Why do most people seem to have a negative opinion of Macanudos?

[Pauly Walnuts]

The reason I ask is that my uncle smokes Macanudos pretty exclusively, he doesnt know very much about cigars, but he likes to think he does. He keeps his Macanudo (he buys them 1 at a time) in the crisper drawer of the refrigerator with a glass of water. I personally dont know if this method does anything at all but hes the most stubborn person youll ever meet and theres no tellin' him different. Next time I see him, I want to give him some legitimate reasons why Macanudos arent the only way to go. Not trying to change his tastes, the man likes what he likes, I just want to show him I know a little about cigars too. Thanks in advance guys.
Pauly

[AlohaStyle]

I hear ya... but there's nothing anyone can say to make a guy change his preferences. If he likes Macanudos and doesn't want to try anything else, so be it. At least he's happy smoking a cigar and that's all that should matter, right? If you really want to get him to smoke other cigars, maybe gift him one and ask to smoke together. Give him a cigar you really like and tell him why you like it etc...

If you want to try and show him you know something about cigars, educate him on proper ways of storing cigars. Storage is more black and white and not mainly about preference, so start there if you want to show him anything. Maybe get him a 20-count humidor and work together to get the proper tools for storing cigars in the humidor...

Anyway... just my opinion. :)

[icehog3]

I agree with Ryan that if he likes Macanudos, more power to him...at least he is a Lover of the Leaf. And again agreeing with Ryan, you gotta help him out with the refrigerador....I did that 20+ years ago when I knew next to nothing about cigars, and ruined more than I care to remember.

[bobarian]

Macanudo's are the #1 selling brand of cigars in the US for a reason. They are the Budweiser of cigars, nothing outstanding but made to be the least offensive to the most amount of people. As the others have said, let him smoke what he likes. Mac's are a consistent mild smoke, nothing wrong with them at all. :2

[Pauly Walnuts]

All good stuff there.. I also wanted to make a point to say that he tries to push Macs on me, Im just lookin for a way to push back lol ill bring him a different mild cigar that I like to see what he thinks.

[icehog3]

All good stuff there.. I also wanted to make a point to say that he tries to push Macs on me, Im just lookin for a way to push back lol ill bring him a different mild cigar that I like to see what he thinks.

Sounds like a good plan, let us know how it goes! :tu

[Stinky]

Fair's fair! You should smoke one of his Macanudos if you expect him to smoke one of your [similarly] mild cigars. Be careful moving him off his comfort-zone taste & strength.

FWIW: I smoke 2 to 3 cigars every day and still like a good mild cigar. Macanudo is a very well blended and tasty mild cigar. It's also an excellent cigar for guys who only smoke an occasional cigar.

As far as showing him the way to proper storage & humidity . . . I suggest you find a credible article on the subject, print (or photo copy) for him and discuss it over cigars. Most of us understand proper Cigar storage includes temperature & humidity. BTW: How long does he store his (single) Macanudo in the refrigerator? If he is only buying one or two at a time, a baggie or Tupperware will work just fine.

I hope you'll post again after sharing cigars and information with your Uncle.

[elderboy02]

Give him an Oliva Connecticut Reserve. It is still mild, but has tons of flavor. Much better than a Macanudo :tu

[md4958]

Noting wrong with Macs. I daresay that many guys here started smoking Macanudos. His storage isnt "ideal" but if thats how he like his cigars more power to him.

If hes pushing the Macs on you, try one... they arent bad, just light. But, make sure to repay his kindness with your favorite smoke too, like you mentioned above.

[Pistol]

I agree with all of the above. He likes Macanudos, great! However, it'd be cool if you could broaden his horizons with a stick or two. CI regularly has deals where they throw in a 20 count humidor, why not get something like that for him so that he has a new humidor? You could even fill it with some of your favorite smokes.

[captain53]

Nothing at all wrong with Macanudos, they are a quality cigar. Just for some reason BOTL's seem to declare war on certain cigars because many for whatever reason don't prefer them other examples would be Ghurka and Graycliff. Nothing wrong with any of them and they sell in huge quantities worldwide. Macanudos tend to trend on the very mild side so a lot of long time smokers don't much care for them.

All you need to know about cigars is what kind tastes good to you.

If it is what the man enjoys then get him some more of them and since he is your Uncle and there will come a day that you would give anything to sit down and enjoy a cigar with him then accept his Macanudos when you are with him and appreciate the time spent. I say this from experience.

[shilala]

All really good advice.
I think the best way to get him to smoke one of your cigars would be to say "Hey, how bout you score me one of those Macanudos and I'll bring you something I really like, and we'll have a smoke. That way if you don't like mine, we can swap."
I know that's the best way to get me to try stuff I know I won't like. :tu
If he enjoys your smoke, great. If not, let him smoke what he likes. :tu

[Ashcan Bill]

I don't think most people do have a negative opinion of Macs. I think that the negative perception is limited more to a nucleus of hard core cigar smokers that prefer something stronger. Most forum members fall into that hard core group, and those are the opinions you tend to see posted.

I gave one to a buddy a while back who isn't a smoker, and he enjoyed the hell out of it. I gave him something I figured he'd like, rather than blow him away with a 601 or a Chisel.

Likewise, I have a friend who is a cigar smoker but who doesn't like 'em quite as strong as I do. If I give him a cigar, I try to base it more on what I know he likes rather than giving him what I like. He's been smoking a long time and just has different tastes than I do. He'd like the Mac much more than an Opus.

I even know a guy who loves Grape Swishers. But he's just sick. We won't get into that here. That's just a sad situation.

Macs are mild, but they're also a well constructed, hand rolled, premium cigar. If your Uncle enjoys them, I don't see a problem. He could do a lot worse.

[Tenor CS]

My first "real" cigar was a Macanudo. A Macanudo with a green wrapper, at that. Talk about SUPER mild. Loved it more than cigarettes, though. Now, I enjoy a good variety. Now, when I smoke a Macanudo, it doesn't have much flavor to me.

If he likes Mac's, he might want to try 5 Vegas Gold.

Also, ask Mark (Wolfgang). I've herfed with him on a few occasions, and from what I recall, his dad loves Macanudo Gold's.

[T.G]

The reason I ask is that my uncle smokes Macanudos pretty exclusively, he doesnt know very much about cigars, but he likes to think he does. He keeps his Macanudo (he buys them 1 at a time) in the crisper drawer of the refrigerator with a glass of water. I personally dont know if this method does anything at all but hes the most stubborn person youll ever meet and theres no tellin' him different. Next time I see him, I want to give him some legitimate reasons why Macanudos arent the only way to go. Not trying to change his tastes, the man likes what he likes, I just want to show him I know a little about cigars too. Thanks in advance guys.
Pauly

So this is really about you and not him. You want to impress him with your knowledge.

Meh.

Might not end well.

Ignorance is bliss, and he sure sounds happy. Why ruin that?

If it bugs you that much, don't smoke with him.

[maninblack]

Smoke what you love, love what you smoke. I believe a wise man around here said that.

[Emjaysmash]

This thread makes me wanna smoke a Macanudo... lol I'm surprised I haven't had one yet!


As for the OP: :tpd: with all the suggestions above. This hobby is about sharing with one another the love of the leaf, and it doesn't matter how or what we smoke.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Give him an Oliva Connecticut Reserve. It is still mild, but has tons of flavor. Much better than a Macanudo :tu

:tpd: Step above the Mac.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Let's face it. Your Uncle is missing out on really great cigars because he is too stubborn to try new cigars. Yeah its great that he has his one cigar he loves, but he is missing out on so much more:2

[sikk50]

My first non Kahlua cigar was a Macanudo....good times. Still keep a tin of mini macs with me at work

[Jack1000]

Mac maduro's got me started down the slope. Not a bad cigar at all, especially for someone who was just starting out. I think if I had smoked a JDN or an RYJ cazadore I would have thrown up and moved onto another hobby. Try one-- you'll see they are not bad. The budweiser analogy is great. You're not going to throw out your single malt, but a bud on a hot day is never a bad thing.

[GodOfFire]

I have yet to have a Mac also. Can't believe this?

I have also steered clear due to what I have read on forums. However, now I think one would be worth a try. Mild cigars I do enjoy are RP Edge Lite and Ashton Cabinet.

Thanks for the thread

[shilala]

One nother thing, might as well squeeze it in here...
The Mac 1942 or whatever the new numbered blend is they came out with, for a gas station cigar, it ain't half bad. Honest.

[NCRadioMan]

I agree that the Mac's are not a bad cigar and I used to smoke them but now, it's just that, I can't taste them anymore they are so mild. But after I found the Casa Torano, that became my mild cigar choice and I can still taste it.

[bobarian]

Let's face it. Your Uncle is missing out on really great cigars because he is too stubborn to try new cigars. Yeah its great that he has his one cigar he loves, but he is missing out on so much more:2

I completely disagree, he is missing out on nothing. He enjoys an occasional cigar and smokes Mac's. I dont see what is missing. Its like saying a devout trout fisherman is missing out because he doesnt fish for bass. He is doing something that gives him great pleasure and that's what its all about. We are but a very small percentage of cigar smoking public, the enthusiast. A far greater number of cigar lovers are single brand smokers. :2

[T.G]

One nother thing, might as well squeeze it in here...
The Mac 1942 or whatever the new numbered blend is they came out with, for a gas station cigar, it ain't half bad. Honest.

Scott, are you talking about the Macanudo 1968?

Yeah, those are good. Med-full body, medium strength, nothing like the mild Macanudos at all, just the slightest hint of that signature "Macanudo flavor" to tell you it's a Macanudo. Stupidly overpriced though.

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/Graphics/Features/2008IPCPR/macanudo1968-350.jpg

[Emjaysmash]

Scott, are you talking about the Macanudo 1968?

Yeah, those are good. Med-full body, medium strength, nothing like the mild Macanudos at all, just the slightest hint of that signature "Macanudo flavor" to tell you it's a Macanudo. Stupidly overpriced though.

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/Graphics/Features/2008IPCPR/macanudo1968-350.jpg

The pricing was/is the only thing keeping me from buying Macanudos.

[Blueface]

Different strokes for different folks.

[Pauly Walnuts]

So this is really about you and not him. You want to impress him with your knowledge.

Meh.

Might not end well.

Ignorance is bliss, and he sure sounds happy. Why ruin that?

If it bugs you that much, don't smoke with him.

No, lol not at all about that. I wanted to know a few different things. First, why I have read alot of things in forums about Macanudos being no good. This was answered a couple of times, because hardcore cigar smokers usually like a stronger flavor and the Macanudo is too mild. The second question I had was how I can get him to try a few different sticks, because I know he will like some of the others. Got the answer to that as well. Lastly, I wanted to see if refrigerator storage was by any means proper to keep cigars.

[captain53]

For sure the refigerator is worth trying to talk him out of.:2

[T.G]

No, lol not at all about that. I wanted to know a few different things. First, why I have read alot of things in forums about Macanudos being no good. This was answered a couple of times, because hardcore cigar smokers usually like a stronger flavor and the Macanudo is too mild. The second question I had was how I can get him to try a few different sticks, because I know he will like some of the others. Got the answer to that as well. Lastly, I wanted to see if refrigerator storage was by any means proper to keep cigars.


If you say so...


The reason I ask is that my uncle smokes Macanudos pretty exclusively, he doesnt know very much about cigars, but he likes to think he does. He keeps his Macanudo (he buys them 1 at a time) in the crisper drawer of the refrigerator with a glass of water. I personally dont know if this method does anything at all but hes the most stubborn person youll ever meet and theres no tellin' him different. Next time I see him, I want to give him some legitimate reasons why Macanudos arent the only way to go. Not trying to change his tastes, the man likes what he likes, I just want to show him I know a little about cigars too. Thanks in advance guys.
Pauly


You're what? 19?

Based on what you wrote, you're trying to exert some male dominance and gain recognition.

It's natural. Don't worry about it.

Probably not a battle worth fighting though, it'll most likely cost you more in the relationship than it's worth. So what if he likes Macanudos. Let him like them. Why try and change him, he's happy with what he's doing and smoking.

If you feel you must try and prove something to him, I would recommend gifting him a high end or vintage Macanudo (like one of the old Jamaican Macanudos) and not making a big deal out of it. But don't be surprised or disappointed if someone as stubborn as you imply him to be, might simply automatically discount your gift as "Crap" or is so set in his ways and tastes that any deviation from his normal flavor profile is "Crap".

Some things are just best left be.

[DocLogic77]

People like what they like. My dad complains when I hand him a CC. He wants a Macanudo or a Swisher Sweet. Whatcha going to do? :)

[akumushi]

If you say so...





You're what? 19?

Based on what you wrote, you're trying to exert some male dominance and gain recognition.

It's natural. Don't worry about it.

Probably not a battle worth fighting though, it'll most likely cost you more in the relationship than it's worth. So what if he likes Macanudos. Let him like them. Why try and change him, he's happy with what he's doing and smoking.

If you feel you must try and prove something to him, I would recommend gifting him a high end or vintage Macanudo (like one of the old Jamaican Macanudos) and not making a big deal out of it. But don't be surprised or disappointed if someone as stubborn as you imply him to be, might simply automatically discount your gift as "Crap" or is so set in his ways and tastes that any deviation from his normal flavor profile is "Crap".

Some things are just best left be.

I don't know that I agree with that. I think as hobbyists and enthusiasts we get so wrapped up in our passion and desire to share the joy of a great cigar with people that we are sometimes mystifed by those who are not as interested in expanding their horizons, or getting any deeper into the hobby than we are. I myself have been perplexed when someone is simply not interested in branching out into better, finer cigars. My grandfather got me into cigars and while he enjoys the CCs and Premiums NCs that I bring him when I visit, he sticks to his own cheap NC bundles most of the time and has yet to be lured over to the darkside. I see him gradually trying new things, but it's been a long, slow process of gifting him premiums cigars and letting his tast develop over time. That said, there are two kind of people, those that cling to a narrow routine, love the familiar and are threatened by change, and those who thrive on change, seek out new experiences as a way of life and get bored with the same thing everyday. You are not going to pull someone out of a rut if that's were they want to be.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I completely disagree, he is missing out on nothing. He enjoys an occasional cigar and smokes Mac's. I dont see what is missing. Its like saying a devout trout fisherman is missing out because he doesnt fish for bass. He is doing something that gives him great pleasure and that's what its all about. We are but a very small percentage of cigar smoking public, the enthusiast. A far greater number of cigar lovers are single brand smokers. :2

Paul said his uncle doesn't know a lot about cigars. Meaning, he has no idea whats out there besides what he sees in a gas station. If the only cigars I had access or knew about were Macs, then I would be content with them. I think maybe if he knew more about cigars, and whats actually available to him, then he could form a better understanding:2

[T.G]

You might be right Clayton, or it could be a bit of both.

Hell, most of us probably had something to prove when we were 19 too, so I don't blame him if that is the case.

As for the rest, sounds like we're basically on the same page.

[gvarsity]

I remember when I was 16 I had access to Macanudos through work and I hated them because I thought they were stale. We also had the nc Partagas which I liked just fine. Years later when I knew more about cigars I had a Macanudo that was perfectly cared for and it still tasted stale to me. It's just the flavor profile. Couldn't pay me to smoke one now.

As for your uncle you are wasting your time. People like what they like and there is nothing wrong with that. I used to work in a brew pub and people would come in with friends or for the food and order bud or miller all the time because that is all they liked.

IMHO just sharing a smoke with him and you enjoying what you like and him enjoying what he likes and both of you thinking the other is crazy and talking about sports or something else is a great way to spend and evening. When it comes to preference there is no right or wrong. Sometimes more people may share your preference but it still doesn't make it right.

[Pauly Walnuts]

If you say so...





You're what? 19?

Based on what you wrote, you're trying to exert some male dominance and gain recognition.

It's natural. Don't worry about it.

Probably not a battle worth fighting though, it'll most likely cost you more in the relationship than it's worth. So what if he likes Macanudos. Let him like them. Why try and change him, he's happy with what he's doing and smoking.

If you feel you must try and prove something to him, I would recommend gifting him a high end or vintage Macanudo (like one of the old Jamaican Macanudos) and not making a big deal out of it. But don't be surprised or disappointed if someone as stubborn as you imply him to be, might simply automatically discount your gift as "Crap" or is so set in his ways and tastes that any deviation from his normal flavor profile is "Crap".

Some things are just best left be.


Yessir freshly turned 19. Not feeling much male dominance either though, what you bolded is all true, I would like to show him I know a little bit about cigars despite my young age. Not by any means trying to tell him Macanudos are bad or that he should change his tastes, but find him a few more cigars that he would like because he picked up a Macanudo and closed himself off to other cigars. I dont see anything wrong with that, and most certainly not trying to dominate him or overpower him in any way. We have a very healthy relationship and would never let it be damaged over a cigar. Actually we've never even been in a heated arguement over one. Im not planning on kicking down his door and demand that he put down the Macanudo and come out with his hands up or anything along those lines.

[nozero]

I liked the Hyde Parks that I've tried. Hated the Robust. But it's been a long while since I've had either and my tastes have changed significantly.

If he likes them, more power to him!

[T.G]

Yessir freshly turned 19. Not feeling much male dominance either though, what you bolded is all true, I would like to show him I know a little bit about cigars despite my young age. Not by any means trying to tell him Macanudos are bad or that he should change his tastes, but find him a few more cigars that he would like because he picked up a Macanudo and closed himself off to other cigars. I dont see anything wrong with that, and most certainly not trying to dominate him or overpower him in any way. We have a very healthy relationship and would never let it be damaged over a cigar. Actually we've never even been in a heated arguement over one. Im not planning on kicking down his door and demand that he put down the Macanudo and come out with his hands up or anything along those lines.

Ok, so it's recognition. Understandable, most everyone has probably been there at one point.

You are trying to change his tastes though. You're trying to expand them, this is a change. And while that might be great for someone who is into cigars, doesn't really sound like he is. Enjoy the time smoking with him, don't fret over trying to help him when he doesn't want to be helped. He chose to be closed off, but he's happy there.

A long time ago, I gave a good friend (who is a cigarette smoker, not really a cigar smoker) of mine a tin of RyJ Bullys, one of those 3 or 4 cigar fold out tins that JR sells, as a birthday gift since I knew that was one of the only cigars he likes. A few months later I get a call from him thanking me for the great cigar. I was puzzled, he doesn't have a humidor, where was he keeping them. He mentioned that he was at the jobsite, was waiting around, having a bad day, and opened up the glove box of his truck and found one of the cigars. It had been in there, with no humidification, baking in the California summer for three or four months. I started to say something about not being proper storage and he responded with "But I like them that way." *shrug* He was happy with them that way, so who am I to try and open his eyes and tell him that he'll benefit from better storage? For the remaining two or three cigars from that tin, very time he pulled one of these baked cigars out of the glove box and smoked it, I'd get a phone call thanking me for giving them to him.

He's happy with them. Maybe a better experience isn't what he's after. Screw it. I ain't gotta smoke them.

[T.G]

Meant to add something - ran out of time...



It's great that you want to help him find something else out there that might be better or that he might like equally. It's also good that you understand that it's not worth risking damaging a relationship over.

Enjoy the time smoking with him, don't fret over trying to help him when he doesn't want to be helped. He chose to be closed off, but he's happy there. If he feels you are fighting with him or trying to teach him, he might have the opposite reaction to what you are looking for (which is that you want to gain some recognition), I don't know, I don't know him, all I know is that the personality description you gave could easily sway that way. Heck, next time you smoke with him, ask him if you can try one of his Macanudos, that might go further for you than anything else.

You might even like the cigar too.

[Snake Hips]

People like what they like. My dad complains when I hand him a CC. He wants a Macanudo or a Swisher Sweet. Whatcha going to do? :)
Exactly. If this guy's as stubborn as said, he won't like a damned thing handed to him unless it's his Macanudo. Nothing else will taste good to him because he doesn't want it to taste good. And that's perfectly fine; as T.G is trying to say, the guy's happy, and happiness is happiness. Our happiness is from exploring the world of cigars and enjoying the nuances of many different styles of cigar. His happiness is is his chilled Macanudo. We're not any happier than he is with our choice of taste, we just get our happiness differently.

[Pauly Walnuts]

Meant to add something - ran out of time...



It's great that you want to help him find something else out there that might be better or that he might like equally. It's also good that you understand that it's not worth risking damaging a relationship over.

Enjoy the time smoking with him, don't fret over trying to help him when he doesn't want to be helped. He chose to be closed off, but he's happy there. If he feels you are fighting with him or trying to teach him, he might have the opposite reaction to what you are looking for (which is that you want to gain some recognition), I don't know, I don't know him, all I know is that the personality description you gave could easily sway that way. Heck, next time you smoke with him, ask him if you can try one of his Macanudos, that might go further for you than anything else.

You might even like the cigar too.

Okay I finally think we're closer to the same page now, I'll definately take some of these tips. Thanks for the help my man, just tryin to spread the love, but I definately understand what youre saying. Its very possible that thats the way it could go, because its his way or the highway and he tries to change my ways to suit his as well.... must be a family thing lol. The only thing that matters is that I enjoy smoking with him and it never turns ugly over what the other person is smoking.

[icehog3]

Okay I finally think we're closer to the same page now, I'll definately take some of these tips. Thanks for the help my man, just tryin to spread the love, but I definately understand what youre saying. Its very possible that thats the way it could go, because its his way or the highway and he tries to change my ways to suit his as well.... must be a family thing lol. The only thing that matters is that I enjoy smoking with him and it never turns ugly over what the other person is smoking.

:tu

[Starscream]

Okay I finally think we're closer to the same page now, I'll definately take some of these tips. Thanks for the help my man, just tryin to spread the love, but I definately understand what youre saying. Its very possible that thats the way it could go, because its his way or the highway and he tries to change my ways to suit his as well.... must be a family thing lol. The only thing that matters is that I enjoy smoking with him and it never turns ugly over what the other person is smoking.

To each his own. As long as you smoke together and you both love what you smoke, it's all good!:tu Don't mess it up.

[T.G]

Yessir freshly turned 19. Not feeling much male dominance either though, what you bolded is all true, I would like to show him I know a little bit about cigars despite my young age. Not by any means trying to tell him Macanudos are bad or that he should change his tastes, but find him a few more cigars that he would like because he picked up a Macanudo and closed himself off to other cigars. I dont see anything wrong with that, and most certainly not trying to dominate him or overpower him in any way. We have a very healthy relationship and would never let it be damaged over a cigar. Actually we've never even been in a heated arguement over one. Im not planning on kicking down his door and demand that he put down the Macanudo and come out with his hands up or anything along those lines.

Coolio. :tu

I hope whatever course of action you choose works out to the benefit of both you and your Uncle.