What Mc Donald's is feeding you...

[raisin]

They refer to it as " pink slime", it used to be used ONLY in pet food, but since 2001 a savings of 3 cents a pound has persuaded McDonald's that Americans would love to feed their family's dogfood as a treat.

Here is the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp

please, please, please, let them know you won't eat this ****!

Soylent Pink today, Soylent Green tomorrow!

[Blueface]

They can use it all they want.
I stopped going to McDonald's many, many years ago.
That is the best way to tackle this issue.:2

[Subvet642]

They refer to it as " pink slime", it used to be used ONLY in pet food, but since 2001 a savings of 3 cents a pound has persuaded McDonald's that Americans would love to feed their family's dogfood as a treat.

Here is the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp

please, please, please, let them know you won't eat this ****!

Soylent Pink today, Soylent Green tomorrow!

I love McDonalds! :2

[raisin]

I love McDonalds! :2

The sad part - some children actually liked the slime! (they mentioned no exact percentage, methinks that sentence was included solely as a "Fair and Balanced" rejoinder...)

[CigarNut]

They refer to it as " pink slime", it used to be used ONLY in pet food, but since 2001 a savings of 3 cents a pound has persuaded McDonald's that Americans would love to feed their family's dogfood as a treat.

Here is the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp

please, please, please, let them know you won't eat this ****!

Soylent Pink today, Soylent Green tomorrow!According to the article it is not just McDonalds -- McDonald’s, Burger King and other fast-food giants use it...

[wayner123]

Accroding to the article it's not just Mcdonald's.

With the U.S.D.A.’s stamp of approval, the company’s processed beef has become a mainstay in America’s hamburgers. McDonald’s, Burger King and other fast-food giants use it as a component in ground beef, as do grocery chains. The federal school lunch program used an estimated 5.5 million pounds of the processed beef last year alone.

:lv

[markem]

Accroding to the article it's not just Mcdonald's.


I find it interesting that its use in school lunch programs doesn't seem to bother anyone.

[JaKaacH]

I love McDonalds! :2
Cheese's stunt double
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/john-caparulo-mcdonald-s/747C7BCB12A21A761C23747C7BCB12A21A761C23

[wavescrashing]

It's crap like this that makes a carnivore think more and more about becoming a vegetarian. Oh yeah, that Grade A steak you bought at the commissary? It's inflated like a balloon with chemicals they put in cigarettes and drain-o. Well, I guess my new year's eve dinner will be a bottle of scotch and some Chimay!

[T.G]

They can use it all they want.
I stopped going to McDonald's many, many years ago.
That is the best way to tackle this issue.:2

:tpd: Screw McDonalds.



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PS: And I don't even like fast food. Eat it maybe 2-3 times a year.

[Sauer Grapes]

According to the article it is not just McDonalds --

Accroding to the article it's not just Mcdonald's.



:lv

I find it interesting that its use in school lunch programs doesn't seem to bother anyone.

Indeed, it's used by BK, other fast food, grocery stores and school cafeterias. It's just easier to pick on McD. It's kind of like picking on Walmart. Easy target.

Anyway, McD's burgers weren't ever that good in my generation anyway. I still enjoy their chicken though now that they've improved it.

[kydsid]

Approved in 2007. As an insider that doesn't shock me. It also won't shock me when in a couple months it isn't approved anymore.

[T.G]

Anyway, McD's burgers weren't ever that good in my generation anyway. I still enjoy their chicken though now that they've improved it.

http://www2.fundeposit.com/That%20wasn't%20chicken%20-%20fortune%20cookie.jpg

[Subvet642]

(SNIP)...Anyway, McD's burgers weren't ever that good in my generation anyway. I still enjoy their chicken though now that they've improved it.

The McDonalds in my neighborhood is owned by the corporation and not a franchise, and it makes all the difference. Everything that I've had there is hot, fresh, and doesn't have the construction problems that you find in other stores. Everything looks like it does in the commercials. :tu

[Ratters]

Don't be hatin

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs025.snc3/11269_213211959086_707769086_3181772_2230831_n.jpg

[sodomanaz]

The McDonalds in my neighborhood is owned by the corporation and not a franchise, and it makes all the difference. Everything that I've had there is hot, fresh, and doesn't have the construction problems that you find in other stores. Everything looks like it does in the commercials. :tu

And their supply comes from the same distributor. ;)

[pmwz]

mc donalds products in the us taste for whatever reason better than in germany. i usually go to mc donalds when i had a couple of drinks and everything else is closed...

[timo]

Cheese's stunt double
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/john-caparulo-mcdonald-s/747C7BCB12A21A761C23747C7BCB12A21A761C23

Classic:r:r

[Subvet642]

mc donalds products in the us taste for whatever reason better than in germany. i usually go to mc donalds when i had a couple of drinks and everything else is closed...

Have you tried their new Angus Burgers? Yum! :tu

[looking for know]

Meh, what's a little ammonia injected beef-like parts? If you swallow your chew spit, it'll clean your whole system.

[pmwz]

Have you tried their new Angus Burgers? Yum! :tu
we dont have the new angus burger in germany. mfast food in the us is just better...

[Subvet642]

Meh, what's a little ammonia injected beef-like parts? If you swallow your chew spit, it'll clean your whole system.

Not "beef-like"; if it comes from the cow, it's beef.

[T.G]

we dont have the new angus burger in germany. mfast food in the us is just better...

Yeah, but German McDonalds serve BEER. And it's even decent beer (far better that the Bud/Miller/Coors that we would get here if McDonalds served beer here)

[pmwz]

Yeah, but German McDonalds serve BEER. And it's even decent beer (far better that the Bud/Miller/Coors that we would get here if McDonalds served beer here)
its bittburger but they serve it in plastic cups...drinking beer out of plastic bottles + cups is something that we dont like to do in germany...

[T.G]

its bittburger but they serve it in plastic cups...drinking beer out of plastic bottles + cups is something that we dont like to do in germany...

Yeah, but like I said, at least it's better than Coors/Bud/Miller or none at all.

[Subvet642]

Yeah, but like I said, at least it's better than Coors/Bud/Miller or none at all.

When I was in the Navy, my first meal when we got back from patrol was two Big Macs, 20 Mc nuggets (with hot mustard sauce) and a six-pack of Bud. There were times at sea when I would have done almost anything for a Big Mac!

[Darrell]

Yum?

[Subvet642]

Yum?

Yum.

[Savvy]

Yeah, but like I said, at least it's better than Coors/Bud/Miller or none at all.

Bitburger is pretty much the German equivalent to Coors/Bud/Miller.

Fast food in Germany is different, and it is probably better in the states...but food overall in Germany is much better than in the states. So I'm perfectly fine with that.

[Pauly Walnuts]

Ehh i knew somethin wasnt right with this stuff. id doesnt even fill me up i dont know why i got there occasionally.

[T.G]

When I was in the Navy, my first meal when we got back from patrol was two Big Macs, 20 Mc nuggets (with hot mustard sauce) and a six-pack of Bud. There were times at sea when I would have done almost anything for a Big Mac!

Been there, done that, sobered up before I got the tattoo though.

[md4958]

The company, Beef Products Inc., had been looking to expand into the hamburger business with a product made from beef that included fatty trimmings the industry once relegated to pet food and cooking oil. The trimmings were particularly susceptible to contamination, but a study commissioned by the company showed that the ammonia process would kill E. coli as well as salmonella.

Officials at the United States Department of Agriculture endorsed the company’s ammonia treatment, and have said it destroys E. coli “to an undetectable level.” They decided it was so effective that in 2007, when the department began routine testing of meat used in hamburger sold to the general public, they exempted Beef Products.

With the U.S.D.A.’s stamp of approval, the company’s processed beef has become a mainstay in America’s hamburgers. McDonald’s, Burger King and other fast-food giants use it as a component in ground beef, as do grocery chains. The federal school lunch program used an estimated 5.5 million pounds of the processed beef last year alone.

So basically its in cooking oil, supermarket ground beef, and public school lunches. Why is McDonalds being thrown under the bus for using it?

[T.G]

Bitburger is pretty much the German equivalent to Coors/Bud/Miller.


It depends on how you look at it. Sure, it's a high production, widely distributed, "simple" beer, and in those regards, yes, it is kind of a German equivalent of Bud/Miller/Coors. But, unlike Bud/Miller/Coors, it's not an adjunct beer (at least the pilsner anyway, not sure about Bitburgers other brews) and still follows in the reinheitsgebot tradition. Probably also uses higher quality ingredients too.

[Subvet642]

Been there, done that, sobered up before I got the tattoo though.

Say what you want; I love the stuff, and I always have. I will never forget my first Big Mac. Don't get me wrong, I love fine cusine as much as anyone can, but fast food rocks as well, I love it! If you think about it; even the poorest people can now afford to eat meat because of it. I don't think my ancestors in Ireland could, at least more than once or twice a year.

[Vegan702]

So basically its in cooking oil, supermarket ground beef, and public school lunches. Why is McDonalds being thrown under the bus for using it?

Because if it said that no one would read the story or this thread?

[T.G]

Say what you want; I love the stuff, and I always have.

I think you misunderstand me brother. I was talking about the making a beeline for fast food and beer the moment you are cleared to go ashore. Did that number many times myself. As for the tattoo part it's a whimsical play on a sea story that involves fast food, getting kicked out of a soju tent for being too drunk, a tattoo parlor and a few other things...

[Subvet642]

I think you misunderstand me brother. I was talking about the making a beeline for fast food and beer the moment you are cleared to go ashore. Did that number many times myself. As for the tattoo part it's a whimsical play on a sea story that involves fast food, getting kicked out of a soju tent for being too drunk, a tattoo parlor and a few other things...

Tell me the story; I was that guy! :r

[T.G]

Tell me the story; I was that guy! :r

You too eh?

I look back at that night and think just how drunk was I? Kerist, I got thrown out of a Soju tent, a _freaking_ Soju tent, in a back alley no less. This is like one step above swilling out of a paper bag on the curb in front of a liquor store located on the wrong side of the tracks...

Oh, and that anti-gwailo warning system they have? Wasn't that just grand? The little old lady who threw us out, sticking her head out of the tent screaming at what seemed to be about the same volume as the ships steam whistle, and then every other damn tent in the city repeating it so no one would serve us anymore that night...

And then the day after... Ohhhh, what the hell is it that they put in Soju, formaldehyde? If not, it sure felt like it.

I look back at those days and wonder, just how much lower could we have sunk? LOL.

[hotreds]

Eating brains from a monkey whose skull is opened at your table doesn't sound so bad now, eh?

[Subvet642]

You too eh?

I look back at that night and think just how drunk was I? Kerist, I got thrown out of a Soju tent, a _freaking_ Soju tent, in a back alley no less. This is like one step above swilling out of a paper bag on the curb in front of a liquor store located on the wrong side of the tracks...

Oh, and that anti-gwailo warning system they have? Wasn't that just grand? The little old lady who threw us out, sticking her head out of the tent screaming at what seemed to be about the same volume as the ships steam whistle, and then every other damn tent in the city repeating it so no one would serve us anymore that night...

And then the day after... Ohhhh, what the hell is it that they put in Soju, formaldehyde? If not, it sure felt like it.

I look back at those days and wonder, just how much lower could we have sunk? LOL.

Dude, maybe that was all you; I was Sublant out of Holy Loch. :r Man, it rocks being a Squid, don't it?

[looking for know]

Eating brains from a monkey whose skull is opened at your table doesn't sound so bad now, eh?

I hear they're tasty.

[floydpink]

If there is anything better than a McRib sandwich, can someone please point it out to me?

[T.G]

Dude, maybe that was all you; I was Sublant out of Holy Loch. :r Man, it rocks being a Squid, don't it?

Yeah, we all had some times back then. Strange how we look back on getting thrown out of places like that as badges of honor isn't it?

Oh, no wait, we called that "World Travel" and "Experiencing Other Cultures". :D

[Montano]

Been there, done that, sobered up before I got the tattoo though.

I got my first tat in the Navy. I was sober :)

Mickey D's was always the first place I went when the boat got home. Big Mac smothered with sweet-n-sour sauce. Those were the days. Then off to the liquor store........

[Subvet642]

Yeah, we all had some times back then. Strange how we look back on getting thrown out of places like that as badges of honor isn't it?

Oh, no wait, we called that "World Travel" and "Experiencing Other Cultures". :D

Things have a funny way of looking better in the rear view mirror. I wasn't usually thrown out, as much as dragged out by Shore Patrol.

[Subvet642]

I got my first tat in the Navy. I was sober :)

Mickey D's was always the first place I went when the boat got home. Big Mac smothered with sweet-n-sour sauce. Those were the days. Then off to the liquor store........

Boat? Were you a Bubblehead, too?

[BlackDog]

I haul about 1.5 million pounds of beef a week from Cargill for my company. The sanitary testing is very stringent. My trucks are regularly delayed because product has been held up for USDA testing. Even though a beef recall makes big news it happens incredibly infrequently when you consider the volume of beef produced annually. The USA butchers over 300,000,000 cattle annually. Being a natural product, there are inherent risks with contamination. You've all seen farms at one time or another. They're dirty. Some of that dirt/mud/feces/urine muck that cattle walk in is gong to occasionally make it into the food chain. Our food production and distribution systems are the cleanest in the history of mankind. The use of ammonia is not a problem. The problem is that Beef Products was exempted from testing and recall.

By the way, do you guys realize that the chickens you buy, even the organic free range ones, are washed in bleach after they're butchered?

[Demented]

"With the U.S.D.A.’s stamp of approval, the company’s processed beef has become a mainstay in America’s hamburgers. McDonald’s, Burger King and other fast-food giants use it as a component in ground beef, as do grocery chains. The federal school lunch program used an estimated 5.5 million pounds of the processed beef last year alone"

It's not just McDonalds.

Stopped eating fast food (with rare exception) in the late '90's and have ground beef and pork at home for nearly as long. The wife has bought ground beef at the market from time to time. After reading this that will not happen again.

[Demented]

Boat? Were you a Bubblehead, too?

What does being a bubblehead have to do with calling your ship a boat? I was on the Shitty-Kitty (CV-63) out of NAS Coronado, we all referred to her as a boat.

[Montano]

Boat? Were you a Bubblehead, too?

Nope. I worked on the flight deck of the USS Tarawa (LHA-1) out of 32nd Street. We all called her a boat.

[Subvet642]

What does being a bubblehead have to do with calling your ship a boat? I was on the Shitty-Kitty (CV-63) out of NAS Coronado, we all referred to her as a boat.

It's just that I've never heard a skimmer call their ship a boat. Subs have always been called boats.

[raisin]

Great work here fella's, we've got the government and industrial food magnate's feeding us the infected meat scraps that they shovel off the floor with the crap, piss, and puss and you find it a great time to discuss beer and boats!

How about trying to think of something better and greater than your own wallet and mouth once and awhile, and earn your position at the top of the food chain - before you become part of it...

[looking for know]

Bring on Soylent Green.

[T.G]

Ammonia treated ground up meat scraps would have been preferable to the crap turned out by the "cooks" on some of the ships I've been on...

[Subvet642]

If there is anything better than a McRib sandwich, can someone please point it out to me?

Tony Roma makes a pretty good version of that, too. Available frozen in 8 count boxes. :dr

[Subvet642]

Ammonia treated ground up meat scraps would have been preferable to the crap turned out by the "cooks" on some of the ships I've been on...

That's the great part of being on a sub; I heard a guy in the chow line actually say: "What, steak and shrimp, again!?" :r

[T.G]

That's the great part of being on a sub; I heard a guy in the chow line actually say: "What, steak and shrimp, again!?" :r

Yeah, but you have to give up daylight, elbow room and fresh air for 30-90 days at a time for those kind of meals. Not knocking it, just not really an attractive trade off to me.

[Montano]

That's the great part of being on a sub; I heard a guy in the chow line actually say: "What, steak and shrimp, again!?" :r

I heard some scary stories about the goings on onboard a sub. Made me glad I was on a Gator Freighter.

[Subvet642]

Yeah, but you have to give up daylight, elbow room and fresh air for 30-90 days at a time for those kind of meals. Not knocking it, just not really an attractive trade off to me.

Fair enough! :D The way I figured it, though, if Ivan can't find you, Ivan can't shoot you. You guys probably got Liberty ports too, I'll bet. What was that like? For us it was 72 days at a time submerged, no Libs, no daylight, no women. Patrol was drag, but I'm glad I did it. :usa:salute:

[Subvet642]

I heard some scary stories about the goings on onboard a sub. Made me glad I was on a Gator Freighter.

Scary how?

[Montano]

Scary how?

Brokeback Mountain scary. But it looks like the OP isn't happy with us, so I digress.

[T.G]

Fair enough! :D The way I figured it, though, if Ivan can't find you, Ivan can't shoot you. You guys probably got Liberty ports too, I'll bet. What was that like? For us it was 72 days at a time submerged, no Libs, no daylight, no women. Patrol was drag, but I'm glad I did it. :usa:salute:

Find us? FIND US? Hell, if we heard that Ivan was even possibly in the area, we'd start running the other way at flank speed. Supply ships aren't exactly known for being very good at shooting back.... :r

As for what liberty ports are like - see my earlier partial sea story about getting thrown out of a soju tent in Chinhae. :banger

[T.G]

Yeah, Nick is right, we probably ought to let the OP have his thread back.

[Starscream]

Approved in 2007. As an insider that doesn't shock me. It also won't shock me when in a couple months it isn't approved anymore.
We're not getting political are we, Jason?;)
If there is anything better than a McRib sandwich, can someone please point it out to me?
I love me some McRib. When the McRib is around is about the only time I hit up McDonalds (although I went to Mickey D's twice today while on a ten hour drive).

[Salvelinus]

Just one more reason to avoid. The niece and two nephews get so mad at me when they come by because I won't let them eat there. We have to drive by 3 on the way from their place to mine. Thinking about blindfolding them next time.

[Starscream]

Just one more reason to avoid.

You can't avoid it unless you live on a farm. Raise your own meat and grow your own vegetables.
Or buy completely organic products, which I think are somewhat of a lie and cost an arm and a leg.
McDonald’s, Burger King and other fast-food giants use it as a component in ground beef, as do grocery chains. The federal school lunch program used an estimated 5.5 million pounds of the processed beef last year alone.

[T.G]

I highly doubt that every grocery chain uses it. All you have to do is ask the butcher at your local store. And you don't hve to go organic, you just have to find a supplier that doesn't use the process, which shouldn't be that hard.

You could also just buy your own meat grinder and make your own ground beef, you control the fat and cut of meat used (think brisket :dr). Can even use a food processor with chopping blade if you don't want to spring for a grinder, but the texture can very quickly go from firm to mush if you're not careful.