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Redbaron
11-07-2008, 08:50 AM
So I know I'm gonna catch a bunch of crap for this but whatever...

I can't seem to "nose" a cigar as well as everyone else. I try and try but I can only get a little bit to come out.

Can someone give me some tips?

(I know I'm not the only one who has trouble "nosing" a cigar, so I hope this thread helps people)

VirtualSmitty
11-07-2008, 08:53 AM
Unclench your cheeks :r

Redbaron
11-07-2008, 08:55 AM
Unclench your cheeks :r

I really don't know what to say to that... :(

68TriShield
11-07-2008, 08:58 AM
Keep your mouth shut and push out the smoke from your nose.Simple :)

Redbaron
11-07-2008, 09:00 AM
Keep your mouth shut and push out the smoke from your nose.Simple :)

I think its a mental thing. :mad:

croatan
11-07-2008, 09:00 AM
I basically had Aaron (montecristo#2) in a bearhug at SoCal this last year, holding his mouth shut, trying to make him breathe out his nose, and all I succeeded in doing was damn near smothering him.

I'd never even thought about how to do it until that night. Just seemed natural. But there was no way I (or anyone else there) could explain it that worked for him.

I taught a new smoker a week or so ago in about ten seconds, though. Just telling him to close his mouth, make a little "k" sound in the back of his throat, and exhale slowly through his nose.

I really have no idea why it would be so much harder for some people than for others. Maybe there's something physiological that explains it. I sucked at biology, so I wouldn't really know.

(and yes, I'm exaggerating about the bearhug--slightly)

pnoon
11-07-2008, 09:01 AM
Keep your mouth shut
therein lies the problem. ;)

Redbaron
11-07-2008, 09:04 AM
therein lies the problem. ;)

ouch, damn pete, you need to stop hangin with klugs! :)

pnoon
11-07-2008, 09:06 AM
ouch, damn pete, you need to stop hangin with klugs! :)

:r :D

Redbaron
11-07-2008, 09:06 AM
Im gonna spend sometime trying it this evening. I just feel that Im missing the essence of the cigar sometimes.

VirtualSmitty
11-07-2008, 09:08 AM
Im gonna spend sometime trying it this evening. I just feel that Im missing the essence of the cigar sometimes.

that's cause your missing the gentle part :hm

Pipe&Cigar
11-07-2008, 09:09 AM
When your mouth is closed move your tongue back (similar to when you swallow) while exhaling through your nose (Croatan's "make a small sound in the back of your throat" is a great one, I had never heard that). Your tongue will move the remaining smoke that is inside your Oral cavity back to your throat and carry it out your nose with the other exhaled air from your lungs.... easier than this sounds!

mrreindeer
11-07-2008, 09:10 AM
I love this topic; it is my favorite, as I'm sure Scottw, ucla695, madurolover & cigary (among others) will attest.

THE one best way to 'nose' a cigar is to find a British manager of a fish 'n chips joint. Enter into a discussion about cigars. Have him tell you what he thinks of your cigars. He will take one, then the next, and 'nose' (i.e. shove) them deep inside his nose. He will then tell you the cigars smell of ammonia and are therefore of poor quality. Then he will hand the booger-wrappered cigars back to you.

That, in short, is the best way to 'nose' a cigar.

I really have no idea why it would be so much harder for some people than for others.

yeah, i'm not so sure why either but I think this will help...

-without a cigar, close your mouth
-snort out of your nose; just SNORT (there will be a light 'oomph' sound if you're doing it right)
-repeat so you are used to this action
-then slow it down so you're not snorting

-try it with a cigar
-take a draw, blow 2/3 out of your mouth, then close your mouth
-'snort' the last 1/3 of smoke out of your nose just like you were doing before
-if you have to snort, don't worry, you're just getting used to it
-then slow it down so you're not really snorting, you're just 'releasing' the smoke out of your nose

You will notice so many more flavors this way! I just want to know if by 'snorkeling' your cigars...are you inhaling?

Clampdown
11-07-2008, 09:11 AM
Take the finger out of your nose

Da Klugs
11-07-2008, 09:12 AM
ouch, damn pete, you need to stop hangin with klugs! :)

:bx :D

Easy prep work... right now without a cigar:

Inhale though you mouth/nose however you like. Close your mouth and exhale through your nose. Do it again and try to exhale through your mouth and nose. Modulating how much of nose vs mouth is just a matter of "gettin some touch".

Thats it!

Do the exact same thing (exhale) after taking a draw on your cigar next time you smoke. Make sure you dont fully exhale before taking the draw which might be causing you the problem. Since you are not "inhaling" when you draw on a cigar you need some air in your lungs to be able to exhale thru your nose/mouth vs just puffin the smoke out of your mouth.

Celt
11-07-2008, 09:12 AM
The K thing is the perfect way to splain it!

Yes for sure if not doing this you are missing a big slap in the face with flavor.
Before I started smoking and tasting a cigar this way I always thought what the heck is all the hub bub with these things, they just taste like blek!

Now its woweeee!!!! Thats where I get all the sweet spice, coffee, fresh baked oatmeal cookies flavors from now I think. Really makes a difference!

mmblz
11-07-2008, 09:13 AM
Every time I have tried this, I still think it just makes the subtle, enjoyable flavors of the cigar suddenly become harsh and more like a cigarette. I don't understand the appeal...

kayaker
11-07-2008, 09:15 AM
I with you there brother. I used to smoke cigarettes a long while ago and could get the circular breathing type of smoking going. But when I started to read about snorking here I couldn't figure out how to do it without fully inhaling first.

Then last weekend my I was telling my nonsmoking wife (she dabbled in early university) about it. So she takes my cigar from me and, BAM, she does it. I tried to hide my shame, took the cigar back from her and then just did it.:pn

Take a draw on you cigar, close your mouth and exhale through your nose. The air in your mouth (and the smoke) will go out with what is also in your lungs.

I found it kinda burned the back of my sinuses a bit, but if you try, you can let out smaller amounts.

Good luck with your efforts.

galaga
11-07-2008, 09:16 AM
I basically had Aaron (montecristo#2) in a bearhug at SoCal this last year, holding his mouth shut, trying to make him breathe out his nose, and all I succeeded in doing was damn near smothering him.

.........


I wondered WTF you two were doing, but you were, after all in California, so I didn't say anything.:rolleyes:


Sorta like swallowing and exhaling at the same time, but it burns your nose unless the cigar is 50 years old.

Resipsa
11-07-2008, 09:17 AM
:bx :D

Easy prep work... right now without a cigar:

Inhale though you mouth/nose however you like. Close your mouth and exhale through your nose. Do it again and try to exhale through your mouth and nose. Modulating how much of nose vs mouth is just a matter of "gettin some touch".

Thats it!

Do the exact same thing (exhale) after taking a draw on your cigar next time you smoke. Make sure you dont fully exhale before taking the draw which might be causing you the problem. Since you are not "inhaling" when you draw on a cigar you need some air in your lungs to be able to exhale thru your nose vs just puffin the smoke out of your mouth.That was the problem for me when I first tried to exhale through my nose. Make sure to take a breath before drawing on the cigar so there's air in your lungs to exhale with.

jquirit
11-07-2008, 09:17 AM
The way I was shown, and this seems to work fairly well across those of us in the Stumptown herfer group, was to draw off the cigar, tilt your chin down to your chest, and then gently attempt to push your tounge towards the roof of your mouth (think of the motion like trying to push the smoke to the back of your throat). It should come out your nose in a gentle fashion.

Also, try this (initially) on really mild smokes. I did this with a Pepin the first time and let's just say it hurt for a while. :r

Thanks to vstrommark for this advice! :tu

Celt
11-07-2008, 09:18 AM
Hmmm when i do it im not inhaling it into my lungs I get the smoke in the back of my throat and force it through my sinus and out my nose, then the colors i see oh the pretty colors!

:r

Redbaron
11-07-2008, 09:33 AM
Thanks all.

Gonna try it with a QDO corona, in a bit

ahc4353
11-07-2008, 09:35 AM
Thanks all.

Gonna try it with a QDO corona, in a bit

One of my all time favorites. Enjoy.

dcamacho
11-07-2008, 09:38 AM
good tips ... i need em' too lol

romwarrior
11-07-2008, 11:26 AM
For me, doing the nose exhale is EXACTLY the same as a regular exhale I just close my mouth. Try exhaling half the smoke out of your mouth then close your mouth without changing anything else. You don't have to try to force the smoke out of the back of your mouth. The air coming up from your lungs creates a vacuum and sucks the smoke out of your mouth and through your nose. For me, I ALWAYS start the exhale out of my mouth. At what point I switch to nose depends on the strength of the cigar. I just think it is difficult for some to start right away with the nose exhale.

Jay Hemingway
11-07-2008, 11:50 AM
therein lies the problem. ;)

:r

Bubba - NJ
11-07-2008, 04:05 PM
Unclench your cheeks :r

I really don't know what to say to that... :(

Where are you trying to get the smoke to come out ? :pn

acruce
11-07-2008, 06:19 PM
I really don't know what to say to that... :(

:tpd:

nozero
11-07-2008, 06:28 PM
When your mouth is closed move your tongue back (similar to when you swallow) while exhaling through your nose (Croatan's "make a small sound in the back of your throat" is a great one, I had never heard that). Your tongue will move the remaining smoke that is inside your Oral cavity back to your throat and carry it out your nose with the other exhaled air from your lungs.... easier than this sounds!

Agreed, a very good explanation by Croatan. To me, it's a little like when you laugh or make a snickering sound nasally, but far more relaxed.

DAFU
11-07-2008, 06:33 PM
:tpd:

If it's a mental thing then I'm not sure you should be following some of the advice your're getting.....................:confused:

You could try french inhaling to get yourself accustomed to having the smoke in your nose. I tend to do this a bit less agressively than blowing smoke out of my nose, but you will pick up on some interesting aromas from different Marquees.

Sauer Grapes
11-07-2008, 07:28 PM
How'd it go?

Da Klugs
11-07-2008, 07:34 PM
How'd it go?

:tpd::c:hm

Bruce
11-07-2008, 07:38 PM
retard







































:ss

poker
11-07-2008, 07:44 PM
retard

:ss


Bruce says one word and I cant stop laughing. :r

ToddziLLa
11-07-2008, 07:45 PM
Chris, you got my official in-person lesson at the Shack and couldn't do it...there's little hope brother! :D

Hehe...can't wait to herf with you soon man.

rhythm11
11-07-2008, 08:07 PM
I was at the shack this past year and around when Dave answered this question. What I remember hearing and have since been successful with is....

With your mouth closed, rest/press the tip of your tongue behind the top row of your teeth and have the back of your tongue towards the bottom of your mouth creating a sort of cavity.

try then to move your tongue towards that top of your mouth expelling the air that was in that space out your nose, you can put a finger under you nostrils to help feel that air come out. May need to move your lower jaw in an upward fashion at the same time to assist.

you can also just try to, with the cavity in the back of your mouth as described above, exhale and feel that air circulate in you mouth and finally going though your nose.

Hope this helps...

Redbaron
11-07-2008, 08:43 PM
I am getting a little better.

Practice makes perfect.

Thanks for the help!

Legend
11-07-2008, 08:47 PM
There were a few explinations here and none are the way I do it so maybe this will work for you.

Let a good petion of the smoke out but leave a bit in(of course). Close your lips. Place your tongue firmly on the roof of your mouth the tip just above your front teeth. Then begin to exhale out your nose while pushing the rest of your tongue up to the roof. It will come out.


It will burn like hell the first few times.