Plume!

[RightAJ]

Found this at my favorite B&M at home... no THAT is some pretty plume :ss

aj

[barbourjay]

if by plume you mean mold then yes, that is a lot of pretty mold.

[SmokinApe]

As an FYI, cigar bands do not plume...

[RightAJ]

if by plume you mean mold then yes, that is a lot of pretty mold.

I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

[md4958]

As an FYI, cigar bands do not plume...

:tpd:

I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

maybe its dust then

[pnoon]

I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

It looks more the the crystalline (almost dust-like) residue from the impure water used in many B&M humidifiers.

It sure doesn't look like plume to me.

[NCRadioMan]

It looks more the the crystalline (almost dust-like) residue from the impure water used in many B&M humidifiers.

It sure doesn't look like plume to me.
:tpd: That's exactly what it is. We had the same problem in the shop I work in for a short time.

[SmokinApe]

I am all ears for a review tho...

[Texan in Mexico]

You're a smart man...

It looks more the the crystalline (almost dust-like) residue from the impure water used in many B&M humidifiers.

It sure doesn't look like plume to me.
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[RightAJ]

:tpd: That's exactly what it is. We had the same problem in the shop I work in for a short time.

I'm still not completely convinced... Either way I bought something else instead (shrug)

aj

[Darrell]

Tell him to stop using tap water in his humidifiers.

[md4958]

I'm still not completely convinced... Either way I bought something else instead (shrug)

aj

You were convinced it WAS plume, yet you have no experience with it.

Now you have several experienced members telling you its not, but thats not enough to change your mind.

[SmokinApe]

Maybe better pictures would help settle the matter...

[SilverFox]

You were convinced it WAS plume, yet you have no experience with it.

Now you have several experienced members telling you its not, but thats not enough to change your mind.

:tpd:

By the way it isn't plume.

I don't care how the guy keeps his humi.

Bands don't plume, here is the one and only time I was relatively sure I had it and that is after several thousand cigars.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg158/silverfox67/plume/IMG_12262.jpg?t=1265646536

Even then I was not 100% convinced..............smoked great though

[RightAJ]

You were convinced it WAS plume, yet you have no experience with it.

Now you have several experienced members telling you its not, but thats not enough to change your mind.

I have seen plume before, though not to this extent. The box is pretty old so I was assuming that it was (knowing that the owner takes meticulous care of his stock and uses distilled water).

Not trying to argue here...

aj

[SmokinApe]

:tpd:


Bands don't plume

Maybe it is an optical conclusion... i.e. it was concluded that is was plume...

[GKitty]

As an FYI, cigar bands do not plume...

This has always been one of the things I look at when the question of plume arises. There's a fine even coat over the whole stick including the band, which leads me to believe the source of whatever crystals are on it came from somewhere other than the wrapper.

I appreciate the picture and the input from the FOGs. Next time I think about tap water vs distilled water, I'll remember these pictures.

[md4958]

I knew someone would say that... not mold though. These things are at least 5 years old and it is a thin layer of crystals, not spotty mold. The owner is very particular about how he keeps his humi

aj

I'm still not completely convinced... Either way I bought something else instead (shrug)

aj

I have seen plume before, though not to this extent. The box is pretty old so I was assuming that it was (knowing that the owner takes meticulous care of his stock and uses distilled water).

Not trying to argue here...

aj

Sounds like you are actually.

[SmokinApe]

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[hotreds]

No! Sorry- the give away is, as was mentioned, the bands. They won't have plume on them! It does actually look more like dust or water impurities. It would be interesting to take a magnifying glass to that ceegar to see the white stuff up close. But, I'm afraid I'd hafta agree with those that say it isn't plume. Also don't know if five years is long enough for plume to develop. It's a veeeeery sloooow process.

[poker]

Looking at the picture provided, its not plume. Plume is a naturally occuring by-product of long-term cigar aging. As the cigar's naturally present oils are exuded through the wrapper and dry forming crystals. There is no way it can form on the paper cigar band.

[GKitty]

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:r Drama king!

And Moe's fighting name is "The Big Cannoli". Get it right. :D

[vicvitola]

:r Drama king!

And Moe's fighting name is "The Big Cannoli". Get it right. :D

I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin

[pnoon]

I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin
:r
Now that is funny!

[SmokinApe]

I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin

You're playing with fire son...

[hotreds]

Actually, it's "Mortadella Moe."

[TripleF]

And just when I thought I knew the difference between mold and plume.....


Now I clearly have no clue.

Oh btw, NO I'm not being a wise A$$.......

[SmokinApe]

I thought it was "Marinara Moe"

[RevSmoke]

AJ, I gotta say my friend, I have never - in almost 30 years - never seen plume on a band. That's the first hint that something is amiss. While it may not be mold, it isn't plume. If it looks crystilline under a magnifying glass, then there is probably something in the humidification system.

[md4958]

And Moe's fighting name is "The Big Cannoli". Get it right. :D

I heard it was "The Broken Brociole"? .....just sayin
Actually, it's "Mortadella Moe."

I thought it was "Marinara Moe"

Ive actually gone by all these names at one point or another in my career. And Rob, it wasnt "Broken", its just your sister couldnt get me to "rise to the occasion" cause she looks like you in a wig.

[Darrell]

I suppose you think sandwiches plume as well?

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1116620/2/istockphoto_1116620-moldy-sandwich.jpg

:D

[BC-Axeman]

I suppose you think sandwiches plume as well?

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1116620/2/istockphoto_1116620-moldy-sandwich.jpg

:D
Mmmmmm:dr
Blue Cheese Sandwich.

[SmokinApe]

Ive actually gone by all these names at one point or another in my career. And Rob, it wasnt "Broken", its just your sister couldnt get me to "rise to the occasion" cause she looks like you in a wig.

I think Rob looks good in a wig... Now his sister? Here teeth are so yellow she could butter a whole loaf of bread...

[replicant_argent]

If it looks like stripper glitter... you got the good stuff.
If you don't recognize stripper glitter, get thee to the club to research properly.
If it looks like dust, quit watching the Golden Girls reruns and thinking dust or mold is sexy. (See the Hog for Sexy Prune-like Bea Arthur "sexy-time" verification).

[vicvitola]

Ive actually gone by all these names at one point or another in my career. And Rob, it wasnt "Broken", its just your sister couldnt get me to "rise to the occasion" cause she looks like you in a wig.

Moe, I think the wig your old lady wears, the one Ape's old lady wears and the entirely different one my sister wears has you confused. All those wigs...I can see how it could happen.

[Emjaysmash]

Was the cigar expensive? i hope you write a review of it; i've never seen it before.

[SmokinApe]

Moe, I think the wig your old lady wears, the one Ape's old lady wears and the entirely different one my sister wears has you confused. All those wigs...I can see how it could happen.


No confusing those teeth, I was like AJ the first time I saw them... I thought it was PLUME!

[Sauer Grapes]

As Pete said, plume will look like stripper glitter. Hard to see sometimes if it's not in the right light, even hard to photograph. Plume never looks dust like or white, it is just crystalline and clear-ish.

[vicvitola]

No confusing those teeth, I was like AJ the first time I saw them... I thought it was PLUME!

How well can you know teeth? There are so few in your geographic area.:r

[NCRadioMan]

Plume never looks dust like or white, it is just crystalline and clear-ish.

It is white and/or dust like. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?p=80005#post80005

[issues]

Since we're on he subject...

Here's a cigar I've been keeping for the past 4 years that I believe is showing signs of plume:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/issues1975/Cigars/IMG_0143-1.jpg

Here's the celo showing signs of yellowing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/issues1975/Cigars/Img_0148-1.jpg

Does this look right?

[Sauer Grapes]

It is white and/or dust like. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?p=80005#post80005

Never in my experience. Mine looked just like Moki's Opus in the picture (the white spots only look that way when photographed as they are just the light reflecting off of the crystals. They were clear crystals and only the ones with light reflecting off of them showed up in pictures and looked just like that. Never looked white or dust like to the eye.

[poker]

Was the cigar expensive? i hope you write a review of it; i've never seen it before.

Joya de Nicaragua Gran Reserva


http://www.bigsmokecigars.com/Joya-de-Nicaragua-Antano-1970-Gran-Reserva-cigars.html

[marge796]

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Lets get ready to rumble!!!


:r


Chris.....

[Sauer Grapes]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/971/img2848bb3.jpg

You can see the "white" spots that are the few crystals that are reflecting the light at that angle. The cigar was "covered" in plume. I wish I could find a better picture, but that's all I have. Hopefully the pic works, as it took a while to pull up on my computer.

[UPHOTO]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/971/img2848bb3.jpg

You can see the "white" spots that are the few crystals that are reflecting the light at that angle. The cigar was "covered" in plume. I wish I could find a better picture, but that's all I have. Hopefully the pic works, as it took a while to pull up on my computer.

Sorry but that isn't Plume either.


That is ACTUAL stripper glitter!!!!

[NCRadioMan]

Never looked white or dust like to the eye.

I have seen many that did and smoked a few.

[Sauer Grapes]

It's possible I've just never seen it like that. All the plume I've seen has looked similar.

[issues]

It's possible I've just never seen it like that. All the plume I've seen has looked similar.

So what mine has isn't plume?

It doesn't look at all like mold and I doubt it is dust as it has been in the celo and kept in a humidor with an rh that has never dipped below 65 or above 72.

[Sauer Grapes]

So what mine has isn't plume?

It doesn't look at all like mold and I doubt it is dust as it has been in the celo and kept in a humidor with an rh that has never dipped below 65 or above 72.

Dunno. I wouldn't call it plume, but that doesn't mean it isn't.

[issues]

Dunno. I wouldn't call it plume, but that doesn't mean it isn't.

Well that's disappointing... :(

Should I separate this stick from the rest of my stock?

[maxnmisty435]

To make this real simple if it is in your own collection and looks like plume,mold,dust.....wipe it off and smoke it. If you go to a B&M and it looks like it has plume,dust,mold steer clear!

Just remember plume does not change the flavor.
Not having plume does not mean you are doing anything wrong.

I see these posts on every Cigar board out there. Quit getting hung up on plume!!!

It dont mean squat!! Just enjoy your cigars.

[pnoon]

Quit getting hung up on plume!!!

It dont mean squat!! Just enjoy your cigars.

Ain't that the truth!
:tu

[barbourjay]

i just find it humerous that almost with 99% of these cases of threads being started that it almost always winds up being mold/dust. i've honestly never seen a case of someone finding something from a b&m that really had plume on it. btw, after looking at it it looks like it's never been wiped down and it's really impurities from the humidification (probably minerals) building onto the cigar. as everyone else stated the rule is that if it's on the band, it isn't plume.

it's the rule, not the exception :)

[Darrell]

Look at all the plume on his face and clothes (they must be aged)!

http://www.emobilez.com/iphone-wallpapers/data/media/29/scarface_tony_montana_cocaine.jpg

:r

[pnoon]

:r

Darrell - You're such a commodian. ;)

http://premiermedicals.com/Commodes/DELUXE%20ALL-IN-ONE%20WELDED%20STEEL%20COMMODE%20WITH%20PLAST.jpg

[Skywalker]

Sorry but that isn't Plume either.


That is ACTUAL stripper glitter!!!!

:r:r:r

[BC-Axeman]

Mmmmmmm:dr, stripper glitter.

[Darrell]

Darrell - You're such a commodian. ;)

http://premiermedicals.com/Commodes/DELUXE%20ALL-IN-ONE%20WELDED%20STEEL%20COMMODE%20WITH%20PLAST.jpg

Thanks, Baldy. :D

[lightning9191]

Plume is like Bigfoot. Someone thinks they get a picture of it, puts it on the internet and then in the end the majority usually votes it isn't plume. Some people think they have seen it, but no one seems real sure. Those that are sure they have seen it are labeled as crazy. Are there any confirmed cases of plume? :tf

[68TriShield]

Thanks for the invaluable information AJ.