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newcigarz
03-26-2010, 10:57 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/26/apple-executives-cash-in-over-1-million-shares-of-apple-stock/

In a series of filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission yesterday, Apple revealed that a number of its senior executives have cashed in on over a million shares of Apple stock as shares granted to them over four years ago became fully vested. Fortune offers a summary of the transactions:

More than a million restricted shares of Apple (AAPL) stock that seven of them were granted on Dec. 14, 2005 became fully vested Wednesday. The next day, with Apple opening at an all-time record high, four of them sold off all those shares pursuant, as the SEC Form 4 has it, to a Rule 10b5-1 trading plan.
The SEC maintains strict regulations regarding insider trading, requiring those shareholders with access to nonpublic information that could materially affect a company's stock price to fully disclose their trading to the SEC and take other steps such as scheduling trades in advance in order to limit the ability of such shareholders to take advantage of other traders. The vesting of stock grants that occurred this week also created tax liabilities for the executives involved, requiring them to cash in at least some of their holdings to cover those costs.

Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook took home the biggest payday yesterday, selling 300,000 shares of stock for a total of $68.8 million. $32 million of that amount was set aside for taxes. Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer and Senior Vice President of Retail Ron Johnson each turned in 200,000 shares to the tune of nearly $46 million apiece, and Senior Vice President of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller cashed in 150,000 shares for nearly $35 million.

Senior Vice Presidents Bertrand Serlet (Software Engineering), Scott Forstall (iPhone Software), and Bob Mansfield (Mac Hardware Engineering) also cashed in on their stock grants, but only in sufficient quantities to cover their tax obligations.

the nub
03-26-2010, 11:42 AM
what an evil thing to do! They should have waited until it came down from it's 52 week high and then cashed them in.

taltos
03-26-2010, 11:59 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/26/apple-executives-cash-in-over-1-million-shares-of-apple-stock/

In a series of filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission yesterday, Apple revealed that a number of its senior executives have cashed in on over a million shares of Apple stock as shares granted to them over four years ago became fully vested. Fortune offers a summary of the transactions:

More than a million restricted shares of Apple (AAPL) stock that seven of them were granted on Dec. 14, 2005 became fully vested Wednesday. The next day, with Apple opening at an all-time record high, four of them sold off all those shares pursuant, as the SEC Form 4 has it, to a Rule 10b5-1 trading plan.
The SEC maintains strict regulations regarding insider trading, requiring those shareholders with access to nonpublic information that could materially affect a company's stock price to fully disclose their trading to the SEC and take other steps such as scheduling trades in advance in order to limit the ability of such shareholders to take advantage of other traders. The vesting of stock grants that occurred this week also created tax liabilities for the executives involved, requiring them to cash in at least some of their holdings to cover those costs.

Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook took home the biggest payday yesterday, selling 300,000 shares of stock for a total of $68.8 million. $32 million of that amount was set aside for taxes. Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer and Senior Vice President of Retail Ron Johnson each turned in 200,000 shares to the tune of nearly $46 million apiece, and Senior Vice President of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller cashed in 150,000 shares for nearly $35 million.

Senior Vice Presidents Bertrand Serlet (Software Engineering), Scott Forstall (iPhone Software), and Bob Mansfield (Mac Hardware Engineering) also cashed in on their stock grants, but only in sufficient quantities to cover their tax obligations.What's your point? They take stock options instead of pay. They did what was allowed and did it according to the rules.

newcigarz
03-26-2010, 12:11 PM
What's your point? They take stock options instead of pay. They did what was allowed and did it according to the rules.

:confused: Just sharing some info. What's your point?

ScottishSmoker
03-26-2010, 12:15 PM
If I were the execs, I would also cash out now....and then I would take my money that I made and started playing puts on Apple for the months of May and June....no way is that stock going too maintain its value...

taltos
03-26-2010, 12:17 PM
:confused: Just sharing some info. What's your point?I misread your post, thought that you were saying that the sale was wrong. We have known each other since the old board, sorry for misreading your post.;s

newcigarz
03-26-2010, 12:18 PM
I misread your post, thought that you were saying that the sale was wrong. We have known each other since the old board, sorry for misreading your post.;s

I don't mind being called out, but I have to do something first. :D

I don't blame them one bit.

MiamiE
03-26-2010, 12:27 PM
Thats BADASS! Wish I was them!

MiamiE
03-26-2010, 12:28 PM
So is Apple going to go up or down?

bobarian
03-26-2010, 12:33 PM
They were forced by the new tax rules to cash in some stock based upon the vesting date. Unless you have the cash on hand, taxes are due on the stock value on the date they become fully vested. In some cases these guys may have millions of shares to pay taxes upon. In some ways they would have been better off to become fully vested at a lower price and then see the stock rise. Now they have a big problem it the stock falls as they paid taxes on the high. :2

taltos
03-26-2010, 12:33 PM
The effects of a sell off like that could be a short-term down turn but the product is too good for the stock to stay down too long.

massphatness
03-26-2010, 12:41 PM
Do the TOE have to file with the SEC when they cash in their vested shares of Cgar Asylum?



:D

shilala
03-26-2010, 12:59 PM
The next day, with Apple opening at an all-time record high...
Freakin brilliant.
The rough part was the setting half of it aside for taxes part. That's gotta suck.

Darrell
03-26-2010, 01:02 PM
The next day, with Apple opening at an all-time record high...
Freakin brilliant.
The rough part was the setting half of it aside for taxes part. That's gotta suck.

Yeah but it's still multi millions they probably did not have prior. :tu

OLS
03-26-2010, 01:05 PM
I hate big executives like Dave K as much as the next guy, :) but even while I think it is
wrong for people to be richer than me, I think it is MEGAwrong to have to pay 47-8 percent
tax on ANYTHING! That is so wrong. Just cause it's a huge pile of money doesn't mean
there should be an equally huge pile of tax. 28 percent on that would be fair.

Footbag
03-26-2010, 01:29 PM
They were forced by the new tax rules to cash in some stock based upon the vesting date. Unless you have the cash on hand, taxes are due on the stock value on the date they become fully vested. In some cases these guys may have millions of shares to pay taxes upon. In some ways they would have been better off to become fully vested at a lower price and then see the stock rise. Now they have a big problem it the stock falls as they paid taxes on the high. :2

That's a good point, but they also could've chose to sell only enough to pay the taxes.

As a shareholder that's been considering selling, this is a considerable nudge in that direction.

bobarian
03-26-2010, 02:39 PM
That's a good point, but they also could've chose to sell only enough to pay the taxes.

As a shareholder that's been considering selling, this is a considerable nudge in that direction.

Maybe they need a little extra cigar money! :r

mosesbotbol
03-26-2010, 02:46 PM
I think it is MEGAwrong to have to pay 47-8 percent
tax on ANYTHING! That is so wrong. Just cause it's a huge pile of money doesn't mean
there should be an equally huge pile of tax. 28 percent on that would be fair.

:tpd:

Even 28% is too much. Should be around 15% would be fair.

DrDubzz
03-26-2010, 10:46 PM
Yeah but it's still multi millions they probably did not have prior. :tu

yeah, but it's freaking half

congrats on your success, now give half of your success to the government

it would be no more or less atrocious if he made $100 and had to give 48 to taxes

Sauer Grapes
03-27-2010, 08:40 AM
If I were the execs, I would also cash out now....and then I would take my money that I made and started playing puts on Apple for the months of May and June....no way is that stock going too maintain its value...

Probably not a bad idea... but I thought the same thing (about it not maintaining it's value) back when the stock hit 200 and sold half my position. Kind of wish I hadn't, but I had more than doubled up, so I didn't want to be greedy.

Sauer Grapes
03-27-2010, 08:43 AM
Yeah but it's still multi millions they probably did not have prior. :tu

yeah, but it's freaking half

congrats on your success, now give half of your success to the government

it would be no more or less atrocious if he made $100 and had to give 48 to taxes

Agreed. That's why a flat tax would be the most fair. The rich would still pay way more taxes because 15% (or whatever %age) of a million is way more than 15% of $10,000 (not that someone that only made $10K would be required to pay in this country).

Seriously, it makes me think why even try to become super rich if the G is just going to steal half of it away. Why not just live middle, or upper middle class and not give the G as much?

Footbag
03-27-2010, 09:19 AM
Agreed. That's why a flat tax would be the most fair. The rich would still pay way more taxes because 15% (or whatever %age) of a million is way more than 15% of $10,000 (not that someone that only made $10K would be required to pay in this country).

Seriously, it makes me think why even try to become super rich if the G is just going to steal half of it away. Why not just live middle, or upper middle class and not give the G as much?

It's a time tested fact that no matter how much the government taxes you, people will still be trying to get rich.

Sauer Grapes
03-27-2010, 09:55 AM
It's a time tested fact that no matter how much the government taxes you, people will still be trying to get rich.

Agreed, albeit less people.