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Darrell
03-11-2010, 06:11 PM
The premier of The Pacific (a 10 part mini series) is this Sunday on HBO at 9 PM.

Similar to Band of Brothers, this series follows the USMC's involvement in the Pacific Theater, rather than the U.S. Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pacific_%28miniseries%29

This is produced by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg.

Who is excited? I know I am.

jaydub13
03-11-2010, 06:32 PM
I can't wait.... Band of Brothers was amazing, and this cannot be anything less.

Powers
03-11-2010, 06:35 PM
Love Band of Brothers, have the collection on DVD, watched it like 3 times. Don't have HBO but will by the box collection of The Pacific the day it comes out.

Anything that gets Americans excited about their history is good in my book

:tu

SteveA
03-11-2010, 06:36 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic. Band of Brothers was awesome and it's hard for me to imagine another series coming close. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.

ucla695
03-11-2010, 08:25 PM
I'm excited!! If it's anything like BoB, it'll be great! :banger

hotreds
03-12-2010, 07:32 AM
Makes me wish I had HBO. Will hafta wait for DVD. Hanks has been saying stoopid things lately, hopefully the series isn't tarnished by his mind set!

Powers
03-12-2010, 08:16 AM
This is a great video of Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg hosting an event at the World War II Memorial in DC with Pacific veterans in attendance:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/03/11/VI2010031103401.html?hpid=artslot

:usa

yourchoice
03-12-2010, 08:43 AM
I am stoked! I imagine it being a Speilberg/Hanks production that it will live up to expectations.

Over the last month I've watched BoB again in anticipation of this release. :usa

Jack Straw
03-12-2010, 08:54 AM
Very cool, if only I had HBO. I really enjoyed Band of Brothers and Generation Kill.

kelmac07
03-12-2010, 09:10 AM
While I wasn't a fan of the Band of Brothers...this looks interesting.

Darrell
03-12-2010, 10:31 AM
While I wasn't a fan of the Band of Brothers...this looks interesting.

Why not? Did they not accurately depict what you guys were doing over there? You should have consulted for them, being you had first hand experience. :D

ucla695
03-14-2010, 08:11 PM
I liked it. Kinda slow at the beginning, but built up to some good action. Looks like it'll be a great series.

0002S
03-14-2010, 08:43 PM
After watching this, I get a feeling this one is going to not be as good ad Band of Brothers.

Aron
03-14-2010, 08:46 PM
After watching this, I get a feeling this one is going to not be as good ad Band of Brothers.

While that is highly possible, as Band of Brothers was based on Stephen Ambrose, I must say The Pacific looks like it could turn out to be something really special.

M1903A1
03-14-2010, 09:17 PM
While that is highly possible, as Band of Brothers was based on Stephen Ambrose, I must say The Pacific looks like it could turn out to be something really special.

Stephen Ambrose had started on a book on the Pacific war before he died. I recall reading that several of his students/assistants had decided to continue the project...I thought that The Pacific was at least in part based on it. (I realize it is primarily based on two classic books written by Pacific veterans.)

The book that I think covers the (entire) Pacific war the best is "Eagle Against The Sun: The American War With Japan" by Ronald Spector.

Aron
03-15-2010, 08:44 AM
Mr. Springfield Rifle

I've got Spector sitting on my shelf at home. I haven't gotten the chance to read it yet, but it is definitely on my list to read eventually.

What did you think of the first episode of the series?

tobii3
03-15-2010, 09:24 AM
Why not? Did they not accurately depict what you guys were doing over there? You should have consulted for them, being you had first hand experience. :D

I'm still LMAO at this comment....:r:r:r

yourchoice
03-15-2010, 09:53 AM
After watching this, I get a feeling this one is going to not be as good ad Band of Brothers.

At first, after one episode, I thought the same thing. But I remembered BoB's first episode, while good, wasn't where the mini-series shined. I'm still holding out hope The Pacific will be nearly as moving as BoB was.

taltos
03-16-2010, 03:34 AM
Just a note for those without HBO, if you have Comcast internet service, you should be able to link to and watch the first episode off of the Comcast home page. In addition if you go to HBO's web site and register, you can watch the first episode there. No idea if the HBO site is free. Hope that this helps.

ProBe
03-16-2010, 06:04 AM
Just a note for those without HBO, if you have Comcast internet service, you should be able to link to and watch the first episode off of the Comcast home page. In addition if you go to HBO's web site and register, you can watch the first episode there. No idea if the HBO site is free. Hope that this helps.

Thanks for the heads up.

MortonMilo
03-16-2010, 06:47 AM
If it's half as good as Band of Brothers, I'll be hooked.

Jack
03-16-2010, 07:25 AM
I watched the first episode yesterday on the HBO site, I loved it. Being someone who is training to be a Marine Corps Officer (PLC program), I love the Marine corps history and legends like Chesty Puller. With the Pacific, I don't think you should compare them, but rather take the for what they are. You don't compare Band of Brothers with Generation Kill, both were great (having read One Bullet Away and Generation kill), but not the same at all. Regardless, this is my opinion and from what I have seen, it looks to be an amazing show.

AD720
03-16-2010, 07:27 AM
I watched the first episode yesterday on the HBO site, I loved it. Being someone who is training to be a Marine Corps Officer (PLC program), I love the Marine corps history and legends like Chesty Puller. With the Pacific, I don't think you should compare them, but rather take the for what they are. You don't compare Band of Brothers with Generation Kill, both were great (having read One Bullet Away and Generation kill), but not the same at all. Regardless, this is my opinion and from what I have seen, it looks to be an amazing show.

:tpd: Was about to type the same thing. After the first episode I think that Pacific can stand on it's own. I'm sure the series will be excellent.

taltos
03-16-2010, 12:29 PM
Totally different of combat and a totally different type of combat force. This was a war designed for the mission of the Marine Corps just as Europe was better designed for the Army and Army Air Corps. All performed well and performed as trained. S/F Paul:tu

VirtualSmitty
03-16-2010, 01:18 PM
I enjoyed it. It started a little slow, but so did BoB. I'm def gonna watch it to the finish, the Pacific theater has always interested me more than the war in europe did.

OLS
03-18-2010, 10:10 AM
Love Band of Brothers, have the collection on DVD, watched it like 3 times. Don't have HBO but will by the box collection of The Pacific the day it comes out.
:tu
This is me. I have at least 12 complete view-throughs of BoB.
Took it to my Sister's for Christmas and they scratched disc 1.
Left it there and bought my another precious.
It is still the only thing I can watch anyday, anytime, no matter what.
I do not have cable of anykind, so I will avoid this like the plague and orgy it out
when the DVD set releases. I eat this kind of drama for lunch and would stick it in my
arm if I could fit it into a needle. Nothing gives me more pleasure cinematically than this
kind of presentation, and this type of production quality, this kind of lovingly produced
historic drama. BoB set a very high bar, though. Was David Schwimmer ever better or
could he ever be? Of course, in contrast, Is Jimmy Fallon the world's worst whatever he is?

OLS
03-18-2010, 10:22 AM
At first, after one episode, I thought the same thing. But I remembered BoB's first episode, while good, wasn't where the mini-series shined. I'm still holding out hope The Pacific will be nearly as moving as BoB was.
I am kind of the opposite, I think BoB WITHOUT Episode 1 would have been very.....
I can't even come up with the concept. It would still have been a war picture of sheer
intensity, but I thought the Toccoa stuff was priceless, and very well done. It also made the
concept come together in a way that cemented our view of the characters as a true
dysfuntional family that was ironically, super-functional. LOL.

I can't imagine watching live on HBO for the first time though, and having to wait a week or more
for "Day of Days" to actually run. They way it opens with "no jump tonight" then goes to Toccoa,
and you see that whole show and end up watching the end as Winters rides into history in the
jump door of the C-41, if I didn't have the DVD remote, I would have $hit!

I heard "they said" Ep 1 was a drag with all the hometown stuff before the men got to fighting,
but who knows. I am fine with it if the character development goes on to mean something later on. But as marked as these men were forever by it, I do loves da fightin', and want to see it now.

JE3146
03-18-2010, 07:37 PM
I am kind of the opposite, I think BoB WITHOUT Episode 1 would have been very.....
I can't even come up with the concept. It would still have been a war picture of sheer
intensity, but I thought the Toccoa stuff was priceless, and very well done. It also made the
concept come together in a way that cemented our view of the characters as a true
dysfuntional family that was ironically, super-functional. LOL.

I can't imagine watching live on HBO for the first time though, and having to wait a week or more
for "Day of Days" to actually run. They way it opens with "no jump tonight" then goes to Toccoa,
and you see that whole show and end up watching the end as Winters rides into history in the
jump door of the C-41, if I didn't have the DVD remote, I would have $hit!

I heard "they said" Ep 1 was a drag with all the hometown stuff before the men got to fighting,
but who knows. I am fine with it if the character development goes on to mean something later on. But as marked as these men were forever by it, I do loves da fightin', and want to see it now.

Glad I'm not the only one that feels this. IMO Episode 1 MADE Band of Brothers as good as it was.

forgop
03-18-2010, 09:07 PM
Band of Brothers episode 1 > The Pacific episode 1

Just watched it and was disappointed. Maybe it's because I was expecting something at the level BoB finished with.

mithrilG60
03-18-2010, 09:22 PM
I heard "they said" Ep 1 was a drag with all the hometown stuff before the men got to fighting, but who knows. I am fine with it if the character development goes on to mean something later on. But as marked as these men were forever by it, I do loves da fightin', and want to see it now.

This series is likely to be quite different since it's primarily based on the memoirs of 2 men instead of the combined recollections compiled by a 3rd party so the point of view is likely to be much narrower and intense in a personal sense than BoB was. As much as I loved BoB, Stephen Ambrose was known more for being a populist story telling historian than a classical historian and that certainly came across in the series.

All in all I've been looking foward to this series since mid last year when it was announced and thought the first episode was very well done. It's going to be quite interesting since the PTO doesn't get nearly the same amount of press up here in Canada as the ETO since we were really only significantly involved in the initial portion of that war and had little to do with the remainder after Hong Kong fell other than as PoW's.

Besides, my parents-in-law live in Vanuatu (called the New Hebrides at the time) which as all the military historian's here know was the proverbial line in the sand drawn by the Navy and Marines as well as the primary staging point for the Battle of the Coral Sea and a major base afterwards. The airstrip built for the B-25's is still in active use as Port Vila's international airport, Bauerfield, named after Lt. Col. Harold W Bauer who won the Medal of Honor at Guadalcanal. Been through that airport several times so the history's interesting on a personal level as well.

OLS
03-19-2010, 08:25 AM
All in all I've been looking foward to this series since mid last year when it was announced.Haha, not to get into a contest, but I have been waiting for this for 5 years, back to when it was just a whisper of a possibility and Spielberg was scouting locations. That was the only shred of a hope my friend and I had about this possibility. What happened with me was my friend and co-worker brought his set in to work one day, and this was the first I had ever HEARD of BoB. I took em home for the weekend and was HOOKED. I watched them through 2wice over the weekend. I was like an addict wanting more. A few months later came this rumour about a similar series for the Pacific, cause S.S. was MOST interested in DOING something with the Pacific Theater to start with, but the BoB deal manifested first. As they say in boring Oscar speeches, "this has been a burning dream of mine for a long time", lol. It WILL be murder waiting for the series to wrap up ad the Boxrd set to be available. That's the first I will watch.

Nice job with the OLYMPICS, by the way!

mithrilG60
03-19-2010, 09:25 AM
Haha, not to get into a contest, but I have been waiting for this for 5 years, back to when it was just a whisper of a possibility and Spielberg was scouting locations. That was the only shred of a hope my friend and I had about this possibility. What happened with me was my friend and co-worker brought his set in to work one day, and this was the first I had ever HEARD of BoB. I took em home for the weekend and was HOOKED. I watched them through 2wice over the weekend. I was like an addict wanting more. A few months later came this rumour about a similar series for the Pacific, cause S.S. was MOST interested in DOING something with the Pacific Theater to start with, but the BoB deal manifested first. As they say in boring Oscar speeches, "this has been a burning dream of mine for a long time", lol.

No contest here, the first I heard of the series was last summer/fall when they posted the first trailer online. I also sorta stumbled across Band of Brothers. I was channel surfing on night and stumbled across Day of Days and thought "Cool, Saving Private Ryan's on the telly. Wait a minute, that's not Saving Private Ryan..... what the hell is this?!?!?". Loved it then, bought the DVD set when it was released and then the Bluray last fall.

Not too surprised that the Pacific was what SS really wanted to film. He'd already done a huge piece on the ETO with Saving Private Ryan and it's been a long time since a PTO based movie or series has been attempted.

You've watched the PBS documentary Ken Burn's The War I assume? If not, you need to do yourself a favour and grab that from your local video store or library. Actually grab any Ken Burn's work as they're all amazing, but the The War ties in nicely to this whole series, especially since his primary references for the Pacific campaign are Sledge and Leckie's diary biography's.

It WILL be murder waiting for the series to wrap up ad the Boxrd set to be available. That's the first I will watch.

Why not get a buddy to PVR the series for you and then do a Pacific marathon herf?

Nice job with the OLYMPICS, by the way!

Thanks! I like to pretend it was all me but I guess I have to give a small amount of the credit to VANOC and the cities of Vancouver and Whistler :r

It's kind of funny, almost everyone I know, myself included, was so sick and tired of hearing the word "Olympics" (plus all the protesters and nay-sayers whinging on about teh cost and social housing and health care and anything else they could complain about) that a couple days before the Games we were all just wanting it done and over. Then it turned out to be the most fun 2 weeks I think I've ever had, truely an amazing amazing experience.

And the street party after the men's gold medal hockey game...... UNREAL!!! I think the only way you could possibly top that would be if you were in somewhere like London, Paris, Rome or San Paolo if their national soccer teams won a World Cup at home. Or in Auckland when the All Blacks win the real World Cup next year ;)

OLS
03-19-2010, 12:22 PM
I think Spielberg's Dad was also in the PTO, which might have made him a bit biased. I am not sure on that one. I am just glad it got here finally.

As far as "the War" I was not all that impressed. It was a big thing to get done, but it might
be a lot closer to "the Pacific" than we yet know. All these references back to the same 4 towns,
or in this case, two people. It all remains to be seen. I WATCHED The War, but did not come away
overly impressed. It was a unique way to view a giant war, but for me, not the best way. Or even
what I thought the "burns way" would be.

NO I can wait until it is released. To let you know how long, one night I am watching the Emmys WAY back when, and DEADWOOD was winning all these awards. I said ONE DAY I am going to pick that set up. Finally got to it yesterday. All this talk of war and blood got me lusting after some new gore. I heard you all talking about Generation Kill, so I picked that up at Best Buy, which is a misnomer. Target is Best Buy. Best Buy is 20 dollars more on everything, just like a freaking tax. But Deadwood was 59 bucks a season. And there, off in a corner of the rack, marked down 30 bucks to 119 was The Complete Deadwood box. So I walked out of BB with bruised nuts to say the least. But at least I have a war weekend ahead.

The OLYs. Oly fatigue or not, it was an event you can all be proud of nationally. How you conquered the weather and still made it happen was monumental. How you allowed Catherine O'Hara to talk about Peeing one's name in the snow in the Closing Ceremonies was amazing. Alot of beer swilling talk. And isn't Bill Shatner dead? I heard he was upset that they wouldn't let him play Captain Kirk in the new Star Trek. (no I didn't)

JE3146
03-19-2010, 12:51 PM
Not too surprised that the Pacific was what SS really wanted to film. He'd already done a huge piece on the ETO with Saving Private Ryan and it's been a long time since a PTO based movie or series has been attempted.


You should checkout Letters from Iwo Jima. Shot from the Japanese perspective though, but I found it to be an amazing movie.

mithrilG60
03-19-2010, 12:55 PM
I found The War to be a very interesting take on the WWII simply because it didn't deal with the major strategy's and events from a top level perspective like most historical documentaries. To see it presented from a common soldier's point of view was very refreshing and the point of focusing on just 4 towns really drove home the concept that every town was intimately involved in every major campaign in all theatres in one way or another. Obviously The War was the American perspective but it also reflects the way that many of the other countries who were directly involved but never actually invaded or attacked in a sustained manner would have experienced it.

Military history tends to have a very top down perspective so seeing a major documentary from another angle is a very value tool towards understanding the conflict as a whole.

mithrilG60
03-19-2010, 12:57 PM
You should checkout Letters from Iwo Jima. Shot from the Japanese perspective though, but I found it to be an amazing movie.

I've seen both Letters from Iwo Jima and Flags of Our Fathers, both were excellent films.

mithrilG60
03-19-2010, 12:57 PM
The OLYs. Oly fatigue or not, it was an event you can all be proud of nationally. How you conquered the weather and still made it happen was monumental. How you allowed Catherine O'Hara to talk about Peeing one's name in the snow in the Closing Ceremonies was amazing. Alot of beer swilling talk. And isn't Bill Shatner dead? I heard he was upset that they wouldn't let him play Captain Kirk in the new Star Trek. (no I didn't)

The Oly fatigue was really more of a pre-hangover and I'm sure most host cities experience the same thing. The media spends so much time hyping the coming event that by the time it finally draws near you're a bit sick of hearing about it. Once it's on it all changes though, and honestly I've never seen anything like it in my life. Wearing our patriotism on the outside for all to see is a stereotypically un-Canadian thing to do, so seeing such an outburst was frankly unbelievable.

A lot more was made out of the weather issues than really needed to be, and I predict you'll see more of the same with Sochi since their climate is almost identical to ours. There were some challenges with snow up on Cypress, but that really boiled down to a stupid decision about 8 years before (ie. wanting the freestyle events on Cypress so tourism shots of the mountain looking down onto Vancouver would be possible). Anyone that's spent any time at all in Vancouver knows that those conditions are par for the course on the local mountains (Cypress is only 1 of 3 resorts that immediately ring the city) and that about every 3rd years is a total write-off for snow. Because of that they should have always planned to hold all the alpine events up at Whistler IMHO. Would have saved a lot of last minute scrambling and expense. The effort to get the courses setup was amazing, just never should have had to be done. The ironic thing is they were paid for out of the snow clearing budget which had been doubled the year before as in Jan 2009 we got very uncharacteristically heavy snow fall which would have caused a total shutdown of the Olympics if they'd been held a year earlier.

Other than the snow issues what you saw on the TV was really just standard Vancouver "winter". Admittedly a this year was little warmer than average, but only by about 4 degrees C. We're not exactly a winter paradise here on the Left Coast; palm trees grow year round, the nude beach is open and in use every day of the year, a killing frost is an anomaly instead of a yearly event and most places in the US get far more snow than we ever see in the city proper...... we've just trained the snow to (usually) fall where it's useful, in the mountains ;) Just think of us as the California of Canada :D

yourchoice
03-19-2010, 01:08 PM
I am kind of the opposite, I think BoB WITHOUT Episode 1 would have been very.....
I can't even come up with the concept. It would still have been a war picture of sheer
intensity, but I thought the Toccoa stuff was priceless, and very well done. It also made the
concept come together in a way that cemented our view of the characters as a true
dysfuntional family that was ironically, super-functional. LOL.
..

..

..

I heard "they said" Ep 1 was a drag with all the hometown stuff before the men got to fighting,
but who knows. I am fine with it if the character development goes on to mean something later on. But as marked as these men were forever by it, I do loves da fightin', and want to see it now.

I agree BoB Ep. 1 set the stage (built charachter development) and without it the story of BoB wouldn't have been as great as it was. BUT, it wasn't as intense and engrossing as later episodes. Important to the series? No doubt! One of the its best episodes? No way. IMHO

forgop
03-19-2010, 03:36 PM
Saw on Good Morning America this morning to hear them talk about how much of a ratings bomb The Pacific was compared to BoB. Seems to me like it had 1/3 of the viewers BoB had.

JE3146
03-19-2010, 06:38 PM
Saw on Good Morning America this morning to hear them talk about how much of a ratings bomb The Pacific was compared to BoB. Seems to me like it had 1/3 of the viewers BoB had.

HBO is a luxury not many people (want to)/(can) pay for, including myself.

forgop
03-19-2010, 06:51 PM
HBO is a luxury not many people (want to)/(can) pay for, including myself.

Understood, but this was a comparison of previous series shown on HBO. Obviously, it could mean a much higher percentage of people don't have HBO today compared to BoB or other previous shows, but for the most part draws upon the comparison of viewers to what The Pacific received. This wasn't at all an comparison to regular network programming.

mithrilG60
03-19-2010, 07:11 PM
Probably also doesn't take into account that there's a much higher percentage of people who are now downloading some/most/all of their tv, something which was completely unheard of back when BoB was screened.

macpappy
03-20-2010, 06:23 AM
I think comparing The Pacific to BOB is sort of like comparing the ETO to the PTO. Beyond the fact that they were both wars fought during the same basic time period, you can't. The two theaters were fought differently because of the geography and I think because of the emotional issues involved.

I'll explain more later. But the Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor so IMO that made the Pacific more personal to most of the Americans who fought there.

macpappy
03-20-2010, 07:19 AM
To continue...

I've talked to veterans from both theaters and found that while some of the ones I spoke to from the ETO said that they didn't particularly hate the German soldiers (with the exception of the SS) and that they actually started feeling sorry for them near the end. The ones who served in the Pacific never said anything about respecting the Japanese soldiers they fought against. Every one of them hated all of the Japanese.

Now this wasn't a scientific study or anything, just the opinion of some old men I've talked to.

The other difference between the two was the geography. In Europe you had the wide open spaces that made full scale armored combat a possibility. Just look at what Patton accomplished during some of the campaigns he was involved in. And while supplying the front lines in Europe wasn't easy, it wasn't nearly as difficult as it was in the Pacific where the Marines were basically hopping from one island to the another.

Of course all this is my opinion based on speaking to some veterans and reading history books.

My point is that I would expect The Pacific to be a completely different story from BOB.

hotreds
03-20-2010, 05:34 PM
Happened to luck into the 1st episode while spending the night en route back home. Liked it, interesting to recognize some names- this before I looked into Hugh Ambrose's book and read the backstory. Should be something to see EB Sledge's book made into an episode or two.

And, indeed, MacPappy is quite correct; many veterans still have not forgiven the Japanese for the way the fought the war. My God Mother(RIP!) interviewed for the Army returning POWs from the Japanese camps. To her dying day she used profanity to describe the Japanese and what they did to "our boys over there."

I was at an airshow where there was a fellow reenacting as a Japanese soldier. Many of the pilots there were very negative towards him, epecially those flying Corsairs and other PTO planes.

About the only thing that compares to the brutality of the PTO was the Eastern Front in Europe. No dime was given nor expected.

I look forward to ordering The Pacific on Netflix once it's available.

M1903A1
03-20-2010, 11:04 PM
I was at an airshow where there was a fellow reenacting as a Japanese soldier. Many of the pilots there were very negative towards him, epecially those flying Corsairs and other PTO planes.


I used to follow the military reenacting world on the 'net, and ironically Japanese Army reenactors (some of whom would come all the way from Japan for reenactments in the States) were regarded as some of the best reenactors of all.

JE3146
03-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Anyone know when episode 2 will be available to watch on HBO.com?

Eagle53
03-22-2010, 03:33 PM
I really wish they did a training episode like in Band of Brothers especially because it helped character development. Ive been having a hard time keeping track of all the dudes with black hair with torn clothes.

CigarDisciple
03-22-2010, 03:41 PM
Anyone know when episode 2 will be available to watch on HBO.com?

It is already on HBO on demand. :ss

forgop
03-22-2010, 05:24 PM
I thought last episode 2 was better than the first, but I don't think we're seeing the plot development like BoB had though.

OLS
03-23-2010, 08:28 AM
Ive been having a hard time keeping track of all the dudes with black hair with torn clothes.hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.... ...eh

I think the free episode on HBO.com or wherever was the first time your crack is free kinda deal.

VirtualSmitty
03-23-2010, 08:50 AM
I thought last episode 2 was better than the first, but I don't think we're seeing the plot development like BoB had though.

I thought episode 2 was good, but I liked the first one better so far. The second episode just kinda ended, the intro showed it to be a long drawn out fight with near staving GIs, but I really didn't get that from this episode. They looked dirty, ate rice, and one five minute fire fight, but I think they really missed the mark with one.

Mugen910
03-23-2010, 09:19 AM
I thought episode 2 was good, but I liked the first one better so far. The second episode just kinda ended, the intro showed it to be a long drawn out fight with near staving GIs, but I really didn't get that from this episode. They looked dirty, ate rice, and one five minute fire fight, but I think they really missed the mark with one.

I agree...but it was nice to bring some of my Marine Corps knowledge back with the name John Basilone.

yourchoice
03-28-2010, 09:43 PM
Well, with Episode 3 we certainly got some character development. :tu

VirtualSmitty
03-30-2010, 10:30 AM
Well, with Episode 3 we certainly got some character development. :tu

I watched it on demand last night. Pretty good episode, and there were some funny scenes mixed in there too :tu

forgop
03-30-2010, 12:26 PM
Well, with Episode 3 we certainly got some character development. :tu

Gratuitous booby shots don't hurt either. :r:r:r

MortonMilo
03-30-2010, 02:40 PM
Gratuitous booby shots don't hurt either. :r:r:r

They've gotta keep me watching somehow if there isn't any fighting going on!

JE3146
03-30-2010, 06:31 PM
It is already on HBO on demand. :ss

HBO.com allowed you to view the episodes for free after registering.

Seems they didn't get the ratings they wanted, so now they've stopped showing them online :rolleyes: And they've pushed back the release of the DVD/Blu-ray as well.

forgop
04-15-2010, 09:21 AM
I thought the last 2 episodes were a bit better. Are we just dealing with a difference in the fact that Band of Brothers was just a much better book and story as a whole than what The Pacific is taken from?

mithrilG60
04-15-2010, 09:47 AM
I thought the last 2 episodes were a bit better. Are we just dealing with a difference in the fact that Band of Brothers was just a much better book and story as a whole than what The Pacific is taken from?

I think it's multiple things, the primary one being that BoB was based on a single book that had taken many different individual experiences and used them to create a single cohesive storyline with a standardized narration style because it's written by a single author. The Pacific is based on 2 primary works written by very different men with different viewpoints and opinions, and that naturally leads to the story line being more disjointed than BoB. Both those works were also personal memoires written more as exercises in self-catharsis than as the historical essays/analysis which BoB was intended to be before HBO turned it into the mini-series.

Ultimately The Pacific is a very different mini-series that BoB, but that's fitting considering the PTO was a very different war and experience than the ETO.

hscmit
03-08-2011, 07:26 PM
just started watching the series first 2 episodes were good and on 3 now

jonumberone
03-08-2011, 07:33 PM
Don't want to ruin it for you James, But my favorite part was when.................... :sleep: :sleep:

Never made it through!

I assume we won :sh

hscmit
03-08-2011, 07:36 PM
Don't want to ruin it for you James, But my favorite part was when.................... :sleep: :sleep:

Never made it through!

I assume we won :sh

I hear thats how it turns out

hotreds
03-08-2011, 08:02 PM
Picked up several books the series was based on including the companion book to the series. The Series is on my Netflix queue.

hscmit
03-08-2011, 08:19 PM
watching episode 4 now and enjoying the series
it is a lot easier for me to get into shows when I can marathon through them

smokehouse
03-09-2011, 08:53 AM
I thought it was a pretty good series. They hyped it up to be better than Band of Brothers, but I thought Band of Brothers was better.

Stephen
03-09-2011, 09:19 AM
I think it's multiple things, the primary one being that BoB was based on a single book that had taken many different individual experiences and used them to create a single cohesive storyline with a standardized narration style because it's written by a single author. The Pacific is based on 2 primary works written by very different men with different viewpoints and opinions, and that naturally leads to the story line being more disjointed than BoB. Both those works were also personal memoires written more as exercises in self-catharsis than as the historical essays/analysis which BoB was intended to be before HBO turned it into the mini-series.

Ultimately The Pacific is a very different mini-series that BoB, but that's fitting considering the PTO was a very different war and experience than the ETO.
I agree with this. I don't think The Pacific was as good as BoB simply because of the source material. As much as I wanted to enjoy The Pacific, I just found myself not caring for the characters in the way that I did in BoB.