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colinb913
08-07-2010, 05:10 PM
I have been hunting with friends, and shooting with friends, however I want to take it farther. I already own a few pellet guns, and shoot target with them a lot but I want to get a few better target guns (savage or the like). As in a real gun. I am a great shot (a grizzly dip can from 100 yards with a pellet gun). I need help convincing my parents that I can take this seriously as a sport, and it's something I truly enjoy. Any tips from parents before I jump right into this with my stubborn parents? Thanks so much guys, y'all are like family to me.

Brutus2600
08-07-2010, 05:31 PM
In all honesty the convincing it took was for me to finally move out. My grandpa and uncle were always gun-toting Texans, and I always went shooting with them, but even though I was old enough to own a gun my dad was dead-set that no guns were allowed in his house.

Anyway...not much help for ya, but just thought I'd share the fact that it might not happen until you have your own place if he's pretty set in his ways.

colinb913
08-07-2010, 05:39 PM
That's pretty close to my dad. "nothing comes good of guns". I just need to find a way to prove him wrong.

pektel
08-07-2010, 05:39 PM
my advice is to cut the cord and stake your own claim. That way you only answer to you. Well, you and the cops.

colinb913
08-07-2010, 05:45 PM
Still in highschool..

bsmokin
08-07-2010, 05:51 PM
"You'll shoot your eye out"

Sorry... I just had to.

colinb913
08-07-2010, 05:53 PM
That was moms first reaction.. After seeing my shot she wants me to get into it Now.

bobarian
08-07-2010, 06:05 PM
Take your dad to the range. :banger

Cigarcop
08-07-2010, 06:10 PM
Join a Rifle/Pistol club in your area. They have programs and shooting events for the beginners to advanced marksmen.

colinb913
08-07-2010, 06:10 PM
I wish, how should I get him there???

Ranger_B
08-07-2010, 06:12 PM
Well I am still starting out with this whole parent thing as Step parent goes. However, in my Day job I feel as though I act as part parent part leader to many of my younger guys. I have taught many of them to drive ect. Guns are a great responsibility and if you have already stepped into a pellet gun you are already there. It is still a projectile that could still cause harm. I would go to gun facts.info and study the arguments you know your parents are to make and then arm yourself with the info to better your argument. I dont know your whole family dynamic or anything however as you will see the older you get the more you need to be informed before getting into any discussion. Guidance counselor hat off. Best of luck. I know the NRA and many schools do .22LR target classes and matches might be worth bringing them to one with you.

Cigarcop
08-07-2010, 06:13 PM
I wish, how should I get him there???

This ain't rocket science..."hey dad, I reallly would like to join a rifle club and learn how to shoot and I'd like you to tag along"..then tell him you love him...how could he say no. :tu

NCRadioMan
08-07-2010, 06:18 PM
This ain't rocket science..."hey dad, I reallly would like to join a rifle club and learn how to shoot and I'd like you to tag along"..then tell him you love him...how could he say no. :tu

That's as good as it gets, imo.

If he still says no, you will simply have to wait until you are on your own.

I love to tell people who are against guns that free people own guns, slaves don't.

Cigarcop
08-07-2010, 06:46 PM
Then tell his this is what you were thinking about buying!!! :r :r

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0da09b3127ccef9ade07d1a1a00000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/

bobarian
08-07-2010, 06:59 PM
This ain't rocket science..."hey dad, I reallly would like to join a rifle club and learn how to shoot and I'd like you to tag along"..then tell him you love him...how could he say no. :tu

:tpd: Tell him that you would like to take the safety classes with him. :tu

When you are looking to buy your first gun, stick to something simple like a Ruger 10/22. Stick to iron sites for a while and maybe ask for a scope for Christmas. .22 is a relatively inexpensive gun to shoot and fun for you both. :2

mosesbotbol
08-07-2010, 07:29 PM
That's pretty close to my dad. "nothing comes good of guns". I just need to find a way to prove him wrong.

Listen to him. That is not to say guns can prevent much worse situations from happening too.

If you have to respect the rules of the house you are living in. If guns are that important of an issue, perhaps you can lock them at a gun club or just move out.

I love shooting guns and my dad is avid collector, but I would not own one and repsect all sides of the fense when it comes to gun ownership.

ridenlive
08-07-2010, 07:52 PM
I would go to a local hunter's safety course. They are usually provided by game and fish you can contact your local office(google your county). After that tell your dad what you did and if that doesn't work then move out on your 21st birthday and get a concealed weapons license and then your parents never know that your packing heat problem solved.:tu:2

colinb913
08-07-2010, 08:08 PM
Well I was out shooting my air rifle in the back.. He actually came out and joined me. I think my mom gave him a push, he seemed to enjoy the challenge of hitting the bulls eye. I plan on sticking with a small caliber .22 or .17 hmr. Nothing like the .50 someone suggested. ;) i would have to buy a cabinet or safe. But I think if he sees me dropping cash on safety first before the gun he would be a little more comfortable with a gun in his house. Any ways, I think i can get him to shoot with me a little tomorrow night too, just keep working at it. We defiantly showed some progress tonight, guys thanks fr all the advice.

Riff Raff
08-07-2010, 08:09 PM
:tpd: Tell him that you would like to take the safety classes with him. :tu

I agree with this suggestion as well. By doing this, it demonstrates a few things. One: you are serious enough about this that you are willing to do what it takes to be safe and educated.

Two: That you want to do this with him as well. This is something fathers and sons have been doing for a long, long time. It is excellent bonding.

Three: The main concerns parents have is for safety. This course gives you both the proper tools you need to understand firearm safety and how to conduct yourselves when handling firearms.

Just my $0.02.

colinb913
08-07-2010, 08:19 PM
Well in the boy scouts we took a safety course, so he knows aim well off on that, however I will have to retake the course to get a hunting license.

icehog3
08-07-2010, 11:43 PM
That's pretty close to my dad. "nothing comes good of guns". I just need to find a way to prove him wrong.

Maybe his thought is not wrong....for him. Make your case, then respect his decision while you live under his roof, even if you disagree with it. :2

ValorBali41
08-08-2010, 12:21 AM
Tell him it will only be a range and hunting gun, and if he wants it to be, a home defense gun. Take the safety courses, and show that you can be responsible.

Also, tell your dad that you will buy a safety device: CLICK (Inexpensive yet effective) (http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/43695?pi=752629&subrnd=0&qs=3021021_pmd_nextag) That only he will have the keys to. And tell him that you will store ammo in the garage in a lockbox as well which he will have the key to. Plus you won't have to buy a full safe.

Good Luck! :cool2:

mosesbotbol
08-08-2010, 07:15 AM
It sounds like it's beyond the safety course that his parent's are against. It's just having guns in the house. Some people just don't want guns in the house like they don't want snakes on a plane, lol...

Even if you told your parents the guns would be partially disassembled, in a safe, with trigger locks, they would not go for it. You have to respect "their" rules.

The same can be said for many activities from sex to religion that may strike a dischord between generations.

ValorBali41
08-08-2010, 09:46 AM
You could keep it at the range or in a storage place. Or in a shed in your back yard. It isn't in his house then :D

TripleF
08-08-2010, 09:53 AM
Colin -
Remember this.....A Man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still.

If you're Dad doesn't want anything to do with guns or you having them, there's nothing you can do to change his mind. Sorry, but that's the truth. You'll grasp this truth completely as your become more experienced in life.

Keep shooting when you can!! :tu

CigarNut
08-08-2010, 12:05 PM
...Make your case, then respect his decision while you live under his roof, even if you disagree with it. :2This is really important. As Tom said, make your case. Use logic, don't whine. It should be a discussion, not an argument. Whether or not you get what you want, be sure to thank him for listening. Prove to him that you are a man, not a child. This will help you in any future discussions.

colinb913
08-08-2010, 12:45 PM
Well like I said me ax him were shooting yesterday out back, and he said he wants to do it again sometime soon. So things are going in the right direction.