McGwire Admits to Steroids......

[Blueface]

....during home run race with Sammy.

[Scottw]

Wow, who'd ever think that he was on them. hahahaha. What a putz.

[Tombstone]

Shocking:D

[AD720]

We can file that one under "duh".

[Blueface]

Wow, who'd ever think that he was on them. hahahaha. What a putz.

Shocking:D

:r
The only one that didn't know he was on them was him.:r

[NCRadioMan]

McGwire says, "It's the first time they've ever heard me, you know, talk about this. I hid it from everybody."


Uh, no you didn't. :r

The andro was always the red herring.

http://brotherpeacemaker.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/markmcguire-gotjuice.jpg

[kelmac07]

Surprise surprise!!

[Parshooter]

Oh, NOW he wants to talk about the past. What an ass. Can't believe he got votes for the HOF. :td

[NCRadioMan]

Oh, NOW he wants to talk about the past. What an ass. Can't believe he got votes for the HOF. :td

Apparently, when a check is on the line, it's time to talk about the past. Not when testifying, under oath, in front of a Senate Committee. :rolleyes:

[elderboy02]

Apparently, when a check is on the line, it's time to talk about the past. Not when testifying, under oath, in front of a Senate Committee. :rolleyes:

+1

Stay classy McGwire :td

[Don Fernando]

....during home run race with Sammy.

geez, I live an ocean away, baseball is just a minor sport over here, and even I knew back then that he used steroids.

[VirtualSmitty]

Apparently, when a check is on the line, it's time to talk about the past. Not when testifying, under oath, in front of a Senate Committee. :rolleyes:

:tpd:+2 though i'm not surprised.

[AD720]

It's incredible how obvious it is and that these guys still flatly deny it. It's insulting really.

Does anyone believe for a second that Bonds wasn't juicing?

If so I've got some prime Alaskan beach front property you may be interested in...

[ActionAndy]

It's incredible how obvious it is and that these guys still flatly deny it. It's insulting really.

Does anyone believe for a second that Bonds wasn't juicing?

If so I've got some prime Alaskan beach front property you may be interested in...

We've also got a bridge in Brooklyn...

Andrew & Andrew Real Estate.

[AD720]

We've also got a bridge in Brooklyn...

Andrew & Andrew Real Estate.

:r

[hotreds]

Turns out Jose was right about many/most things!

[GreekGodX]

Actually McGwire never denied using. In the federal jury trial he repeated, "I'm not here to talk about the past".

He's only doing this so 1. People will forgive him 2. He won't face questions about it during spring training coaching the Cards 3. Getting into the HOF.

[icehog3]

Actually McGwire never denied using. In the federal jury trial he repeated, "I'm not here to talk about the past".

He's only doing this so 1. People will forgive him 2. He won't face questions about it during spring training coaching the Cards 3. Getting into the HOF.

1. People will forgive him (I bet most won't)

2. He won't face questions about it during spring training coaching the Cards
(It's gonna be a circus)

3. Getting into the HOF (not bloody likely)

Still give him some props for having cajones though...bet Bonds and Sosa don't.

[Volt]

OMG! Say it aint so. I'm so surprised....... Not

[NCRadioMan]

Still give him some props for having cajones though...bet Bonds and Sosa don't.

Sammy has cajones for doing this to himself. :r

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/117074/thumbs/s-SAMMY-SOSA-SKIN-large.jpg

[icehog3]

Sammy has cajones for doing this to himself. :r

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/117074/thumbs/s-SAMMY-SOSA-SKIN-large.jpg

Sammy, to quote a friend from Boston, is "*uckin' retahted". ;)

[shvictor]

At least he was man enough to admit his mistakes. I have to give him props for that. I betcha that cocky ass Bonds goes to his grave denying he used roids. And Sosa, who cares.

[Starscream]

As long as Griffey is never linked to them, then I don't care.

[hotreds]

http://s.myniceprofile.com/myspacepic/157/15760.gif

[TheRealJason]

I give him credit for at least manning up to it. I rooted for him back then, and I still like him!

[blugill]

Sammy has cajones for doing this to himself. :r

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/117074/thumbs/s-SAMMY-SOSA-SKIN-large.jpg

WTF?!?!?!?!
Is that real?!?!

[hotreds]

Yes- he said he was doing some kind of skin treatment that went awry.

[ucla695]

I'm surprised he copped to it.

[MedicCook]

Roger Maris - Still the single season HR King. :tu

[Eleven]

Sosa went all MJ on us?

[Clampdown]

I just don't care that much because it seemed everyone was on it. I'm shocked the NFL has not been put under the microscope more for possible enhancement products. It seems that the concussion stuff has moved to the forefront as it should. I wonder how he will do as a hitting coach.

[Whynot]

Everyone seems to forget that Mac was facing possible federal charges for his testimony before Congress. He did what any first year law student would advise a client in those circumstances, he basically pled the 5th. He asked for immunity from several Senators in exchange for testimony and when he was told no, he did the right thing by not lying. I'm not saying what the players did was right, but 98 brought me(and alot of people that have since forgotten) back to baseball after the labor issues of the early-mid 90s. How come Yankees fans harp on Mac, but A-Rod gets a free pass? He denied everything until it was impossible to.

[Blueface]

Everyone seems to forget that Mac was facing possible federal charges for his testimony before Congress. He did what any first year law student would advise a client in those circumstances, he basically pled the 5th. He asked for immunity from several Senators in exchange for testimony and when he was told no, he did the right thing by not lying. I'm not saying what the players did was right, but 98 brought me(and alot of people that have since forgotten) back to baseball after the labor issues of the early-mid 90s. How come Yankees fans harp on Mac, but A-Rod gets a free pass? He denied everything until it was impossible to.

Yankees fan here that doesn't give A-Rod a free pass at all.
I think all these idiots should have all their records wiped clean.
They played dirty, lose your records. That goes for A-Rod's home runs, hits, etc.
He plays clean now, count that only. Give him props for what he does NOW, such as in this year's WS.

As such, I have no respect for McGwire. While the '98 season was exciting, it turned out to be a big fat lie. Give Marris his record back.
I don't see McGwire "manning" up as all say. The only reason he is doing this now is to benefit his wallet with his new job. If he was really "manning" up, he would have done it long ago, in spite of pending charges. Screw all these cheaters. Any of them. Some say he didn't lie as he never answered the questions so therefore that is OK? If a murderer doesn't admit to it therefore not lying, is omission an excuse to justify it?

McGwire can now officially take his place in baseball's darkest era.

[Whynot]

Yankees fan here that doesn't give A-Rod a free pass at all.
I think all these idiots should have all their records wiped clean.
They played dirty, lose your records. That goes for A-Rod's home runs, hits, etc.
He plays clean now, count that only. Give him props for what he does NOW, such as in this year's WS.

As such, I have no respect for McGwire. While the '98 season was exciting, it turned out to be a big fat lie. Give Marris his record back.
I don't see McGwire "manning" up as all say. The only reason he is doing this now is to benefit his wallet with his new job. If he was really "manning" up, he would have done it long ago, in spite of pending charges. Screw all these cheaters. Any of them. Some say he didn't lie as he never answered the questions so therefore that is OK? If a murderer doesn't admit to it therefore not lying, is omission an excuse to justify it? McGwire can now officially take his place in baseball's darkest era.

It was a big fat lie made possible by many people willing to turn a blind eye. Did everyone really believe that "juiced" baseballs were the cause of the offensive explosion, or were we just happy to bury our heads in the sand? Does that make it right, no. But it certainly does not put a baseball player on par with a murderer. And I think baseballs darkest era's probably involved rampant racsism and widespread abuse of alcohol and cocaine.

[Blueface]

It was a big fat lie made possible by many people willing to turn a blind eye. Did everyone really believe that "juiced" baseballs were the cause of the offensive explosion, or were we just happy to bury our heads in the sand? Does that make it right, no. But it certainly does not put a baseball player on par with a murderer. And I think baseballs darkest era's probably involved rampant racsism and widespread abuse of alcohol and cocaine.

I agree many knew, including baseball, and turned an eye.

Disagree with the darkest era. I think steroids takes the cake by a long shot.

The murderer analogy is not what you took it as.
It was to illustrate that "omission" does not make it right because "he never lied" as some have said or because he was advised by a first year law student as you have said.
In other words, because you didn't answer the questions forthright, therefore you didn't lie? That is BS and analogous to a murderer not admitting to a murder by never answer the question, "did you do it"?. So now he is "manning" up because he finally admits to it.:rolleyes:

[Whynot]

I'm not saying he is "manning up" now. I read the interview, and I still think it falls short of the full truth. I do however understand why he did not answer to congress. To be quite honest, I am still pissed that Congress wasted time on baseball in the midst of 2 wars and an economy that was starting to show danger signs. I am one of the few people left in the US that would rather watch a baseball game over any other sporty, but still think it is nowhere near important enough for Congress to be involved. And we will have to agree to disagree on darkest era. I still think there were many more moraly reprehensable things that took place in the game then an era when steroids were used by many. Don't forget pitchers were using too.

[MedicCook]

He could have come clean the next year if he wanted and not had to worry about the law issues. It did not benefit him to come clean until now.

[Blueface]

he could have come clean the next year if he wanted and not had to worry about the law issues. It did not benefit him to come clean until now.

Bingo!

[MedicCook]

Bingo!

It is the same with most of these guys also A-Rod & Pettitte included.

[Blueface]

It is the same with most of these guys also A-Rod & Pettitte included.

Don't disagree at all.
I think they are all scum for having been cheaters.
One thing is if no one knew the effects of it or if it wasn't banned.
They did it knowing fully well.

It is truly a shame.
Hank and Marris have been screwed by cheaters and no one is doing anything at this time to fix it so at least one of them does not continue to roll in his grave.

[MedicCook]

The biggest problem is MLB knew about it and condoned it for years because it was making everyone money from it. I feel bad for all the players who played the game straight.

[Whynot]

Don't disagree at all.
I think they are all scum for having been cheaters.
One thing is if no one knew the effects of it or if it wasn't banned.
They did it knowing fully well.

It is truly a shame.
Hank and Marris have been screwed by cheaters and no one is doing anything at this time to fix it so at least one of them does not continue to roll in his grave.

It was not banned by baseball at the time. Illegal yes, but not banned by the rules of the game. Many here may want to be careful about condeming someone for ingesting an illegal substance or item. I must say it is good to talk baseball with those that obviously care for the game, even if it is in disagreement. It is getting harder to find folks that still enjoy it.

[MedicCook]

It was not banned by baseball at the time. Illegal yes, but not banned by the rules of the game. Many here may want to be careful about condeming someone for ingesting an illegal substance or item. I must say it is good to talk baseball with those that obviously care for the game, even if it is in disagreement. It is getting harder to find folks that still enjoy it.

Being illegal makes it cheating. The fact that there was no punishment for using it during the time does not matter. If you used illegal steroids you broke the law. You took an item that gave you a competitive edge over your peers and to do that you committed a crime. That is cheating.

[Starscream]

It was not banned by baseball at the time. Illegal yes, but not banned by the rules of the game. Many here may want to be careful about condeming someone for ingesting an illegal substance or item. I must say it is good to talk baseball with those that obviously care for the game, even if it is in disagreement. It is getting harder to find folks that still enjoy it.
:tpd: I agree to an extent.
You took an item that gave you a competitive edge over your peers and to do that you committed a crime. That is cheating.

How does steroids truly give someone a competitive edge over others? Everyone has a choice whether to take them or not. Some chose to; others don't. An unsafe choice that many will choose not to make. Everyone has to decide. Some choose to work hard in the offseason and train all year long; others don't. It's a personal choice that everyone makes, whether legal, moral, or not. So those who train hard in the offseason have an advantage over those who don't. I don't condone the use of steroids, just posting a thought.

[Whynot]

Where do cortisone and HGH fall in? Not really performance enhancers so are they all right? They do provide an "unnatural" advantage over pain and injury.

[Blueface]

:tpd: I agree to an extent.


How does steroids truly give someone a competitive edge over others?

Serious?
Just go back and look at Bonds, Canseco, McGwire and Sosa. All were sticks when they joined MLB.
Then look at the explosion their bodies took post what was evident to be steroid use. You can clearly see at what point they started.
While that doesn't help them see the ball any better, when they do connect, I assure you those built up bodies will drive it quite a bit further than when they were skinny. And what is it they all did well? Hit home runs. Hmmm........
That is only the surface of what steroid use did for them. Lots more it can do and hence the reason for it making them blatant cheaters.

[Blueface]

Where do cortisone and HGH fall in? Not really performance enhancers so are they all right? They do provide an "unnatural" advantage over pain and injury.

Not even in the same league.
One relieves pain. The other enhances strength/endurance/speed.
Even if they were remotely for one second in the same league, one is approved, the other is not.
Perhaps someday they will determine cortisone use is now illegal. At that point, so it will be. Today, it is not.

[chippewastud79]

Looks like Mark and others were holding out for some immunity on the issue before they testified before congress a few years ago that led to the "I don't want to talk about the past" statements. A lot of it seems to be protection for his family and other players who were involved. McGwire apparently told Congress behind closed doors that he did use steroids but he didn't want to 'throw anyone under the bus' in front of Congress, and wanted to stay away from prosecution. :tu

[KidRock]

Don't disagree at all.
I think they are all scum for having been cheaters.
One thing is if no one knew the effects of it or if it wasn't banned.
They did it knowing fully well.

It is truly a shame.
Hank and Marris have been screwed by cheaters and no one is doing anything at this time to fix it so at least one of them does not continue to roll in his grave.

agreed 100 percent

[mosesbotbol]

Does anyone believe for a second that Bonds wasn't juicing?

He admitted to taking a drug that he found out later was Steroids. Remember "the clear" and "the cream"? They were both Andro-gels.

I am curious as to what McGwire took. I have a feeling it was Nandrolone if he was using it to recover from injuries.

Funny about McGwire's quote that he did not take much so he wouldn't get huge and look like Arnold or a bodybuilder... Dude, did you ever look in the mirror in the late 90's? You were huge! I remember seeing him at a restaurant when they were in town against the Sox. I had no idea who he was, but I told my friend, "Look at that knuckle dragger... That guy is big!"

[Starscream]

:tpd: I agree to an extent.


How does steroids truly give someone a competitive edge over others? Everyone has a choice whether to take them or not. Some chose to; others don't. An unsafe choice that many will choose not to make. Everyone has to decide. Some choose to work hard in the offseason and train all year long; others don't. It's a personal choice that everyone makes, whether legal, moral, or not. So those who train hard in the offseason have an advantage over those who don't. I don't condone the use of steroids, just posting a thought.

Serious?
Just go back and look at Bonds, Canseco, McGwire and Sosa. All were sticks when they joined MLB.
Then look at the explosion their bodies took post what was evident to be steroid use. You can clearly see at what point they started.
While that doesn't help them see the ball any better, when they do connect, I assure you those built up bodies will drive it quite a bit further than when they were skinny. And what is it they all did well? Hit home runs. Hmmm........
That is only the surface of what steroid use did for them. Lots more it can do and hence the reason for it making them blatant cheaters.
I know what steroids do, Carlos. I was pointing out that I don't see it as an advantage if everyone has the choice to use them or not(whether legal or not). Others chose not to use steroids. Choices give advantages.

[NCRadioMan]

If roids didn't offer an advantage, athletes wouldn't use them. Some athletes just have more character than others.

[Starscream]

If roids didn't offer an advantage, athletes wouldn't use them.

Working out also offers an advantage.:tu

[NCRadioMan]

Working out also offers an advantage.:tu

Yes, but that is by natural means. Roids are by artificial means.

[Blueface]

This is your brain.............

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/alzado2.jpg

This is your brain on drugs.................

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/lyle-alzado-steroids1.jpg

[Starscream]

Yes, but that is by natural means. Roids are by artificial means.

But still an advantage.
Nowadays, I would completely agree, but remember steroids haven't been illegal but for a few decades. I'm not condoning the use of steroids in baseball, I just fail to see the huge outrage by everyone at Bonds, Sammy, and McGwire. I think the biggest outrage of the whole steroid era is that the big names that have come out are not Yankees. Like someone else said in this thread earlier, where's all the disgust and rage against A-Rod?

[Blueface]

I just fail to see the huge outrage by everyone at Bonds, Sammy, and McGwire. I think the biggest outrage of the whole steroid era is that the big names that have come out are not Yankees. Like someone else said in this thread earlier, where's all the disgust and rage against A-Rod?

Dang Yankees haters. Always boils down to that.:r

You don't have a Yankees player breaking a record such as that of Marris or Aaron. I think that is clearly what has brought light to the three names you mention. I bet if a Yankee was in their place, breaking said records, on steroids, the same outrage would hold true.

I think that as a diehard Yankees fan since 1967, I have exhibited that outrage in this thread.

[Starscream]

Dang Yankees haters. Always boils down to that.:r

You don't have a Yankees player breaking a record such as that of Marris or Aaron. I think that is clearly what has brought light to the three names you mention. I bet if a Yankee was in their place, breaking said records, on steroids, the same outrage would hold true.

I think that as a diehard Yankees fan since 1967, I have exhibited that outrage in this thread.

It does always boil down to that!:r

And just for the sake of argument...
Pete Rose set records without using steroids. Therefore he needs to be in the HOF.;)

[Blueface]

And just for the sake of argument...
Pete Rose set records without using steroids. Therefore he needs to be in the HOF.;)

I would agree with that.
What he did was stupid but in the grand scheme of things, certainly not something that should stop Pete, the player, from being in the hall of fame.
Charlie Hustle.

He owned a restaurant here in Boca when we first moved down about 14 years ago and we saw him there any night of the week you went. He ran his radio show from a booth he had set up dead center in the restaurant. Did quite well and was always packed. Have never figured out why they closed it down.
if you bought a Sundae Ice cream, it came in a baseball cap. If you asked for the reds, Pete would sign it for you. Got a few of those plastic cups/caps signed.

[yourchoice]

So much to say.....

If and when A-Rod is approaching and breaking Bond's career HR record, there will be a lot of disgust toward A-Rod. The reason there is so much disgust towards McGuire & Sosa is baseball marketed and people bought into the home run chase that year "bringing us back to baseball". It worked, we're back and a lot of people now feel they were duped. Rightfully so.

As for the question How does steroids truly give someone a competitive edge over others? Everyone has a choice whether to take them or not.

You're kidding, right? Of course steroids gives the user a competitive advantage over the non-user. Not everyone "has a choice" because not everyone is morally wired the same. To suggest that the non-user had a choice to use them is silly to me. Morally, they had no choice. (I hope that makes sense! :r)

As for McGuire's admission, it was CRAP. He's trying to sell a BS story that the roids didn't help him become a better hitter, it just helped him heal faster. He can't possibly believe that. He went from 1 HR every 14 AB to 1 HR every 7 AB, not because of steroids, but because of a shortened swing and better discipline. :r :r :r Who does he think he is fooling? :td The outcry, IMHO, wouldn't be as severe had he not tried to sell that BS

[Starscream]

You're kidding, right? Of course steroids gives the user a competitive advantage over the non-user. Not everyone "has a choice" because not everyone is morally wired the same. To suggest that the non-user had a choice to use them is silly to me. Morally, they had no choice. (I hope that makes sense! :r)

I don't buy that. Some people think that baseball is immoral (Lou Gherig's mother). They can't even play the sport b/c of their morals. So those of us who think that baseball and sports in general are not immoral have an unfair advantage over those who will not participate based on their morals b/c we chose to play over those who chose not to play.

And even the most morally sound people make bad decisions.

[hotreds]

Uh, by the way; it's "Maris." Thank-you. Not surprising MM used the juice- I imagine a majority did. You're talking about enormous sums of money to be earned, and if the juice helped you get it.....

The sad thing is that kids are taking them because their heroes did, too. And, bottom line; they do work. When you're 25 and ready to sign for $100 million, the fact that you might die of cancer when you're 50 is far from important on your list.

I remember asking my doc if he thought andro might help me build muscle- "Yeah, but you'll also build liver cancer." No thanks. I do wonder if more juicing is still going on than generally acknowledged.

Remember Brady Anderson coming out of nowhere and having a 50HR season- and then basically vanishing? Hmmm....

[AD720]

Every time I see the title of this thread I think:

http://importantshock.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/macgyver.jpg


Ok, carry on, sorry for the interruption. :)

[Starscream]

Every time I see the title of this thread I think:

http://importantshock.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/macgyver.jpg


Ok, carry on, sorry for the interruption. :)

He makes steroids out of a ball point pen, two pieces of twine, and a bent paper clip.;)

[Starscream]

The sad thing is that kids are taking them because their heroes did, too.

This is my beef w/ why they take steroids. Not the unfair advantage part. Steroids are bad for your body, just ask Eddie Guerrero. And when the big guys do it, the young ones who look up to them think that it's ok to abuse their body. But the same can be said about Darryl Strawberry and cocaine.

[AD720]

He makes steroids out of a ball point pen, two pieces of twine, and a bent paper clip.;)

Could you imagine what he would have made if he was on steroids???


Or maybe he was. :sad

[Starscream]

Could you imagine what he would have made if he was on steroids???


Or maybe he was. :sad

:r:r:r

[yourchoice]

I don't buy that. Some people think that baseball is immoral (Lou Gherig's mother). They can't even play the sport b/c of their morals. So those of us who think that baseball and sports in general are not immoral have an unfair advantage over those who will not participate based on their morals b/c we chose to play over those who chose not to play.

And even the most morally sound people make bad decisions.

Everyone makes bad decisions. No doubt about it. Everyone breaks the law to some extent (speeding for example). But what I interpretated from your statements is you feel everyone has a choice to do roids to compete with their counterparts since they are doing it. I think that's extremely unfair to those people who won't do them, be it for moral or future health reasons. Then you go on to say "the young ones who look up to them think that it's ok to abuse their body". Maybe I'm misunderstanding your first point, because on the one hand you're suggesting everyone can do it because they have the opportunity, then on the other hand saying it's a shame the young ones look up to them. Based on the first point I would have assumed you thought it okay for the young ones to do it too if everyone else was doing it. :confused::confused:

[Whynot]

Everyone makes bad decisions. No doubt about it. Everyone breaks the law to some extent (speeding for example). But what I interpretated from your statements is you feel everyone has a choice to do roids to compete with their counterparts since they are doing it. I think that's extremely unfair to those people who won't do them, be it for moral or future health reasons. Then you go on to say "the young ones who look up to them think that it's ok to abuse their body". Maybe I'm misunderstanding your first point, because on the one hand you're suggesting everyone can do it because they have the opportunity, then on the other hand saying it's a shame the young ones look up to them. Based on the first point I would have assumed you thought it okay for the young ones to do it too if everyone else was doing it. :confused::confused:

Saying someone has the means to do something is totally different than saying it is right or wrong.

[Whynot]

Dang Yankees haters. Always boils down to that.:r

You don't have a Yankees player breaking a record such as that of Marris or Aaron. I think that is clearly what has brought light to the three names you mention. I bet if a Yankee was in their place, breaking said records, on steroids, the same outrage would hold true.

I think that as a diehard Yankees fan since 1967, I have exhibited that outrage in this thread.

I have to tell you, I just got a good laugh reading through your tips on alcohol and smoking on cruises. After your replies in this thread, I had you picked for a straight and narrow type. I think baseball may be one of the fews things we disagree on.:D:r
And Go Cards!!!!!!

[kugie]

The only thing is that the pitchers were doing it and he crushed the balls they threw at him. There was no testing back then it was against the law of the United States not baseball. If he gets in to the HOF it is because The rest of the legue was doing it as well. IMO
Who cares about the past, move on.
PS he won't get in to the HOF for one reason, he only did one thing, he did it well mind you. He hit home runs. BA below 270, fielding was ok at best one gold glove That about sums it up. IMHO

[Starscream]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your first point, because on the one hand you're suggesting everyone can do it because they have the opportunity, then on the other hand saying it's a shame the young ones look up to them. Based on the first point I would have assumed you thought it okay for the young ones to do it too if everyone else was doing it. :confused::confused:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro-steroids, I just don't buy into all the outrage that people feel about players in baseball using them. The Olympics, yes, but pro sports, no. I am against steroid use b/c of health reasons, not the unfair advantage reasons.
The only thing is that the pitchers were doing it and he crushed the balls they threw at him.

:tpd::tpd:

[Pauly Walnuts]

I was about as surprised to hear this as the time Clay Aiken admitted he was gay.

[mosesbotbol]

There was no testing back then it was against the law of the United States not baseball.

That is not true. The only crimes these really committed were taking perscribed drugs without a perscription. If they (all the players in question) admitted to that alone, Congress would have little to charge these guys on.

In the end MLB is just entertainment. Many make out to be something more than that, but it's not really.