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iRiSh
12-04-2009, 11:04 AM
The draw is just being made now!
I will post the first group draw

iRiSh
12-04-2009, 11:36 AM
Group A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France

Group B: Argentina, Nigeria, South Korea, Greece

Group C: England, United States, Algeria, Slovenia

Group D: Germany, Australia, Serbia Ghana

Group E: Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon

Group F: Italy, Paraguay, New Zealand, Slovakia

Group G: Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Portugal

Group H: Spain, Switzerland, Honduras, Chile

Don Fernando
12-04-2009, 11:45 AM
could be worse for The Netherlands

iRiSh
12-04-2009, 11:47 AM
could be worse for The Netherlands

your right.

but do you remember the last european championships the netherlands hammered their group games and were hot favourites for it but they went downhill rapid in the knock out stages.

the old saying, its not a sprint its a marathon

Don Fernando
12-04-2009, 11:55 AM
yeah, but with this group there is no need to start sprinting. And if that tragic accident with Boulahrouz's daughter never happened, Holland - Russia would be a different game.

iRiSh
12-04-2009, 12:08 PM
yeah, but with this group there is no need to start sprinting. And if that tragic accident with Boulahrouz's daughter never happened, Holland - Russia would be a different game.

yea it was tragic.

i hope the dutch do well:tu

Jason
12-04-2009, 02:39 PM
i hope the dutch do well:tu

The Irish would have done well with the spot in group A I think

US over England anyone? Pre-Capello I would have placed money on it, now I'll be biting my nails

pmwz
12-04-2009, 02:48 PM
germanys group looks pretty easy. dont feel confident about the team though

iRiSh
12-04-2009, 04:18 PM
The Irish would have done well with the spot in group A I think

US over England anyone? Pre-Capello I would have placed money on it, now I'll be biting my nails

dont get me started pal, we could have been in group A:mad::(

england are hit and miss, overpayed "stars" who cant really gel together.
first game of the group for you too so you never know

DrDubzz
12-04-2009, 04:58 PM
lol at North Korea

I bet Kim Jong is PISSED

pnoon
12-04-2009, 05:52 PM
US got a relatively easy group.
They should advance.

After what France "accomplished", I was really hoping they would end up in the group of death.

DougBushBC
12-04-2009, 06:17 PM
Thank god for 2 teams making it out of the groups... Cause England is a tough draw for#1 in the USA group

pnoon
12-04-2009, 07:29 PM
Thank god for 2 teams making it out of the groups... Cause England is a tough draw for#1 in the USA group

Any of the #1 seeds would be a tough draw (except for the host nation). That is why they are the seeded teams. Would Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Spain, Italy, or The Netherlands be any easier? I don't think so. In fact, I think the US got an easy group with Slovenia and Algeria rounding out the group.
:2

I'm thrilled with how the US fared. Of the seeded teams, I think they match up well with England.

bobarian
12-04-2009, 07:34 PM
Any of the #1 seeds would be a tough draw (except for the host nation). That is why they are the seeded teams. Would Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Spain, Italy, or The Netherlands be any easier? I don't think so. In fact, I think the US got an easy group with Slovenia and Algeria rounding out the group.
:2

I'm thrilled with how the US fared. Of the seeded teams, I think they match up well with England.

:tpd: US got about as good a draw as they could expect. Draw vs England in the opener and they should go through to next round. Even a loss still leaves them with two winnable matches. :tu

pnoon
12-04-2009, 07:36 PM
:tpd: US got about as good a draw as they could expect. Draw vs England in the opener and they should go through to next round. Even a loss still leaves them with two winnable matches. :tu

Exactly.

GreekGodX
12-04-2009, 07:43 PM
I'm excited for England vs U.S. I hope the U.S can bring it and not let us down (unless they face Greece :D).

pnoon
12-04-2009, 07:49 PM
I'm excited for England vs U.S. I hope the U.S can bring it and not let us down (unless they face Greece :D).

Everyone is talking about how Group G is the group of death.
I think group B is as tough as it gets - Argentina, Nigeria, Greece and South Korea. No slouches for sure.

bobarian
12-04-2009, 07:50 PM
Greece's draw is as tough as they get. 4 quality sides in that group. Definitely has a vote as the group of death.

pnoon
12-04-2009, 07:52 PM
Greece's draw is as tough as they get. 4 quality sides in that group. Definitely has a vote as the group of death.

I just said that.

Geez. You ARE old. :D

GreekGodX
12-04-2009, 07:59 PM
Everyone is talking about how Group G is the group of death.
I think group B is as tough as it gets - Argentina, Nigeria, Greece and South Korea. No slouches for sure.

I agree, and I don't think Greece's style of play will beat these teams. They rely on a strategy that worked 5 years ago with different players. Who knows though? That's why the games are played ;)

hotreds
12-04-2009, 08:22 PM
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Smokin Gator
12-05-2009, 05:49 AM
The US definitely got a good draw. I just wish I was going to be able to go next summer. We went to Germany in '06 for the WC and it was the trip of a lifetime!!!

pnoon
12-05-2009, 08:46 AM
The US definitely got a good draw. I just wish I was going to be able to go next summer. We went to Germany in '06 for the WC and it was the trip of a lifetime!!!
:)
I was in Germany as well for the 2006 WC.
What a blast!

pmwz
12-06-2009, 05:50 AM
come back to germany in 2011 for the women wc. the usa has a shot at winning this...

iRiSh
12-06-2009, 06:18 AM
i think usa will hold their own in this group and have a good chance of winning it outright, big big expectations on england for 2010 as there is in every wc or euro championships.

in the press over here they are saying spain or brazil to win it.

iRiSh
12-06-2009, 06:22 AM
Spain 4/1
Mexico 50/1
Greece 125/1

Brazil 5/1
Chile 50/1
Switzerland 175/1

England 11/2
USA 66/1
Slovenia 175/1

Argentina 9/1
Serbia 66/1
Japan 200/1

Italy 12/1
Ghana 75/1
Slovakia 200/1

France 12/1
South Africa 80/1
South Korea 250/1

Germany 14/1
Cameroon 80/1
Honduras 400/1

Holland 14/1
Denmark 80/1
Algeria 500/1

Portugal 25/1
Uruguay 80/1
New Zealand 750/1

Ivory Coast 25/1
Nigeria 100/1
North Korea 1000/1

Paraguay 40/1
Australia 125/1
















http://www.paddypower.com/football/international-football/world-cup-betting?ev_oc_grp_ids=36893

iRiSh
12-06-2009, 06:24 AM
outright top scorer

D Villa (Spain) 9/1
D Milito (Argentina) 33/1
N Zigic (Serbia) 80/1

L Fabiano (Brazil) 10/1
K Benzema (France) 33/1
H Suazo (Chile) 80/1

F Torres (Spain) 11/1
A Pato (Brazil) 33/1
S Kiessling (Germany) 80/1

W Rooney (England) 12/1
L Toni (Italy) 33/1
N Bendtner (Denmark) 100/1

L Messi (Argentina) 14/1
M Gomez (Germany) 40/1
C Vela (Mexico) 100/1

C Ronaldo (Portugal) 16/1
G Rossi (Italy) 40/1
Yakubu (Nigeria) 100/1

D Drogba (Ivory Coast) 20/1
D Guiza (Spain) 40/1
B McCarthy (South Africa) 100/1

S Aguero (Argentina) 20/1
C Tevez (Argentina) 40/1
E Johnson (USA) 125/1

Kaka (Brazil) 22/1
L Lopez (Argentina) 40/1
T Gekas (Greece) 125/1

R Van Persie (Holland) 25/1
M Owen (England) 40/1
A Frei (Switzerland) 125/1

G Higuain (Argentina) 25/1
D Forlan (Uruguay) 40/1
L Donovan (USA) 125/1

M Klose (Germany) 25/1
L Podolski (Germany) 50/1
M Fernandez (Chile) 150/1

Nilmar (Brazil) 25/1
Simao (Portugal) 50/1
M Amoah (Ghana) 150/1

J Defoe (England) 28/1
L Suarez (Uruguay) 50/1
R Vittek (Slovakia) 150/1

T Henry (France) 28/1
D Bent (England) 66/1
M Novakovic (Slovenia) 150/1

Robinho (Brazil) 33/1
C Cole (England) 66/1
K Tamada (Japan) 175/1

N Anelka (France) 33/1
S Gerrard (England) 66/1
D Suazo (Honduras) 175/1

S Eto'o (Cameroon) 33/1
F Lampard (England) 66/1
B Holman (Australia) 200/1

K-L Huntelaar (Holland) 33/1
A Robben (Holland) 66/1
S Ki-Hyeon (South Korea) 200/1

A Gilardino (Italy) 33/1
R Santa Cruz (Paraguay) 66/1
R Djebbour (Algeria) 200/1

A-P Gignac (France) 33/1
P Crouch (England) 80/1
C Killen (New Zealand) 300/1

Liedson (Portugal) 33/1
F Ribery (France) 80/1


http://www.paddypower.com/football/international-football/world-cup-betting?ev_oc_grp_ids=120656

Jason
12-08-2009, 04:39 PM
no telling what things will look like next summer but on current form I would not bet on the US making it out of this group right now (I don't understand why everyone dismisses Algeria so quickly). Bradley has his hands full until the WC, being there and competing will be a breeze compared to what he needs to do to get ready.

We recently lost Davies and Onyewu, 2 starters from the middle of the field, the spine if you will. If one or both make it back in time for the WC there's no way they' be match fit so... who do we think oughta take their spots? Demerit and Findlay? And speaking of spine, who should man the central midfield roles?

hotreds
12-08-2009, 04:43 PM
come back to germany in 2011 for the women wc. the usa has a shot at winning this...

The USA women play a beautiful style of soccer.