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shilala
03-25-2010, 08:21 AM
I just swapped out a couple 300gb hdd's with a couple 1.5tb platters in my main rig. There's two more 200gb platters and another pair of 300gb platters in that machine for a total of 4tb now. I think that should do for awhile.
I did it because, as ridiculous as it sounds, 1.6tb was never enough.
I use the second drives of the same position as backups, in case one of my drives flakes.
The reason I mention this is that I have the same problem with my computer as my cigars. Never enough space.
How many gigs in your rig?

Darrell
03-25-2010, 08:23 AM
320 GB. :r

Trouble
03-25-2010, 08:27 AM
80gb. My Sony Viao I bought in 2000. It was a sweet computer for its time. I decided I would not replace it until it breaks. It just refuses to quit.

Scott - What do you need all the memory for? Games, Business?

In 10 years I have filled about 25gb of my 80 and it is mostly just music....

kelmac07
03-25-2010, 08:28 AM
570GB. 4.6 TB??? Scott...brother, the first step is admittting that you have a problem. :r :r

T.G
03-25-2010, 08:29 AM
That must be one impressive X-rated movie collection...

Darrell
03-25-2010, 08:31 AM
That must be one impressive **** collection...

The largest she male **** collection on the East Coast, I hear. :D

replicant_argent
03-25-2010, 08:31 AM
Scott has realized that a James Bond style uber-villain needs uber computing power. Nothing to see here, move along.

shilala
03-25-2010, 08:33 AM
80gb. My Sony Viao I bought in 2000. It was a sweet computer for its time. I decided I would not replace it until it breaks. It just refuses to quit.

Scott - What do you need all the memory for? Games, Business?

In 10 years I have filled about 25gb of my 80 and it is mostly just music....
I keep tons of music and tons of movies for my iphone. Initially it was gobs of movies for all the ipods.
I have most movies in full dvd rip, then in divx .avi, then in .mp4.
That way I can get 5 or 6 movies on one dvd, and have them all transcoded for the ipods and iphones.
That takes up an incredible amount of space, about 5 or 6gb per movie.
With the advent of bluray, I'm really gonna be in big trouble. :D

nozero
03-25-2010, 08:44 AM
250 GB on my laptop, 2 TB on my WHS.

mosesbotbol
03-25-2010, 08:44 AM
I use a 1TB external for back up's and buying 4TB external to copy music from a friend when I go to visit him next month.

tuxpuff
03-25-2010, 08:47 AM
Just 1TB locally...and I manage about 35TB of MySQL db's at work.

Ashcan Bill
03-25-2010, 09:08 AM
Wow.

I've got a whole 140 GB, of which I've used a whopping 26 GB. :r

I think I have at least double that on the notebook though. The PC is getting up there in age. ;)

maninblack
03-25-2010, 09:12 AM
256 MB.Thats just how I roll.

poker
03-25-2010, 09:16 AM
2 tb

kgoings
03-25-2010, 09:19 AM
I have 4.something TB but it is setup in raid so I only really have 2TB of storage...I need more. Doing photography eats up storage...plus I rip a copy of all my DVD's when I get them...my kids are always scratching or losing my stuff!

shilala
03-25-2010, 09:33 AM
I have 4.something TB but it is setup in raid so I only really have 2TB of storage...I need more. Doing photography eats up storage...plus I rip a copy of all my DVD's when I get them...my kids are always scratching or losing my stuff!
That's basically my same situation, Kirk. I can't even begin to tell how much space is tied up with photos and .png files and half finished and duplicate projects. If I just threw away half the stuff, I'd be in good shape. That'd take time, though. :)

McSmokey
03-25-2010, 09:39 AM
Currently have 500GB internal 500GB external and building a 4TB NAS to work with my Desktop and my Media Center

cricky101
03-25-2010, 09:44 AM
200gb or so in my laptop and a 1TB external I use for backups and some storage.

jkim05
03-25-2010, 10:23 AM
Currently 1.2TB in my desktop, but planning to change it. I have space for 2 more drives in there so I would like to stick in two 10k RPM drives to run my OS and apps and up my current drives to 1TB each, but truth be told it's all overkill for me. I should be fine for what I do for at least the next couple years because I use an external SATA drive dock as additional storage.

lightning9191
03-25-2010, 10:29 AM
80 gigs.....but with all 3 of my hard drives combined I have 240 gigs.

Mugen910
03-25-2010, 10:37 AM
my stuff:
1x 1.5 external
3x 160gig external
1x 200gb internal

then my brother and I also have another 3TB in the house.

It's amazing how fast HD movie and HD videos can fill up your storage.

CasaDooley
03-25-2010, 12:14 PM
1 TB on the desktop and a 320 GB external for back-up.

J0eybb
03-25-2010, 12:17 PM
2TB here

shooter21489
03-25-2010, 12:24 PM
I'm only at 1 TB right now, but that's for my backup tower. My main computer is my lappy, only 150 gig, mostly music... and world of warcraft.... Planning on getting me a mac this summer.

Resipsa
03-25-2010, 12:59 PM
I just swapped out a couple 300gb hdd's with a couple 1.5tb platters in my main rig. There's two more 200gb platters and another pair of 300gb platters in that machine for a total of 4tb now. I think that should do for awhile.
I did it because, as ridiculous as it sounds, 1.6tb was never enough.
I use the second drives of the same position as backups, in case one of my drives flakes.
The reason I mention this is that I have the same problem with my computer as my cigars. Never enough space.
How many gigs in your rig?

I have 4.something TB but it is setup in raid so I only really have 2TB of storage...I need more. Doing photography eats up storage...plus I rip a copy of all my DVD's when I get them...my kids are always scratching or losing my stuff!

2TB's, but I'm not mirroring the drives so that's pure storage space. I know, I'll be sorry if something fails, but I still have a burned hard copy of the movies, just start all over again.

I've got a wireless network set up to stream music and movies throughout the house, so I rip full ISO's of all my movies onto the network, and all of my music is on there as well. Then I create a main movie for either transfer or streaming to my iphone.

At 6-7 GB per ISO a TB doesn't get you very far. If I ever get a blu ray drive for the computer and start ripping blu rays on to the network I'm going to need a lot more space, :tf:r

shilala
03-25-2010, 01:44 PM
2TB's, but I'm not mirroring the drives so that's pure storage space. I know, I'll be sorry if something fails, but I still have a burned hard copy of the movies, just start all over again.

I've got a wireless network set up to stream music and movies throughout the house, so I rip full ISO's of all my movies onto the network, and all of my music is on there as well. Then I create a main movie for either transfer or streaming to my iphone.

At 6-7 GB per ISO a TB doesn't get you very far. If I ever get a blu ray drive for the computer and start ripping blu rays on to the network I'm going to need a lot more space, :tf:r
I'm already imagining another pair of 1.5tb platters, Vic.
Today I set up started moving files so I can stream orb to my xbox and iphones and dvd players properly.
I should really have my head examined.

mithrilG60
03-25-2010, 02:01 PM
Desktop: 1TB
File Server*: 2 * 500GB drives in Raid 1 mirror
Media Server: 2 * 1.5TBd drives + 2 * 1TB drives combined via LVM to present as a single 5TB lun
---------------
total: 6TB of functional storage

I also have a pair of 500GB external drives that I use for backing up all the machines on my home network as well as the important file shares (ie. not the media server). I store one of the externals in my desk at work and rotate them every 2 weeks to maintain offsite backups in case of a disaster or total theft at my house.

Bluray rips and HD tv shows eat amazing amount of storage space even when they are compressed down as MKV's. 2TB drives are really dropping in price now so I expect I'll probably pick up 4 (8TB total) at some point this year. 2 of the those drives will replace the pair of 1 TB drives in the media server and the other 2 will simply to be added to the media server's LMV lun increasing it's size to 11TB. The pair of 1TB drives coming out of the media server will then replace the mirrored 500GB drives in the file server.

Drive space is a never ending battle made possible by the ever falling cost of storage......

systm
03-25-2010, 02:06 PM
Currently have 500GB internal 500GB external and building a 4TB NAS to work with my Desktop and my Media Center

You Should check out freeNas its a great server system, and very easy to set up.
Only about 750GBs across all machines, but I need to get a 1TB to start backing up videos to my server/mpd box.

mithrilG60
03-25-2010, 02:08 PM
At 6-7 GB per ISO a TB doesn't get you very far. If I ever get a blu ray drive for the computer and start ripping blu rays on to the network I'm going to need a lot more space, :tf:r

Look into DVDShrink for your DVD collection and strip out all the menu's, extra features etc. and you should be able to get them down to about 4GB per iso. For bluray it makes much more sense to rip to MKV and either get a set-top box like a Popcorn Hour or a media PC to play them. A standard 1080p movie ripped to MKV ranges from is about 9GB to 12GB. Raw bluray rips are in the 45GB range :(

You Should check out freeNas its a great server system, and very easy to set up.
Only about 750GBs across all machines, but I need to get a 1TB to start backing up videos to my server/mpd box.

The major downfall with freeNas is it's lack of expandability. Once you create an array you can't expand it or add additional drives to it without loosing all your data.

Jason
03-25-2010, 02:51 PM
2.5tb but it's across 6 devices, storage is cheap and I save everything

jledou
03-25-2010, 02:55 PM
250 GB plus and external 320 GB. I am actually needing to grab a new 1tb to slap into the desktop but as soon as I do I know it will be full. At least this way I am forced to delete things.

The Poet
03-25-2010, 03:32 PM
How many gigs? Just this one :fu2



Or does that count as two?

GTCanuk
03-25-2010, 03:55 PM
1 TB here plus a couple of externals 320 G and a 250

KenS
03-25-2010, 04:24 PM
500 GB Internal
48GB ExpressCard SSD
2TB External FW800
2 x 500GB External USB 2.0
Plus a Sharkoon QuickPort Combo for quick connecting various internal drives I have hanging around.

Overall, 4+ TB.

Lots o' backups!!

shilala
03-25-2010, 06:49 PM
I've managed to get all my stuff moved and two of three hdd's backed up.
Now I can defrag my boot and see if things snap along a bit better. Then I'm gonna start hogging them full of crap I don't need, so I can stream stuff all over that I'll never watch. It'll be incredibly cool for about five minutes though. :tu

Brilliant
03-25-2010, 07:02 PM
I have a whole house server that backs up three computers, so you are not alone.

RGD.
03-25-2010, 10:35 PM
Scott - apparently we have a bunch of amateurs here :D

This box has 4.7 tb at the moment. But that can change at any time as I have a Blac X Duet that I can hot swap any of the 3.5 tb worth of drives sitting here on my desk.

The box right next to this one (used as a server) has 3.5 tb currently that I will be adding another 1.5 or 2 tb drive to shortly (have 4 320gig drives that are full of MP3's that need to be combined on one drive).

:ss


Ron

shilala
03-26-2010, 07:37 AM
Scott - apparently we have a bunch of amateurs here :D

This box has 4.7 tb at the moment. But that can change at any time as I have a Blac X Duet that I can hot swap any of the 3.5 tb worth of drives sitting here on my desk.

The box right next to this one (used as a server) has 3.5 tb currently that I will be adding another 1.5 or 2 tb drive to shortly (have 4 320gig drives that are full of MP3's that need to be combined on one drive).

:ss


Ron
You're kickin my butt, Ron. I only have 120gb of mp3's and flac. I'm gonna load up, though. :D

Cyclone
04-08-2010, 12:55 PM
Desktop: 1TB
File Server*: 2 * 500GB drives in Raid 1 mirror
Media Server: 2 * 1.5TBd drives + 2 * 1TB drives combined via LVM to present as a single 5TB lun
---------------
total: 6TB of functional storage

2 of the those drives will replace the pair of 1 TB drives in the media server and the other 2 will simply to be added to the media server's LMV lun increasing it's size to 11TB. The pair of 1TB drives coming out of the media server will then replace the mirrored 500GB drives in the file server.

Drive space is a never ending battle made possible by the ever falling cost of storage......

Hey Geoff,

What are you using for your media server?

Save me a trip to Google: what is LMV? :D

kenstogie
04-08-2010, 01:07 PM
1TB

GKitty
04-08-2010, 01:50 PM
When Target had 1TB external drives on the cheap on Black Friday, I thought to myself "I'm never going to need that much space" and "Who needs that kind of storage space?!?!"

Guess I know who now.

I'm at 150GB and only have about 1/3 of it full of music. I'm a happy girl.

shilala
04-08-2010, 02:00 PM
I haven't had any issues whatsoever and the new platters work really well.
I was able to get tons of crap off of my boot drive, and that really helped.
I still have to set up Acronis cause I keep forgetting. Every time it gives me an error, I dismiss it cause I'm too busy. I need to get it done before I have a massive wreck. I just need to set it to do incrementals cause I did all the manual backups already. :tu

JE3146
04-08-2010, 02:38 PM
1x250GB Windows Drive
1x250GB Cache drive (downloads, disposable files)
2x1TB WD RE3 Enterprise drives in RAID 1
1x320GB External backup in a fire safe

1.5 TB's roughly when you eliminate redundancy.

mithrilG60
04-08-2010, 03:02 PM
Hey Geoff,

What are you using for your media server?

Save me a trip to Google: what is LMV? :D

Hey Rudy,

My media server is actually an old HP desktop that would have been TRP'ed and thrown in the garbage put in a new case with a new power supply ;) I added some drives, loaded Debian 5 (ie. lenny) onto it, installed nfs/samba/lvm, made a big lun, configured sharing and called it a day. I use a Popcorn Hour A-100, which is Linux or FreeBSD based, to stream the video over a wireless-N bridge to my theatre setup so I don't need anything particularly fancy in terms of server software. I've also heard that Windows Home Server (based off W2K3 Standard) works very well for aggregating drives into large storage volumes, plus it'll manage automated backups for up to 10 workstations including wake-on-lan so that might be worth looking at too.

LVM stands for Logical Volume Manager, it's basically JBOD at the software level in instead of in the BIOS or on an onboard sata raid controller. Obviously no redundancy or parity, but for saved video I don't really care..... family video is stored on the fileserver, the media server is just for TV and movies. LVM is amazingly easy to setup, I can fire you some HOWTO's if you want. I don't even bother making backups of the server's OS itself (just the NFS and Samba conf files) since it's just a vanilla install of Debian with a couple packages added. The Lenny netinst disc will even detect existing LVM instances during a fresh install and auto-mount them for you so recovery is a snap.

thebayratt
04-08-2010, 03:09 PM
Im old school with a 1998 Compaq 5000 Series.
900MHZ Pentium 2 AMD Athlon
Windows ME (simple and less crashing)
40Gig internal hard drive (my cell phone has almost as much memory)
but
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.
So I'm pretty content with it for now.

My Fiance has a laptop and had to out-do me and she got a 1-Terabyte external on hers. But her laptop is way newer than mine, but mine can run circles around hers as far a speed is concerned.

colinb913
04-08-2010, 06:34 PM
I have...

1 tb external
1 500 gb external
1 250 gb external

2 500 gb internals on my rig

1 250 gb internal on my dads rig

60 gb on my macbook

and on my self made server I have another 2.5 TB so in total:

5.5 TB + 60 GB.. I dont think I will ever have to buy any more space.

markem
04-08-2010, 06:46 PM
lightweights.

I have over 7TB of level 5 raid. That's just the backup server.


top that.

JE3146
04-08-2010, 06:56 PM
I have...

1 tb external
1 500 gb external
1 250 gb external

2 500 gb internals on my rig

1 250 gb internal on my dads rig

60 gb on my macbook

and on my self made server I have another 2.5 TB so in total:

5.5 TB + 60 GB.. I dont think I will ever have to buy any more space.

Sounds like Bill Gate's take on RAM in 1981

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates

When you factor in Moore's Law and relate it to hardware storage devices, you'll see how incredibly silly it sounds to think that ~5TB will be enough to suffice indefinitely ;)

JE3146
04-08-2010, 06:59 PM
lightweights.

I have over 7TB of level 5 raid. That's just the backup server.


top that.

pshh... showoff..

Lord knows I'd have at least that if the wife didn't already think I was nuts for having a simple redundant RAID 1TB setup :D

BroncoHorvath
04-08-2010, 07:05 PM
2 TB on the pc and 500GB on the laptop....enough to last me a lifetime....

shilala
04-08-2010, 07:14 PM
Ultimately I'd like to build a battery of servers with all my video content and music on them so I can stream everything anywhere I want. That'll take 100 gb or so jest to get started.
My next upgrade will only get me to about 7tb, but I'm ready for a platform upgrade soon. I'm going to have to start gathering cases and motherboards soon. :)

JE3146
04-08-2010, 07:18 PM
Ultimately I'd like to build a battery of servers with all my video content and music on them so I can stream everything anywhere I want. That'll take 100 gb or so jest to get started.
My next upgrade will only get me to about 7tb, but I'm ready for a platform upgrade soon. I'm going to have to start gathering cases and motherboards soon. :)

;)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219034

Just go with a rack and get it over with :D

16 drive bays should provide you with enough physical drive space.

taltos
04-09-2010, 11:01 AM
Currently 350 gb in my HP laptop, 285 in my wife's Acer laptop and 4 external 500gb Seagate external drives, 2 still in the box. I remember when my first HD was 40mb and it would have cost more to replace it than all of my current storage.

Totemic
04-11-2010, 03:33 PM
Sounds like Bill Gate's take on RAM in 1981

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates
Except Bill Gates never said that.
I'm not sure who originally said this nor why it's attributed to Gates, but he's gone on to say:

"I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time."

Anyways, once you start dealing with HD videos, TB is almost quaint in terms of storage space. I currently have about 6TB of disk space on my media center PC and it's running low now (down to about 12% free space). Even storing everything in just 720p (at 6Mbps using AVC/VC1), it's around 2.2GB per 1 hour show. Flip that to 1080p at 12Mbps, and it's 4.4 to 4.5GB per hour (and 12Mbps for 1080p is kind of on the low side--most of the time I'm seeing around 15 to 18Mbps).

I'm waiting for the big UEFI push before jumping onto the >2TB harddrives for my systems. I should be able to drop around 12TB into each of my file servers at that point.

JE3146
04-11-2010, 10:25 PM
Except Bill Gates never said that.
I'm not sure who originally said this nor why it's attributed to Gates, but he's gone on to say:

"I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time."




You can tell yourself that all you want ;)

LasciviousXXX
04-11-2010, 11:04 PM
lightweights.

I have over 7TB of level 5 raid. That's just the backup server.


top that.


Mark knows stuff! :tu

King James
04-11-2010, 11:17 PM
I got over 1TB total

Totemic
04-12-2010, 10:20 AM
You can tell yourself that all you want ;)

I don't have to.
My Google-fu is strong and doing a quick search shows it's correct.

JE3146
04-12-2010, 10:41 AM
I don't have to.
My Google-fu is strong and doing a quick search shows it's correct.

I'll put it to you this way. There's nothing out there credible that says he did say it, and nothing out there credible that says he didn't (other than him saying he didn't like 10+ years later). Leave it up to your imagination. Personally I'd like to think the richest man in the world is human and makes mistakes like the rest of us, even moronic ones.

shilala
04-12-2010, 12:41 PM
I'll put it to you this way. There's nothing out there credible that says he did say it, and nothing out there credible that says he didn't (other than him saying he didn't like 10+ years later). Leave it up to your imagination. Personally I'd like to think the richest man in the world is human and makes mistakes like the rest of us, even moronic ones.
Hard to believe he's the richest man in the world, isn't it?
He doesn't seem to even much care, and he gives tons away. Pretty good dude, I think. :tu

JE3146
04-12-2010, 12:46 PM
Hard to believe he's the richest man in the world, isn't it?
He doesn't seem to even much care, and he gives tons away. Pretty good dude, I think. :tu

I agree. When I meant human, I meant from an intelligence point of view, not judging his character ;)

shilala
04-12-2010, 01:10 PM
I agree. When I meant human, I meant from an intelligence point of view, not judging his character ;)
I wasn't ragging you at all, Jordan. I made that comment cause I sensed you were like minded about him.
On that quote...
It's not the first time I've heard it, but when I heard it last he was supposedly talking about ram. I don't buy it, because it really doesn't make sense, especially since he's always had a vision that everyone's entire life, home, house and car would be networked. Gotta store all that crap somewhere, and he's always been waiting for hardware to catch up with his vision.
I'm not saying he didn't say it, but if I was a betting man, I'd put my five bucks on "didn't" cause it doesn't make sense. :)