Help with Cubans and aging

[Patrick B]

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on my first box purchase of Cubans. PSD4's most likely, or might go with Monte 4's as I love both of these. I am the least patient cigar smoker on the planet and I hate waiting for a cigar to be ready to smoke. At what age can I expect either of these cigars to be in good smoking shape? I realize many of you will say the longer I can wait the better, but that isn't going to happen. If they are 6 months old will they be terrible? A year? Please throw out some knowledge...

[adampc22]

tbh u never can tell how long. some will taste awesome after years of ageing and some will just taste bad and never get better

[e-man67]

Hey Patrick, Both the PSD4's and Monte 4's are smoking great ROTT...no need to wait. I have 09 PSD4's and 08 Monte 4's and both are good. I honestly haven't had a bad Partagas or Monte yet in any size any year.

[elderboy02]

OMG! Patrick is going to buy Cubans! Welcome to the darkside! :tu

Grab some PSD4's. :dr

[Patrick B]

Eric, you are the man. That's exactly what I needed to hear. Wanna part with any of yours? :)

[e-man67]

Eric, you are the man. That's exactly what I needed to hear. Wanna part with any of yours? :)


All you gotta do is ask! I will hook you up with a little sampler before you buy!

[Patrick B]

Good lookin out! See you at JJ's soon.

[pnoon]

PSD4s are notorious for going thru a sick period. Why do PSD4s have this reputation? I don't really know. What I do know is that I have had PSD4s that were sick and you definitely wouldn't want to be smoking them.

Given your impatience and expectations, of the two you mentioned, I would choose the Monte 4s.
:2

[Mugen910]

I've rarely had any problems with fresh Sig I's or Trini Reyes...might give those a shot.

[pnoon]

I've rarely had any problems with fresh Sig I's or Trini Reyes...might give those a shot.

WTG, Bao. Open Pandora's Box, why dontcha? :)

Now we'll have 37 posters with 60+ suggestions for their favorite fresh smoke. This will do nothing to help the OP who wanted to know which of 2 is preferred.

[e-man67]

I have only had one full box of PSD4's (09's) and they are good...I have had several singles of various years and didn't have a problem...with that said, I still prefer the 898, coronas, or Connaisseur series.

[Mugen910]

WTG, Bao. Open Pandora's Box, why dontcha? :)

Now we'll have 37 posters with 60+ suggestions for their favorite fresh smoke. This will do nothing to help the OP who wanted to know which of 2 is preferred.

You know I love to open the flood gates....:banger

Patrick...don't start a "What do I buy thread?" or I'll send my enforcer Dan!

I say forget the PSD4's and go with the Montes...

[pnoon]

You know I love to open the flood gates....:banger


Me, too. :pn

[Noodles]

Buy a box each. When PSD4 goes through their sick period, you can still keep smoking Monte 4's. By the time D4's comes out of it's sick period, you are probably moving on other cigars anyways ;)

[akumushi]

My first box purchase was PSD4, but I had the patience to sit on them for 6 months based on everything I'd read about them, and I never had one that tasted "sick." They are worth the wait IMO, one of my favorite cigars. They do come in a 10 count box, so if your funds are limited, you count buy a 10 or 25 count of the Monte 4 and a 10 count of the PSD4 to sit on! If you can afford it, I would just buy a 25 ct of each. :2

[Mugen910]

Buy a box each. When PSD4 goes through their sick period, you can still keep smoking Monte 4's. By the time D4's comes out of it's sick period, you are probably moving on other cigars anyways ;)

This man speaks the truth!

[JJG]

Buy a box each. When PSD4 goes through their sick period, you can still keep smoking Monte 4's. By the time D4's comes out of it's sick period, you are probably moving on other cigars anyways ;)

:tpd:


but if you have to choose one or the other, get the MCs. I smoke everything right off the truck, and I have never had a bad #4.

[Noomis]

Some vendors will actually sell cigars with already +1 years of age on them, which means they should be ready to smoke as soon as you get them (depending on your tastes of course). I'd suggest contacting some of the ones you're thinking of purchasing from and asking them if they could provide you with some box codes––it's worth a shot.

[Blueface]

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on my first box purchase of Cubans. PSD4's most likely, or might go with Monte 4's as I love both of these. I am the least patient cigar smoker on the planet and I hate waiting for a cigar to be ready to smoke. At what age can I expect either of these cigars to be in good smoking shape? I realize many of you will say the longer I can wait the better, but that isn't going to happen. If they are 6 months old will they be terrible? A year? Please throw out some knowledge...

I love these questions.
The best answer I can give you is:
According to who?

The maker: Made them to smoke now
Folks that love ROTT: ALL cigars are ready now. Age? What age? I don't know if I will be alive that long
Folks that don't like a sick period and it comes: Avoid the sick period but try to figure out exactly when that will be
Folks that like a few years on them: Wait a few years
Folks that like lots of years on them: Wait lots of years
Folks that like 40-50 years type vintage: Wait 40-50 years or buy them then and pay lots of money and kick yourself for not buying them now

Hope that helps.:D

[Blueface]

BTW,
I call out BS to anyone that thinks Cubans get better with age.

Just wait until after 50.
High cholesterol
High blood pressure
Kidney stones

.......and that is just skimming the surface.:D

[Jbailey]

BTW,
I call out BS to anyone that thinks Cubans get better with age.

Just wait until after 50.
High cholesterol
High blood pressure
Kidney stones

.......and that is just skimming the surface.:D

Plus your always plugged Carlos. :D

It's hard to pick not knowing what you like.
For something to smoke now I would agree on the Monte#4's over the PSD4. If you are going to put them away for 3-5 years (or more) I would lean more towards the PSD4.

[Col. Kurtz]

I'm going to go against the grain and say grab the PSD4. I have much less than a box of TEB 08 and every one has been outstanding. The Monte 4 seems more inconsistent (at least to me).

I think the key is, ask your vendor what is smoking good right now. Tell them what you're thinking. Have them open and select a box for you. They may have an even better suggestion based on what they see day in and day out.

Hope you get a "cracker" box of whatever you decide.

Edit again to say: as far as aging, start with something that has potential. I don't believe 10 years will turn around a rancid cigar.

[Patrick B]

Thanks everyone for your good points! Probably going to get both and share with a few buddies so I'll have some of each. :)

[tupacboy]

good choice on getting both... you can never get enough... i went from 12 cigars to well over 300 in a matter of weeks...

[LasciviousXXX]

Had a PSD4 from '94 and '95 last month. Both were AWESOME!

+1 for PSD4 aging :tu

[elderboy02]

Thanks everyone for your good points! Probably going to get both and share with a few buddies so I'll have some of each. :)

Sweet :banger

[Patrick B]

PSD4's in route. Can't wait.

[357]

PSD4's in route. Can't wait.

You'll enjoy them I'm sure. If not, I'm sure you won't have trouble finding anyone to take them off your hands. LOL

[Blueface]

I am telling you guys over and over and you just don't seem to understand.

This Cuban aging crap is so, so overrated.

This freaking week, H1N1, coupled with a kidney stone of all other things that could have happened, and then throw in putting your buddy down to sleep and this aged Cuban was a mess. In fact, I would have much preferred to be young or ROTT instead. I think I could have handled it better that way. So...............fresh is awesome at times, specially once you get old and realize being fresh is long lost story.;)

You can always get old. You can't always get young.

If you happen to get old and by luck "get young", well, there is a term for that..................dirty old man.

[LasciviousXXX]

If you happen to get old and by luck "get young", well, there is a term for that..................dirty old man.


I've heard it called "lucky bastard" as well :tu

[elderboy02]

Congrats on your 1st box purchase!

[Druid_Geek]

Congrats P.B.! Hopefully this is just the start of many, many more to come! Let us know what you think of them when your ready!