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Hoosierguy
07-26-2010, 04:25 PM
I live on a slab with no air conditioning. That means that the temps in my house in the summer are not good for storing cigars. Today, I came up with a great (but possibly crazy) idea that I wanted to run past y'all.
I'm thinking about digging a four foot deep hole and inserting an 8" diameter PVC pipe. I would then hang a travel caddy humidor inside the pipe at the depth needed to acheive 68-70 degrees. The top of the pipe would be capped and locked!
Does this seem totally crazy or like a fun and functional weekend project?
The cigars would only spend the hot summer months in the pipe. The others, they would spend in my house at 70*+-.
I need some encouragement/help to move forward.:rolleyes:
longknocker
07-26-2010, 04:28 PM
I live on a slab with no air conditioning. That means that the temps in my house in the summer are not good for storing cigars. Today, I came up with a great (but possibly crazy) idea that I wanted to run past y'all.
I'm thinking about digging a four foot deep hole and inserting an 8" diameter PVC pipe. I would then hang a travel caddy humidor inside the pipe at the depth needed to acheive 68-70 degrees. The top of the pipe would be capped and locked!
Does this seem totally crazy or like a fun and functional weekend project?
The cigars would only spend the hot summer months in the pipe. The others, they would spend in my house at 70*+-.
I need some encouragement/help to move forward.:rolleyes:
Sounds Interesting, But what do I know?:r GL!:tu
MajorCaptSilly
07-26-2010, 04:33 PM
I'm gonna say that's kinda crazy. For someone whose name is MajorCaptSilly to say it's crazy, it's pretty crazy. I say buy a cooler and put it in the coolest part of your house. It will insulate the contents from much of the heat on the outside and will also help regulate humidity. Remember, it only gets dangerous if the temp of your humidor gets above 80 degrees. I would also recommend freezing your cigars to kill off any beetles.
MCS
md4958
07-26-2010, 04:42 PM
I would love to encourage you, but it seems like a helluva lotta work to store a small amount of cigars. If youre gonna be storing less than a dozen cigars, I dont really think you have to worry about the temps. Freezing can help any beetle concerns, and if youre storing a lot more cigars you may want to consider a Vinotemp type unit.
If you search Freezing or Vinotemp here Im sure youll find a ton of info on it.
neoflex
07-26-2010, 04:44 PM
Hmmm, 12 posts which means your new here. If you plan on sticking around and following through with your plan I say make the hole 8ft wide not 8". We are a bad influence and soon your collection will outgrow an 8" hole.:r
To stay on topic, I think your plan is pretty drastic. May want to do a search for Vino. May be a more practical solution.
Commander Quan
07-26-2010, 04:50 PM
If you are just talking about a small amount of cigars, like the amount you can fit into a caddy, I say just smoke them. They'll be fine.
Thread Jack//
Does anyone remember the guy at the other site who wanted to test the long term effects of aging, and wanted to bury a cooler in his yard filled with cigars and a hose running to the surface for fresh air?
E-Tx Surveyor
07-26-2010, 04:51 PM
Burying them seems somewhat drastic. I would go with a vino if the funds permit, if they don't I would explore other options first.
I don't know if this would work, if it's a small enough number why not go with a small tupperware in the fridge with beads?
massphatness
07-26-2010, 04:52 PM
Would there be dynamite involved? Your plan would be really cool with some dynamite to create the hole.
Or a Vino. But that's nowhere near as awe-inspiring.
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icehog3
07-26-2010, 04:54 PM
Bury 'em. Bury 'em all, I say. That would be the coolest thing ever...well, except for that thing MajorCaptSilly did once.
longknocker
07-26-2010, 04:56 PM
I'm Still Interested in the concept! Wouldn't want to go to too much trouble or ruin any good cigars, though.:)
longknocker
07-26-2010, 04:56 PM
Bury 'em. Bury 'em all, I say. That would be the coolest thing ever...well, except for that thing MajorCaptSilly did once.
Glad someone's with me!:banger
Hoosierguy
07-26-2010, 05:18 PM
Well, I do want to bury more than 10. I've quickly found out that I can save some money buying samplers. So, I would be storing 20-40 (probably).
If I do it, I'll be sure to post pictures. That's for sure!
waffle
07-26-2010, 05:22 PM
Well, I do want to bury more than 10. I've quickly found out that I can save some money buying samplers. So, I would be storing 20-40 (probably).
If I do it, I'll be sure to post pictures. That's for sure!
The biggest concern I see is seepage from ground water... in Indiana, typically they say groundwater is about 30" below surface (also freeze line). You have to seriously consider the issues there.... but other than that, from a guy thats spent lots of time in large sewer pipe, your smoke will love the cool ;)
Hoosierguy
07-26-2010, 05:42 PM
Water tight is not a problem. Solvent glued will take care of that.
The structure of choice has yet to be determined. I will work on it this Thursday.
Let me know if you have any suggestions!
Prozac_Puros
07-26-2010, 05:52 PM
Would there be dynamite involved? Your plan would be really cool with some dynamite to create the hole.
Or a Vino. But that's nowhere near as awe-inspiring.
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I vote with Vin, Blow something up..... Oh and take pics
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dwoodward
07-26-2010, 05:54 PM
Guy 1: Want a cigar man?
Guy 2: Yeah sure
Guy 1: Hold on I gotta go dig them up outta my backyard.
Guy 2: Okay... Wait.. What?!
jonumberone
07-26-2010, 06:11 PM
Am I the only one wondering, what else he's got buried in the backyard? :lv
Emjaysmash
07-26-2010, 06:22 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5Ug-IbdVhbQ/SZCtVVOFf6I/AAAAAAAAAJk/oyIlHAvoi9Y/s400/pirates-night-outer-banks.jpg
dwoodward
07-26-2010, 06:33 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/10/24/129009141687360480.jpg
:r:r:r
whodeeni
07-26-2010, 07:06 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/10/24/129009141687360480.jpg
:r:r:r
Sounds a little drastic brotha... why don't you check craigslist, and a couple
of other sites.... It's been 90+ The whole damn summer down here and
all of my cigars are fine! You can even use an old beverage/dorm style
refrigerator (leave it unplugged and get you some humidity beads and be well
on your way!
It sounds as though you're an engineer of sorts, and this is something you're
bent on doing so good luck my friend!:tu
rhmalone
07-26-2010, 07:12 PM
What the hay right, it's friggin' IN in the middle of summer... why not. But seriously call before you dig!
rhmalone
07-26-2010, 07:13 PM
Where in IN are you from... just wondering?
darkleeroy
07-26-2010, 07:36 PM
Go the whole nine yards, buy a box, seal the pvc with proper humidification and bury them 2 yards deep for 10 years. Then be presently surprised in the future. It's a herf capsule!!!
If you want easy access to them but have a way to keep them from getting too hot, I'd just start a coolerdor, it's not terribly expensive.
Hoosierguy
07-26-2010, 07:45 PM
Hey, where are you guys buying your beads?
BC-Axeman
07-26-2010, 07:59 PM
I second the freeze them and put them in a cooler suggestion and also the 8 ft. dia. hole suggestion. You could bury one of those plastic water tanks.
dwoodward
07-26-2010, 08:07 PM
Hey, where are you guys buying your beads?
There are two general ones that most people around here use..
http://shilalasbeads.com/
or
http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/
I have been using Shilala's beads and for the last two weeks my humidity has been rock solid at 67%. (I charged them before use slightly as per the instructions on the website to raise the RH a bit, I like my cigars a little moist.)
bobarian
07-26-2010, 08:11 PM
WTF???????:confused:
Why would you want to do this? Seems like 3 days in the freezer is a whole lot easier than digging a frickin hole! But if you must be sure and take some pics.
gvarsity
07-26-2010, 08:12 PM
If you are just talking about a small amount of cigars, like the amount you can fit into a caddy, I say just smoke them. They'll be fine.
Thread Jack//
Does anyone remember the guy at the other site who wanted to test the long term effects of aging, and wanted to bury a cooler in his yard filled with cigars and a hose running to the surface for fresh air?
When I first read this I immediately back to that thread. He put down a bunch of cigars in like a footlocker or something planning on 10+ years of aging or something. Definitely pretty extreme.
Wharf Rat
07-26-2010, 08:20 PM
Do you have a house built on a slab? If so, the slab should be relatively cool. Put the humidor on the slab and a Styrofoam picnic cooler over it.
Skywalker
07-26-2010, 08:31 PM
I say get some balloons or a hot air balloon and float them up high where the air is much cooler!!!;)
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/i30cwlaunch-balloonlihouett.jpg
groogs
07-26-2010, 08:43 PM
I used to live in an apartment that got up to 90 during the summer. I bought a 150qt cooler and put my humidors in the cooler. I also put an ice pack wraped in a towel in the cooler and changed it daily. Doing that will keep your cigars cool without sucking all the humidy out of the air. It worked pretty well, and then I filled the cooler with cigars, and had to buy a house with AC. It may sound crazy, but so does digging a hole in the back yard for your cigars.
The best advice in my opinion is to freeze them and move on.:tu
Burying cigars, like a squirrel buries nuts?
http://i12.tinypic.com/4zch639.jpg
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...
bscottskangum
07-26-2010, 09:09 PM
Doesn't Drew Estate already do this....hence the Drew Estate Natural Dirt
Seriously tho, get a cooler
SaltyMcGee
07-26-2010, 09:46 PM
My friend, if you stay around here long enough, I guarantee that you will soon need to figure out storage for many more cigars than 20-40. I'm with John, get yourself an insulated cooler (bigger than what you think you need here), throw your 20-40 cigars in there and put it in the absolute coolest part of the house.
Then be prepared to buy another cooler!:D
SaltyMcGee
07-26-2010, 09:47 PM
http://i12.tinypic.com/4zch639.jpg
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...
:r:r:r:r
whodeeni
07-27-2010, 05:19 AM
:r:r
:tpd: x 10!:tu
mosesbotbol
07-27-2010, 05:42 AM
Most the cigar producing countries are well above 70 all summer long. Many lack air conditioning yet the cigars are fine.
Hoosierguy
07-27-2010, 06:20 AM
Do you have a house built on a slab? If so, the slab should be relatively cool. Put the humidor on the slab and a Styrofoam picnic cooler over it.
It's been a hot summer, and my slab is at a constant 80 degrees. If I'm going to have money in cigars, I don't want to worry about them. I'm good at worrying and a couple of hours in the backyard will be worth the trouble. Actually, it will be fun!
I'm used to cellar temps for wine and beer, so it makes sense that cigars would prefer those temps over the 80-90s of July and August.
The plan, so far, is to use a 4' long section of 8 or 12" dia. pvc with a solvent weld cap on the end. Dig a hole and insert. I'll figure out a locking cap or maybe just use a screw cap and hope that none of the local cigar smoking kids find my stash!
I will talk with a local supplier of pvc, etc. today. I may opt for a larger diameter pipe if it makes sense.
Texan in Mexico
07-27-2010, 07:13 AM
So yesterday I read this thread and when I saw MCS say it was a silly idea I thought to myself,
"Self? There is no way this is going any farther, I mean the local authority on all things silly has deemed this one sillier than a monkey on a rock wearing a tin oil hat eating banana cream pie!"
So I buried the memory of my Mom´s family burying jarred unripened corn mash in the Army ammo cans sealed with cosmoline three feet down during the hot Mississippi summers for the same reason.
Will it work? If you seal correctly and keep the sticks in a water resistant packaging yeah it will work.
Is it worth 36 hours of digging, putting it together, burying and sealing?
Well, that depends on what kind of man you are!
Ha ha ha, I´m sorry, I just think this would be a very cool project although it would probably end up being more economical and efficient with a cooler and some beads however it would be something that hasnt been done here yet.
Best of luck and please let us know how it goes, I hope there arent too many rocks in your yard!
Respectfully,
Travis
elderboy02
07-27-2010, 07:18 AM
This is going to be cool to watch :)
icehog3
07-27-2010, 07:36 AM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Toga.jpg
kaisersozei
07-27-2010, 07:44 AM
If it's good enough for kimchee, it's good enough for.... oh, wait. :pu
Actually, I say go for it. :tu You'll have your own little cigar cellar. This will be fun to watch.
I say get some balloons or a hot air balloon and float them up high where the air is much cooler!!!;)
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Skywalker again.
Don't forget to make yourself a pirates treasure map... just in case something happens and one of us gotta go dig this thing up. -(P
Hoosierguy
07-27-2010, 07:46 AM
I won't let nay-sayers get me down and keep me from completing this highly important project. That said, I DO appreciate any support I can get.
I've got a friendly supplier of pvc, etc. looking into options for me.
longknocker
07-27-2010, 07:53 AM
This is going to be cool to watch :)
Pics!:banger:tu
shilala
07-27-2010, 07:55 AM
Why don't you build a root cellar? Then you can keep your beer, wine, canned stuff, garden stuff, cigars, everything in there?
Up here in PA everyone used to have a root cellar before the days of basements. It's how they kept everything fresh and cool.
BC-Axeman
07-27-2010, 08:01 AM
I think you will be better off burying a small cooler or some other pre-made container. No fumes to worry about. Do you have high groundwater? What about a root cellar, like in the old days? A lot more digging, to be sure, but more useful. You could make a locking lid for it.
edit: HA! Scott beat me to it while I was proofreading.
Commander Quan
07-27-2010, 08:12 AM
If you are going to dig a hole, I say go all the way like Oak Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island)
Hoosierguy
07-27-2010, 08:23 AM
Actually, for years I have considered installing a tornado (bomb) shelter. This would be a buried septic tank with stairs and nice hatch. Yes, this or a root celar would do the trick but would cost me some big bucks.
I've been reading the "How to Freeze" thread and am now feeling more justified with my buried cigs idea.
nofeardiver
07-27-2010, 08:47 AM
just pick up a cheap vino or equivalent wine cooler on ebay or craig's list... i agree if you are new you will out grow fast...
Hoosierguy
07-27-2010, 09:15 AM
Gentlemen,
I'm pulling the trigger on the plan.
I want this thing to be water tight, so glued PVC is what I'm going with.
The local supplier (who I often work with) is making me a tube that will be:
-Four foot long section of 8" inside dia. PVC with a glued cap on bottom (definitely water tight)
-This vessel will have a screw top cap that will extend slightly above the ground surface
The 15 cigar caddy will fit into a this tube. I could stack two 15 (or smaller units) into the tube. Removing the foam will give me space in the caddy to pack in more cigars. I will insert a lifting device so that I can get to them.
I think I can safely say that this system will keep 40+ cigars at good temps in the heat of summer.
I'm picking up the tube tomorrow and will bury it on Thursday. I'll post pictures of it before I start digging.
I'll be sure not to put it's GPS coordinates on any geocaching websites!:D
I
markem
07-27-2010, 09:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIhcbIPLRIw
kaisersozei
07-27-2010, 09:26 AM
Why don't you build a root cellar? Then you can keep your beer, wine, canned stuff, garden stuff, cigars, everything in there?
Up here in PA everyone used to have a root cellar before the days of basements. It's how they kept everything fresh and cool.
Or better yet, one of those survival shelters like in The Road. Also complete with ventilation, bedding, toilet & shower facilities, a few krugerrands and loaded weapons to help withstand the cannibalistic days of the post-apocalypse.
Hoosierguy
07-27-2010, 09:29 AM
Perhaps I should demo my entire house and build a new one with a basement. Surely, this would be much easier than digging a hole and inserting an 8" dia. pipe.
massphatness
07-27-2010, 09:30 AM
Perhaps I should demo my entire house and build a new one with a basement. Surely, this would be much easier than digging a hole and inserting an 8" dia. pipe.
Now that’s just silly.
mahtofire
07-27-2010, 10:09 AM
I say do it. But here's what you have to do....Turn it into a science project for all the CA BOTL's to watch....Take pics of the project and the progress, and then check back with it periodically to see how they are doing, take more pics with more results, then finally smoke them and post your results.
The Great Cigar Burial.....
TheTraveler
07-27-2010, 11:13 AM
Perhaps I should demo my entire house and build a new one with a basement. Surely, this would be much easier than digging a hole and inserting an 8" dia. pipe.
Oh, come now, don't be ridiculous! You shouldn't demo the entire house, you should embark on a long and very expensive renovation project wherein the contractors dig out and build the basement under the existing house! Sheesh, only cheaters would go the demo route.
:r j/k of course :D
Have you already purchased the cigar caddies? Are they the perfectly airtight/watertight model? The reason I ask about the airtightness ... condensation due to differences in air temp. Might need to dig the hole, set the apparatus up, insert a thermometer and find out the temp at the depth you'll be storing, get your cigar caddies to that temp, THEN drop them in the tube. But I dunno, I'm no heat/air man nor am I an engineer.
rizzle
07-27-2010, 11:15 AM
Once upon a time I thought I had heard it all.
Let er rip, bro! :tu
MajorCaptSilly
07-27-2010, 11:30 AM
Now that’s just silly.
Did somebody call me?
MCS
SaltyMcGee
07-27-2010, 11:32 AM
Now that’s just silly.
:r
Or better yet, one of those survival shelters like in The Road. Also complete with ventilation, bedding, toilet & shower facilities, a few krugerrands and loaded weapons to help withstand the cannibalistic days of the post-apocalypse.
Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
neoflex
07-27-2010, 12:10 PM
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/drink/trink31.gif
Ashcan Bill
07-27-2010, 01:03 PM
Ya know, I hate to be the one to inform you of this but gophers have been known to chew through PVC. There have also been unsubstantiated reports of subterranean weasels being attracted to, and attacking PVC. You may want to considered flooding the pipe with a mildly lethal gas to protect against invading varmints.
:=:
icehog3
07-27-2010, 01:16 PM
Ya know, I hate to be the one to inform you of this but gophers have been known to chew through PVC. There have also been unsubstantiated reports of subterranean weasels being attracted to, and attacking PVC. You may want to considered flooding the pipe with a mildly lethal gas to protect against invading varmints.
:=:
And to poison your cigars in case any beavers try to smoke them.
Ashcan Bill
07-27-2010, 01:21 PM
And to poison your cigars in case any beavers try to smoke them.
Good point. Forgot about those sneaky beavers. :(
Subvet642
07-27-2010, 01:25 PM
Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=460&pictureid=4460
I thought it deserved a picture.
shilala
07-27-2010, 01:25 PM
Ya know, I hate to be the one to inform you of this but gophers have been known to chew through PVC. There have also been unsubstantiated reports of subterranean weasels being attracted to, and attacking PVC. You may want to considered flooding the pipe with a mildly lethal gas to protect against invading varmints.
My cat brought me a weasel the day before yesterday. He just ripped the head off and left both parts by the back door.
I'm guessing weasels aren't all that tasty, because he also left me three giant piles of barf.
It makes me believe you have to remove the venom sacs before you eat a weasel.
The next day he brought me a mouse. He's got no stick-to-it-iveness.
Which brings me to the moral of this story...
Never send a weasel to do a ferret's job.
Please fasten your seatbelts, place your seats in the full upright position and return to your regularly scheduled programming.
e-man67
07-27-2010, 01:28 PM
Don't listen to these guys..do it and take pictures! :banger
P.S. make sure you make a treasure map or you will never find them..and you have to wear an eye patch too while hunting for them..and say ARRRRR a lot.
BC-Axeman
07-27-2010, 02:20 PM
Encode the treasure map and hold a contest for the first one to figure it out.
Hoosierguy
07-27-2010, 02:30 PM
Ya know, I hate to be the one to inform you of this but gophers have been known to chew through PVC. There have also been unsubstantiated reports of subterranean weasels being attracted to, and attacking PVC. You may want to considered flooding the pipe with a mildly lethal gas to protect against invading varmints.
:=:
Fortunately, beavers, weasels and gophers all have trouble using lighters.
waffle
07-27-2010, 02:45 PM
Don't listen to these guys..do it and take pictures! :banger
P.S. make sure you make a treasure map or you will never find them..and you have to wear an eye patch too while hunting for them..and say ARRRRR a lot.
When are we doing this in your backyard??? I'll bring the backhoe!
SaltyMcGee
07-27-2010, 03:17 PM
Ya know, I hate to be the one to inform you of this but gophers have been known to chew through PVC. There have also been unsubstantiated reports of subterranean weasels being attracted to, and attacking PVC. You may want to considered flooding the pipe with a mildly lethal gas to protect against invading varmints.
Hire this Man:
http://truthpraiseandhelp.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/carl-the-greenskeeper-caddyshack2.jpg?w=300&h=211
"License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - Varmint Cong. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote."
dwoodward
07-27-2010, 03:18 PM
Am I the only person who thinks 4' is too long? Lets be serious here, how are you going to get the boxes out of a small diameter 4' deep pit?
bobarian
07-27-2010, 03:35 PM
Am I the only person who thinks 4' is too long? Lets be serious here, how are you going to get the boxes out of a small diameter 4' deep pit?
You put the cat in first! :banger;s
MajorCaptSilly
07-27-2010, 04:00 PM
How many acres do you think DaKlugs would need to get his stash underground? Do you think Tara would cover it?
MCS
kaisersozei
07-27-2010, 04:01 PM
Am I the only person who thinks 4' is too long? Lets be serious here, how are you going to get the boxes out of a small diameter 4' deep pit?
A system of pulleys--duh...! ;)
WOOO HOOO, PROJECT #2!
BC-Axeman
07-27-2010, 04:13 PM
Hydraulics.
For 8" dia. you just need an auger.
With a backhoe you would have the whole root cellar in just as much time.
kaisersozei
07-28-2010, 07:30 AM
Or better yet, one of those survival shelters like in The Road. Also complete with ventilation, bedding, toilet & shower facilities, a few krugerrands and loaded weapons to help withstand the cannibalistic days of the post-apocalypse.
I'm prescient--from today's USA Today:
Doomsday shelters making a comeback (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-07-28-doomsday28_ST_N.htm)
:tf
Emjaysmash
07-28-2010, 08:59 AM
Haha, this is so epic!
BC-Axeman
07-28-2010, 10:00 AM
Gophers and weasels and squirrels, oh my!
weak_link
07-28-2010, 10:08 AM
OK, I'm hooked. Plz post photos of your work.
http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/f_celeb.gif
kaisersozei
07-28-2010, 11:01 AM
Looks like excessive end zone celebration to me. Good thing they didn't pull out a Sharpie.
brigey57
07-28-2010, 12:34 PM
Ditto, keeps 'em cool and fresh!
I'm gonna say that's kinda crazy. For someone whose name is MajorCaptSilly to say it's crazy, it's pretty crazy. I say buy a cooler and put it in the coolest part of your house. It will insulate the contents from much of the heat on the outside and will also help regulate humidity. Remember, it only gets dangerous if the temp of your humidor gets above 80 degrees. I would also recommend freezing your cigars to kill off any beetles.
MCS
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 10:39 AM
Gentlemen,
PROJECT UPDATE:
I picked up the 8" dia. PVC pipe yesterday. It has a cap glued on one end and a slip on cap for the top. I will later fix a lock through the top lid.
The hole is dug and the pipe is now in place. I will post photos soon. I have 60 cigars coming today via UPS. I also received my RH beads today from hcmcigarbeads.com.
Question: Should I adjust my beads from 65 to 70 percent humidity?
I know I need to let them set in my caddys for a couple of weeks first, but should I adjust them if up to 70* or leave them where they are (assuming they are between 65 and 70).
I have two 15 and one 10 cigar caddys that I will "put in the hole" and connect to a hook at the top of the pipe with heavy strings. I'll number the caddys and keep an inventory of what's in which box.
BC-Axeman
07-29-2010, 11:00 AM
Pics!
dwoodward
07-29-2010, 12:09 PM
This needs pics of course... but really dude, all you needed was a cooler. Waste of time in my opinion. I also suspect that within a month you will buy a cooler out of sheer frustration with digging up your cigars every time you want a smoke.
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 12:37 PM
Here is the 8" PVC tube. It's 54" tall!
http://www.bicyclecart.com/Tube_8_inch_dia_SDR_35.jpg
Hook for rope:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/hook.jpg
Lid:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/lid.jpg
Looking down tube:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/down_tube.jpg
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 12:38 PM
Hole with tube in it:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/hole_dug%20tube_inserted.jpg
http://www.bicyclecart.com/another.jpg
Cigar Caddy (15) on a "leash":
http://www.bicyclecart.com/cigar_caddy_15_on_rope.jpg
Caddy in tube:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/caddy_in_tube.jpg
Final storage photo:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/painted%20lid.jpg
colinb913
07-29-2010, 12:40 PM
Wheres the hole?! Put a grave marker over it, see what your neighbors say.
Edit: You just posted the pics.
mariogolbee
07-29-2010, 12:42 PM
Holy sh!t! You did it! Bravo! That's kinda cool. Unconventional, but cool. Thanks for the pics. This rocks! :banger
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 12:43 PM
This needs pics of course... but really dude, all you needed was a cooler. Waste of time in my opinion. I also suspect that within a month you will buy a cooler out of sheer frustration with digging up your cigars every time you want a smoke.
I would rather this than trying to keep a cooler cool by having to continually add ice and worry about the temperature. This tube will keep things nice and cool. I can easily access cigars and will keep them in the house once ambient temps go down.
I'll put a lock on it later today.
MajorCaptSilly
07-29-2010, 12:43 PM
Did the leaves from your Oak tree fall early this year? :=:
MCS
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 12:47 PM
Holy sh!t! You did it! Bravo! That's kinda cool. Unconventional, but cool. Thanks for the pics. This rocks! :banger
Thank you, thank you. I'm very happy with the results. It was a deep hole. The actual digging took me about an hour. I went through some pretty heavy soil and some roots needed to be cut but everything went pretty smooth.
I now have the tiniest basement in North America!
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 12:49 PM
Did the leaves from your Oak tree fall early this year? :=:
MCS
I put it in a part of our yard that is left "natural" (I don't rake there).
I'll probably paint the cap to look leafy.
Skywalker
07-29-2010, 12:55 PM
Congrats!!!
Don't listen to us Naysayers!!! Pretty soon we'll all be digging holes!!!;)
waffle
07-29-2010, 12:57 PM
Impressive, but what you really need to do is buy a pole with a hook and just let them stack..... ORRRRRR REALLLY strong Magnets! :D!! JK awesome unconventional storage!
Well, I think to make this complete, you should PM an admin and have them change your name from "Hoosierguy" to "Squirreldude".
waffle
07-29-2010, 12:59 PM
Now, for your next project, put a 36" pipe down there with a storage rack and some pulleys... you'll be able to store EVERYTHING... run power to it so its run by a hydraulic winch!!! oooohhhh that'd be awesome!
kelmac07
07-29-2010, 01:02 PM
Very cool!!! :tu
ucla695
07-29-2010, 01:03 PM
Wow, what a unique solution to a common problem. What's the temp like in the ground?
Lear31MX
07-29-2010, 01:09 PM
Good job Hoosierguy
But I'm reminded of that movie Stand by me, where the fat kid digs up the whloe yard looking for a jar of change. and never finds it
dwoodward
07-29-2010, 01:09 PM
I am still not convinced. Looks good, looks like it could work. But what is the temperature in the bottom of that hole? You don't have a hygrometer or thermometer in there so how can you be sure your cigars are not still at 80 degrees?
BC-Axeman
07-29-2010, 01:11 PM
Just put a toxic poison sticker on it and it will get left alone.
http://fracstar.com/pics/biohaz.gif
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 01:16 PM
The heat is slowly getting pulled out of the tube. I've had a thermometer in the bottom for the past 1.5 hours. Last time I checked it was 68*. I'll run and check it now....
It is now 66* in the bottom and 80 at the surface. I expect it will eventually get to cellar temps of about 57* at the floor of the tube.
dwoodward
07-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Well in that case, congrats!
Just be sure you mark your hole somewhere, I can see the winter dumping 2 feet of snow on that and making you wonder where your cigars are.
TheTraveler
07-29-2010, 01:21 PM
Edit: post removed. I just read your post above about the temp in the tube.
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 01:28 PM
Well in that case, congrats!
Just be sure you mark your hole somewhere, I can see the winter dumping 2 feet of snow on that and making you wonder where your cigars are.
Again, the cigars will be kept in air tight cigar caddys with rh beads. The tube is just for the temps. When the weather cools, I'll move them inside.
Winter in the bottom of that pipe will be pretty darn cold!
The tube is about 5' from my house. There is no way that I can loose track of it.
I've been carefully considering how to install a lock without compromising water tightness. i think I have a good solution and will post picture later today or tomorrow.
I'm still waiting for the UPS man to deliver my cigs!
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 02:28 PM
I think a name for this tube storage is needed.
How about "The Cigar Sewer"?
Gophernut
07-29-2010, 02:31 PM
I think a name for this tube storage is needed.
How about "The Cigar Sewer"?
Best get it patented! I think it's awesome!:banger
icehog3
07-29-2010, 02:35 PM
Kinda cool.... :)
whodeeni
07-29-2010, 02:39 PM
Well, I think to make this complete, you should PM an admin and have them change your name from "Hoosierguy" to "Squirreldude".
:r:r:r:r
Congrats Bro! You were determined and you did it!:tu
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 02:41 PM
"Me smokes is hot Daddy. Buggies hatch'in and eat'in em!"
"Boy, you needs a Cigar Sewer!"
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 02:43 PM
Just put a toxic poison sticker on it and it will get left alone.
http://fracstar.com/pics/biohaz.gif
Kids in my neighborhood LOVE bio-hazards!
kaisersozei
07-29-2010, 02:46 PM
Awesome! :tu
kaisersozei
07-29-2010, 02:47 PM
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wtf? 29 guests, seriously?
Ahbroody
07-29-2010, 02:48 PM
Dude you get reps for this one.
benedic08
07-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Wow! You actually did it.... Looks good.... Nice work :D
mariogolbee
07-29-2010, 03:03 PM
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 34 (5 members and 29 guests)
wtf? 29 guests, seriously?
:r:banger
Dude you get reps for this one.
:tpd:
croatan
07-29-2010, 03:11 PM
:r
Definitely the most unique cigar storage method I've ever seen. :tu
shilala
07-29-2010, 03:22 PM
Well done, brother. :tu
longknocker
07-29-2010, 04:13 PM
I Knew You Could Do It, Brother!:banger:tu
Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 04:18 PM
Well done, brother. :tu
I'm happy to announce, there are now 52 happy cigars sleeping in the Cigar Sewer!
I made a pouch inside the tube to hold a torch lighter and cutter.
Now, if my wife lock me outside in my underwear, I can at least have a smoke!
BC-Axeman
07-29-2010, 04:24 PM
I'm happy to announce, there are now 52 happy cigars sleeping in the Cigar Sewer!
Taking a dirt nap?
Ashcan Bill
07-29-2010, 04:34 PM
Excellent job! :tu
shooter21489
07-29-2010, 06:18 PM
I say go for it! I also live on a slab in Indiana, but fortunately I have central air. If, however, I did not have a/c, I would probably take this idea as genius and join!
*edit*
upon further reading, I now know that you went through. I'm proud to tears.
Smokin Gator
07-29-2010, 06:36 PM
I gotta admit... when you started this thread I thought you were nuts. I apologize... your solution is pretty darn cool!!!
massphatness
07-29-2010, 06:45 PM
Props for following through. As this hobby grabs hold of you though, don't be surprised to find yourself wanting to dig more (and bigger) holes.
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Hoosierguy
07-29-2010, 07:19 PM
Props for following through. As this hobby grabs hold of you though, don't be surprised to find yourself wanting to dig more (and bigger) holes.
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I could fit 150 in the bottom 1/3 of the pipe if I had the right shaped and size containers for the cigars.
The caddys work fine but don't make good use of the 8" dia. pipe.
I've seen some larger round tupperwear type containers that could hold mucho smokes.
Emjaysmash
07-29-2010, 07:25 PM
:np
elderboy02
07-29-2010, 07:29 PM
I'm happy to announce, there are now 52 happy cigars sleeping in the Cigar Sewer!
I made a pouch inside the tube to hold a torch lighter and cutter.
Now, if my wife lock me outside in my underwear, I can at least have a smoke!
:r That is awesome! :tu
waffle
07-29-2010, 07:33 PM
Sticktuitiveness at its most awesome!
massphatness
07-29-2010, 07:44 PM
I could fit 150 in the bottom 1/3 of the pipe if I had the right shaped and size containers for the cigars.
The caddys work fine but don't make good use of the 8" dia. pipe.
I've seen some larger round tupperwear type containers that could hold mucho smokes.
Understood.
For a point of reference though, I started out 4+ years ago with a small 100 ct humi. I now own three cabinets and newly 4,000 cigars. And I am far from unique.
Just sayin'
This has been a fun thread to watch and I wish you much success with your McGuyver-esque solution. But it won't surprise should you find yourself craving a bigger pipe in relatively short order.
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Patrick B
07-30-2010, 01:49 AM
Wow.
dwoodward
07-30-2010, 01:58 AM
This has been a fun thread to watch and I wish you much success with your McGuyver-esque solution. But it won't surprise should you find yourself craving a bigger pipe in relatively short order.
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:tpd:
Couldn't have said it better myself. I am (no joke) already looking at my 300ct humidor and thinking... "Damn, this thing is tiny!" ... And when I was originally going to order, I only thought I would ever need a 100ct.
It's only been a few weeks and I am already wanting to upgrade. There is one fortunate thing that is holding me back tho. Money... I can not afford anything larger, I can barely afford the one I have now haha.
But yeah, I still think you will end up getting a cooler to place in your house, you would be surprised the cold dark corners you can find in your house that you didn't even think about.
Hoosierguy
07-30-2010, 05:45 AM
:np
Look at page 5 of this thread
Hoosierguy
07-30-2010, 06:02 AM
I should mention that the lid was originally a gasketed lid, meant to fit very tightly on the pipe. The gasket was removed so that the lid could easily slide on and off the 8" dia. pipe.
longknocker
07-30-2010, 06:21 AM
I should mention that the lid was originally a gasketed lid, meant to fit very tightly on the pipe. The gasket was removed so that the lid could easily slide on and off the 8" dia. pipe.
:tu Pics, Please!:D
jonumberone
07-30-2010, 06:24 AM
he already did!
Here is the 8" PVC tube. It's 54" tall!
http://www.bicyclecart.com/Tube_8_inch_dia_SDR_35.jpg
Hook for rope:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/hook.jpg
Lid:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/lid.jpg
Looking down tube:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/down_tube.jpg
jonumberone
07-30-2010, 06:24 AM
second set!
Hole with tube in it:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/hole_dug%20tube_inserted.jpg
http://www.bicyclecart.com/another.jpg
Cigar Caddy (15) on a "leash":
http://www.bicyclecart.com/cigar_caddy_15_on_rope.jpg
Caddy in tube:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/caddy_in_tube.jpg
Final storage photo:
http://www.bicyclecart.com/painted%20lid.jpg
longknocker
07-30-2010, 06:30 AM
:tu:banger Thanks For The Pics, Brother!:D
John51277
07-30-2010, 08:55 AM
Thats just Clazy!!! I am dumbfounded! WOW!!!!!!
rizzle
07-30-2010, 09:12 AM
Well, I'll be damned. Pure unadulterated awesome.
:r
Hoosierguy
07-30-2010, 03:57 PM
Here is the newly painted (camo) lid and lock. I ended up using running loops of cable through both the tube and the lid. The lock won't keep someone out if they are determined to get in but will be a deterrent for neighborhood kids, raccoons, etc.
http://www.bicyclecart.com/camo_lid_with_lock.jpg
longknocker
07-30-2010, 04:00 PM
I'm "Impressed"!:tu
elderboy02
07-30-2010, 06:47 PM
I love this thread! Everyone rate this thread 5 stars :tu
scoop
08-01-2010, 06:49 AM
Wow....amazing
Prozac_Puros
08-01-2010, 09:52 AM
Congrtas on the first Cigar Sewer.
Props for following through. As this hobby grabs hold of you though, don't be surprised to find yourself wanting to dig more (and bigger) holes.
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Think the wife would notice a bigger hole in the yard??
6804
Hoosierguy
08-02-2010, 09:04 AM
I have a few tips or suggestions if anyone is intersted installing their own Cigar Sewer:
1 . A 6" dia. pipe is all that would be needed to insert a 15 Cigar Caddy but the 8" dia. pipe, with it's extra volume is nice but the cost difference between 6" and 8" is significant.
2. I would not recommend going any deeper than 5.0' since most post hole digger handles are not longer than 5.0'
3. I recommend the lid I used (gasketted - with the gasket removed). It slides nicely over the pipe. It can easily be removed without tools.
4. Compact the soil around the pipe as you backfill with the end of your shovel. This will prevent settling.
5. The 8" dia. sewer pipe is an SDR 35 pipe. This is plenty heavy stuff!
6. Be sure you prime and glue the end cap on with recommend PVC glue. This will ensure water tightness at the bottom of the pipe.
7. Velcro works nicely inside the tube to hold a lighter.
8. If I were to do it again, I'd use a remote thermometer and tape the end to the floor of the pipe, the wire to the side and attach the actual readout portion to the inside of the lid. (I may still do this). This way, you could easily know the temp in the bottom of the tube.
8. The only drawback to "the Sewer" is that you won't want to pull the lid to access you cigars in the rain. This might get water down your nifty new pipe. That said, I only smoke outside and don't need access to my cigars if it's raining. This might be a problem for someone that smokes inside.
bscottskangum
08-02-2010, 04:03 PM
This is......something.....I don't know how to describe what I'm feeling....but it's something
jonumberone
08-02-2010, 04:23 PM
.
http://www.bicyclecart.com/camo_lid_with_lock.jpg
You have to camo the lock as well :2
You're such a copy cat! They did this exact same thing in last months Cigar Aficionado!:r
Seriously, that right there gets you a free lifetime membership to the asylum:tu
JohnE1000
08-05-2010, 12:22 PM
What have you been smoking dude?
Silound
08-09-2010, 08:09 PM
Possibly the most unique and well executed solution to storage of cigars I've ever seen.
Bravo!
clintgeek
09-25-2010, 01:39 AM
Vinotemp!!!!!
rizzle
01-05-2011, 12:34 PM
Update please. I'm wondering if you've built an underground walk-in by now?
whodeeni
01-05-2011, 12:49 PM
Update please. I'm wondering if you've built an underground walk-in by now?
:r You're wrong for that Rich!
bscottskangum
01-05-2011, 01:03 PM
Update please. I'm wondering if you've built an underground walk-in by now?
His last activity was 8/13/2010 doubt that we will get an update.
Now that you have revived the thread Im curious to know if the storage actually worked out for him.
pektel
01-05-2011, 01:26 PM
Maybe he made a couple more to store some kilos...
bobarian
01-05-2011, 01:27 PM
Total waste of time for the storage of 30 cigars. :sl
Springsman
01-05-2011, 01:28 PM
Total waste of time for the storage of 30 cigars. :sl
nahhh, he's just looking ahead! Hell, by mid year he may have to dig another! ;)
688sonarmen
01-05-2011, 01:55 PM
Some of you guys would need a backhoe and a permit:D
mariogolbee
01-05-2011, 02:11 PM
Total waste of time for the storage of 30 cigars. :sl
To each his own, right, Bob? Everyone's different. "Smoke what you like." "One man's junk is another man's treasure." What might be a waste of time to some, may have been just another post hole, some PVC, spray paint, creativity, and good workout to another.
Skywalker
01-05-2011, 02:18 PM
To each his own, right, Bob? Everyone's different. "Smoke what you like." "One man's junk is another man's treasure." What might be a waste of time to some, may have been just another post hole, some PVC, spray paint, creativity, and good workout to another.
Bob's just grumpy!!!
He buries cigars in his Vino and forgets he has them!!!:D
CigarNut
01-05-2011, 02:28 PM
The OP has not logged on to CA since August...
rizzle
01-05-2011, 02:41 PM
:r You're wrong for that Rich!
His last activity was 8/13/2010 doubt that we will get an update.
Now that you have revived the thread Im curious to know if the storage actually worked out for him.
Enquiring minds want to know!
:r:r
justonemorestick
01-08-2011, 11:28 AM
I may have to try this to hide new purchases from the wife.
CoreyD
01-08-2011, 12:06 PM
why not just build an underground concrete humidor cigar room, since your digging anyways, then in winter you can bring a heater an herf.
mariogolbee
01-08-2011, 12:16 PM
why not just build an underground concrete humidor cigar room, since your digging anyways, then in winter you can bring a heater an herf.
An exponential difference in funds, time, and stress, perhaps?
mmblz
02-29-2012, 12:39 PM
how did I miss this thread???
:r:r:r
still though, he obviously needs to get a foam roller for insulation:
http://www.amazon.com/Cando-Foam-Roller-Jumbo-White/dp/B001VAMBJ6
Hoosierguy
02-29-2012, 12:59 PM
Hello everyone! The answer is YES, the cigar cellar worked well last summer. When the cold temps of November came, I lifted all the cigars out and placed them on a shelf in my cool winter home. When spring temps reach 60-70, I'll move them back outside (underground).
Even in the hottest weather, the temps in the bottom of the tube stayed around 56 and the very top of the tube (just under the lid) didn't get above 67 degrees.
When I get low on cigars, I might start storing some wine down there!
ApexAZ
02-29-2012, 01:00 PM
Hello everyone! The answer is YES, the cigar cellar worked well last summer. When the cold temps of November came, I lifted all the cigars out and placed them on a shelf in my cool winter home. When spring temps reach 60-70, I'll move them back outside (underground).
Even in the hottest weather, the temps in the bottom of the tube stayed around 56 and the very top of the tube (just under the lid) didn't get above 67 degrees.
When I get low on cigars, I might start storing some wine down there!
We aren't going to see you on the news being rescued because you fell in, are we?
Hoosierguy
02-29-2012, 01:02 PM
That's why I keep a lid on it. I don't want one of those Baby Jessica things happening in my backyard!
Ahbroody
02-29-2012, 03:06 PM
Awesome man.
Crownedone
02-29-2012, 07:56 PM
This was the greatest thread that I ever read. Cigar guys are the best...
hotreds
02-29-2012, 08:01 PM
Klugs has told us of the great vintage Cubans he dug up from the Civil War prison on Johnson's Island where the Shack Herf occurs. They were in pristine conditon.
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