Patriots Fans

[mosesbotbol]

I have a feeling that there will be a settlement. Both sides have too much to lose if the season is cancelled.

I don't think the owners want to open their books and that is a big contention issue. It will show how poorly managed many teams are and how the owners have been "stealing" off the top.

I think the other issues can be worked out.

[chachee52]

Is there going to be football this season?

The CFL starts June 30th!! It's an option:sh

[jesseboston81]

The CFL starts June 30th!! It's an option:sh

:r :r

[Stephen]

Honestly would have preferred to see the Packers/Saints matchup as the first Monday night game of the season. Always glad to see the Pats playing Monday night, but the Pats/Dolphins just doesn't seem to have the "oomph" of the first Monday night game.
There's a lot of crappy MNF games this year. Further, teams like the Jaguars get not only one, but TWO games on MNF this year. What gives?

[Bruins Fan]

Drew Bledsoe nominated for the Pats hall of fame.
Absolutely, he is the guy that Parcells drafted that turned a sorry franchise around:tu
Drew was very very good, to bad he would not put the work in to become one of great ones.

[Stephen]

Drew Bledsoe nominated for the Pats hall of fame.
Absolutely, he is the guy that Parcells drafted that turned a sorry franchise around:tu
I thought it was Mo Lewis who turned the Patriots franchise around...;)
Drew was very very good, to bad he would not put the work in to become one of great ones.
Are they going to dedicate a statue in his honor, or are they just going to have him emulate his pocket awareness and stand on the pedestal himself?

[Bruins Fan]

Ha, ha, don't forget when Brady got hurt in the 2001
conference championship game and Drew came in to win the game. :D

[Stephen]

Ha, ha, don't forget when Brady got hurt in the 2001
conference championship game and Drew came in to win the game. :D
Yeah, he marched them right down the field for a touchdown right before the end of the first half. Can't remember exactly, wasn't it against the Steelers?

[Bruins Fan]

Yep Steelers. :noon

[mosesbotbol]

Drew Bledsoe nominated for the Pats hall of fame.
Absolutely, he is the guy that Parcells drafted that turned a sorry franchise around:tu
Drew was very very good, to bad he would not put the work in to become one of great ones.

:tu Bledsoe rocked. One of the best arms of his era. Not much bad to say. He played in two Super Bowl seasons; not many other QB's can say that.

[taltos]

Drew Bledsoe nominated for the Pats hall of fame.
Absolutely, he is the guy that Parcells drafted that turned a sorry franchise around:tu
Drew was very very good, to bad he would not put the work in to become one of great ones.I go back to when the Patriots were founded and no doubt that Drew was critical to the current success of the team but I have to vote for Antwine, he was just amazing to watch. I could never support Parcells after he sold the team out while attending a Super Bowl with the Patriots in attendance.

[Humpdebump]

Bledsoe will always be my favorite Pats player. As many said, this franchise was a joke before he came here. Granted, Parcells had a lot to do with it too. He might not have been a mobile qb but man coul he sling the ball. He gets too much crap for not being able to move around but I could think of a bunch of others that were exactly like that but people praise them. Imagine if Parcells chose Mirrer :r

[VTDragon]

People forget that when Bledsoe got hurt so badly taking that hit on the sidelines, we all thought that the season was over because the team was about to be turned over to an unproven career second stringer named Brady.. we all moaned and groaned and cursed our and Bledsoe's bad luck.

No doubt he was key in turning the franchise around. I'd like to see Brady help induct him into the Pats hall of fame.

[chachee52]

People forget that when Bledsoe got hurt so badly taking that hit on the sidelines, we all thought that the season was over because the team was about to be turned over to an unproven career second stringer named Brady.. we all moaned and groaned and cursed our and Bledsoe's bad luck.

I think that I was the only person to have made money on betting on Brady that first game!!

Anyway, Bledsoe was a great pocket QB, his downside the NFL was starting to be more mobile right in the middle of Bledsoe's carreer and he did not change. If he was around about 5-6 years earlier he'd be one of the greatest QBs in the league.

[VTDragon]

Finally a new season to think about. Thanks Mr Kraft for your hard work on the labor deal during your time of grief. A real class act!
Onto football:

I wondering:
Who will be our left tackle?
What kind of a pass rush will we have, (goodby Telly Banta-Cane)
Are the two rookie running backs any good?
Will we do the right thing and sign Logan Mankins to a long term deal, (Mr Kraft?)
Who will be the surprise free agent pick up to make the squad, or will that happen given the new practice/work rules?
Can Leigh Bodden regain his prior form?
Can McCourty avoid the sophomore slump? Ditto the two tight ends.
How much will Wilfork weigh with no mandated off season workouts?

All in all, it's nice not to think about labor deals and just think about the game. Hey, everyone in the NFL is unbeatten and the Red Sox are in first place. Ain't life grand!:)

[fhrblig]

Uh, did the Patriots really just trade for Albert Haynesworth? :rolleyes:

I can hear the talking heads now, "if anyone can whip him into shape it's Belichick." Honestly, I think it's a LOT more likely that NO ONE can whip Haynesworth into shape. I heard them say the same thing about Shanahan and look how well that worked out. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think it ain't gonna happen.

(In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a Pats fan.)

[kaisersozei]

Uh, did the Patriots really just trade for Albert Haynesworth? :rolleyes:

I can hear the talking heads now, "if anyone can whip him into shape it's Belichick." Honestly, I think it's a LOT more likely that NO ONE can whip Haynesworth into shape. I heard them say the same thing about Shanahan and look how well that worked out. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think it ain't gonna happen.

(In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a Pats fan.)

As a Redskins fan, all I can say is: :tu:tu

:lr :lr

[Wanger]

Uh, did the Patriots really just trade for Albert Haynesworth? :rolleyes:

I can hear the talking heads now, "if anyone can whip him into shape it's Belichick." Honestly, I think it's a LOT more likely that NO ONE can whip Haynesworth into shape. I heard them say the same thing about Shanahan and look how well that worked out. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I think it ain't gonna happen.

(In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a Pats fan.)

I have a feeling he'll play for Belichick. Two big examples of "malcontents" that thrived with the Pats...Corey Dillon and Randy Moss. Playing for a coach who truly KNOWS how to win can make a player change some habits and buy into a system. shanahan won on the coattails of John Elway and Terrell Davis. He hasn't done anything in Wash, and after Elway was gone, he didn't do much in Denver.

I think he might have looked better in Purple, playing next to Kevin Williams, though. :p

[fhrblig]

I have a feeling he'll play for Belichick. Two big examples of "malcontents" that thrived with the Pats...Corey Dillon and Randy Moss. Playing for a coach who truly KNOWS how to win can make a player change some habits and buy into a system. shanahan won on the coattails of John Elway and Terrell Davis. He hasn't done anything in Wash, and after Elway was gone, he didn't do much in Denver.

I think he might have looked better in Purple, playing next to Kevin Williams, though. :p

I thought he'd play for Shanahan. That's all I'm sayin'. Admittedly, Shanahan has seemed to veer toward 'crazy old man' town lately...

[massphatness]

The Pats generally run a base 3-4, and my guess is they use Haynesworth only when they flex to their 4-3 package.

[Bruins Fan]

Clear the streets, and lock up your women :r

[Bruins Fan]

Ochocinco,what the hell is going on in Foxboro?
I always liked him but his skills are greatly diminished.
At least he is a fun guy to have around,I don't think his clown act will fly? :sl

[VTDragon]

Ochocinco - good move -- yes his skills are diminished, but he can still get open, he's not afraid to go over the middle, (ala Randy Moss), he plays every down, he's a good club house guy and he'll be lots of fun. Plus he didn't cost much.
Hainsworth, I don't know... He is one screwed up dude. IF Belicheck can get him to play and be a solid citizen off the field the Pats will have made the deal of the year -when he wants to be this guy is a pass rushing monster. If not, he will be cut and the Pats have not really lost anything except some wasted time in practice.
Ain't it great to have football to discuss again.

[chippewastud79]

Ochocinco - good move -- yes his skills are diminished, but he can still get open, he's not afraid to go over the middle, (ala Randy Moss), he plays every down, he's a good club house guy and he'll be lots of fun. Plus he didn't cost much.


All those three are laughable. He hates running across the middle, runs some of the worst routes in the NFL and takes plays off all the time. Lest you forget he is a 'look at me' guy, not exactly a good guy in the locker room with their current regime. :r

[mosesbotbol]

I have big expectation of 85. The whole world is watching and he's getting to play with the best. This could be his last & best opportunity to show the world he can be that good.

[chachee52]

This is just like Christmas in July. I think that every year should be like this last week!!!
So, Banta-Cann=gone, Crumple=gone, and Ty Warren=gone? WOW, This is getting crazy!!! I can see Crumple, Banta-Cann.... ok he's getting up there (although I just love saying his name when he makes a play!!) but Warren? Never say him just to get cut!! Why in the world wouldn't we go after someone for him instead of just cutting him? He's going to be missed, do we really think that Haynsworth is going to step it up that much?

[Bruins Fan]

All those three are laughable. He hates running across the middle, runs some of the worst routes in the NFL and takes plays off all the time. Lest you forget he is a 'look at me' guy, not exactly a good guy in the locker room with their current regime. :r

If don't run routes the way Brady wants him to he will be gone in a heart beat? A tip off will be if Tom gets in his face like he did with Gallolway.

[chippewastud79]

If don't run routes the way Brady wants him to he will be gone in a heart beat? A tip off will be if Tom gets in his face like he did with Gallolway.

It happened on a number of occasions with Palmer in Cincinnati, but clearly Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis didn't care. :rolleyes:

[Tio Gato]

WOW, This is getting crazy!!! I can see Crumple, Banta-Cann.... ok he's getting up there (although I just love saying his name when he makes a play!!) but Warren? Never say him just to get cut!! Why in the world wouldn't we go after someone for him instead of just cutting him?

I don't know if it's true, but I heard on WEEI today that because of the new CBA it may make sense to cut players then rehire them later at a discount price. The idea being let them get healthy on their own dime and then save money later. Also if the Patriots thought they could get something for him they would.

I don't know what goes on in Bill's head, but I'd sure love to know.

[chachee52]

I don't know what goes on in Bill's head, but I'd sure love to know.

The fact is: Just when you think that you do know, he throws something more drastic than a curve ball at ya!!! But I guess that's why we love the guy:banger

[VTDragon]

I think that Banta-Cane, Crumple and Warren are ALL simple salary cap moves. If they are willing to come back at a lower price, Bill will rehire, if not, he feels that their on field worth has diminshed below their current salary cap number. This is not news, Bill has consistently done this over the years and every training camp there are moans and groans about him letting go of this or that "great" player. In virtually every case the players in question never again reach the level of play that they were at before and the substitute goes on to make us forget who was let go. Yes, there are exceptions, (Seymore and Ty Law come to mind). But, and this is a BIG but, they have to live within the salary cap. Look at a franchise like Oakland to see what you get when you sign guys to big contracts based upon past glory, but who are past there prime. Bill's way is better. Hey, lots of times I don't understand him either. But he is a far better judge of the true worth of a player than me, so I bow to his judgement. (Note, BTW, that he just re-signed Matt Light for two years).

[chachee52]

(Note, BTW, that he just re-signed Matt Light for two years).

This actually suprised me more after letting go people like Warren. Light to me is over rated at what he does. Yes he makes a few key plays than lets the easiest plays go by him.
But I guess this is why I am not a coach

[Bruins Fan]

Pats are really stocking up with big D linemen just signing Shaun Ellis, about time no pass rush has killed us.
I hope a few of them have something left in the tank?

[VTDragon]

It was a fun preseason game Thursday night. Tough to judge just how good this team is as most of the starters did not play and I think the competition (Jacksonville) was suspect, but a few thoughts:
* I liked the rookie running back Ridley, good speed, good balance and willing to stick his nose in the line and not dance.
*Dane Fletcher had a great night at LB. Maybe some competition there?
*Nice to see Gostkowski back in uniform and kicking well.
*Solder looked solid at left tackle, but with Light re-signed, I expect he will see limited action this season
*Both QB's looked good, though Mallett was up against the last string for the Jags. I wonder if Bill will keep 3 QB's on the roster?
*Taylor Price looked real good at wide receiver, he was essentially red-shirted last year and could be a real break-out guy this year, especially once TB is throwing to him.
*If the Jags can be considered viable competition, it looks like the Pats have great depth, I'm sure a lot of their eventual castoffs will find jobs elsewhere at cut time.

Next up Tampa Bay, I expect the starters WILL see some playing time in the first quarter of this one.

[Bruins Fan]

This team will be very tough to beat,we will now have a pass rush :D
If the Pats had one the last three years we could of had two more Super Bowl appearances :banger

[VTDragon]

This team will be very tough to beat,we will now have a pass rush :D
If the Pats had one the last three years we could of had two more Super Bowl appearances :banger
Yep :tpd:

[taltos]

It does appear that the Pats have made some noteworthy additions, hope that the additons pay off for the team.:tu

[Stephen]

This team will be very tough to beat,we will now have a pass rush :D
If the Pats had one the last three years we could of had two more Super Bowl appearances :banger
Playoff record 2001-2006: 12-2
Playoff record 2007-Present: 2-3

Unless that pass rush comes with some A/V equipment, you might be overreaching just a tad.

[Bruins Fan]

I see the Pats tearing up the NFL this season all the way to the Super Bowl.:D
Chad is a weak link and he knows it,he don't have much time to get his act together or he will be on the bench.
“It’s like a machine out there and I’m that one part that’s not up with anybody else,” Ocho admitted. “I got a long way to go, personally.”

[mosesbotbol]

Yup, 85 better learn some plays and execute them. He showed he has the hands; now it is time to learn Patriots football.

[VTDragon]

If 85 doesn't learn the playbook to Belicheck's satisfaction- he will ride the bench and Taylor Price will get every opportunity to prove himself.

BTW.... I wonder if Hayneworth and Sean Ellis will play this week?

[VTDragon]

Nice game by T Brady and the Offense last night, absolutely LOVED Welker's 99 1/2 yard catch and run. Unfortunately #85 was largely absent ...the jury is still out on him as far as I'm concerned. But, the tight ends played well, as did D Branch and B Tate, when in there. Kudos to Solder too, he generally did a good job on the O line. - Too bad about Koppen, he reportedly has a broken foot, he'll be missed.

Now as the the much advertised revamped Defense .. I guess the best we can say is that it's a work in progress. They did get 4 sacks, but the pressure was spotty and they made Henne look like a much better QB than he really is. Hopefully they can work out some of the kinks.

Next up San Diego.

[mosesbotbol]

Now as the the much advertised revamped Defense .. I guess the best we can say is that it's a work in progress. They did get 4 sacks, but the pressure was spotty and they made Henne look like a much better QB than he really is. Hopefully they can work out some of the kinks.

Next up San Diego.

Defense neeeds work. We can't go another all offense season and expect different results in the end.

[VTDragon]

Nice win vs San Diego but I'm STILL concerned about the defense. It was nice to see V Wilfork get the INT, but I'd rather see him and his line mates consistently rushing the passer and geting in the QB's face.
Most expected the shootout that this game was, it will be interesting to see how the defense fares vs newly rejuvenated Buffalo.

[VTDragon]

Congrats to Buffalo- you deserved this one.
Well now we know what happens when Tom is NOT the Player of the week -Pats Lose.
4 interceptions were bad, (though I thought 2 of them were not Tom's fault), but the defense just plain stunk. Brady's heroics covered for them the first two weeks, not this week. If the Defense doesn't step up to the plate vs. Oakland we'll be at 500 and sinking like the Red Sox.

On the positive side:
Kudos to:
Welker, (what a joy to watch him play)
Gronkowski - (simply a BEAST)
The Offensive line-they did real good, interceptions were NOT because of QB pressure

We better score 38 next week because the Raiders will against this Defense

[mosesbotbol]

I never wished for a competitor's play to be ruled a touchdown more than last Sunday. I had a feeling the Bill would beat us. 3-0; they are a team to watch!

[kugie]

Don't get me wrong I love the Pats.
BUT they don't have the defense right now to get it through the playoffs I know it's early in the season but they don't have it.
They can gun sling with the best of them but they can not stop anyone right now.

[Sled Dog]

Defense is certainly going to be the Achilles heel for the Pats. I'm a Bills season ticket holder, the Pats D-line wasn't generating much push and just like the Bills, it looks like the Pats secondary is suspect. The Pats are starting to look like the Colts have for most of Manning's time there.... Great offense trying to outscore the other team. That said, Brady is still an incredible player and more times than not, they will win that shootout.

[Stephen]

Defense is certainly going to be the Achilles heel for the Pats. I'm a Bills season ticket holder, the Pats D-line wasn't generating much push and just like the Bills, it looks like the Pats secondary is suspect. The Pats are starting to look like the Colts have for most of Manning's time there.... Great offense trying to outscore the other team. That said, Brady is still an incredible player and more times than not, they will win that shootout.
Not a lot of passing goes on at Foxborough in December, and three of their last five games are there with the other two being @ Denver and @ Washington.

[VTDragon]

Good win over the Raiders. Special thanks to R Seymore who was so intent on showing up his old team that twice he single handedly allowed the Pats to continue their first drive via dumb penalties to a go ahead touchdown. Once ahead the Pats never looked back.

Kudos to:
Welker: can't say enough about him- he his redefining the position of slot receiver.
Wilfork, ANOTHER pick- go Vince
O line- Overall good job on both pass and run blocking
Brady- he protected the ball after the 4 INT's last week
Offensive scheme: Hey we found a running game! Maybe taking a bit longer to score and keeping the defense off the field is somthing the coaching staff should think about more for the future. Good jobs by B-J Green-Ellis and S Ridley.

Concerns:
Defense - Not even Tom and company can score 30 + points EVERY week. If this unit doesn't play better, all the fancy offensive stats will go for naught
Mayo hurt- this suspect defense can ill aford to lose him for any length of time

Now the hype begins- bring on the Jets

[VTDragon]

Kinda late in commenting on last week's win against the Jets-Jets-Jets, been too busy.

Overall a good effort against the Ryan AC. Happy to see more balance to the offense, but dissapointed that Ridley was not more effective- guess he needs some education as to where the holes are. Defense was better, but some of that has to be attributed to the ineffectivness of Sanchez & the Jets. Good thing they don't yet realize what a talent they have in Plaxico and how to use him.

Kudos:
B-J Green Ellis .... he's got to be the most underrrated back in the league.
O-line, not perfect, but pretty good against a very good Jets D-line
Tom Terrific - numbers not a gaudy as earlier games, but he handled the pressure very well.

Concerns:
Defensive line - these boys need to get some pressure on the QB
Defensive backs- looking somewhat better in a cover two instead of man to man, but still lacking. Yes, they would benefit from more pressure up front, but they still need to cover.

Up next, Dallas with Rex's brother and his version of the Ryan defense. He made Tom look very bad when he was coaching the Browns and you know that Rex will be giving him some help this week. On the plus side, we can probably count on Romo to implode at some point.

[mosesbotbol]

I expect a massive win by the Pats over Dallas.

[VTDragon]

I expect a massive win by the Pats over Dallas.
Hope you're right, but the Cowboys make me a lot more nervous than the Jets did.

[mosesbotbol]

Hope you're right, but the Cowboys make me a lot more nervous than the Jets did.

I was the most nervous over the Bills, believe it or not.

[Bruins Fan]

I wonder how much they are paying Brady to throw this game?:confused:
He is stinking up the place:td

[maconusmile]

Go Bears!

[Bruins Fan]

Wow they pulled it out on the last drive.
Four turnovers yeah they got lucky.

[14holestogie]

With Brady (and Romo), the game isn't over until it's over. But the ending's usually predictable. :)

[mosesbotbol]

Game clock was on their side for once this season.

[Bruins Fan]

Time for the Pats to bite the bullet and eat the big money and dump Ochostinko.

He had one ball thrown to him once and ran the wrong route,that was the last we seen of him yesterday.

I say make a move for Brandon Lloyd with the bye week you would get him up to speed on a few plays,we need a receiver that can take the top off the defense.

[mosesbotbol]

Ocho could come into play later in the season. Teams won't cover him as they expect him to drop the ball or screw up... Then all of a sudden he catches the ball.

I hear you, I would trade him if they can, but who wants him at this point? Can he play Special Teams?

[SteelCityBoy]

Time for the Pats to bite the bullet and eat the big money and dump Ochostinko.

He had one ball thrown to him once and ran the wrong route,that was the last we seen of him yesterday.

I say make a move for Brandon Lloyd with the bye week you would get him up to speed on a few plays,we need a receiver that can take the top off the defense.

Hahahaha!!! I love it!!! Ochostinko!!!! I knew the Pats picking up that joker was bad idea! Saw him for so many years against my boys and he is so over rated it's rediculous!

[Bruins Fan]

Hahahaha!!! I love it!!! Ochostinko!!!! I knew the Pats picking up that joker was bad idea! Saw him for so many years against my boys and he is so over rated it's rediculous!
He is kind of sad,you would think he was a smart guy?

Brady called his number he broke right ,Brady threw left,you could see Tom chewing him out on the bench that was his last play in the game.
One way or the other he is gone?

[VTDragon]

Whew, pulled out a close one against the Cowboys. Game was pretty much what I expected as Ryan's defense really made Brady work for this game. Nice to see the Pats win one of these close ones.
Some thoughts:

Ochostinko ... I agree he's gotta go. Nice try Bill, but cut your losses and let's see if Taylor Price can play or not.
D-Line -- getting better, still not there, but getting better. I keep wondering just how much of the ineffectiveness of this unit is tied to changing over to a new scheme with virtually no training camp and a bunch of new guys.
D-Backs - this unit needs serious work. A good QB is gonna kill us. Mcourty needs to see a shrink to be convinced he actually has the talent to succeed in this league. He plays way to conservatively.
O-Line ... They did pretty well overall, good run blocking (against a theoretically good run defense), and not bad pass blocking - I know Brady got hit a lot - but...
QB ... Tom is an unbelievable talent but sometimes he thinks he can do more than he can do. Even Aikman commented on what little windows he was trying to squeeze passes into. He was mostly successful and doing so was absolutely needed on the last drive, but one of the interceptions was because of his slight misfire. The other thing is -he is holding the ball too long waiting for receivers to get open. This is probably more of a scheme thing as they were trying to go downfield on a lot of plays instead of the quick passes that they felt Dallas had prepared for, but some of the sacks can be squarely laid on Tom's shoulders.
Receivers ... Both tight ends get an A, Branch did well, Welker did OK for being double teamed all day and Ochostinko didn't show up.
Running Backs ... Gotta love Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis. Just gotta. Ridley and Woodhead looked OK when in there but Benny is the man. It will be interesting to see what happens after the bye week when Kevin Faulk can come back.
Special Teams ... These units need some work. The kicker & punter both are doing very well but our coverage on punts is inadequate, (Welker's gonna get killed) and it gauls me to see so many teams run kickoffs out of the end zone to the 30-35 yard line, especially when we only seem to be able to get out to the 20 at best.

Overall, nice way to finish before the bye week. On top of the AFC East and in control of their own destiny. Next up - The Steelers in two weeks.

[Bruins Fan]

Running Backs ... Gotta love Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis. Just gotta. Ridley and Woodhead looked OK when in there but Benny is the man. It will be interesting to see what happens after the bye week when Kevin Faulk can come back.

That's an easy one,Woodhead will be inactive?
Listening to Brady on D+C this morning he said Faulk was the most clutch player he ever played with,and was looking to see number 33 on the practice field.

We can forget about Lloyd he was just traded to the Rams.

[Bruins Fan]

I don't believe what I heard on the radio Ochostinko is going to give a lecture at Emerson Collage about using Twitter:confused
This is a guy that's making 6 million,has six catches,and only plays the last two minutes when the team is running out the clock.:td
Chad has been with the team 10 weeks and don't know the play book yet?
I give him two more games before he is cut :sl

[VTDragon]

Actually, I only give him one more, this week's Steelers game. I figure that he had an extra week to get familiar with the scheme they are going with against Pittsburg and if he doesn't show something it's Adios Ochostinko

[chippewastud79]

Actually, I only give him one more, this week's Steelers game. I figure that he had an extra week to get familiar with the scheme they are going with against Pittsburg and if he doesn't show something it's Adios Ochostinko

I am surprised that he has hung on this long. He clearly doesn't understand what it takes to be a team player on a successful team. His 'me first' attitude worked in Cincinnati where the offense was forced to go to him over and over. But when he got to a team where he was expected to play in the system which requires him to run the correct routes, block and give effort on every play, it appears he is getting lost/confused/un-motivated. Its a shame that he was so worshiped in Cincinnati and fans really gave the success of the team (and Palmer) to him, he has truly been exposed as a lackluster player with tremedous athletic ability but little motivation/skill. :sh

[Bruins Fan]

With Brady you mess up you don't get the ball period.
Once Tom loses confidence in you your done,no one has ever come back from the dog house,you get released. :sl

[VTDragon]

Bad day at the office for the flying Elvi this week down in Pittsburg.
Two biggest reasons the Pats got beat:
1.) The Steelers wanted it more. They played with more intensity and just plain out hit the Patriots. It was so evident that even Phil Simms recognized it.
2.) We finally ran up against an offense who schemed to take advantage of our glaring weakness in pass defense. I just hope that the rest of the league was not paying attention, (fat chance).

Kudos to the Steelers, they kicked our butts and deserved the win. The game was no where near as close as the score indicated.

I expect it will be a LONG week of practice getting ready for the Giants. Maybe Bill will even schedule some greatly needed tackeling practice.

[Bruins Fan]

As bad as the Pats played they still could have won?
I don't get the cutting of all the d-backs? but they all suck they lost the game .
The d-line played well it was all the 3rd and long passes the killed them,that and keeping the offense off the field.

[SteelCityBoy]

Bad day at the office for the flying Elvi this week down in Pittsburg.
Two biggest reasons the Pats got beat:
1.) The Steelers wanted it more. They played with more intensity and just plain out hit the Patriots. It was so evident that even Phil Simms recognized it.
2.) We finally ran up against an offense who schemed to take advantage of our glaring weakness in pass defense. I just hope that the rest of the league was not paying attention, (fat chance).

Kudos to the Steelers, they kicked our butts and deserved the win. The game was no where near as close as the score indicated.

I expect it will be a LONG week of practice getting ready for the Giants. Maybe Bill will even schedule some greatly needed tackeling practice.


The Pats are and will be one helluva team to recon with. I think what every Pats fan saw this past Sunday was years of frustration and the Steelers finally saying enough was enough. The Pats have dominated us for so long. I must say it does feel nice to see a victory like that but I know all too well it matters most and that means the playoffs. Both these teams are heading there and if there's one thing I definately know as a huge Steelers fan it is not wanting to see the Pats come playoff time.

Brady and the Pats are a great team. Thanks for letting me check in on your thread and give my thoughts and props to your oranization for the success you have had over the years against my boys. Felt nice yesterday for us....finally. :D

[mosesbotbol]

Offense for the Pats did not show up at all. Pats defense just stayed above water, but wasn't enough. Steelers beat the Pats fair and square...

Steelers or Pats will go to Superbowl.

[taltos]

The Pats are and will be one helluva team to recon with. I think what every Pats fan saw this past Sunday was years of frustration and the Steelers finally saying enough was enough. The Pats have dominated us for so long. I must say it does feel nice to see a victory like that but I know all too well it matters most and that means the playoffs. Both these teams are heading there and if there's one thing I definately know as a huge Steelers fan it is not wanting to see the Pats come playoff time.

Brady and the Pats are a great team. Thanks for letting me check in on your thread and give my thoughts and props to your oranization for the success you have had over the years against my boys. Felt nice yesterday for us....finally. :DWe sucked but you didn't get your wish of a Brady injury so I guess that we won in the long run.

[kugie]

That was the worst :td

[VirtualSmitty]

That was the worst :td

I rather enjoyed it.

BIG BLUE :D:tu

[Bruins Fan]

Their just another team this season.

[taltos]

Their just another team this season.

Thanksully so is the rest of the AFC.:D

[Bruins Fan]

It's time for Bill Belichick to be relieved of his duty as GM and grand poobah of the Pats.

The man cant draft, always trades down for (VALUE), brings in broken down circus dogs, pays them millions and cuts them.

More then half of his coaching staff are all young men with NO NFL Experience more (Value) and are all yes men or their gone.

[VTDragon]

Suffice to say the offense stunk in the first half and the defense stunk on the final Giant's drive. We did not deserve to win and we did not. Best get our act together this week or it will be a long day vs the Jets.
Good news along those lines...Haynesworth was just released! Now if OchoStinko was just right behind him it would be a step in the right direction.

[VTDragon]

It's time for Bill Belichick to be relieved of his duty as GM and grand poobah of the Pats.

The man cant draft, always trades down for (VALUE), brings in broken down circus dogs, pays them millions and cuts them.

More then half of his coaching staff are all young men with NO NFL Experience more (Value) and are all yes men or their gone.

He still has the best record in the league during his tenure with the Pats.
Still drinkin the Kool Aid.

[Resipsa]

Thanksully so is the rest of the AFC.:D

300 passing yards to The Sanchize??

the worst QB in the NFL??

Really??

Quite the defense:r:r

Paul, at least the Colts have a reason for sucking this year, and will be drafting high, AND get Manning back next year.

The Pats pain has only just begun:gary

[VTDragon]

Nice win against the Jets. Probably the most complete game the Pats have played this year. Thought it was interesting that Collingsworth quoted Brady as saying he needed to get back to basics and not try to be too cute with his passing. After a slow start, it seemed to work out.
Some thoughts:

Kudos to: the young guys on the Defensive line. They're coming along and, low and behold, the secondary doesn't look too bad when there is a real pass rush...speaking of which
: Anthony Carter, still lots of milage left in the old tank.
: Gronk and Hernandez both, Welker may have been covered but that just sprung these guys.
: Defensive back Julian Eddleman - nice tackle on Thomlinson

Ocho - well he bought himself another week - how dumb is this guy that he is just now figuring out the Pats offense? I mean, he's played football his entire life!

Concerns: Offensive line, really need to play better.
: Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis, just how much is he hurt?
: secondary - they're young and thin, that's good in a model, not an NFL secondary--hope these guys are working hard every day to get better, they will again face a coach who game plans to the oposition's weakness instead of his own falsly perceived strengths and they will be in trouble when they do. (Thanks for that game plan Rex)

Matt Casell and the Chiefs are up next.

[taltos]

300 passing yards to The Sanchize??

the worst QB in the NFL??

Really??

Quite the defense:r:r

Paul, at least the Colts have a reason for sucking this year, and will be drafting high, AND get Manning back next year.

The Pats pain has only just begun:garyVic, with the lockout and subsequent roster moves by the Pats, I had very low expectations for this team this season. In my mind a wild card spot was a victory. I do miss Peyton, the league is better with him playing.:tu

[mosesbotbol]

Ocho - well he bought himself another week - how dumb is this guy that he is just now figuring out the Pats offense? I mean, he's played football his entire life!

I wonder if they are playing him as dumb so when the play-off's come, the other teams now have to rewrite their defense?

Finally, Patriots have a defense, on par with their glory days. I would love to see stats about how the current defense rates against 10 years ago.

[Bruins Fan]

I'll be stunned if the Pats don't score 40 this week.:sl

[Resipsa]

I wonder if they are playing him as dumb so when the play-off's come, the other teams now have to rewrite their defense?

Finally, Patriots have a defense, on par with their glory days. I would love to see stats about how the current defense rates against 10 years ago.

Mosesmyou do know that out of 32 Nfl teams, te Pats have the 32nd ranked defense.

Jus sayin you MAYBE want to rethink your last post, :D

[mosesbotbol]

Mosesmyou do know that out of 32 Nfl teams, te Pats have the 32nd ranked defense.

Jus sayin you MAYBE want to rethink your last post, :D

How many sacks did the Pats have agains the Jets? The first half of season was very poor indeed, but you see the same Pats defense playing as back then? Even with all the injuries, they rocked it.

[VTDragon]

Nice win against the hapless Chiefs last night. Offense took some time to get on track, but finally got it going late in second quarter. Score could have been even more lopsided had Bill decided o actually TRY for TD's late in the game as opposed to just giving his running backs some work. Defense looked pretty good, had a decent pass rush and they only allowed 3 points. I know it was the Chiefs - with a new QB, but they're payed to play too. I just hope the defense doesn't become too self satisfied, as they will need to be better when they get into the playoffs against some good teams.
All in all a fun game to watch, worth staying up late. Next up - a Philly cheesesteak.

[VTDragon]

Good win against the "dream team" Eagles. Defense was awful at the beginning but came around after being greatly aided by the general ineptness of the Eagles. Tom Terrific was just that. Once he got in gear the Eagles defense did not really have a chance. Nice to see him back to spreading the ball around, but I'm sure that was simply a function of how the Eagle's defense was positioned.
All in all these are the types of games we have come to expect of Brady and this offense. As for the defense, not a lot of talant there, but they do seem to be playing the Hooded One's schemes pretty well and the overall group has improved as the season has progressed. We probably won't really see what they are made of until playoff time.
Up next ... the Colts; No, this year make that the Dolts.

[Bruins Fan]

Tom was very lucky to get out of the first quarter in one piece after the beating he was taking.:sl

[VTDragon]

Well, a win is a win. Pats played well during second and third quarters. Took a while to get started in the first, (defense needed to get off the field) and then there was the fourth. Someone forgot to tell the Colts that the game was over...Oh, wait a minute it wasn't. I'm sure Bill will remind the team of that lapse in judgement today..(yes, a rare Monday practice has been scheduled by a less than joyful holiday elf named Bill).

No accolades to give out, all were forfeited in the fourth quarter, even Gronk's.

Next up the Redskins. We'll need to play well ALL FOUR QUARTERS in this one.

[VTDragon]

Yes, we won down in Washington. No, it was not pretty.
Usually at this point I would moan and groan about the defense and how it is not going to be good enough in the playoffs...and I do beleive this. But, I'd like to offer a DIFFERENT look at how the defense has performed this year. This year's defense is probably Bill's best coaching effort in years while at the same time being his worst performance as a General Manager.
Bill the coach has taken a bunch of castoffs, third and fourth stringers and offensive players and created a defense that is in the middle of the pack in terms of points allowed, (yes, worst in the league in yards allowed, but yards don't win games, points do). We would all like to have the defense we had during the Super Bowl years and Bill has certainly made many drafting errors but, no other team in football has been able to remain at or near the top of their division for so long a period of time as have the Patriots. I guess Bill the GM has been doing a little bit right (notice for example how we have not really noticed the multiple changes in the offensive line- you know the guys who protect "The Franchise").
Having said all that... I think it will take a lot of smoke and mirrors for this team to go deep into the playoffs. Good offenses are going to eat them up.
Well, on to Denver to go up against the Mile High Miracle Maker. I expect I will need a big bottle of antacids for this one. Go Pats!

[LooseCard]

I'm going to have to agree with you, that Playoffs are going to be tough.

It was a great game, with a lot of action. EVERY time the 'skins got a good pass through, it was because their guy was WIDE open.
It didn't seem like we were firing on all cylinders throughout the game, but just in sections.

They'll have to be doing a lot better this next game, or we're going to feel the hurt...

Also, I'm glad to se that Occho has come around. The first half of the season was scary...
And Gronk... He reached up and plucked that throw out of the air, I swear!

[Bruins Fan]

I see a blowout in the making this week Denver should kill the Pats?
Tebow running the option,and passing in the zone behind the backers the safety's are so bad there is wide open space in front of them

Not only the D can't stop the pass it has gotten so bad they can't stop the run.

Ocho coming around your kidding,15 catches and he dropped to the ground when he caught a pass last week.

I was watching film of him and he is a freakin dog pulling a Moss can't get off the line and starts jogging when the play is still going on,that's why he is not playing?

BB would cut him in a heartbeat,but it would make him look so bad for signing him to big money.

Playoffs...this team will be one and done.

[BHalbrooks]

I wouldn't say one and done, but I don't see them getting past two games sadly.

I work at Sports Authority and this 19 year old came in and bought a Ochocinco Jersey ($120!) and we talked about 'em a bit. He's completely positive that BB is "Saving him for the Playoffs. That he's purposely playing like **** so teams that are double teaming Welker or Gronk 'forget' about him." I'm not kidding lol.

[Volusianator]

The Green Bay Packers are 13-0!

[fhrblig]

I see a blowout in the making this week Denver should kill the Pats?

Denver can't blowout anyone. Take it from a Broncos fan; they just don't play games that way. The day they can actually take a double-digit lead (even if it's 10 points) at the beginning of a game will be a very pleasant surprise.

The way they are winning, I'm either going to lose my voice or have a stroke (or both). Not that I'm complaining... :tu

[VTDragon]

Whew, what a game. Pats offense was as expected ... 41 points! Defense was another story. I could not believe how bad they were in the first quarter...and I thought we had already seen the worst they could be. BUT they made some adjustments, changed from 4-3 to 3-4, altered some blocking schemes and suddenly got more agressive (it helped that the offense continued to score). Bottom line, a win and we're the AFC East Champs.
During a week in which Green Bay lost, Indy won and the Jets looked just awful, for the Patriots to make the necessary adjustments during the game and come back from a miserable first quarter to beat the mile high messiah was a very positive development indeed. Just goes to show that they're still one of the very elite teams in league- even with the awful defense. BTW, Andre Carter will be missed - big time.
Special kudos this week to Aaron Hernandez and Mark Anderson, both really stepped it up. Let's not forget Gisele's husband either - he's so good that we've come to expect this type of game from him. No doubt- we New England fans are spoiled.
Next up is Miami on Christmas Eve. I hope the Pats don't overlook the reinvigorated Dolphins. That whole team is playing for their jobs now and could be very dangerous.
In the meantime ... NE Fans - bask in the sunshine of another AFC East Championship. :tu

[mosesbotbol]

Ocho Cinco TD!

[VTDragon]

Pretty late commenting on the Miami game, it's been busy. Let's just say I'm glad the offense changed over to a no-huddle for the second half and got on track. I did not recognize that team out there in the first half.
The good thing - We won and have a first round bye.
The bad - yikes - the first half!

I do not think there will be a lack of motivation for Buffalo this week after that early season loss, so... Pats should end up as #1 seed in AFC with home field until the Super Bowl. Just imagine, talking super bowl with the worst defense in the league :confused:. Maybe I'm delerious but ....

[VTDragon]

AFC East Champs - check
First Round Bye - check
Home Field throughout playoffs - check

and along the way - the best record in the AFC. All with no defense!

Congrats Pats on a great season. Ask yourself, why do you watch football? If it is to see great offensive play, watch a future hall of fame QB in his prime, cheer for a never say die team, and cheer for a team good enough to have the best record in football in that past decade then you should be a Patriots fan, like me. :)

Now still on the checklist:
win AFC championship _____
win Super Bowl ____

It should be fun to watch.

[Bruins Fan]

I'm a Pats fan, but you know what the Pats have not beaten a team with a winning record :sh
The playoffs are a whole different animal they will be one and done unless they get the Bangles first game?
The Pats get behind early like the last few weeks they will get blown out?
I hope not just being realistic.

[VTDragon]

Didn't play this week and still lots of news. In the "who woulda thunk it" catagory...we are going to play Tim Tebow and the Broncos AGAIN. Oh, and to make it more interesting we'll have Josh McDaniels on the sideline. You know, Hollywood writers wouldn't dare write this stuff - too implausible.
Here are my concerns:
* We won the first game primarily because of turnovers, I'm not so sure we can depend on them for this next one.
* Tebow listened to Elway and actually pulled the trigger a number of times vs. the Steelers - I know only 50% or so completions... but -well you know- Wow! If he throws deep like that against our secondary - bad news.
* Then there is this whole what I call "player perception" thing. Let me explain. I really believe that once a team has decisively beaten someone during a season that they come out flat for their second meeting. Witness the Patriots against the Jets last year. No matter how much the coaches drill them or the players themselves say what a great team the opponent is, deep down in their subconscious they feel that they are better and just don't play as hard. This also happens with teams that they ave not yet played, but just feel they are better than - witness the first Buffalo game this year or the deficits they have allowed themselves to get into the last three games. Short version: I'm real concerned about the Patriots coming out flat.
At any rate, we are about to be sujected to another week of Tebow hype. Bottom line is that we should beat these guys easily, but then again Pittsburgh should have too.

[Resipsa]

You're gonna get teeeboooowwweeeeddddddd.........

[mosesbotbol]

I'm a Pats fan, but you know what the Pats have not beaten a team with a winning record :sh
The playoffs are a whole different animal they will be one and done unless they get the Bangles first game?
The Pats get behind early like the last few weeks they will get blown out?
I hope not just being realistic.

No more Brady-Moss; on the scoreboard in 2 minutes. I agree, we need points early. 1st half has to be a success for both offense and defense.

[VTDragon]

You're gonna get teeeboooowwweeeeddddddd.........
Better than getting Polian......ed

[VTDragon]

My buddy just called with an extra ticket to tomorrows game...Yep I'm going... gonna be cold , but should be fun.

[Resipsa]

Better than getting Polian......ed

Couple of years from themPatsmwill be getting F(L)ucked on national tv by the Colts while Brady sits home drinking his Geritol,,:D

[chachee52]

There's a lot to love about this time of year!! I always worry about the Pats after a bye week in the playoffs. Most people say "gets the players the rest to recover", I say that it slows the momentum that they had. We haven't had some greats starts lately. I know that they have said that Brady's left arm is hurt, but ever since the Chargers game his right arm hasn't been well either in my opinion. I think that he injured it when he got tackled in that game and has been playing hurt.
Got offered tickets from my ex-boss but the wife has no job right now so from the couch I will be watching.
Hope everyone enjoys the game and I just heard that the first 20,000 people into the stadium get hand warmers!!!

[taltos]

You're gonna get teeeboooowwweeeeddddddd.........We have reverse holy water and pictures of naked ladies so we will distract Tebow.:D

[taltos]

Couple of years from themPatsmwill be getting F(L)ucked on national tv by the Colts while Brady sits home drinking his Geritol,,:DProbably beats Peyton trying to glue his head back onto his neck so that his share of the Geritol can actually be drunk. Vic go on you tube and look up tebowie and let me know what you think.:D

[Resipsa]

Probably beats Peyton trying to glue his head back onto his neck so that his share of the Geritol can actually be drunk. Vic go on you tube and look up tebowie and let me know what you think.:D

Im not totally sold on Tebow. But two things are self evident:

1) Tebow makes plays.

2) the Pats defense is horrible, probably the worst in the league.

And when a playmaker plays against a crappy defense, anything can happen:)

[E.J.]

As a Broncos fan, I am really just hoping for a chance at the end. Good luck!

[BHalbrooks]

5 TD's at half
Gronk with 3 TDs
300 passing yards.

[Coop]

Unless Tebow is replaced by Jesus, looks like the Pats will win

[SteelCityBoy]

Well, the Pats did what we couldn't!!! Should be a great AFC championship!

[icehog3]

Congrats to the Pats and their fans.

[chachee52]

Wow, not how I expected the Pats D to play!!! I'm glad that they finally did get something together though. I can't believe that Gronk had more yards than Tebow did all together!!!! That's awsome!!!!
I don't know who I'd rather play next week. Houston is the quiet team that's sneakign up on people. Haven't really seen much of them this season for me to like them or not.
Hope all of you that went yesterday are all thawed out now!!!!

[BSB]

Congratulations! Awesome performance!

[kugie]

Awesome performance.
That is the playoff team we missed the last few seasons.

Bring on the next opponent.

[VTDragon]

Now that was FUN, great win by a very motivated team. Both offense and defense obviously came to play. I'm thinking Denver is going to have a really tough decision about which way they want to go at QB for next year. BTW, thanks for firing Josh McDaniel and thanks too to St Louis for letting him go. We're happy to have him back in the fold.
Kudos to the whole team and coaching staff for a very good game plan that was very well executed. Only a couple of (minor) sour notes. TB made one very bad pass and it cost with Denver getting their only TD off the interception. I noticed that he blamed no one but himself on the sideline. Also, I questioned having so many starters still in there in the fourth quarter. Hopefully, Hernandez was not seriously hurt when he went off with some sort of head injury.
A fun thing that may have not been noticed on TV was that the entire stadium was yelling Teeeeeeeeeeeeeebow, Teeeeeeeeeeeeeebow in a derisive tone each time he appeared during the second half. :D
All in all the best game the Patriots have played all year.
Down to the final four now .... next up bigmouth Ray Lewis and the Ravens. Should be even more fun.

[mosesbotbol]

AFC Championship is going to be a game for the ages!

I was hoping Raven-Texans would be beat each other up more than they did. This is going to be the toughest game for the Pats in a long time.

[VTDragon]

Super Bowl

Patriots vs. Giants

Doesn't get any better than this.

Go Pats!

[MikeyC]

Less than one week away!

[BHalbrooks]

Awesome performance.
That is the playoff team we missed the last few seasons.

Bring on the next opponent.

I can't believe how the Defense is playing, especially Vince Wilfork. Seriously. What a beast.

[SNKBYT]

so far so good at the half:su

[VirtualSmitty]

Helluva game, but in the end



BIG BLUE


:D:D:D:D:D

[BSB]

Whata great game! Classic ending

[SNKBYT]

damn...........good game right to the end:gary

[Taki]

Sorry fella's I was really routing for the Pats...

[Gargoyle]

Was definitely hopeful the Pats would pull something out at the end. Congrats to the Giants!

[icehog3]

Awesome game to watch for a guy with no dog in the fight. :tu

[VTDragon]

Aargh...tough one to watch. Congrats Giants.
In the end the Giants made the plays and the Pats didnt,
Still a great season for an overachieving team.

[BHalbrooks]

Even though I hate New York Teams.... Eli and Manningham played great. Congrats to the Giants, you clearly earned it. Next year Pats, you've nothing to be ashamed of, except for losing :(

[kelmac07]

Congrats to the Giants...was a hell of a game. :tu :tu

[TonySmith]

Congrats to the Giants...was a hell of a game. :tu :tu

Yes good game....I won some money, which is beside the point....lol

[Blueface]

Regardless of who you were for, what an awesome game.
An example of the way all Super Bowls should be played.
Kudos to both teams as the py both deserved to be there.
Just glad in the end, as a giants fan, they won.

[chachee52]

Being a huge Pats fan and looks for things to nit-pick on, i could not find any. It was a well played game. I still disagree with Brady trying to go deep for Gronk. It was about 5-10 yards short (not because Gronk had an "ankle sprain"). In the end, our secondary just couldn't keep up. That's been our weakness all season. I am still suprised we made it that far!!
Great game, and although I hate to say it, Congrat Griants.

[longknocker]

Congrats To The Giants! Exciting Game!:tu

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Some really awful dropped passes by the Pats WR's. Brady made some mistakes as well, but mostly the WR's stopped the Pats from moving up field the last 38 seconds.

[KenyanSandBoa]

Some really awful dropped passes by the Pats WR's. Brady made some mistakes as well, but mostly the WR's stopped the Pats from moving up field the last 38 seconds.

Yeah, that was painful to watch. Welker's drop killed me...and I didn't like that long pass to Gronk that got picked...that seemed like a REALLY bad decision.

Congrats to the Giants...they played one hell of a game...and Eli is clearly a beast in the 4th.

[Subvet642]

http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/khaaan.jpg

Manning!

[KenyanSandBoa]

http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/khaaan.jpg

Manning!

:r:r:r...that just about sums it up. :tu

[Wanger]

Yeah, that was painful to watch. Welker's drop killed me...and I didn't like that long pass to Gronk that got picked...that seemed like a REALLY bad decision.

Congrats to the Giants...they played one hell of a game...and Eli is clearly a beast in the 4th.

Doesn't hurt that he had yet another miraculous catch by a receiver on the game winning drive. Change anything one inch with that pass to Manningham, and it's incomplete. Was about as perfect as it could be, to be a catch.

I'm thinking he threw the ball short, because he might have shortarmed the throw on that pick just a bit in the anticipation of the shot that was being lined up on him.

I think next year is setting up even better for the Pats, though, with the draft picks they have this year. They have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, if I'm not mistaken, right?

...and let me state, as a Vikings fan, I hate the Giants.

[themoneycollector]

It was pretty good game overall.

I think once the Giants made that big play to get into fg range, the pats should have let them just make the td. Instead, they let them waste 2 more minutes off the clock, used up their to's and still ended up handing them the td just so they could get the ball back. It would have given them the ball with 3 minutes instead of 1 to come up with a game winning td. But of course it's all clear in hindsight.

The other one was that defensive penalty that the giants made with 12 men on the field, they didn't reset the clock and that was strange to me.

[kugie]

I got noth'en :gary

[massphatness]

I think next year is setting up even better for the Pats, though, with the draft picks they have this year. They have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, if I'm not mistaken, right?

They'll trade down for 8 thirds and 12 fourths.

And they'll make the playoffs again.

And my torment will continue.

[shilala]

They'll trade down for 8 thirds and 12 fourths.

And they'll make the playoffs again.

And my torment will continue.
At least you can cuddle up in your Patriots blanket. :lr

[Dave128]

It was a great game!

[Wanger]

They'll trade down for 8 thirds and 12 fourths.

And they'll make the playoffs again.

And my torment will continue.

LMAO!!!:r

[mosesbotbol]

Clock was not in their favor once again. I did not think they were a Superbowl team, but oh well. There's next season. Giants won fair and square.

Wes and Hernandez had to drop the ball on this game of all games?

[Bruins Fan]

Looks like another trip to the Super Bowl?
All I can say is WOW..How about the two first round draft picks already impact players. :tu

[mosesbotbol]

Looks like another trip to the Super Bowl?
All I can say is WOW..How about the two first round draft picks already impact players. :tu

85 is living up to what Ocho Cinco only dreamed he'd achieve on the Pats. We are looking Super Bowl bound already. Hopefully a younger crew won't be as beat up come the Playoff's.

Really liking what I am seeing. Could you believe their rushing game! Brady has got to real happy that they can run the ball some too. Keeping the defense on their toes.

[MikeyC]

85 is living up to what Ocho Cinco only dreamed he'd achieve on the Pats. We are looking Super Bowl bound already. Hopefully a younger crew won't be as beat up come the Playoff's.

Really liking what I am seeing. Could you believe their rushing game! Brady has got to real happy that they can run the ball some too. Keeping the defense on their toes.

Pats did look real good this week. I'm not declaring them Superbowl champs just yet. I want to see them do this a few weeks in a row. This is too small of a body of work to make any kind of judgement.

However, watching this game did make me . . . :noon

[BHalbrooks]

Should be another great year for Tom Brady & Company.
Just got a DVR today to record some College and NFL games, since I work 2/3 Sundays and Saturdays

[VTDragon]

Well now we're 1 -2 and Belicheck's pocket is $50K lighter. You need a bit more control there coach.
The good:
* The regular refs are back -starting tonight
* This young team has had their wakeup call (I hope)
* The schedule is looking a LOT softer from here out
* Welker will be rested for the important games at the end of the season
* B Lloyd is "catching" on pretty well
* Ridley has not fumbled (you know I hated to write that, I sense a curse coming)
* Brady

The bad:
* Hernandez
* This team needs to step it up to show it can beat the NFL's elite teams, especially the O-Line and secondary (still)
* McDaniels late game play calling. As the old Vermonter said "you dance with the one who brung ya" .... can't be a nice pass/run mix until the fourth quarter and then abandon the pass altogether when you need to hold onto it.

[mosesbotbol]

The recievers could do better getting open, especially in their play againn AZ. I'd like to see our Defense have an impact on the QB more.

I am digging Lloyd and he should have great numbers by season end.

[massphatness]

<<<<< Bills fan

Interested to see if the Bills free agent spending on the D-line pays dividends Sunday. Brady just isn't Brady when he gets pressure up the middle.

[mosesbotbol]

Wow, have you ever seen better punting and special teams from the Pats? Just amazing every punt they did against the Bills.