry them.

Like stated by Tom, I use only Vector (well ok sometimes Lava) in mine and never have issues. Mkae sure you completely purge them, this goes for any lighter, and them fill them with good fuel. Maybe the ones from fleabay came from a bad lot, if so PM me and I'll send you one from the local store.

PCR
09-19-2010, 03:35 PM
Here the CVS and Rite-Aid have plenty of Ronsons but the Wal Mart and Walgreens do not carry them.

Like stated by Tom, I use only Vector (well ok sometimes Lava) in mine and never have issues. Mkae sure you completely purge them, this goes for any lighter, and them fill them with good fuel. Maybe the ones from fleabay came from a bad lot, if so PM me and I'll send you one from the local store.

Thank you! I'd like to give Vector a try (using Ronson now). Can Vector be found at a local B&M or is it an internet buy?

14holestogie
09-19-2010, 03:50 PM
Thank you! I'd like to give Vector a try (using Ronson now). Can Vector be found at a local B&M or is it an internet buy?

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/catDisp.asp?cat=119

CI has Vector.

dwoodward
09-19-2010, 03:53 PM
Thank you! I'd like to give Vector a try (using Ronson now). Can Vector be found at a local B&M or is it an internet buy?
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/catDisp.asp?cat=119

CI has Vector.

CI also sends you 2 cans per order. And the cans are HUGE mind you lol.

Samsquanch
09-19-2010, 03:59 PM
Thank you! I'd like to give Vector a try (using Ronson now). Can Vector be found at a local B&M or is it an internet buy?

I've found Vector locally in the Seattle area, not sure of any cost savings using CI but at least you wouldn't have to pay WA sales tax :banger

dwoodward
09-19-2010, 04:01 PM
I've found Vector locally in the Seattle area, not sure of any cost savings using CI but at least you wouldn't have to pay WA sales tax :banger

My local B&M carries it too... but the single can cost is like $15... So I'd rather get two from CI for less lol.

awsmith4
09-19-2010, 05:14 PM
Local B&Ms carry Vector as well as Williams and Sonoma, the cans may be big but I go through a can every 2 months or so

icehog3
09-19-2010, 05:20 PM
I bought a 4 pack of Vector cans 4 years ago, and I think I have over 2 1/2 cans left. ;)

captain53
09-19-2010, 06:13 PM
My local B&M carries it too... but the single can cost is like $15... So I'd rather get two from CI for less lol.

Damn - the B&M here at the lake is not famous for low prices but I just looked and the sticker on my can says $7.95. Hate to think what you pay for cigars there!:banger

bobarian
09-19-2010, 06:29 PM
Vector is also available at Williams Sonoma stores for about $6-7 a can.

dwoodward
09-19-2010, 06:39 PM
Damn - the B&M here at the lake is not famous for low prices but I just looked and the sticker on my can says $7.95. Hate to think what you pay for cigars there!:banger

It's a usually about 200%+ markup on MRSP on all the cigars they carry. I can get everything waaaay cheaper online.

PCR
09-19-2010, 06:52 PM
Ronson update: I took all four lighters out to the shop, gave the burner area a blast with air from my compressor. Purged, refilled w/Ronson fuel (it's what I have now before the Vector gets here). So far I am getting a nice flame, not screaming strong but enough to toast the foot and light up. Thanks guys for your input and help, I appreciate it. :banger

awsmith4
09-19-2010, 08:28 PM
I bought a 4 pack of Vector cans 4 years ago, and I think I have over 2 1/2 cans left. ;)

I have a bad habit of touching up even the slightest burn imperfection as well as often forgetting I'm smoking causing constant relights. I can easily drain a lighter in a night or two. Then there is my table lighter which holds a damn near half can.

dwoodward
09-20-2010, 12:37 AM
Ronson update: I took all four lighters out to the shop, gave the burner area a blast with air from my compressor. Purged, refilled w/Ronson fuel (it's what I have now before the Vector gets here). So far I am getting a nice flame, not screaming strong but enough to toast the foot and light up. Thanks guys for your input and help, I appreciate it. :banger

There is a little screw on the bottom you can turn to adjust the flame. :tu

PCR
09-20-2010, 06:20 PM
There is a little screw on the bottom you can turn to adjust the flame. :tu

I know that but it's still a marginal flame. No worries.

itzfrank
09-20-2010, 06:41 PM
Ronson makes a weak flame now because this guy has a lawsuit with them.

http://www.uglymales.com/wc/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/pierluigi_collina.jpg

PCR
09-20-2010, 06:59 PM
Ronson makes a weak flame now because this guy has a lawsuit with them.

http://www.uglymales.com/wc/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/pierluigi_collina.jpg

:r

RustyShackleford
09-20-2010, 07:01 PM
I have come to like the light flame. Sure it may take a little longer to light the cigar but at least I don't kill the cigar like with some other lighters.

I'll sometimes shed a tear when some of my friends burn the hell out of their cigars :(

Ratters
09-20-2010, 07:16 PM
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

Great lighters. About $2 each delivered, when you buy 3

Best lighters ever, plus they hold a bunch of fuel. That said both Ronsons I've had work great and continue to work great. I fill them with Vector though. Actually just picked up a couple new ronsons cause they had them at Walmart. But the Guang Da is the shiznit. :ss

OLS
09-20-2010, 07:40 PM
Hate to think what you pay for cigars there!:bangerI like deals myself, BUT REMEMBER how much better America worked when a man
could still get a fair but high price for goods and services in this country. Now everything is
deal deal deal, that's too high, F that guy, his prices are double what I pay the chinese to
send me $hitbag product X. That's where all the jobs went, people just can't survive in the
new world economy. I know I NEVER buy cigars that are not onsale and never at a B and M.

awsmith4
09-20-2010, 08:50 PM
I know that but it's still a marginal flame. No worries.

I've noticed the flme is stronger when I use higher grade fuel so maybe once you use up what you have and get Vector, Lava, etc. then it will improve.

I like deals myself, BUT REMEMBER how much better America worked when a man
could still get a fair but high price for goods and services in this country. Now everything is
deal deal deal, that's too high, F that guy, his prices are double what I pay the chinese to
send me $hitbag product X. That's where all the jobs went, people just can't survive in the
new world economy. I know I NEVER buy cigars that are not onsale and never at a B and M.

But wasn't it our forefather Franklin who said "A penny saved is a penny earned" ?

mobarbq
09-20-2010, 10:36 PM
When I was out having my nightly cigar earlier, I was wondering about the screw on the bottom of the lighter, with the Phillips head. I couldn't find my small screwdriver, so someone here please tell me and satisfy my curiosity, what does the small screw uncover if you remove it?

bobarian
09-20-2010, 10:39 PM
When I was out having my nightly cigar earlier, I was wondering about the screw on the bottom of the lighter, with the Phillips head. I couldn't find my small screwdriver, so someone here please tell me and satisfy my curiosity, what does the small screw uncover if you remove it?

Removing the small screw will allow you to take the innards out of the case. :tu

PCR
09-21-2010, 12:13 AM
I like deals myself, BUT REMEMBER how much better America worked when a man
could still get a fair but high price for goods and services in this country. Now everything is
deal deal deal, that's too high, F that guy, his prices are double what I pay the chinese to
send me $hitbag product X. That's where all the jobs went, people just can't survive in the
new world economy. I know I NEVER buy cigars that are not onsale and never at a B and M.

+1 brother.

PCR
09-21-2010, 07:04 PM
PCR. where did you get the lighters? I cannot seem to find any in Seattle.

Check your mailbox, hopefully tomorrow. :tu

LostAbbott
09-21-2010, 08:50 PM
Check your mailbox, hopefully tomorrow. :tu

Rock on Brother thank you very much. I will not be back home till Friday, will post pix when I got it.

BC-Axeman
09-21-2010, 09:14 PM
Mine is going on three years old now. I had to force the flame screw higher, past some kind of stop (I felt it break). It works great. I use some kind of triple refined fluid and every time I refill it I make sure it sprays fluid out if I press on the valve with screwdriver tip or something. This means there is no air trapped inside. Cheap butane doesn't work in it.

South Shield
09-21-2010, 11:41 PM
Best lighters ever, plus they hold a bunch of fuel. That said both Ronsons I've had work great and continue to work great. I fill them with Vector though. Actually just picked up a couple new ronsons cause they had them at Walmart. But the Guang Da is the shiznit. :ss

YES! Just picked up 5 of those..

junkinduck
09-22-2010, 07:52 AM
I like deals myself, BUT REMEMBER how much better America worked when a man
could still get a fair but high price for goods and services in this country. Now everything is
deal deal deal, that's too high, F that guy, his prices are double what I pay the chinese to
send me $hitbag product X. That's where all the jobs went, people just can't survive in the
new world economy. I know I NEVER buy cigars that are not onsale and never at a B and M.

This is the Wal Mart mentality. I hate it.

mobarbq
09-22-2010, 02:21 PM
Removing the small screw will allow you to take the innards out of the case. :tu

Thanks, I may have to check that out. I appreciate your answer.

jkim05
09-23-2010, 11:47 AM
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4179

Great lighters. About $2 each delivered, when you buy 3

I've used those, but now I usually get these: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1320~r.83408549

The tank is larger, and they've been more reliable for me. Just bought some more the other day.

357
09-23-2010, 11:56 AM
Mine is going on three years old now. I had to force the flame screw higher, past some kind of stop (I felt it break). It works great. I use some kind of triple refined fluid and every time I refill it I make sure it sprays fluid out if I press on the valve with screwdriver tip or something. This means there is no air trapped inside. Cheap butane doesn't work in it.

If you take off the shell (1 phillips head screw) you can slide off the o-ring around the flame adjustment screw, take of the ristrictor ring (looks like the letter Q), then reinstall the o-ring and shell. Now the flame can be adjusted as high as you want without potentially breaking the lighter.

I have owned dozens. Only one broke, the hing. I have used Vector in all and all work well. I usually end up giving them away at herfs, otherwise I'd probably still be using the first one I bought.

mobarbq
09-27-2010, 04:13 PM
As far as finding a JetLite, I think I understood that some of you on the forum may be truckers, and in case you've been looking for one of these, I found the mother lode today. At the Wal-Mart Supercenter on West Sunshine in Springfield, I found about a dozen of these today. They have three different basic models, all for $2.94, they are at the counter where they sell cigarettes. If you're passing through on I-44 and can take a slight detour, there's where you could get one. Jct of Highway 13 and 60, fyi.
So... Wal-Mart does still carry them, it's just very scattered.

DGK
09-27-2010, 10:03 PM
Ditto what mobarbq said... the inventory at WalMart varies from store to store, so items you find at one location aren't necessarily available another location... as close as across town even. I picked up a couple of lighters tonight at "my" WalMart for the same $2.94 as mobarbq spent.