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Bill86
08-29-2010, 02:45 PM
so far my only humidification is the 4oz humicare jar. My humidity is falling consistently. It's at 61 RH right now, I'm a bit worried if it drops below 60 RH. Do I need different humidification? I have a 300 count el diablo humidor. My cigars are smoking good though.

pnoon
08-29-2010, 02:47 PM
Beads.
Heartfelt or Shilala.

icehog3
08-29-2010, 02:49 PM
Beads.
Heartfelt or Shilala.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/bingo.jpg

Bill86
08-29-2010, 02:55 PM
Wow 2 team of 11 responses BANG just like that, I feel like a celebrity thanks guys! I will order them right now. For a 2100 ISH Cubic CM Humidor how much beads should I order?

icehog3
08-29-2010, 02:58 PM
Bill, I believe the Heartfelt site can give you the amount needed, and I would assume the amount would be the same for the shilala beads. :tu

Bill86
08-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Bill, I believe the Heartfelt site can give you the amount needed, and I would assume the amount would be the same for the shilala beads. :tu

Thanks again, I'll have them shipped with wicked quickness and correct my humidor RH. I have a feeling that's why I'm having issues with the "self ashing"

icehog3
08-29-2010, 03:01 PM
Thanks again, I'll have them shipped with wicked quickness and correct my humidor RH. I have a feeling that's why I'm having issues with the "self ashing"

The cigars should burn much better with the improved humidification, Bill. :tu

Bill86
08-29-2010, 03:04 PM
The cigars should burn much better with the improved humidification, Bill. :tu

I'll be sure to test this out and stop smoking all my $15 cigars until the better humidification comes in. Thanks !

darkleeroy
08-29-2010, 03:17 PM
I'll be sure to test this out and stop smoking all my $15 cigars until the better humidification comes in. Thanks !

Also, a 300 ct Diablo is a pretty big humidor, have you seasoned it yet?

Bill86
08-29-2010, 03:26 PM
Also, a 300 ct Diablo is a pretty big humidor, have you seasoned it yet?


Yes It is seasoned, I didn't know that was considered a big humidor....it realistically probably only holds 225 cigars. 300 Is a gross overestimate. I have probably 150 ish cigars in it, couldn't imagine fitting more than 75 addition cigars in it. Unless I'm jamming up the poor thing. I'm betting the count doesn't consider the obvious (humidification + Hygro *not the crappy one they give you, but a GOOD digital one*)

darkleeroy
08-29-2010, 03:42 PM
Yes It is seasoned, I didn't know that was considered a big humidor....it realistically probably only holds 225 cigars. 300 Is a gross overestimate. I have probably 150 ish cigars in it, couldn't imagine fitting more than 75 addition cigars in it. Unless I'm jamming up the poor thing. I'm betting the count doesn't consider the obvious (humidification + Hygro *not the crappy one they give you, but a GOOD digital one*)

It's not huge, but I'd imagine it isn't small either. As far desktops are concerned, it's on the big side. Compared to Tom's hugeador of awesomeness, not so much.

Bill86
08-29-2010, 03:51 PM
I got ya, yeah it is a bit big even for a desktop. I have mine stored in the closet where it gets no sun and probably a temp of 70 ish degrees. Very not hot. I take care of it, even if it was only like $110. Though I realize I'll either have to smoke more or buy another humidor.

Bill86
08-29-2010, 06:07 PM
Ok so I'm at heartfelt and they say there extra large tube does 2000 cubic inches I'm like 74 cubic inches over, am I still good for the tube or .....what? I'd hate to go grossly higher for a SLIGHT bit amount of space, also looking at ordering a Palio carbon fiber cutter.

Emjaysmash
08-29-2010, 06:41 PM
You can never have too many beads!

get the Palio too!

icehog3
08-29-2010, 07:05 PM
Ok so I'm at heartfelt and they say there extra large tube does 2000 cubic inches I'm like 74 cubic inches over, am I still good for the tube or .....what? I'd hate to go grossly higher for a SLIGHT bit amount of space, also looking at ordering a Palio carbon fiber cutter.

You should be fine with that, Bill.

Bill86
08-29-2010, 07:07 PM
You should be fine with that, Bill.

That's what I figured but I didn't want to order something then have to do it again immediately.

You can never have too many beads!

get the Palio too!

Done

bobarian
08-29-2010, 08:57 PM
You will love both your beads and the Palio. Congrats.

pnoon
08-29-2010, 09:01 PM
You could always get Aqua Gems (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35765). :r

Bill86
08-29-2010, 09:28 PM
You could always get Aqua Gems (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35765). :r

Anything that goes in flower pots isn't going near my cigars.

You will love both your beads and the Palio. Congrats.

Thanks bob!

pnoon
08-29-2010, 09:29 PM
Anything that goes in flower pots isn't going near my cigars.


I was joking, Bill. Did you see the :r after my remark?

Bill86
08-29-2010, 09:30 PM
Oh I know, I was too ! I forgot a smiley

NCRadioMan
08-29-2010, 09:32 PM
I have a small humicare-jar in one of my 500 ct. Vicksburgs. Keeps steady 63%. I recharge it every few months. I like 'em.

dwoodward
08-30-2010, 08:49 AM
Isn't there a rule about recharging the humi-care jars with 50/50 solution every few months? I forget.

Beads are easier tho.

Bill86
08-30-2010, 10:06 PM
I only had the Humicare jar setup for 2-3 weeks tops. Definitely not longer than a month.

The beads are on their way with a palio cutter. Hopefully this works better.

OLS
08-31-2010, 10:01 AM
Beads.
Heartfelt or Shilala.
Beads....Heartfelt.

itzfrank
08-31-2010, 11:52 AM
CigarNut on here is in charge of Shilala. You can PM him directly to get answers about the dimensions.

T.G
08-31-2010, 12:10 PM
Isn't there a rule about recharging the humi-care jars with 50/50 solution every few months? I forget.

Beads are easier tho.

No, just distilled water. PG would just be wasted.

I'm not sure how you can make the blanket assertion that "Beads are easier".

It really depends on your local area climate. For some climates, one product is going to work better than the other, and vice-versa in other climates. Each one has some properties that the other lacks.

I use both in coolers, have been for years. Where I live, the gel actually requires much less attention. I charge it once every 4-6 months and thats it. Beads go about a month or month and a half between recharges. Since that's all I do to both of them, I guess that actually makes gel easier here for the type of service I'm using it for, while someone in a different cliamte might have different results.

Bill86
08-31-2010, 12:37 PM
Yeah I just used distilled water.

Beads....Heartfelt.

Yeah I ordered the heartfelt beads not sure when they'll be here, probably Wednesday.

dwoodward
08-31-2010, 01:50 PM
No, just distilled water. PG would just be wasted.

I'm not sure how you can make the blanket assertion that "Beads are easier".

It really depends on your local area climate. For some climates, one product is going to work better than the other, and vice-versa in other climates. Each one has some properties that the other lacks.

I use both in coolers, have been for years. Where I live, the gel actually requires much less attention. I charge it once every 4-6 months and thats it. Beads go about a month or month and a half between recharges. Since that's all I do to both of them, I guess that actually makes gel easier here for the type of service I'm using it for, while someone in a different cliamte might have different results.

I use Shilala beads in my main humidor and the humicare gel in my smaller humidor. The beads are a lot more stable and never need to be touched. Therefore, easier in my opinion.

T.G
08-31-2010, 08:40 PM
I use Shilala beads in my main humidor and the humicare gel in my smaller humidor. The beads are a lot more stable and never need to be touched. Therefore, easier in my opinion.

That's much better.

Bill86
09-02-2010, 04:02 AM
Got my beads and cutter in today. Beads are holding a nice 66 RH (65 RH beads). I'm waiting to try the cutter maybe today later on I'll test it out.

longknocker
09-02-2010, 04:08 AM
Got my beads and cutter in today. Beads are holding a nice 66 RH (65 RH beads). I'm waiting to try the cutter maybe today later on I'll test it out.

:banger:tu Now You Can Enjoy Your Smokes, Brother!:D

Bill86
09-03-2010, 03:53 AM
The beads are working fantastic, I tried the cutter today. Only cutter I've ever used that started to pinch the cigar. To me my Palio feels like there is too much resistance when cutting. Or maybe I just have to get use to it.

I got about half the cigar smoked before it self ashed. MUCH better than the 3-4 self ashings I dealt with before. :tu to heartfelt beads

icehog3
09-03-2010, 07:39 AM
How much do you cut on your cigar, Bill? If I am using a Palio on a cigar with a regular (not torpedo) head, I just barely shave off the top of the cap. The sharp blades make it a cinch.

Bill86
09-03-2010, 02:39 PM
Got ya perhaps I am taking off too much. I'll give it another go around today. That explains it, I was like what the hell my cheap $2 guillotine will do that in 2 seconds.

bobarian
09-03-2010, 03:21 PM
Yup, just the very top maybe 1/8". Also, use a quick squeeze not a slow deliberate cut. I also moisten the top in my mouth before cutting. :2

icehog3
09-03-2010, 05:03 PM
I also moisten the top in my mouth before cutting. :2

:np