The LGC ping lighter

[OLS]

http://www.atlanticcigar.com/beatclockdeals.html

Cigary pointed this lighter out to us in another thread, and I was gonna continue the threadjack and realized, "WHY?" So this is a thread now. Deal with it, lol.


Just got my lighter in and I'd like to comment that if the regular priceof this is ACTUALLY $250, I'll eat my hat! BUT it is a nice lighter. WOrds have been bandied about over how realistic the "ping" is on opening. Cigary termed it "Dead-Nutts on" if I recall correctly. I went online to HEAR the ping of a S.T. Dupont lighter, and dead nutts is correct. It's got a nice soft flame and all of the controls and valves are recessed under fold away mechanizms just like the french-made superlighter. Maybe lighters shaped like it cost $250. Or maybe this is a better lighter than 25 bucks should be able to buy. I like mine. Glad I got two even. But the logo of LGC looks like some kind of sticker they threw on a white lighter, almost detracting frm the overall lighter vibe. But it is part of the finish, it just looks oddly small. And the GOLD trim looks a lot better in person, all of the silvery parts in the photo are actually gold. Plating or something, maybe just gold chrome, but nice.

Now the other tabletop lighter that I bought just to justify ordering online and paying shipping makes me feel a bit like a meth hed. Too big?

[TheLostGringo]

http://www.atlanticcigar.com/beatclockdeals.html

Cigary pointed this lighter out to us in another thread, and I was gonna continue the threadjack and realized, "WHY?" So this is a thread now. Deal with it, lol.


Just got my lighter in and I'd like to comment that if the regular priceof this is ACTUALLY $250, I'll eat my hat! BUT it is a nice lighter. WOrds have been bandied about over how realistic the "ping" is on opening. Cigary termed it "Dead-Nutts on" if I recall correctly. I went online to HEAR the ping of a S.T. Dupont lighter, and dead nutts is correct. It's got a nice soft flame and all of the controls and valves are recessed under fold away mechanizms just like the french-made superlighter. Maybe lighters shaped like it cost $250. Or maybe this is a better lighter than 25 bucks should be able to buy. I like mine. Glad I got two even. but the other tabletop lighter that I bought just to justify ordering online and paying shipping makes me feel a bit like a meth hed. Too big?


Bought two of these as well, arrived yesterday. I have been amazed at the niceness & quality for such a cheap lighter. I have been sitting in my office half the morning playing with it.

[OLS]

Apparently the beat the clock is for a month, so maybe a week or so to get in on this, lol.

[elderboy02]

It looks like the EverTorch

[OLS]

Weren't you guys saying the evertorch would light soft OR jet??

Or are you referring the the crackhead lighter? OK, no I google
pac-manned the thing and you are talking about the Dupont knockoff.
NO, there is no jet outlet on this lighter, but the lighters do look similar when
closed.

[captain53]

It looks like the EverTorch

:tpd:

[OLS]

Yeah, looking at the Ever-tech website, it sems like they offer quite a few types, so the dual flame
type feature being absent wouldn't DQ it from being from that manufacturer.
http://www.evertech-inc.com/pro.asp?pg=4&type=type1

[Brutus2600]

Mine is arriving today so I'll try to get some pictures up this evening, maybe even a video of the ping sound :)

[mosesbotbol]

Single of dual flame?

[Brutus2600]

These are just the single flame

[MiamiE]

I bought one also. Haven't gotten it yet though.

[Cigary]

WTG Brad! I'm still dickin around with this lighter and can't get enough of the PING...it's as authentic as the real one. The LGC emblem is ok...I like LGC cigars so I'm not offended by the logo. It doesnt have the combo torch/soft flame like the Ever Torch lighter which I have been looking at for the last 2 years. I like that one but it doesn't PING...I'm obsessed with the PING. I own 2 other lighters that have a combo torch/soft flame from buylighters.com and they work great so my fascination and fetish is fueled by none other than our resident brother on here...Bart the Ripper! I sent out one to him because he needs to play with this thing plus Bart is always bombing the crap outta me with his unlimited supply of swag.

I might ( no doubt ) will buy another LGC lighter because it's just that good. I'm not a lighter expert but being able to buy this sucker for only $24 is stealing it...and it's well worth $50 or over for what it does. If EverTorch can put that PING on its lighter I'd probably buy it because of the 2 in 1 feature. This hobby is breaking me cuz it just isn't about cigars anymore.

[wayner123]

How does it refuel? If it refuels like it's Dupont counter part, it is going to be a pain to refuel.

[MiamiE]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/MiamiE/96b74c88.jpg

[Cigary]

How does it refuel? If it refuels like it's Dupont counter part, it is going to be a pain to refuel.

It does...it's very easy and I actually like it. You flip up the little handle and unscrew it and then refill with good butane ( not a color coded cannister like the ST Dupont) and it refills very easily. The directions say to insert the tip for about 3 seconds and do that about 3-4 times to fill it to the maximum. Screw the threaded valve back in ( this also controls the flame adjustment with the little handle) and you are in business. I didn't get any blowback from the can and it was really nice and easy.

[MiamiE]

Mine filled easily also. 4 or 5 4 second pumps.

[Brutus2600]

I got mine in the mail yesterday, and I was immediately impressed. It looked WAY better than in the picture, yes, it had gold trim instead of what looked to be silver, but it still looked good. It is very heavy and just feels well built. For a copy of a famous lighter, I was impressed. Excited to hear the "dead nutts" on ping sound, I flipped open the lighter.

Well, to say the least, I wasn't very impressed. Maybe I got a dud? Do your lighters sound like this? Compared to a REAL S.T. Dupont...it sounds cheap and doesn't have a resounding ring. Below is a video of a real S.T. Dupont (not my video) and a video of my lighter I just took.

For $25 + shipping though...it's significantly nicer than any of the other $15-20 lighters I've purchased, and I'm glad to have a soft flame lighter now to compliment my torches :)

Real S.T. Dupont (http://www.youtube.com/v/b8AtAw9uBvs)

The La Gloria Cubana S.T. Dupont style lighter (http://www.youtube.com/v/kfTkCvAiOPI)

[cigarlvr]

Nice lighter what kind of Flints do you need to use with these?

[MiamiE]

For $24 mine sounds exactly like the $200 Dupont! :r

[Cigary]

I got mine in the mail yesterday, and I was immediately impressed. It looked WAY better than in the picture, yes, it had gold trim instead of what looked to be silver, but it still looked good. It is very heavy and just feels well built. For a copy of a famous lighter, I was impressed. Excited to hear the "dead nutts" on ping sound, I flipped open the lighter.

Well, to say the least, I wasn't very impressed. Maybe I got a dud? Do your lighters sound like this? Compared to a REAL S.T. Dupont...it sounds cheap and doesn't have a resounding ring. Below is a video of a real S.T. Dupont (not my video) and a video of my lighter I just took.

For $25 + shipping though...it's significantly nicer than any of the other $15-20 lighters I've purchased, and I'm glad to have a soft flame lighter now to compliment my torches :)

Real S.T. Dupont (http://www.youtube.com/v/b8AtAw9uBvs)

The La Gloria Cubana S.T. Dupont style lighter (http://www.youtube.com/v/kfTkCvAiOPI)

Dude...you did get a "dud" as that doesn't even sound like mine. Mine when I open it up has the exact PING of the ST Dupont. You have 3 days to return it back to Atlantic and get another one...hurry hurry!

[replicant_argent]

EverTorches...




Ping.

[Cigary]

EverTorch Pings? I love the dual softflame/torch but if they ping...I think I need this one too.

[CigarGuy88]

just ordered one...hopefully I don't get a dud too

[Cigary]

I'm 2 for 2 Steve but they say if you aren't satisfied you have 3 days to return it to them for a refund or exchange. If you don't do that then you are under the Manufacturers warranty which means the PING probably doesn't factor as a "warranty issue" but who knows as if you pay by credit card you can always dispute the charge and win.

[replicant_argent]

I'm 2 for 2 Steve but they say if you aren't satisfied you have 3 days to return it to them for a refund or exchange. If you don't do that then you are under the Manufacturers warranty which means the PING probably doesn't factor as a "warranty issue" but who knows as if you pay by credit card you can always dispute the charge and win.

wow.. you would dispute a CC charge for an "unsuitable ping"?
BTW.. if you look at these lighters with ping, you would find a phillips screw head and a piece of metal, some experimentation, clipping, tightening or bending may have a positive outcome.

[MiamiE]

Everyone is forgetting you paid $24.

[Brutus2600]

wow.. you would dispute a CC charge for an "unsuitable ping"?
BTW.. if you look at these lighters with ping, you would find a phillips screw head and a piece of metal, some experimentation, clipping, tightening or bending may have a positive outcome.

Looked at it a little bit and without really ripping the lighter apart to get to the phillips screw in the cap of the lighter I couldn't really adjust anything.

Everyone is forgetting you paid $24.

Haha, I didn't forget. I know what I got for $24 and even with the dinky ping I'd be ok with it, but if others have a lighter that sounds like it's supposed to, I'll call them when they open Monday and see what they're willing to do. :)

[TheLostGringo]

My 2 are perfect and a really nice ping!!

[Cigary]

wow.. you would dispute a CC charge for an "unsuitable ping"?
BTW.. if you look at these lighters with ping, you would find a phillips screw head and a piece of metal, some experimentation, clipping, tightening or bending may have a positive outcome.

I was telling the poster "if he" wanted to return the item he has 3 days and they will take care of it. I am looking at mine and there is nothing on the bottom of the lighter that has a phillips head screw. There is the small handle that you lift with your fingernail to unscrew the filler head like the ST Dupont and you recharge it very easily...screw the filler back in and wait for a couple of minutes and it lights first time. The handle is used to adjust the flame so as far as clipping, tightening or bending of anything on this item I don't see anything that is going to bind unless someone cross threads the filler back into the lighter.

Anytime I ever disputed a CC charge it was for good reasons and it was never contested.

[replicant_argent]

wow.. you would dispute a CC charge for an "unsuitable ping"?
BTW.. if you look at these lighters with ping, you would find a phillips screw head and a piece of metal, some experimentation, clipping, tightening or bending may have a positive outcome.

Looked at it a little bit and without really ripping the lighter apart to get to the phillips screw in the cap of the lighter I couldn't really adjust anything.

Looks like you looked in the right spot. However, with the construction process, it may be assembled (cap assembly) first, then attached to the sleeve body, so it might be more of a pain to tweak. The phillips is on the hinge side, and access is occluded by the lighter body when assembled.

I was telling the poster "if he" wanted to return the item he has 3 days and they will take care of it. I am looking at mine and there is nothing on the bottom of the lighter that has a phillips head screw. you aren't eyballing the right spot. There is the small handle that you lift with your fingernail to unscrew the filler head like the ST Dupont and you recharge it very easily...screw the filler back in and wait for a couple of minutes and it lights first time. The handle is used to adjust the flame so as far as clipping, tightening or bending of anything on this item I don't see anything that is going to bind unless someone cross threads the filler back into the lighter.

Anytime I ever disputed a CC charge it was for good reasons and it was never contested.

er... One mans "good reason" is anothers "you did what for a 24 dollar lighter?"

PING probably doesn't factor as a "warranty issue" but who knows as if you pay by credit card you can always dispute the charge and win.
Looks like you would either recommend a CC dispute to someone else or do it yourself for a "ping issue" to me.

[OLS]

Having watched both videos back to back, you are right, the ST is much
more musical. They are in the same range, which is how I determined that
mine was so close. But I watched the same video you did there and for some
reason never put it together the the STD (hehe) has a nice clear musical ring
and my cheap lady lighter has a clink.

I am good with it. You need to sue Cigary or his friend and keep the lighter.

[OLS]

I think there might be some kind of tension adjustment you could do with the pring to alter the sustain on the ring,
the only problem it sounds like it has. But better materials likely play a role, may be the biggest role.

[TheLostGringo]

Seams like for the price we are splitting hairs about the sound. I love my lighter.

[Brutus2600]

In my review post I pretty clearly stated for $24 it is a great lighter :) By no means was I expecting an exact replica of the real Dupont lighters. However I was just lead to believe that everybody else had much better results so I just didn't want to sit on it if I had gotten a dud lighter.

[Cigary]

I am good with it. You need to sue Cigary or his friend and keep the lighter.

Lol,,,you might even get enough money to buy another $24 lighter.:=:

[OLS]

Yeah, don't feel too bad. We're not accusing you of being petty. haha.
Like I said, I went through a very similar, if not exact sequence of events. Read Cigary's
post, google and Utubed the ping sound of the original, remembered the pitch, ignored the
tone, got in my lighter, heard the same pitch and never even considered the total lack of
sustain. TO ME, and I do not know what the Dupont lighter was made of, it's all in the
metal. You get a nice ringing sustain out of a high grade metal. Knockoffs, you could
certainly expect a total lack of a ring. Maybe Dupont's lighter actually has PRING.
Bling with pring. The knockoffs have ping.

After watching both videos again, I think my knockoff has a little more of a pronounced
ping, but still lacks the resounding ping.

[Brutus2600]

Yeah, I'm not messing with an RMA on this. It's a great looking lighter with a really nice flame. I seriously doubt I'd get any different kind of sound from another one.

I really enjoy the light I get from this lighter for sure though, worth the money!

[MiamiE]

Anyone know how we would go about replacing the flints?

[Brutus2600]

I'm guessing dupont flints will work well, and you can get an 8 pack of them for like $2, although I forget the website I found them on.

I'm not sure Zippo flints would be the same thing or the right size, which is unfortunate because those are readily available everywhere :-P

[aich75013]

I'm guessing dupont flints will work well, and you can get an 8 pack of them for like $2, although I forget the website I found them on.

I'm not sure Zippo flints would be the same thing or the right size, which is unfortunate because those are readily available everywhere :-P

These? My lighter arrives tomorrow.
http://www.bonitasmokeshop.com/st_dupont_pocket_lighters_gas_re.htm

[Brutus2600]

Haha, yeah, that was the exact site I had found. I'm guesing the gray/white ones are the ones we need.

Also, that OpusX Dupont lighter is a thing of beauty...if only that one was $24.95 too, haha :p

[aich75013]

Also, that OpusX Dupont lighter is a thing of beauty...if only that one was $24.95 too, haha :p

Yeah. I like the black one, but for $4500 for the set, I think I can live w/o it.

[Giants85]

I was telling the poster "if he" wanted to return the item he has 3 days and they will take care of it. I am looking at mine and there is nothing on the bottom of the lighter that has a phillips head screw. There is the small handle that you lift with your fingernail to unscrew the filler head like the ST Dupont and you recharge it very easily...screw the filler back in and wait for a couple of minutes and it lights first time. The handle is used to adjust the flame so as far as clipping, tightening or bending of anything on this item I don't see anything that is going to bind unless someone cross threads the filler back into the lighter.

Anytime I ever disputed a CC charge it was for good reasons and it was never contested.

I believe the philips head screw that they are referring to would be the one in the cap of the lighter, where the "PING" is actually originating from.

It seems that there is a strip of metal inside the cap or head of the lighter which is actually causing the PING(possibly even some sort of a bell behind it???), some adjustment/modification here could lead to a better PING.

My lighter PINGS if I hit the head, while open, with my finger.

Never seen an ST Dupont in person, is this how they generate their PING as well?

[Cigary]

I believe the philips head screw that they are referring to would be the one in the cap of the lighter, where the "PING" is actually originating from.

It seems that there is a strip of metal inside the cap or head of the lighter which is actually causing the PING(possibly even some sort of a bell behind it???), some adjustment/modification here could lead to a better PING.

My lighter PINGS if I hit the head, while open, with my finger.

Never seen an ST Dupont in person, is this how they generate their PING as well?

Nice detective work...will have to "play" around with it.
Incidentally, the "ping" was never supposed to exist; in the 50's, when S. T. Dupont first started making lighters, a mistake was made, and two cogs accidentally ended up generating excess friction. This resulted in an unwanted noise whenever the lighter was opened. The company, striving for perfection, understandably wanted this mistake fixed. However, it didn't take long for the "ping" to work its magic on customers, and needless to say, the company left the mistake in place. The "ping" might be what makes S. T. Dupont lighters distinctive, but it is not what makes them special, what gives them their charm. The lighters are a case of the whole being greater than the sum; each aspects of the lighter, the weight, the "ping," the high quality of materials, the care and precision that goes into the assembly, are all special in their own right. But, when put together these individual parts create a lighter unlike any other.

courtesy of http://blogcritics.org/tastes/article/the-charm-of-an-s-t/page-2/

[ripper]

Cigary whomped me upside the head with a generous gift of this exceedingly nice lighter. It's almost too nice to use.
Just what this old Bart needs - another addition to my addiction. Gary has helped me matriculate from matchbooks to BIC lighters to a shelf of butane lighters. Thanks professor -- and watch for those big brown trucks!

[MiamiE]

How would one go about replacing the flint? I have never used a lighter like this. Only torches!

[Brutus2600]

Buy the replacement flints that were posted earlier in the thread then that little slide on the top of the lighter slides back and you would drop the replacement flint in there. If you look closely you can see the flint in the chamber and how it's positioned.

[Cigary]

Cigary whomped me upside the head with a generous gift of this exceedingly nice lighter. It's almost too nice to use.
Just what this old Bart needs - another addition to my addiction. Gary has helped me matriculate from matchbooks to BIC lighters to a shelf of butane lighters. Thanks professor -- and watch for those big brown trucks!

Oh no...Bart, tell me you're not going to release the Cigar Hounds of Hell again? I'm still black and blue and bitten from the last blast you sent to me.

Buy the replacement flints that were posted earlier in the thread then that little slide on the top of the lighter slides back and you would drop the replacement flint in there. If you look closely you can see the flint in the chamber and how it's positioned.

For us mechanically challenged who don't ever replace flints...is there something written with pictures? I'm speaking for Bart of course.:=:

[Brutus2600]

For us mechanically challenged who don't ever replace flints...is there something written with pictures? I'm speaking for Bart of course.:=:

I can take some pictures friday and post them up, but until then, really all you do is slide that ribbed thing on the very top of the lighter (while it's open) towards the hinge of the lid. If you look down from the top, you'll see a hole right next to where the flame comes out. That's where the flint is (you'll see a tiny cylinder laying on it's side). If you tipped the lighter upside down while holding that slide back, the flint falls out (do this over a white piece of paper or something so you can easily find it).

To put it back in, just drop it in and make sure it lays on it's side and not up and down. If you don't get it in right, your lighter won't spark.

Hope that helps until I can get some pics up.

[MiamiE]

Thanks!!

[Cigary]

I can take some pictures friday and post them up, but until then, really all you do is slide that ribbed thing on the very top of the lighter (while it's open) towards the hinge of the lid. If you look down from the top, you'll see a hole right next to where the flame comes out. That's where the flint is (you'll see a tiny cylinder laying on it's side). If you tipped the lighter upside down while holding that slide back, the flint falls out (do this over a white piece of paper or something so you can easily find it).

To put it back in, just drop it in and make sure it lays on it's side and not up and down. If you don't get it in right, your lighter won't spark.

Hope that helps until I can get some pics up.

Thanks Brian...ya hear that Bart, he's going to put pictures up for you. :=:

( taking notes just in case no pictures don't come up)

[rogerga]

need to get one of those...:tu

[bonjing]

How would one go about replacing the flint? I have never used a lighter like this. Only torches!

Mine just came in today, nice looking lighter and a fun little toy.

To replace the flint: Flip the top of the lighter open. and on the top portion of the lighter, where the grooves are, slide it back and then drop in a new flint. It actually looks like a zippo flint will fit in there. I; ll know for sure when I get home.

And be careful when adjusting the screw in the cap, it is VERY VERY soft. I kinda stripped mine already :td

[macsauce13]

It's a great looking lighter! It lit it's first cigar last night. A My Father Le Bijou!

[ripper]

Thanks Brian...ya hear that Bart, he's going to put pictures up for you. :=:

( taking notes just in case no pictures don't come up)
This is my idea of pictures:
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/bartripp/cigargirltampa.jpg

[cigarlvr]

One of the ones I got the lid doesnt close 100% perfect anyone else have that issue and is there a quick fix other than sending it back?

[Cigary]

One of the ones I got the lid doesnt close 100% perfect anyone else have that issue and is there a quick fix other than sending it back?

That is what the 3 day warranty is all about...within the 3 days you send it back to Atlantic after the 3 days you send it back to the manufacturer. The lid on mine is pretty much perfect and sorry that yours doesn't close right...regardless of the price of any product if you aren't happy with it a return is in order. Keep us posted if you do send it back as I'd like to see how well their CS handles it. It's not enough to sell a product it's the service after the sale.:tu

[Brutus2600]

If you unscrew the bottom fill valve there is a threaded insert that you can take a flathead screwdriver and loosen slightly. If you take a very small flathead and unscrew the one holding the flame adjustment part slightly also, the lighter lid will sit more flush. I did that and avoided having to send mine back in, paying the shipping and waiting for the new one to come :p haha.

P.S. I might finally get a chance to take some pics for a tutorial on the lighter this weekend :p haha

[Cigary]

If you unscrew the bottom fill valve there is a threaded insert that you can take a flathead screwdriver and loosen slightly. If you take a very small flathead and unscrew the one holding the flame adjustment part slightly also, the lighter lid will sit more flush. I did that and avoided having to send mine back in, paying the shipping and waiting for the new one to come :p haha.

P.S. I might finally get a chance to take some pics for a tutorial on the lighter this weekend :p haha

You Da Man Brian...resident LGC Lighter expert. Saving this thread for future reference. Can't wait for the pic tutorial...for Bart, of course.:rolleyes:

[Brutus2600]

Lol, only reason is because...I've already taken it apart trying to figure out how it works and how to change the ping :p rofl

[bonjing]

so were you able to change the ping?

[Brutus2600]

The only change was...it didn't ping anymore. My thinking was I could bend it back enough to let the ring resound a little longer, but then it wasn't hitting the top of the lighter enough to ping. I bent it back and it's like it was to begin with now, so I'm just going to leave it alone :p

[bonjing]

Hahaha, that's what I kind of did with mine, decided to leave it alone after a while. I think I screwed with it so much it's acting funny now. When I turn it on its side I get a huge flame then when I put it right side up the flame is normal. Not sure if I wanna use it anymore, still, it looks nice.

[Brutus2600]

I haven't turned mine on the side so I don't know if the flame gets bigger or not...also I'm sitting in the living room and the lighter is out in the garage. I'm too lazy to go test it right now :p haha

[aich75013]

FYI, Zippo flints work just fine. side by side it lookes to be teh exact same size, and it lights just fine.

[Brutus2600]

Sweet, good to know Adrian, thanks for the heads up :)

Also, I realize I've failed you all miserably with picture walk throughs :p It's been a little hectic with work lately. Good news is this project that's making it hectic ends the 13th, haha

[Cigary]

FYI, Zippo flints work just fine. side by side it lookes to be teh exact same size, and it lights just fine.

Good news! Thx for the update and will get a few of these when mine needs em.