The 5 stick problem

[0002S]

PROBLEM:

You will be out of town for 5 days and want to carry and smoke 1 cigar a day. You will be able to set aside .45 - 1.5 hrs to enjoy the cigar. You can bring 5 of the same, 5 different, or any combination in between. You will be smoking outside in good warm weather.

BUT:

1. You cannot guarantee your meal before. (ex. It could be McDonald or a great Steak)

2. You cannot guarantee your drink with the cigar.

QUESTION:

What 5 cigars do you bring with you? What is the reasoning of the 5 choices given the parameters of the problem?

[issues]

Is price and rarity a concern or are you talking about every day cigars?

This sounds like an interesting scenario...

[0002S]

Is price and rarity a concern or are you talking about every day cigars?

This sounds like an interesting scenario...

No, not really

Price is relative to each individual, but I'm guessing that most are going to lean to everyday cigars that are in their price range.

Rarity again would be based on the individual and whether or not they would want to smoke a rare cigar without real control of the smoking environment.

To make is simple:

Nothing too rare or pricing, but really it's your call.

[Patrick B]

I'd just go with my usual suspects. Oliva V, DPG blue, Tat Noella, DPG JJ, and a Tat Angeles. I'd never complain about smoking any of those...

[issues]

If I were going on a trip I would probably take at least 2 of my favorite sticks and 3 of the everyday variety.

So I would do a Liga Privada No. 9 Robusto Oscuro and a Padron 1964 Anniversary Exclusivo Maduro for my nice sticks.

For quicker, less expensive smokes I would do a Rocky Patel Vintage 1990 Petit Corona, Tatuaje Noellas and a Gurkha Black Dragon Robusto.

A good mix of strengths, brands, flavors, sizes and prices.

:tu

[icehog3]

Partagas 898
H. Upmann Mag 48
Romeo y Julieta Duke
Cohiba Robusto
Montecristo #2

All can be smoked in 1.5 hours, and all pair good with lots of things.

[bobarian]

BGM
Party Lonsdale
HUpmann Conn #1
RASS
Hoyo des Dieux

All 60-90 minute smokes, mild to medium depending on mood or food. :tu

[markem]

Partagas 898
HU Sir Winston
Cohiba Siglo VI
RyJ Cazadores
Mag 50

[Jbailey]

I'll give it a whirl.

ERDM Gran Corona
Hoyo Du Prince
Partagas Charlotte
Bolivar Corona
Punch RS12

All different smokes and profiles that could be smoked in an hour and a half.

[MedicCook]

Partagas 898
H. Upmann Mag 48
Romeo y Julieta Duke
Cohiba Robusto
Montecristo #2

All can be smoked in 1.5 hours, and all pair good with lots of things.

BGM
Party Lonsdale
HUpmann Conn #1
RASS
Hoyo des Dieux

All 60-90 minute smokes, mild to medium depending on mood or food. :tu

Partagas 898
HU Sir Winston
Cohiba Siglo VI
RyJ Cazadores
Mag 50

I'll give it a whirl.

ERDM Gran Corona
Hoyo Du Prince
Partagas Charlotte
Bolivar Corona
Punch RS12

All different smokes and profiles that could be smoked in an hour and a half.

I'm traveling with these guy's. :r

[0002S]

I'm traveling with these guy's. :r

That's what I was thinking....:r:r

[systm]

For me i'd choose the following, as they don't seem to be affected by the meal before hand
Oliva V Double Robusto
Nub Habano (any)
DPG CC 1979 / Gurkha Anniversario
RP Sun Grown or Tat Angeles (depends what I got on hand)
WOAM

[icehog3]

I'm traveling with these guy's. :r

My humi is your humi, Brother. ;)

[NCRadioMan]

RG Lonsdale
H Up #2
Partagas Charlotte
Monte Espy #1
QdO Corona

[issues]

I'm traveling with these guy's. :r

That's what I was thinking!!!



:dr

[Robert Mabona]

would it be within the rules to bring 5 davi special "c"s?
i've chosen cigars that are accessible:
drac-provided i can pick a good one
Boli Beli Fino-yeah, a little short, but it's worth the sacrifice
Davidoff No.1 Habana Club-cause i haven't smoked one yet
RC184-i'll smoke fast
casa fernandez lancero-i can take my time with this one

[maverickdrinker]

cohiba lancero
cohiba VI
montecristo sublime
montecristo especial no 1
trinidad ingenio

[issues]

All of these CC lists are making me jealous! :D

I've yet to ever try one...

May have to call a travel agent and price a trip to the Bahamas. :tu

[icehog3]

All of these CC lists are making me jealous! :D

I've yet to ever try one...

May have to call a travel agent and price a trip to the Bahamas. :tu

Better hit the Atlantis, everything else in the Bahamas is fake. ;)

[issues]

Better hit the Atlantis, everything else in the Bahamas is fake. ;)

Well that sucks! :mad:

I may have to take a trip to Toronto then.

I have always wanted to visit the Hockey Hall of Fame anyway. :D


Sorry for the thread derail, back to your normally scheduled conversation.

[icehog3]

Well that sucks! :mad:

I may have to take a trip to Toronto then.

I have always wanted to visit the Hockey Hall of Fame anyway. :D


Sorry for the thread derail, back to your normally scheduled conversation.

That's what I'm talkin' about! :ih

[South Shield]

RASS
Padron 64 Maduro
EP Carrillo
Tatuaje Red Tubo
Saint Luis Rey Serie A

[Tripp]

I'd bring 5 T110's without question if I had plenty. :D

In real life... a chapo like a Fumadores, a Tatuaje J21, a DPG black lonsdale, DPG Blue Toro, and a Tatuaje Especiale.

Yeah, I'm a Pepin whore.

[pnoon]

Only 5? That's tough.

Montecristo Especial #1
Partagas Lonsdale
SCdLH El Principe
HdM du Roi (or du Depute)
H. Upmann Sir Winston

Davi No. 1s if uber sticks are allowed.


Davidoff No.1 Habana Club-cause i haven't smoked one yet

I'm not familiar with Davi No.1 Habana Club.

[Jbailey]

Better hit the Atlantis, everything else in the Bahamas is fake. ;)

About five years ago I found that out the hard way.

[icehog3]

About five years ago I found that out the hard way.

I had a guy selling "Esplendidos" on the beach in Nassau. 30 bucks each. Once I talked him down to 3 for $15, I bought them for a hoot. They were actually half way decent cigars. :r

[Patrick B]

I'd bring 5 T110's without question if I had plenty. :D

In real life... a chapo like a Fumadores, a Tatuaje J21, a DPG black lonsdale, DPG Blue Toro, and a Tatuaje Especiale.

Yeah, I'm a Pepin whore.

Right on!

Signed,

Another Pepin whore.

[NCRadioMan]

a DPG black lonsdale

I'm not familiar with this vitola. Didn't know he made a Black Label lonsdale.

[jerseystepup]

PSD4
siglo II
siglo VI
party short
anejo 77

[McSmokey]

PLPC
Party Short
LGC MdO3
AF Short Story
DPG CC 1979

[cherrybomb]

SCDH Oficio
Party Short
RASCC
PSD4
H. Upman Mag 50

[Tripp]

I'm not familiar with this vitola. Didn't know he made a Black Label lonsdale.

I'm certain it's not actually called a lonsdale, but I couldn't remember the real name at the time.


aha! Its the Especiale 1977.

[NCRadioMan]

I'm certain it's not actually called a lonsdale, but I couldn't remember the real name at the time.


aha! Its the Especiale 1977.

Cool. I really dig that one too! :tu

[Robert Mabona]

if we can make up fictional sticks, i'll swap something out for a camacho diploma lancero from, of course, all fifth priming(i know, not possible). or an epc lonsdale(aged, they're too young).

[NCRadioMan]

Davidoff No.1 Habana Club

if we can make up fictional sticks

:confused: I thought you already did.


;s :D

[Robert Mabona]

:confused: I thought you already did.


;s :D

how do you figure?

[NCRadioMan]

how do you figure?

I never heard of or seen a Davi No. 1 La Habana Clube. Frankly brudda, they look as fake as the day is long. At least the box does for sure. It should say La Habana Cuba. But I could be mistaken. Maybe a more experienced FOG will chime in.

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/corkthief/IMG_0377.jpg


Sorry for the threadjack OP!

[Smokin Gator]

When I am in that situation I usually take 15 sticks so I can choose... but since you said five:

Party Short
DPG Blue corona gorda
Monte Especial #1
Partagas de Partagas #1
Tat East Coast

That would give me some variety in strength and time to smoke.

[LeoM]

Hmm, let's see

Party Presidente
Party Short
LGC MdO #1
HU Mag 46
Boli GM

[tsolomon]

H. Up Mag 46
VR Famoso
PSD4
RASCC
Cohiba Sig I

[Smokin Gator]

Hmm, let's see

Party Presidente
Party Short
LGC MdO #1
HU Mag 46
Boli GM

I would be happy with that list ANYTIME!!!:tu

[0002S]

I have always wanted to visit the Hockey Hall of Fame anyway. :D

Going just to see it is worth the trip alone....:tu

[0002S]

I took a quick look to see if there was commonality between the choices.

Over 3 picks:
Party short
Siglo VI
Monte Esp #1

There are quite a few UP Cab 46/48/50

Other than these the choices are all across the board.

[icehog3]

I took a quick look to see if there was commonality between the choices.

Over 3 picks:
Party short
Siglo VI
Monte Esp #1

There are quite a few UP Cab 46/48/50

Other than these the choices are all across the board.

Different strokes for different folks. :)

[massphatness]

ERDM Choix Supreme
Party Lons
Bolivar Simones
Cohiba Sig II
RASS

:tu
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[troutbreath]

I actually deal with this problem every week. I travel Mon - Thu, just about every week all year. I usually fill the 5-ct humi with whatever strikes me as interesting at the time on Monday morning. Sometimes it's the good stuff. Sometimes it's the everyday sticks.

Regardless, they are enjoyable after a long day.

[GreekGodX]

I love these kinds of threads :tu

RASS
Cohiba Lancero
H.Upmann Mag48
Partagas Lonsdale
Monte #2

[bookman]

98 Boli Corona Jr
H. Upman mag 48
ERDM Lunch club
Punch Petit Corona
Juan Lopez #2

[E.J.]

Well, I just did this "sort of" on a little vacation I took. In the travel humi were....
LADC EE #5
Illusione 88
Don Carlos Double Robusto
Opus X Robusto
Alec Bradley Tempus TN

Think that was it...could be missing something. Had multis of each stick(I was thinking 2-3 sticks a day).

Reasoning....it was what I had in the humi.... If I did it again, I would be happy to take the same thing....

[Robert Mabona]

I never heard of or seen a Davi No. 1 La Habana Clube. Frankly brudda, they look as fake as the day is long. At least the box does for sure. It should say La Habana Cuba. But I could be mistaken. Maybe a more experienced FOG will chime in.

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/corkthief/IMG_0377.jpg


Sorry for the threadjack OP!

these have been authenticated by:
1. the managing director of these establishments:
C.Gars Ltd (London and Norfolk)
Modern,Vintage and Rare Havana Cigar Specialists

La Casa Del Habano-Hamburg

Turmeaus Tobacconist Est. 1817 (Liverpool and Chester)

Robert Graham Ltd Est. 1874 ( Glasgow ,Edinburgh and London)

2. Paul Palmer

3. Jeff Borysiewicz

[markem]

Other than these the choices are all across the board.

Variety is the spice of life :tu

[acruce]

Bring what you like best at the time.

[RevSmoke]

PROBLEM:

You will be out of town for 5 days and want to carry and smoke 1 cigar a day. You will be able to set aside .45 - 1.5 hrs to enjoy the cigar. You can bring 5 of the same, 5 different, or any combination in between. You will be smoking outside in good warm weather.

BUT:

1. You cannot guarantee your meal before. (ex. It could be McDonald or a great Steak)

2. You cannot guarantee your drink with the cigar.

QUESTION:

What 5 cigars do you bring with you? What is the reasoning of the 5 choices given the parameters of the problem?


OK, the problem is your limitations.

I go to a pastor's conference for 4 days - will probably be able to smoke 3 cigars - so I bring a dozen. :D

[RevSmoke]

OK, so I'll play once nicely.

These are all things that I can smoke in the time constraints, as I usually savor my cigars and so they often run longer on burn time than many others.

Oliva V Lancero - great anytime, and goes with most foods.
Oliva Connecticut Lonsdale - I'm really grooving on these lately, and they fit well with most of the beverages I'd enjoy sans alcohol, and many that I'd enjoy with.
Taboo HSG Robusto - Great cigar, anytime.
Montecristo #4 - Goes with anything.
Cruzado Avalitos - (of course this would mean I'd need to pick up a couple more)

[Deputy]

I would go with:

Kristoff Maduro
Partagas Serie D#4
Bolivar Royal Corona
Rocky Patel Edge
Diesel

[kgraybill]

I would take

Two Punch Rare Corojo Rothchilds because they go well in any situation.

One Padron 64 Principe natural.

One Camacho triple maduro 11/18. Great smoke as well as a conversation piece.

One Padilla 68 torp. Why not.

[mariogolbee]

DPG FirecrackerAF
Short Story
WOAM
Anejo Shark
Partagas Culebra

[kydsid]

All i see in this thread is a lot of lying. Like most of us would take less than 20 sticks for a 5 day trip. :r

[Smokin Gator]

When I am in that situation I usually take 15 sticks so I can choose... but since you said five:.

All i see in this thread is a lot of lying. Like most of us would take less than 20 sticks for a 5 day trip. :r

I didn't lie!!!:r:r

[Addiction]

The real problem here is you took five cigars.

Last year I went to Florida for 7 days. I took 20 cigars. Having the right choice is never an option if you take enough ammunition.

But currently I would take:

01 Cohiba Lancero - loving this cigar right now.
01 QdO Corona - Great morning cigar
98 Cohiba Esplendido - Do I have to explain that one lol.
09 Boli Especiale #2 - Another favorite cigar for me lately
1994 - Whenever I go on a trip I always take a special cigar for every 3-4 days, this would be the special one now.

[Navydoc]

these have been authenticated by:
1. the managing director of these establishments:
C.Gars Ltd (London and Norfolk)
Modern,Vintage and Rare Havana Cigar Specialists

La Casa Del Habano-Hamburg

Turmeaus Tobacconist Est. 1817 (Liverpool and Chester)

Robert Graham Ltd Est. 1874 ( Glasgow ,Edinburgh and London)

2. Paul Palmer

3. Jeff Borysiewicz

You are aware that these highlighted establishments are all owned by the same guy: Mitchel Orchant. I have no idea who the others references are. Maybe you can enlighten me.

[Robert Mabona]

You are aware that these highlighted establishments are all owned by the same guy: Mitchel Orchant. I have no idea who the others references are. Maybe you can enlighten me.

1. yes, i'm aware
2. paul palmer=tabacalera tropical
3. jeff borysiewicz=corona cigar company

[SmokeyMo]

Guys

I think some simple clarification is needed here:

1/ photos of cigars were sent to me a few weeks ago.they were humungous files and exceptionally unclear

2/I suggested post the said box of cigars to me for authentication which was not done

3/Anything that says Clube on Davidoff is counterfeit

Best

MItchell

[icehog3]

Thank you for the clarification, Mitchell.

[Addiction]

1. yes, i'm aware
2. paul palmer=tabacalera tropical
3. jeff borysiewicz=corona cigar company

Corona Cigars of Orlando?

I can't say for sure I've talked to Jeff, but I've talked to a dozen of their employees in the last few years during family and business trips and nothing about those conversations has lead me to believe I've encountered any cuban expertise in any of those shops.

[jkim05]

Guys

I think some simple clarification is needed here:

1/ photos of cigars were sent to me a few weeks ago.they were humungous files and exceptionally unclear

2/I suggested post the said box of cigars to me for authentication which was not done

3/Anything that says Clube on Davidoff is counterfeit

Best

MItchell

I think this closes the case file on these.

[elderboy02]

Tatuaje Boris
Tatuaje Black
Bolivar Corona Extra (Cuban)
Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic
Oliva V

[Robert Mabona]

MO, I sent this exact photo to you. How is it any more clear now than it was then?
and why would i SEND you my cigars for authentication? maybe instead i should package up a few hundred dollar bills for you to authenticate?

Addiction, the knowledge of the staff is irrelevant as I stated JEFF spoke for the cigars.

[Addiction]

MO, I sent this exact photo to you. How is it any more clear now than it was then?
and why would i SEND you my cigars for authentication? maybe instead i should package up a few hundred dollar bills for you to authenticate?

Addiction, the knowledge of the staff is irrelevant as I stated JEFF spoke for the cigars.

What makes Jeff an expert? If Mo had spoken for them, as you previously indicated, that would be meaningful. But I could show that photo to Gary Pesh, managing partner of Olde Virginia Tobacco which is either the 3rd or 4th largest chain in the US and he's been in the business over 20 years. However he'd readily admit he has no information in these circles.

Being in the business doesn't indicate he has any insight into the legitmatacy or provenence of this box.

[Robert Mabona]

this is a quote from a series of e-mails between Mitchell and myself. "As far as I can tell from your rather awful photography skills (!) the cigars look authentic."

Jeff sells a multitude of Pre-embargo cigars which he must prove to the US GOVERNMENT their provenAnce. Maybe you can check his credentials with the BATF?

[LooseCard]

Okay, back on topic....

OK, the problem is your limitations.

I go to a pastor's conference for 4 days - will probably be able to smoke 3 cigars - so I bring a dozen. :D

I'd have to agree. I go to the Local hangout to smoke a couple, and bring 5 or 6 in a ziplock baggie.


Otherwise, I'd have to go to storage and select 5 random sticks.
Every smoke is special, and so is day I enjoy it.



Shortly after an online-friend died, I decided to never 'save it' for a special occasion. That day may not come before I go.

[Addiction]

this is a quote from a series of e-mails between Mitchell and myself. "As far as I can tell from your rather awful photography skills (!) the cigars look authentic."

Jeff sells a multitude of Pre-embargo cigars which he must prove to the US GOVERNMENT their provenAnce. Maybe you can check his credentials with the BATF?

If I scroll up it appears that Mitchell himself believes the two of you had a completely different conversation.

Jeff can buy his preembargos at a Christies auction or from Mo. Both would provide you everything needed to prove you had pre-embargo cigars. Using either source does not make you an expert. In fact I'd say that if its not a case (as with Mo) that you recall one thing and he recalls another the fact that Mo, a well recognized expert believes the box not to be legitamate may be a clear indicator of Jeff's lack of expertise.

Also did a flip through of the MRN and no mention of them there.

Hope they didnt set up back to much more than the NCs they might be.

[kugie]

I'd bring 5 T110's without question if I had plenty. :D

In real life... a chapo like a Fumadores, a Tatuaje J21, a DPG black lonsdale, DPG Blue Toro, and a Tatuaje Especiale.

Yeah, I'm a Pepin whore.


:tpd:

[Robert Mabona]

you argue like my gf. there are no other possibilities other than what you say is correct. in which case i must be a huge liar. so i'll respond to you the same way, "you're right, honey."
the cigars were given to me. but thanks for your consideration.

[Addiction]

You debate like you have a complex. I never said you were a huge liar, or any liar actually. I simply disagreed with your supposition that a particular source should be considered an expert witness.

Tho given you cite MO as a source of verification and he shows up and and calls bullshit I could understand why you might think I think your a huge liar.

[NCRadioMan]

you argue like my gf. there are no other possibilities other than what you say is correct. in which case i must be a huge liar. so i'll respond to you the same way, "you're right, honey."
the cigars were given to me. but thanks for your consideration.

Nobody thinks you are a liar, just misinformed and duped into thinking you got the real thing. It smarts when that happens and it's happened to many, many of us. It was a gift and, if the original owner didn't know, it's the thought that counts.



On topic, if I had a second choice of 5, I would choose:

JL Corona
Bolivar lonsdale
RG Slenderella
Tat Especiales
Cabaiguan Coronas Extra

[jkim05]

this is a quote from a series of e-mails between Mitchell and myself. "As far as I can tell from your rather awful photography skills (!) the cigars look authentic."

Jeff sells a multitude of Pre-embargo cigars which he must prove to the US GOVERNMENT their provenAnce. Maybe you can check his credentials with the BATF?

Well, at this point it doesn't matter what Mitchell said before since he came to this thread and stated his opinion clearly. He didn't say whether the cigars looked authentic or not, he stated that any box of Davidoff's that says "clube" on it is definitely fake. Are you suggesting he's changing his opinion based on the statements of others here? Why are you questioning his credibility if you wanted to use him as a reference to validate your cigars in the first place? Nobody is calling you a liar here, they are just pointing out facts that are not adding up.

Also, Davidoff is a post-embargo brand established in 1969, so no US vendor would be doing any sales of Cuban Davidoffs, therefore to suggest that they are familiar with those cigars based on sales of pre-embargo cigars is moot. We're not questioning your honesty nor that of whoever you got the cigars from, but unless you can demonstrate to us provenance and where they originated from, at this point the cigars look dubious at best.

[Robert Mabona]

back to where this started:
the cigars are not fictional. they may be counterfeit, and even still, i'm gonna smoke 'em. but not fictional.
i have no desire to show provenance here, because i'm not trying to sell them.

[kelmac07]

I'm traveling with these guy's. :r

:tpd: Me too Ryan!! :tu

[poker]

back to where this started:
the cigars are not fictional. they may be counterfeit, and even still, i'm gonna smoke 'em. but not fictional.
i have no desire to show provenance here, because i'm not trying to sell them.

I think we all know that. What everyones saying is just that they are not what they are puported to be or portrayed to be.

[skibumdc]

methinks an apology might be owed to Addiction and others from Robert Madona?
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=27859

[chenvt]

methinks an apology might be owed to Addiction and others from Robert Madona?
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=27859

Or a bouquet of roses since Addiction argues like his girlfriend..

[TrickNick]

Or a bouquet of roses since Addiction argues like his girlfriend..

:r:r:r:r:r

[0002S]

LOL, so I guess this would not be 1 of 5 to carry

[Clampdown]

Or a bouquet of roses since Addiction argues like his girlfriend..

If you bring Big B roses he will slap you in the face, it better be a bouquet of Lanceros.

Here is what I would bring,

#9 Robusto
1997
Cohiba Petite Belicoso Sun Grown
Altadis Siglo II Tubo
Pre-Embargo El Buho Blanco

[skibumdc]

:rofl: hilarious

[Addiction]

If you bring Big B roses he will slap you in the face, it better be a bouquet of Lanceros.

Here is what I would bring,

#9 Robusto
1997
Cohiba Petite Belicoso Sun Grown
Altadis Siglo II Tubo
Pre-Embargo El Buho Blanco

You need Jebus. Please y'all pray for this man.

[Robert Mabona]

how bout a fake davidoff?

[md4958]

methinks an apology might be owed to Addiction and others from Robert Madona?
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=27859

:tpd:

[md4958]

#9 Robusto

I would just bring 5 of these... my favorite stick :dr

[Chemyst]

DPG Serie JJ maduro
San Cristobal
RP OWR
AF Hemi maduro
Ashton VSG

Chemyst :cool2:

[n.olson99]

i'll play.

something durable in case it is mcdonalds: La Aroma de cuba cetro
so on the other side, my padron 44th for a great steak dinner
for the in between, lets say
tatuaje havana VI victorias
don pepin CC 1952 la perla
illusione cg4

[spectrrr]

OK, the problem is your limitations.

I go to a pastor's conference for 4 days - will probably be able to smoke 3 cigars - so I bring a dozen. :D

When I am in that situation I usually take 15 sticks so I can choose...

:r:r :tpd: x10
Aso gives you a few to share should the occasion arise.


BUT since you said 5.....

CC LGC (any)
RASS
MAG 50
Oliva V lancero
Padilla Obsidian

[spectrrr]

DPG FirecrackerAF
Short Story
WOAM
Anejo Shark
Partagas Culebra

ummmm... did no one catch the blatant cheating? thats three sticks tied together, I'm calling foul on this one! :tg

[Robert Mabona]

ummmm... did no one catch the blatant cheating? thats three sticks tied together, I'm calling foul on this one! :tg

i asked about that earlier regarding davidoff special "c"s

[spectrrr]

ahh, missed that

[Blueface]

Here are the five I would take.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=5071&d=1263389618
I had them authenticated by:

Icehog3
Pnoon
Bruce

Thanks guys.