When do you own a box?

[skibumdc]

According to Addiction's wording, if you consume 1 cigar out of a box, you no longer have a BOX.

For example, he has 5 full intact boxes of Cohiba Reservas, and 1 open box.

Now MOST of us would say he has 6 boxes, but Addiction is VERY specific in his wording and says he only has 5 boxes.

Is his math or wording correct?

If his wording is true, then I only have 3 boxes.

I tried using that Fuzzy Math with my wife http://www.internationalcigarclub.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gifhttp://www.internationalcigarclub.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gifhttp://www.internationalcigarclub.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Yeah, she didn't buy it.

So, if I open a PSD4 box and consume 1 or 2 cigars, do I still have a box?

[tobii3]

I own 100's of boxes.

No more cigars in them though.....:r

[chachee52]

So If have a bag of chips and eat one chip, than I don't have a bag of chips anymore? Which means than I can go buy another bag of chips? hmmmmmm I might need to use this one!!

[RightAJ]

All I know is that Addiction better have a good security system because those SIX boxes of Cohiba Reservas sound freakin sweet:ss

aj

[skibumdc]

He doesn't need a security system....have you seen him?
If someone crossed him, they might never find the body :)

[RightAJ]

He doesn't need a security system....have you seen him?
If someone crossed him, they might never find the body :)

Haha no never seen him. Ok I'll be sure to come in body armor lol

Man some of you guys smoke some crazy stuff...

aj

[slickster81]

Prime example of the old adage (correctly worded, Adam of Leeds, Yorkshire will back me up on this one....)

You can't eat your cake and have it too.....

(i.e. American way of saying it is "you can't have your cake and eat it too", which is absurd since if you have the cake, of course you can eat it, however the correct adage states you cannot eat the cake and also have it.)

Hope that clears this mess up!!!

Hahahaaaaaaaaa:hf:hf:hf

[Addiction]

Haha no never seen him. Ok I'll be sure to come in body armor lol

Man some of you guys smoke some crazy stuff...

aj

Unless things have changed a lot since my days in the service no body armor for the face lol.

[Addiction]

If you sold 21 cigars as a box, and that box of cigars started with 25, you would get flamed over it. So clearly less than the full compliment isn't a box.

[Skywalker]

A diesel train left the station traveling north 1.5 hours before a freight train. The freight train traveled in the opposite direction going 6 km/h faster then the diesel train for two hours after which time the trains were 312.3 km apart. Find the diesel train's speed.

What was the question???:confused:

I never was good with math!!!:r

[shilala]

A box of cigars is a box of cigars if it's full of the cigars that came in it.
If it's been opened, then it's a full open box of cigars.
If I sell a box of 2006 Anejos and some are 2005, it ain't a box of 2006 Anejos.
Once it's empty, it's just a box.
For me, it's time to get another box once the first one comes out. That way the others are getting ready for when the open box is getting smoked.
I'm not sure what MOBD is talking about, but if it's a train full of cigars, I get to cherry pick. I called it first. :tu

[slickster81]

Solved using Spock logic.....

If Addiction sends Slick his open boxes, then he will have nothing but full boxes based on the definition of the many. :D



Too darn much coffee this morning........

[icehog3]

25 sticks in the box = A box

24 sticks in the box = A partial box

[Blueface]

Once it's empty, it's just a box.


And we can give it to Richard to use on a very cold Florida day.:D

25 sticks in the box = A box

24 sticks in the box = A partial box

What happens if the box is comprised of 24? 20?
Holy crap!!! A box that comes with 24 to begin with is thereby only A Partial Box?:r
Man, that complicates things even more now.:r

[icehog3]

What happens if the box is comprised of 24? 20?
Holy crap!!! A box that comes with 24 to begin with is thereby only A Partial Box?:r
Man, that complicates things even more now.:r

I was wondering who the first joker would be, Carlos...I shoulda figured. :r

[groogs]

I have to agree with Addiction, a box of cigars is a full box.

[Blueface]

I was wondering who the first joker would be, Carlos...I shoulda figured. :r

:r
Glad to help out and not disappoint.
Man can I have fun with this one for a while.:r

[icehog3]

:r
Glad to help out and not disappoint.
Man can I have fun with this one for a while.:r

If you disagree, I have a box of Escudos to sell you for $300.

There are only 4 cigars in it, but it's a box, right? :)




(I am not selling Cuban cigars, this is a inside joke / lame attempt at humor).

[GKitty]

If you sold 21 cigars as a box, and that box of cigars started with 25, you would get flamed over it. So clearly less than the full compliment isn't a box.

:tpd: For the sake of transactions.

To my own personal stock keeping:
If it's only missing 3 or fewer, it's still a box.
If it's short a 5er or more, then it's most of a box.
Obviously, if approximately half the original number remain, it's half a box.
If there's less than 1/3 of the original number, I have none... and an excuse to go shopping. :D

Here's the brainbender: If I have two boxes of the same cigar (both date & factory stamps are identical), does combining two partial boxes mean I once again have a box?

[McSmokey]

Here's the brainbender: If I have two boxes of the same cigar (both date & factory stamps are identical), does combining two partial boxes mean I once again have a box?

I would say yes because supposedly all sticks came from the same factory on the same date

[Cigargal]

I'm not sure anyone on this forum is dealing with a full box :r

[Blueface]

Is this a partial box of cigars or partially a box of cigars?
Is it even a box at all?
Does this person even have cigars?
Is it half full or half empty, if he once had another box to go with this once use to be box?
Could these Anejos be too old to qualify as cigars and now should be called vintage?
Does a box of vintage qualify as a box of cigars?
Does a box that once housed cigars and is now empty still qualify as a box of cigars or is it just a box that WAS for cigars?
Why does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?
Why do people drive on parkways and park on driveways?
Why do birds suddenly appear, every time, you are near, just like me, they long to be, close to you. On the day that you were born, the angels got together and decided................................
Why did I just recite the freaking lyrics to a Carpenters song?
What the hell am I doing?
Why am I not smoking a cigar from a box that use to be a box before I killed the idea it is still a box?

[markem]

If you disagree, I have a box of Escudos to sell you for $300.

There are only 4 cigars in it, but it's a box, right? :)

me http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs39/f/2008/328/c/d/Jump_test_by_MixedMilkChOcOlate.gif me http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs39/f/2008/328/c/d/Jump_test_by_MixedMilkChOcOlate.gif pick me. The rest of you stay away http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs15/f/2007/092/7/0/Jump_Slash_by_Zeraga.gif


(I am not selling Cuban cigars, this is a inside joke / lame attempt at humor). oh fiddle sticks http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs40/f/2009/007/c/1/sad_by_Yoshiko_86.gif

[rack04]

I would say yes because supposedly all sticks came from the same factory on the same date

I respectfully disagree. What if the boxes came from different vendors? What if they have different shade wrappers? There are a lot of variances between boxes. I couldn't in good conscience combine two partial boxes into one and market it as a box.

[McSmokey]

Carlos you'll need to send those to me so I can confirm that it is not a box :dr :r:r

[Blueface]

I respectfully disagree. What if the boxes came from different vendors? What if they have different shade wrappers? There are a lot of variances between boxes. I couldn't in good conscience combine two partial boxes into one and market it as a box.

Shading is just for presentation.
Many boxes, in spite of color segmentation have various shades within it.
In fact, many boxes have had one shade on the top row with yet a different shade on the bottom row.

[Blueface]

Carlos you'll need to send those to me so I can confirm that it is not a box

Wish I could.
Not mine.
Found it on Google Images.:r

I have a feeling I am going to have fun with this thread.:r

Is an egg a chicken or is an egg not a chicken because it has yet to hatch? If a chicken is then born with one leg, since it does not have two, is it then not a chicken, or better yet, is it a Partial Chicken?:r

[McSmokey]

I've been had!!! :r:r

[bobarian]

I'm not sure anyone on this forum is dealing with a full box :r

My brain hurts!
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7779/brainhurts.gif (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/brainhurts.gif/)

[Blueface]

Is an egg a chicken or is an egg not a chicken because it has yet to hatch? If a chicken is then born with one leg, since it does not have two, is it then not a chicken, or better yet, is it a Partial Chicken?:r

Does it matte what you call it as it won't be able to freaking walk over to you anyway?:r
Next,
What if that "whatever" goes to market, is bought and cooked. What does mom tell her family she cooked?
What if it had two legs, is cooked and someone eats one leg. No longer a chicken?

This is killing me!!!
I need to know!!!

[Deputy]

This is a weird topic. The arguement is one of semantics...i would classify a box of cigars as one full of cigars. But too each their own. This will probably be as varied as peoples tastes in cigars.

[slickster81]

This is a weird topic. The arguement is one of semantics...i would classify a box of cigars as one full of cigars. But too each their own. This will probably be as varied as peoples tastes in cigars.

It would be if anyone were serious here.

Kudos to Crystal for making it a perfect justification to go shopping!

Give that girl a cigar!!! :tu

[SilverFox]

I am with addiction on this one.

However I think of my overall volume in boxes so in my case I think I have 110 to 120 boxes...........where that implies the total # of sticks but I probably only have 60 or so actual boxes :r but another 70 to 80 partials

;s

[RevSmoke]

If you sold 21 cigars as a box, and that box of cigars started with 25, you would get flamed over it. So clearly less than the full compliment isn't a box.

Obviously, this is a truism. And, were I to say "I just bought 3 boxes of Punch Rotschilds, you'd assume I have 150 cigars."

However, were I to say, "I bought 3 boxes of cigars last month - one Punch Rothschilds, one Oliva O Coronas, and one AF Chateaus." One may or may not assume they are still full. However, I have the boxes - they are in my humidor - and some are more full than others. Do I have boxes of those cigars? Yes! With the cellophane off, most who would look into my coolerdor would assume they are not full boxes.

If people come into my garage, they will see many cigar boxes, but they assume they hold many things other than cigars.

And, when I go to sell cigars, I'd say, "I have a box 11/20 of Oliva O Rothschilds for $XX.00." Or, "I have a full box of Oliva O Rothschilds for $XX.00."

I think we could be straining at grammatical gnats here. Most would define what they mean by "a box of cigars" as they state it.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

[Blueface]

After careful thought, I want to thank all in this thread.
I feel confident I can now face my wife and make a solid argument why I need to buy more cigars.
Clearly, I now understand that I don't have the number of boxes she sees and thinks I have. What I have is half of what she thinks I have, which is twice as many as she cares to see.
So.....I will either be back around soon posting, with an accumulated true number of boxes of cigars as has now been clearly defined OR I will be dead somewhere. If the latter, please note it was my wife that did it.:r

[SkinsFanLarry]

If the box only had one cigar in it than it would be a box with cigar!

[Blueface]

If the box only had one cigar in it than it would be a box with cigar!

I have the next one.

If the box only had TWO cigars in it then it would be a box with cigarS.

So I gather the critical issue here is a box OF cigars or a box WITH cigars.

[JaKaacH]

If a mans head had one hair on it would he be bald..?

[Blueface]

If a mans head had one hair on it would he be bald..?

OK,
Would he have hair?:r
It is not a full head!

[Blueface]

After careful thought, I want to thank all in this thread.
I feel confident I can now face my wife and make a solid argument why I need to buy more cigars.
Clearly, I now understand that I don't have the number of boxes she sees and thinks I have. What I have is half of what she thinks I have, which is twice as many as she cares to see.
So.....I will either be back around soon posting, with an accumulated true number of boxes of cigars as has now been clearly defined OR I will be dead somewhere. If the latter, please note it was my wife that did it.:r

My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

[JaKaacH]

My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

I've alway been told to be careful of what you ask for, you might get it.

[slickster81]

My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

I think the humidity would be off....

[icehog3]

I'm not sure anyone on this forum is dealing with a full box :r

Too funny Marianne...but true! :D :r

[rizzle]

That's why I only buy glass-top boxes so as I can always tell if they're full or not.

:tu

[icehog3]

I think it is directly after step one when you cut a hole in the box........

:r :r

What about junk?

[bobarian]

When do you own a box?

Usually 10-14days after I click "Process Order":D

[Blueface]

When do you own a box?

Usually 10-14days after I click "Process Order":D

Winner!!!:r

[dentonparrots]

if you dig a hole, then fill half of it in...do you still have a hole or half a hole?

[DMK]

All of you have way too much time on your hands...
Go smoke something will ya....
I own about forty boxes, most of the 'partial', some of them hold something other that cigars... errr... time for a smoke....

[marge796]

Until I throw it away?


:r


Chris.....

[Smokin Gator]

[B]After I click "Process Order":D

Change Bob's for my response!!!:tu

[Cigargal]

My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

If a man speaks in the forest and his wife is no where around to hear him...is he still wrong??

[Ashcan Bill]

If a man speaks in the forest and his wife is no where around to hear him...is he still wrong??

My wife just said yes. ;)

[BC-Axeman]

If we are about to herf, then I have boxes of cigars that there are still enough of to be in the boxes. If I were to sell or trade them, they would have to be full. If we are talking about my favorites, then it doesn't matter how many are left if I like them enough to be always buying more, there will always be a box.

[Bubba - NJ]

I keep all cigars in the box they came in when I bought them . If there is 5 left they stay in the box and still take up a box space . Only after they move to the singles tray does the box go away , helps with keeping box codes straight . His way seems very technical but I do see where he is coming from . :ss

[Blueface]

If a man speaks in the forest and his wife is no where around to hear him...is he still wrong??

My wife just said yes. ;)

My wife responded slightly different than just yes.

Her answer was:

ALWAYS!

She says the only time I have been right is any time I realize I am wrong.

[njstone]

I see Addiction's point, though it is kinda splitting hairs. I always just make it clear by using the word full, like:

"I want a FULL CAB of Tat Verocu East Side."

But I always estimate when I'm just figuring things out in my head or talking to people. I might say "I have like 4 boxes WORTH of Padilla Signature 1932s," meaning around 100 sticks--even though they were purchased in 5, 10, and 20-packs and not actual full factory boxes!

[GKitty]

My wife happened to call me and I mentioned this to her.
Here is her response, as close as I can paraphrase it:

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

My wife ... says the only time I have been right is any time I realize I am wrong.

:r :r

Mr. Blueface, sir, I'd love to herf with your wife. Your attendance is optional. :D

Marianne said it best, nobody here is playing with a full box.

Threads like this remind me why I love this place.

[Pat1075]

So If have a bag of chips and eat one chip, than I don't have a bag of chips anymore? Which means than I can go buy another bag of chips? hmmmmmm I might need to use this one!!
:r that is great i think if you've smoked a solid quArter of the way through
it you no longer have a box

[Skywalker]

Example:
I had a friend stop by the day before Christmas and say he ran out of time buying a box of CCs for a friend. It was way beyond too late to order online. He asked if he could buy a box of something special for his friend?

I told him, "Sorry, I have no boxes!!! Perhaps I could put a box together?"

Did he walk away with a box of really nice cigars? Yes!

Were they all the same marca? No!

I owned no boxes!!!

[Tashaz]

My theory is, if you bought the full box, you own it. Does not matter how many you have smoked.

[brigey57]

According to Addiction's wording, if you consume 1 cigar out of a box, you no longer have a BOX.

For example, he has 5 full intact boxes of Cohiba Reservas, and 1 open box.

Now MOST of us would say he has 6 boxes, but Addiction is VERY specific in his wording and says he only has 5 boxes.

Is his math or wording correct?

If his wording is true, then I only have 3 boxes.

I tried using that Fuzzy Math with my wife http://www.internationalcigarclub.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gifhttp://www.internationalcigarclub.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gifhttp://www.internationalcigarclub.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Yeah, she didn't buy it.

So, if I open a PSD4 box and consume 1 or 2 cigars, do I still have a box?

A box of cigars is a box of cigars if it's full of the cigars that came in it.
If it's been opened, then it's a full open box of cigars.
If I sell a box of 2006 Anejos and some are 2005, it ain't a box of 2006 Anejos.
Once it's empty, it's just a box.
For me, it's time to get another box once the first one comes out. That way the others are getting ready for when the open box is getting smoked.
I'm not sure what MOBD is talking about, but if it's a train full of cigars, I get to cherry pick. I called it first. :tu

25 sticks in the box = A box

24 sticks in the box = A partial box

If I have a box of 25 cigars and I take one out I have a partial box of cigars, but if my wife sees me take the first cigar out of the box I have a question; "and when did you buy that one!":su

[icehog3]

If I have a box of 25 cigars and I take one out I have a partial box of cigars, but if my wife sees me take the first cigar out of the box I have a question; "and when did you buy that one!":su

:r :r

[n3uka]

Well then, since you don't have that many boxes, that means you can shove them all up your ..... as they will fit better now.:r

That's one way to get the Cuban barnyard smell :r

[njstone]

That's one way to get the Cuban barnyard smell :r

but only if your ... is Cuban

[skibumdc]

I fully admit Bryan is right if you are counting boxes in terms of the ability to sell.
For me, who does not intend to sell partial boxes, if I purchase and smoke a few out of the box, I still consider myself having a box.

Just my opinion

[okieRob]

For me: (ok I may be splitting hairs here)

I have a full box until it has been opened.

I have a partial box until I move the remaining gars to the singles drawer.

[68TriShield]

I wish I could amuse myself as easily as the op :rolleyes:

[n.olson99]

For me: (ok I may be splitting hairs here)

I have a full box until it has been opened.

I have a partial box until I move the remaining gars to the singles drawer.

that sounds pretty fair.